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    Hail from Arnold's Land

    Hi, I'm a political science major in California who will probably go into the Airforce after college due to my patriotism and the bad economy lol. I'm German Hungarian English Scottish and a tiny bit Cherokee. I identify most with my German and Hungarian lineage.
    I became interested in Greek mythology at a young age, which led me to question Christianity and what exactly my German ancestors where up to in ancient times, I then learned about Odin and read the sagas and find them much more in line with my a-priorii instincts and empirical observations. I've always felt more comfortable surfing, doing philosophy or running in the woods than sitting in a pew listening to dogma. I see Western culture as a synthesis of the Classical and the Nordic. The USA to me is a second Roman Republic under which all tribes, including the Germanics, can cooperate to make the world a better place despite it's imperfections.
    I'm also a history buff, and a very proud but tolerant patriot. I also find myself amazed at the irrationality and 'inversion of morality' which has infected the policy making process. I also like coffee, especially mochas.

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    Hello Morning-Wolf, have a great time here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morning Wolf View Post
    The USA to me is a second Roman Republic
    Does that mean we get to destroy it and take its name? 'Holy United States of America' sounds awkward, though.

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    Welcome here, Morning Wolf, I hope you enjoy the stay.

    I'm curious about a thing, why is it so many Americans say they're mixed with Cherokee? Was this the most dominant tribe of the American Indians? What about the other tribes? I'm hearing a lot of Americans who have Cherokee ancestry were told some exotic tales about their families.

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    Welcome to the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siebenbürgerin View Post
    Welcome here, Morning Wolf, I hope you enjoy the stay.

    I'm curious about a thing, why is it so many Americans say they're mixed with Cherokee? Was this the most dominant tribe of the American Indians? What about the other tribes? I'm hearing a lot of Americans who have Cherokee ancestry were told some exotic tales about their families.
    Well, from what I've read it seems that the Cherokee where usually more inclined to trade than war with European settlers. They where more inland in safer hilly south eastern land, and formed an alliance called the 'Five Civilized Tribes', they took what they saw as admirable in colonial culture and added it to their own. It wasn't until the trail of tears that they lost their power, and before this had lived parallel to Europeans for a very long time, and so mixed with them more than other tribes. My family is lucky, we have photographs of some of our ancestors who retain their Cherokee looks but who married into and quickly assimilated into white society, and so weren't sent on the trail of tears. The first of our Cherokee line to marry a white was allegedly a warrior cousin to Pocahantus, although I can't confirm this.

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    Several hundred Cherokees refused to be sent to Oklahoma Territory, and retreated into the Appalachian and Great Smoky mountains of North Carolina. These mountains were heavily populated by Scots-Irish settlers as well, who were not too friendly towards the government, mainly because of the Federal government laws prohibiting the brewing of moonshine whiskey, a Scots-Irish tradition of long standing. The Cherokees, who already had adopted many European ways, usually spoke English and they fit in well among the North Carolina hillbillies, and often intermarried with them. This is one of the reasons so many Americans claim some Cherokee lineage.

    The farther removed from "polite society" and social restriction the greater the likelihood of racial intermarriage. There is also a population of people called Melungeons in the Great Smoky Mountains who are a amalgamation of Dutch, Hessian (German), Indians, African and Italians. In New York State similar people are known as "Jackson Whites," "Ramapos" or "Ramapough Lenard Indians." They live in the Ramapough Mountains, and during the American Revolution they supported the King. When the revolution was successful, they retreated into the mountains and became reclusive. For some reason they suffer a rather high incidence of genetic defects--polydactyly, snydactyly, "pie baldness", albinism, a sort of grayish skin color and mental retardation. In my opinion, of course, this sort of anarchic racial amalgamation should be illegal, although I doubt that these people would have been deterred from their miscegenation by any law.

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    Welcome, nice to see somebody having had interest in greek mythology in the past

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