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    Russian Cro-Magnons

    Nikolay Valuev




    Leo Tolstoy


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    The first one reminds me more of Neanderthal then CM.

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    Valuev is indeed robust and posses heavy brows aswell as deep-set-in eyes, but other then that he is very different. For instance he clearly lacks prognathism and his nose is not as broad and low as it was the case for the Neanderthals. He is most likely an unreduced CM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
    He is most likely an unreduced CM.
    Most likely ? He is ! No trace of reducing in him. He must have longstanding pure CM lineage.
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    Neanderthal next to a modern man


    Lionel Richie next to a modern man




    Hmmmmmmmmm.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
    Nikolay Valuev
    It looks like a sledge-hammer was taken to his head as a child. I've never seen a facial/skull structure such as his.
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    Valuev is a pathological case of severe Acromegaly, this has nothing to do with his racial make up. Insofar Valuev is typical for nothing but his pathological condition and irrelevant for any form of speculation about his Cromagnoid or Neandertaloid heritage.

    That Neandertals had very full lips is rather unlikely, since primitive variants today have rather thin lips, like the Australid and Bambutid. Prognathy is another matter and a primitive trait, though also simply related to very large teeth of course, which has to be considered (f.e. in Australids).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    Valuev is a pathological case of severe Acromegaly, this has nothing to do with his racial make up. Insofar Valuev is typical for nothing but his pathological condition and irrelevant for any form of speculation about his Cromagnoid or Neandertaloid heritage.
    Many have suggested that his looks has to do with his size. But if you look at Yao Ming (who is even bigger then him) he doesn´t have that look


    Valuevs look has to do with him being unreduced CM. Most modern CM have many other influences which reduce their archaic traits.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    That Neandertals had very full lips is rather unlikely, since primitive variants today have rather thin lips, like the Australid and Bambutid. Prognathy is another matter and a primitive trait, though also simply related to very large teeth of course, which has to be considered (f.e. in Australids).
    Hmm, but whites have also very thin lips, Infact it is even a typical white feature. Based on your argument wouldn´t our thin lips also make us "primitive"?
    Also many Cro-Magnons have big teeths aswell.

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    Many have suggested that his looks has to do with his size. But if you look at Yao Ming (who is even bigger then him) he doesn´t have that look
    To begin with, not every tall individual is acromegal, this individual f.e. isnt - to end it, Acromegaly has also other physical symptoms, namely those Valuev has and there are even MUCH shorter acromegal individuals, f.e. because the disease began later, with the exact same CHANGES in the craniofacial area, because there are parts of the cranium and face, as well as distal body parts, hands and feets in particular, which can grow even after the adult stage if the hypophysis produces to much growth hormones, like its typical for the acromegal condition and cases.

    Hmm, but whites have also very thin lips, Infact it is even a typical white feature. Based on your argument wouldn´t our thin lips also make us "primitive"?
    No. To begin with its not a very important trait and most individuals as well as racial types have different traits of different (progressive-infantile-primitive) character. So the trait of very thin lips, especially if being combined with a broad mouth, is primitive, an individual possessing it doesnt have to be, if f.e. all other traits are progressive, whereas a Negrid with thicker lips but otherwise primarily primitive traits would be primitive.

    Its not just types which can be progressive-infantile-primitive, not even primarily so, but traits. Simply put, an individual with more progressive than other traits is progressive and so on...

    Also many Cro-Magnons have big teeths aswell.
    Among early Protoeuropoids primitive craniofacial traits were still more common than among modern Nordid, Mediterranid and Dinarid forms f.e. Additionally large teeth are also related to the diet of the human form in question and probably more common among otherwise progressive forms which live in a cold area and eat more often meat which is difficult to chew, probably even raw - thats one of the reasons for certain Mongoloids to have larger teeth one could speculate.

    And of course the large teeth are not the only reason for prognathy, as I already wrote in an older thread here.
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    Anyone going to post an example of a Russian Cromagnid? *Crickets*


    This thread is nothing more but an example of pseduo-science and nitpicking. Valulev is a Tatar (not an ethnic Russian) and Tolstoy in his youth was the spitting image of Matt Damon.

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