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    Archaelogists Urged to Put Ethnic Sensitivity Before Truth

    Attempts to equate archaeological cultures with ethnographic cultures are problematic from more than just a scientific standpoint.

    Martin argues that determinations of where and when Iroquoian groups entered the region have political implications that relate to such modern concerns as American Indian land claims.

    He writes that "archaeology's role in society is not purely academic." It can have immediate consequences for a variety of stakeholders.

    Archaeologists, therefore, have a responsibility to become more attuned to the social context in which we do our work.

    http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...s&cat=&sid=101

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    Martin argues that determinations of where and when Iroquoian groups entered the region have political implications that relate to such modern concerns as American Indian land claims.

    He writes that "archaeology's role in society is not purely academic." It can have immediate consequences for a variety of stakeholders.

    Archaeologists, therefore, have a responsibility to become more attuned to the social context in which we do our work.
    I did not have a problem until I read this. I have not read Martin's article yet, but this snippet does throw up a red flag to me. I was taught that scientific investigations should be conducted without bias (whether intentional or unintentional) as much as possible. Instead, this seems to be saying that some societal bias is acceptable. Unfortunately, I fear that this view is becoming increasingly widespread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northerner View Post
    I did not have a problem until I read this. I have not read Martin's article yet, but this snippet does throw up a red flag to me. I was taught that scientific investigations should be conducted without bias (whether intentional or unintentional) as much as possible. Instead, this seems to be saying that some societal bias is acceptable. Unfortunately, I fear that this view is becoming increasingly widespread.
    Welcome to post-modern America in which qualification for the Supreme Court requires "empathy," scientists should be "attuned" to the "social context" of scientific investigations, peoples are replaceable, every day is a birthday, and every kid gets a trophy.

    Certainly we wouldn't want scientific truth to trample received wisdom and superstitious belief systems, e.g., liberalism. Someone might get their feelings hurt.

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    I suspect we would be shocked if we knew how much of historical findings have been either suppressed or twisted in order to avoid proclaiming the truth of Germanic achievement. Academics are more afraid of being called racist then of lying because their jobs are on the line. Who will dare give funding to those unwilling to value truth above propaganda?

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    I have noticed this has become more of the case in archeology, however it is far from the norm as most archaeologists in Britain still believe in the value of evidence of anything else. Maybe we in Britian will have to think about the feelings of Pakis when we dig an Anglo-Saxon site in the future?

    Mostly in Britain we have a problem with Wicca and Druids, where you have a silly situation developing where a 'druid', usually some silly old man with feathers in his hair, stands and watches what the archaeologists are doing, making sure that we show 'respect'. Honestly this shit goes on on some digs.

    Like he would have a clue about archaeological practice!!!

    In the USA, the situation is different as archeology and anthropology are closer to each other than in Europe, but I have a feeling that Professor Ian Hodder, who is a mad post-modern archeologist, may have something to do with this rubbish. He is always going on about 'native rites' and how this effects archaeological practice.

    What Prof. Hodder, in his infinite knowledge and wisdom has forgotten, is that without us, there would be no archeology in the first place.

    Seriously, post-modernism and relatives are a cancer in archaeology and will end with its total destruction.
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    Scientific Sensitivity and fact

    Welcome to the Post-modern age of the Euphemism and Political Correctness as the salve for excessive cultural sensitivities. Remember, black is no longer black, nor is white white. Everything is gray or can be black or white depending on the situation. Manipulation of the facts must be done with an eye to the situation at hand, taking into account the sensitivities is paramount.

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    This massaging of scientific fact is the kind of thing that goes on in totalitarian regimes and in theocracies.

    Orwell warned about this. Once you start having an "official truth" that is what will be assumed my many to be the actual truth. Meanwhile the true facts are confused or lost entirely.

    It only requires this to happen a relatively few times in a particular scientific discipline and soon it becomes impossible to tell fact from fiction.

    The whole discipline then is regarded as suspect and next to useless as a source of knowledge.

    This Martin fellow would cheerfully lead the way to a new dark-age.
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    Two word: Kali Yuga.

    It's unsurprising that ignorance is preferred over truth when truth is so heavily demonized.
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    The White race founded all the civilizations of any note in world history. We now know that Whites were in the Americas before the "native" Americans, but were genocided by these invaders. We know that the Tocharians were way out in the East. We know that the original Aryan society in India was led by White men, not by brown mongrels. We know that Egyptian pharaohs had Western European DNA.

    People would hang the liars if they knew what has been withheld from them.

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