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    Gothic & Symphonic Metal

    Does anyone here like gothic rock or gothic metal?

    Gothic rock (alternatively called goth rock or simply goth) is a genre of alternative rock that originated during the late 1970s. Originally, bands from the genre had strong ties to the English punk rock and emerging post-punk styles. The genre itself was defined as a separate movement from punk rock during the early 1980s. Gothic rock artists deal with dark themes and intellectual movements such as gothic horror, Romanticism, and nihilism. Notable gothic rock bands include Bauhaus, The Cure, Siouxsie & the Banshees, The Sisters of Mercy, and The Mission. Gothic rock gave rise to a broader goth subculture that includes goth clubs, goth fashions, and goth-oriented magazines.
    Gothic metal or goth metal is a subgenre of heavy metal music. In some instances it combines the aggression of heavy metal with the dark melancholy aesthetics of gothic rock. The genre originated during the early 1990s in Europe as an outgrowth of death/doom, a fusion of death metal and doom metal. The music of gothic metal is diverse with bands known to adopt the gothic approach to different styles of heavy metal music. Lyrics are generally melodramatic and mournful with inspiration from gothic fiction as well as personal experiences.

    Pioneers of gothic metal include Paradise Lost, My Dying Bride and Anathema, all from the north of England. Other pioneers from the first half of the 1990s include Type O Negative from the United States, Tiamat from Sweden, Sepolcrum from Italy, and The Gathering from the Netherlands. Norwegian band Theatre of Tragedy developed the "beauty and the beast" aesthetic of combining aggressive male vocals with clean female vocals, a contrast that has since been adopted by many gothic metal groups. During the mid-1990s, Moonspell, Theatres des Vampires and Cradle of Filth brought the gothic approach to black metal. By the end of the decade, a symphonic metal variant of gothic metal had been developed by Tristania and Within Temptation.

    In the 21st century, gothic metal has moved towards the mainstream in Europe, particularly in Finland where groups such as The 69 Eyes, Entwine, HIM, Lullacry, Poisonblack and Sentenced have released hit singles or chart-topping albums. In the US, however, only a few bands such as Nightwish, Lacuna Coil and Evanescence have found commercial success.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_metal

    Some of my favourite bands, I mentioned some before:

    After Forever
    Anathema
    Cradle of Filth
    Darkwell
    Epica
    Erben der Schöpfung
    Evanescence
    Flowing Tears
    Lacuna Coil
    Nightwish
    Sirenia
    Tapping the Vein
    The Cure
    The Gathering
    Therion
    Type O Negative
    Within Temptation
    Xandria

    etc. maybe I put some more laters on.

    After Forever - Energize Me


    Anathema - One Last Goodbye


    Cradle Of Filth - Nymphetamine


    Darkwell - Realm Of Darkness


    Epica - Cry For The Moon


    Erben der Schöpfung - Eine schwarze Rose für den Abschied


    Evanescence - "Call Me When You're Sober"


    Flowing Tears - Purple Red Soil


    LACUNA COIL - Closer


    Nightwish - Nemo


    Sirenia - The Other Side


    Tapping the Vein - The River


    The Cure - Lovesong


    The Gathering - Saturnine


    Therion - Son Of The Staves Of Time


    Type O Negative - Love You To Death


    Within Temptation - Stand My Ground


    Xandria "Ravenheart"

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    Hmm - I have never been particularly partial to Gothic Rock or Gothic Metal, though I have absolutely no problem with hearing it: A good friend's lady is quite into all that Gothic stuff, including the music, so every now and again the bunch of us will be subjected to that sort of music too. By now, I've actually grown used to it.

    Whenever I liked something throughout the ages that had some sort of "Gothic influence", then it was usually leaning more towards the BM side of things. Still quite high up with me ranks the 2003 album of CNK. It is really "Industrial Black Metal" though ...


    Count Nosferatu Kommando - Lord Kaiser Nosferat


    .... Though I must say that for some time back in 2004 or so I quite heavily listened to some songs by Theatres des Vampires, too. The admission that some of their oldsongs haven't lost any of their charm will probably lose me that "trv kvlt" image anyway...

    There would be for one their "We are the better Cradle of Filth" anthem ... Till the Last Drop of Blood. Actually, I am kidding. Actually a fairly good Melodic BM performance.

    Theatres des Vampires - Till The Last Drop Of Blood


    Their last reasonably listenable album is probably Suicide Vampire, during their sort of "transitional period" after that they went too far away from what they had done before and went straight into Gothic Metal proper. ( ) Below is their easily best-known song.

    Theatres des Vampires - La Danse Macabre Du Vampire



    From the ones you listed, I actually quite like to listen to Nightwish, old and new alike. I would not consider them "Gothic Metal" though. By that count, half of Metal should be "Gothic Metal".

    Ah yes, and just for the record, Darkwell are from my home town, Innsbruck.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    I used to be a bit of a Goth back in my late teens/early twenties and have had the pleasure to see bands like Bauhaus, Christian Death, Sisters of Mercy, Anathema live as well as a whole host of smaller "Goth" bands.

    I think early Goth was way more varied then more recent bands who seem to lack imagination and are way more generic, though this seems more so amongst the "Metal" rather then "Rock" branch. But still some good output in the genres.

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    Gothic rock, not so much, but gothic metal is one of my favorite genres, and it's pred. Germanic/white to boot.

    Here are some more band examples, although some may not be gothic proper but have gothic/dark influences. TB thinks it's depressing to listen to most of such music.

    Amberian Dawn, Finnish symphonic power/gothic metal band -

    Valkyries


    Autumn, gothic metal group from Netherlands -

    Gallery of Reality


    Bella Morte, US gothic/darkwave band -

    Fall No More


    Beseech, Swedish gothic metal -
    Forever Falling


    Bloodflowerz, German gothic metal band -

    Damaged Promises


    Dargaard, Austrian neoclassical/darkwave -

    In Nomine Aeternitatis


    Delain, Dutch gothic/symphonic metal -

    Sleepwalkers Dream


    Dreams of Sanity - Austrian gothic metal -

    Phantom of the Opera


    Eden weint im Grab, German gothic/dark metal -

    Traum des Bösen


    Edenbridge, Austrian gothic/symphonic metal -

    Higher


    Erben der Schöpfung/Elis, gothic metal band from Liechtenstein -

    Niemand Kennt Den Tod


    Entwine, Finnish gothic metal band -

    Everything For You


    Eternal Tears of Sorrow, Finnish symphonic death metal band with strong gothic metal influences -

    Bride of the Crimson Sea


    Eyes of Eden, German symphonic/gothic metal band -

    Winternight


    Fields of the Nephilim, English gothic rock band -

    Dead To The World


    For My Pain, Finnish gothic metal supergroup -

    Dancer in the Dark


    Leaves' Eyes, German-Norwegian gothic/symphonic metal -

    New Found Land


    Midnattsol, German-Norwegian gothic/symphonic metal -

    Desolation


    Mortal Love, Norwegian gothic rock/metal -

    I Want To Die


    Nemesea, Dutch gothic/symphonic metal -

    High Enough


    Season's End, British gothic/progressive symphonic metal -

    Ghost In My Emotion


    The Sins of Thy Beloved, gothic-doom metal -

    Until The Dark


    Theatre of Tragedy, death/doom, gothic metal Norwegian band -

    Fade


    Tiamat, Swedish gothic/black/death metal -

    Brighter Than The Sun


    To/Die/For, Finnish gothic metal -

    In the Heat of the Night


    Trail of Tears, a Norwegian gothic/symphonic black metal -

    Fragile Emotional Disorder


    Tristania, Norwegian symphonic gothic metal with death/doom influences -

    Angina


    We Are the Fallen, American gothic metal band -

    I Am Only One

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    How about Draconian? Excellent gothic/doom metal band, and one of the few Gothic metal bands I can get into. I mean, I like Tiamat (up to and including Wildhoney),Eternal Tears of Sorrow and Edenbridge, but Gothic metal just doesn't grab me in the sense other metal genres do.

    But yeah, BIG thumbs up for mentioning Dargaad and Fields of the Nephilim! Love both those bands, and such a shame the former isn't that known, since the music is absolutely beautiful.

    I also like a number of bands that don't necessarily fit the criteria of Gothic rock, but are still connected to the 'Dark scene', such as Sopor Aeternus, Arcana, Rome, Dead Can Dance, Faun, etc.
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    Well in my experience doom, death metal, etc. are genres more popular with the guys while gothic (or symphonic) metal can be considered softer or even "girly". I do like some doom/death metal myself but it's a bit heavier to listen to normally, I would rather play such stuff if I need some mood uplifting or adrenaline rush.

    e.g.

    Angizia, Austrian avant-garde gothic/folk metal -

    Es Reiten die Toten so Schnell


    Arch Enemy, Swedish melodic death metal -

    Yesterday Is Dead And Gone


    Children of Bodom, Finnish melodic death metal -

    Are You Dead Yet?


    HammerFall, Swedish power metal -

    Last Man Standing


    Manowar, American heavy/symphonic metal -

    Gates of Valhalla


    Mortemia, Norwegian gothic metal -

    The One I Once Was


    Týr, Faroese folk metal band -

    Hold The Heathen Hammer High


    Re: Draconian, this is a masterpiece.

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    Haha, yeah, it's true, but I have seen men who like gothic metal and women who like doom/death metal, it goes both ways. And by the way, I do like old Goth rock, like Sisters of Mercy, Joy Division, first Dead Can Dance album (I love their whole discography, but only the first album was Goth-rock), and the aforementioned Fields of the Nephilim.
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    Well, I love Symphonic Metal and I know that many metalheads (like Sigurd ) think of Symphonic Metal as something "girlish", but whatever, I´m a girl and therefore allowed to listen to it. Most Symphonic Metal bands are Germanic or at least overwhelmingly Germanic as well. And I can´t stand harder Metal. That´s simply to much noise and "roaaaarrrr" for my ears.

    And sorry, I don´t believe all these metalheads who say that Symphonic Metal sucks and that they don´t listen to it - how many of these metalheads like to listen to Simone Simons, for example? Her band "Epica" is as Symphonic Metal as Symphonic Metal can be.

    Epica - Phantom Agony


    An other good band I like is Sirenia (besides the usual suspects like Within Temptation):

    Sirenia - Path to Decay

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    goth bands

    My favorites are The Wake, Faith and the Muse, Corpus Delicti, Lycia/Bleak and Fields of the Nephilim.

    One of my absolute favorite meditations is listening to the wake on my harley on country back roads under a full moon.
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