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    Post Re: Communist Manifesto/Turn the Light on Communism

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoob
    Marxism tries to take primitive communalism, as practiced by many Hunter-Gatherer groups around the world (and where there is no nuclear family) - and apply it on a grand scale in modern industrialized societies.

    I notice that the Brits find Communalism inherently distasteful and unnatural - far more than do other peoples. Slavs tend to be more communal, naturally. Many Russian muzhiks lived a quite collective life right up to the Soviet era, when this was taken over by the state. So do many other ethnic groups. I think the Brits overestimate the atomized ego - it is as much a worthless hindrance as it can be an asset.
    I notice you slide from 'Communism' to 'communalism' - slight difference.
    I assume that hunter-gatherers operate within the aegis of the tribe, with clearly defined functions for males, females and children within that tribe.
    In other words, they are not as 'communal' as supposed by westerners who look at them from the outside. Most importantly such tribes are bound by strict hierarchical taboos and superstitious rituals which are fairly incomprehensible to us.

    Are we not beyond the industrialised state now in the west?
    Are we not now in the technological post-industrialised consumer state, where the proletariat has been thoroughly transformed into a consumer class [rather than producer]?

    As to generalising as regards Brits, Slavs etc., I hold to Nietzsche's distinction that the pre-Aryan strata in Eurasia [so covering Russia and the British Isles] are prone to communal ideas, while the Aryan ruling class are against it.
    Where the Aryan ruling caste is deposed or miscegenated, then communal ideas have the lead - they reassert to pre-Aryan mores.
    Where the Aryan ruling caste remains intact, then such ideas are held down and only foment in the under-classes [ressentiment].

    It is noticeable that in the British civil war, for example, that many of Cromwell's followers who adhered to communist ideas [Levellers etc.,] were of the brown-haired pre-Aryan strata.
    Nietzsche referred to ethnic maps of Germany and opined that regions where brown hair predominated yielded communalist ideas, and saw the revolutionary attempts of 1848 as the pre-Aryans rising against their Aryan masters.

    However, Aryan caste ideas must NOT be confused with individualism!
    I utterly reject that!
    Social atomisation is opposed to Caste and is used as form of dissolvent by communists of all kinds who want to deconstruct the Order of Rank to create a Levelled society.
    Why are there beings at all, & why not rather nothing?
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    Why are there beings at all, & why not rather nothing?
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    Post Re: Commie Manifesto

    Are we going to have a book study on it? I have read it repeatedly, but I think that it is mainly a work of propaganda.

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    Post Re: Commie Manifesto

    I am going to make these stickies into book studies when the time comes.

    This is a central text of course, and should be exposed for what it is - obviously it is not put up here as something to admire.

    At the moment we are still on Der Antichrist; when that has made some progress I'll start book studies on the others.
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    Post Re: Commie Manifesto

    Excellent

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    Post Re: Commie Manifesto

    What nonsense is this? I would advise virtually everyone here educate himself about Marxism before saying so much about it.

    BTW, Karl Marx himself considered the Communist Manifesto outdated ten years after writing it.

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    Re: Commie Manifesto

    The dream of the rearrangement of the money on all, is not possible on today's basis and will be possible never.

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