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    I Love Conifers

    :smt001 I love pines and conifers and have planted various species around my house & backgarden.
    I am usually very particular about the growth patterns, width/height in relation to where I plant them...but I'm rather concerned about one I have planted in the front yard. 'Cupressus Macrocarpa Horizontalis'. Does anybody know the height this grows to?
    I have done several internet and book searches but can't find the exact details for it. (just a generalization of 'Cupressus Lambertiana' kind, to which it is a member, but they vary in height & slight foliage difference.) There is a Californian type that grow to be ENORMOUS giants :smt003 ..and I am hoping this isn't one of them. :smt005

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    Cupressus Macrocarpa Horizontalis can grow more than 4m in 10 years.

    http://www.conifers.co.nz
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    Hi Skadi,

    You've likely seen these:

    http://www.plantcultivar.info/descriptions/desc_054.htm

    http://newplants.tripod.com/cupy311.html

    "Cupressus macrocarpa 'Horizontalis Aurea' ('Lambertiana Aurea')
    ht: 10 ft. tall x 3 ft. wide in many years
    ha: upright-arching, branches mostly 45 degrees in angle, much like a golden Pfitzer Group juniper
    lc: bright golden-yellow
    or: Australia"


    Anyway--the trees and other plants that grow in your neck of the proverbial woods is a topic that I know next to nothing about. Funny how that is when we are half a world apart, eh? LOL.

    Where I live, we have plenty of conifer types: White, Red, Pitch and Black Pine, White, Red and Black Spruce, Balsam Fir, Eastern Hemlock, Northern White Cedar, Eastern Red Cedar and Tamarack to round out the native list. Certainly there are many more grown here in designed landscapes that are not native to this region. Two that come to mind quickly are the Colorado Blue Spruce and the Fraser Fir--the later of the two are very popular for Christmas trees. Ahem, Yule trees, I prefer. Threre's no need to bring JC into the story is there?

    So, basically I don't know a thing about the tree species in question but I sure hope that yours grows to colossal heights and shades your house on sweltering sunny summer days!

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    Conifer trees are beautiful to behold.

    However, what I cannot stand is a creature known as the Western Conifer Seed Bug. It is a member of the true bug family, and is also known as one of the many different variations of stinkbug.

    These vile creatures suck on the sap of pine trees, and all other cone bearing trees, as well as vegetables in a garden. There are a few different varieties of this horrid abomination, all of which frighten me to death! My blood freezes and I become completely locked in my stance at the sight or smell of it, unable to move. They make a clicking noice when flying, and they are not graceful flyers, choosing more or less a divebomb effect when flying in their routes. They also like to breed and live on thistles. The variety that freezes my blood the most is very large, also known as a Leaf-Legged Bug.

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    Thanks PsyclolgclMishap & Dalonord for those informative links.
    I found the information I wanted, plus some extra verification on my other species of conifers I have. :smt001
    I never get sick of looking at the beauty of them. I really live in the wrong country. Australia is covered in bush/scrub land and Rainforests. I don't hate our natives (I have a variety planted in the garden also to attract the parrots/native birds)...but pines/coniferous trees uplift me to extreme pleasure. It is lucky for me that they actually survive well in Australia (surprising as that may seem) and prove to be very hardy & frost tolerant. (thanks to foliage structure)....of course I see alot of absolute tragedies around the place, from people who have NO idea how to care for them. :smt009 Hacking away at them..(cutting into old branches causing the risk of illnesses/disease), no water, no Blood and Bone fertilizer (they love it)....Literally torturing the poor trees. :smt011 ....(beyond repair...I have 2 in our garden, planted by previous owners.. :smt013 I have tried for 3 years to help/revive them..but the damage inflicted was too horrific :smt010 ).

    Speaking of horrific...That Western Conifer Seed Bug looks terrible. I don't think Australia has them, but I was reading that Northern Italy is also plagued by them. They sound positively awful the way they destroy fir trees
    and not content with that destructive behaviour...also want to invade man made structures..and annoy people. Nature does things for a reason I guess.

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    If I remember correctly, the bug was introduced to the United States relatively a short time ago, perhaps the 60's or 70's. I believe they were first found in the Eastern U.S. and worked their way westward. I remember in 1999 I found one on the side of a hotel I was staying at in Sedona, Arizona.

    They spray an aweful stench when threatened, as a defensive measure, which can be smelled from far away. They also spray that fragrance when stepped on or smashed, so when you smell it, rest assured that there is one either dead under your feet or in your local vicinity and he wishes you were not there!

    The very smell makes my body petrified.

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    I don't. I think it is a reaction to those cheap conifers that it seems everyone in Britain keeps planting. They're not native and they don't suit the landscape at all and usually end up in some grotty garden.

    Leyland Cypress are are the most common, they're used for cheap and quick hedging and often grow taller than the houses themselves.
    Good for privacy, but I'd much rather plant native holly myself - that stuff is like barbed wire for criminals.

    Leyland Cypress - a hybrid of two American conifers:





    The only native conifers are Yew and Common Juniper. Yew is as common as much and many ancient ones, some thousands of years old are found at churches. It also grows wild in woods very readily with holly around here.

    Juniper is found in the hills mainly and is slow-growing and not very common. I've never seen hedges made from it.


    European Yew


    Common Juniper

    And we only have one native Pine tree, Scots Pine:


    It is called "Scots Pine" because it died out in England and Wales and survived in Scotland because it was over-harvested for ships. It was reintroduced and is fairly common in Northern England now. Only Scotland has forests of it though, it occurs as scattered stands of trees elsewhere in Britain.


    The reason the UK lacks conifers and pines is because the islands are much more suited to deciduous trees which tend to dominate.

    My favourite trees are probably beech and holly (both of which can also be used for hedges and both are native here). Beech trees can grow to be huge and they're extremely thick grained so that a single little log weighs a hell of a lot.



    Beech trees


    Holly trees grow wild like this over western Britain and they're very common

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