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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous
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    Actually, the score was hardly dramatic...
    You are the only one I have talked to who has such a poor opinion of this film.
    Wait till you see it, Troy. You'll understand. :smt002
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    Quote Originally Posted by into soil I shall become
    Have you seen it Cosmo?
    I've not seen it yet but I probably will see it eventually. Not because I'm interested in the theme but only because I want to see Mel's work. I greatly admire the guy.

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    There's a demon in the film? Maybe I will go see it afterall...hmmm.

    Is it one of those demons with ungodly sex appeal?

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    I'm not interested in the movie, my only interest is because it is anti-Semitic so the Jews bitched and whined about it, I want to know what they're complaining about now. Another point of interest is the Romans speaking Latin, makes that interesting.

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    I don't think it's anti-semitic. It portrays the Pharisees in a bad light but not the Jews in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hyperborean
    I'm not interested in the movie, my only interest is because it is anti-Semitic so the Jews bitched and whined about it, I want to know what they're complaining about now. Another point of interest is the Romans speaking Latin, makes that interesting.
    It isn't anti-Semitic and it makes sense that Romans would speak Latin...

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    Post Orthodox Patriarch Praises "The Passion"

    Moscow Patriarchate calls Mel Gibson’s movie useful remedy
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    MOSCOW, March 25 (Itar-Tass) - Mel Gibson’s movie The Passion Of The Christ is quite an acceptable screen version of the evangelical story, spokespeople for the Moscow Patriarchate said Thursday after a public presentation of the movie that has produced much agitation and controversy the world over.

    Days before an all-Russia premiere, it was screened Thursday especially for representatives of Russian Orthodox Organizations.

    “Mel Gibson’s movie with all its graphic episodes is a heavy-duty medicine that will make people consider again the events that happened two thousand years ago,” said Bishop Marc, the deputy chairman of Moscow Patriarchate’s department for external relations.

    “Many of our compatriots have plunged into materialism and are afraid of asking themselves the meaning of life and death – and these are the very questions that the movie sets forth,” Bishop Marc said.

    When a reporter asked him about the reproaches for anti-Semitism that had been made against Gibson, he said he had not noticed anything in the movie that could be humiliating for one or another nationality.

    “Movies on religious topics must not be treated as regular works of art, as they help people look deep into their hearts instead of seeking foes around them,” Archbishop Marc said.

    “Let us recall that the internal sins typical of all of us mundane humans caused Jesus’s suffering and death on the Cross,” he indicated.

    A priest who attended the presentation said about the artistic merits of the picture: “Undoubtedly, Mel Gibson revealed a great deal of talent, but it’s a pity he didn’t always follow the Gospels”.

    “He could have done better without sound effects to relate the meanings that the Holy Scriptures describes in terms of silence,” the priest said.

    In Russia, The Passion Of The Christ will run as of April 7, which is the middle of the Holy Week under the Julian calendar, adopted by the Russian Orthodox Church.

    The first show will be in Moscow, and the movie will go on screen in dozens of movie houses in 40 Russian regions in the several weeks after that.

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    Post Gibson's 'The Passion' a Hit Among Arabs

    Gibson's 'The Passion' a Hit Among Arabs
    By NADIA ABOU EL-MAGD
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    April 4 2004, 11:35 PM CDT

    CAIRO, Egypt -- Hanan Nsour, a veiled, 21-year-old Muslim in Jordan, came out of "The Passion of the Christ" in tears and pronounced her verdict: Mel Gibson's crucifixion epic "unmasked the Jews' lies and I hope that everybody, everywhere, turns against the Jews."

    The Quran, though, says Jesus's crucifixion never happened.

    Such are the contradictions that are welling up as the Arab world deals with "The Passion," even as the film draws large audiences in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and other Arab countries that have approved it for screening.

    In the Arab world, openly voiced anti-Semitism -- and by extension the warm reception for "The Passion" -- is bound up in the Arab conflict with Israel. Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, after watching the film at his compound in the West Bank, was quoted by an aide as likening Jesus' suffering to the Palestinians'.

    When the 1998 animated movie "Prince of Egypt" reached Cairo, censors banned it. One reason given: Islam reveres Moses as a prophet, and many Muslims recoil at seeing their prophets portrayed as flesh-and-blood characters.

    Jesus is also a prophet to the Muslims, yet "The Passion" was OK'd by Egypt's censors with no changes. They have not explained why "The Passion" was allowed.

    Governments and Islamic clerics are also sending mixed signals.

    Kuwait bans any movies depicting any of the prophets recognized by Islam, but one of its top Shiite clerics, Ayatollah Mohammed Baqer al-Mehri, has urged an exception for "The Passion" because it "reveals crimes committed by Jews against Christ." The government has not yet made a decision on his call.

    The dean of Kuwait University's Islamic Law College, Mohammed al-Tabtabai, has ordered Muslims to shun "The Passion" on the grounds that Jesus is a prophet.

    In Jordan, a leader of the hard-line Islamic Action Front says Muslims should read the Quran or pray instead of watching movies, but he doesn't mind "The Passion" being screened in his country.

    "The Jews are the most upset with the movie because it reveals their crimes against the prophets, the reformers and whoever contradicts their opinions," Hamza Mansoor said.

    And in Egypt, the head of a department at Al-Azhar University that often advises the censors on these matters also is taking a hands-off approach.

    "My understanding is that it is about the last 12 hours in the life of the Christ, which involve Christians and Jews. Muslims have nothing to do with that," said Sheik Abdel Zaher Mohammed Abdel-Razeq.

    The Quran, Islam's holy book, is unequivocal in sura (chapter) 4, verse 157: "They said 'We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah' -- but they killed him not, nor crucified him. But so it was made to appear to them. And those who differ therein are full of doubts with no knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not."

    Muslims believe another man was crucified in Jesus's place.

    Many in the West accuse director Gibson of reviving the Jews-killed-Christ claim that has stoked anti-Semitism through the ages.

    "The Passion" is also being welcomed by the Middle East's Christian communities. Some Egyptian churches and Christian bookshops were selling pirated versions of "The Passion" for less than a dollar even before the film opened here.

    In the United Arab Emirates, a Gulf News editorial extolled the film for being "so close to the human condition in its depiction of betrayal, greed, falsehood, forgiveness and love. As Pope John Paul II has put it, `It is as it was!'"

    The Vatican denies the pope ever endorsed the movie with those words, and kept out of the controversy. But Cardinal Nasrallah Sfeir, head of the Maronite church in Lebanon, waded right in.

    "It is not exaggerated and portrays reality as it is. It is a very sad film and we did not feel there was any anti-Semitism there," Sfeir told reporters after watching the film at a private screening.

    Part of the film is spoken in Aramaic, an ancient language still spoken by a small minority in Syria.

    Salim Abraham, 37, a Christian journalist who speaks fluent Aramaic, said: "I was so very happy to see my language, for the first time ever, being spoken on the big screen and in such a powerful movie."

    "I think there is nothing anti-Semitic in it," Abraham added. "It gives the facts as they are, though they may be slightly exaggerated in some instances."


    Copyright © 2004, The Associated Press


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    Post Re: Gibson's 'The Passion' a Hit Among Arabs

    I saw the film and he was to me not really Antisemitic in any way at all.
    He was just what you read in the bible except some details (appearace of an transsexual devil or whatever) which have nothing to do with Jews.

    In fact Romans didnt get away too good at all.

    If this film was in any way Anti-Jewish, every bad word against single Jews must be Anti-Jewish.

    Just ridiculous.
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    Post ADL Blasts Gibson's Re-release Of 'The Passion'

    ADL Blasts Gibson's Re-release Of 'The Passion'



    Saturday, Mar. 19, 2005 Posted: 10:13:41AM EST


    Despite actor/director Mel Gibson’s attempt to “soften” the more explicit content of his major blockbuster “The Passion of the Christ,” the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) is still protesting the movie for its alleged role as a vehicle for anti-Semitism.

    Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director, issued a press-release on Tuesday regarding the recent re-release of the film, saying that while Gibson removed six minutes of violence and gore, he, “chose to leave untouched the anti-Jewish elements of the original, including scenes where Jews are portrayed as villains and responsible for the death of Jesus.”

    “As we come into the Christian holy season, it is troubling that Mel Gibson made changes to "The Passion of the Christ" to de-emphasize the violence, yet made no effort to mitigate or remove the film's anti-Jewish elements.”

    "The Passion Recut" demonstrates that Mr. Gibson indeed has the power to make changes. His recut is selective to accommodate concerns of excessive violence, but not those of the Jewish community and concerned Christians disturbed by his offensive portrayal of Jews that leads viewers to believe Jews are responsible for the death of Jesus.

    Our concern is that Gibson's "Passion of the Christ" and "The Passion Recut" will become the definitive version for the holy season, bringing to life on screen the most vicious anti-Semitic elements of traditional Passion Plays. It will continue to play again and again, year after year to audiences around the world without the benefit of the very public discussion that surrounded the film's initial debut in February 2004.

    In a world where anti-Semitism is on the rise and the classical canard that "the Jews killed Jesus" is being promulgated, Mr. Gibson has unfortunately become a contributor.

    The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's leading organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs and services that counteract hatred, prejudice and bigotry.



    Justin Camacho

    http://www.christianpost.com/article....passion/1.htm

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