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    You can't put ethnic mixing and racial mixing on the same level. Ethnically mixed people can still be preservationists, if the ethnicities are very similar to each other or the different ancestry is very small, racially mixed persons however can't be preservationist, because race is a biological concept, unlike ethnicity which is more social and depends on culture and language. You can't compare if a German mixes with a Dane with a German mixing with a Negroid. In the first example they're both Aryan, in the second they aren't. Mixed people however can do something for the cause of preservation, by discouraging mixing and speaking against it. However mixed people tend to encourage more mixing because discouraging it would make them feel inferior, halfbreeds, etc.

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    Its funny. I go to black metal shows in hollywood and the majority of the crowd are fat mexicans wearing mjolnirs and NSBM shirts. Needless to say I feel more comfortable around them that at a punk show full of sharp skins and anarcho punks.

    A recent study suggests that almost all mexicans and "mexican-americans" are roughly 55% European 40% Amerindian and 5% sub-saharan african...

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    Mixed race people should just come to the big brown wonderland that is Hawaii, which has the largest percentage of persons of mixed race, who constitute some 20% of the total population. I've only met one mixed race person who was interested in Germanic preservation. He was half Indonesian and half American Scot/Irish/German mix. I felt very sorry for him, but was at a loss as to what kind of advice to give him. This is exactly why I'm so opposed to miscegenation, nothing leads to more unresolved confusion of identity in one's children.
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    I think that a person of mixed race can be a preservationist, but I believe it is very difficult as they automatically preclude themselves from procreating, they could however adopt a child from the race that they feel drawn too and if they raise that child correctly the child will understand the horror that the adoptive parent has been put through and should therefore grow up to be one of the strongest advocates of preservation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deary View Post
    What do you think is the best option for mixed persons? Should they not breed, find other mixed persons to procreate with, or try to assimilate into some group and dilute the part(s) of their heritage they do not identify with?
    I do not understand why anyone would like to preserve just for the sake of preserving.
    The idea that a mixed person should only procreate with another similar mixed person is highly idiotic. Every change is preserved just to preserve, nothing could be stronger against natural law than this.

    That said, people of mixed race can help us "preserving", by not procreating anymore, for just ethnic mixed persons the last options seems to be most feasible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    I felt very sorry for him, but was at a loss as to what kind of advice to give him. This is exactly why I'm so opposed to miscegenation, nothing leads to more unresolved confusion of identity in one's children.
    My girlfriend initially thought I was a monster for condemning race-mixing, until I explained to her that my opposition is largely due to how destructive the act is on the life of the mixed child. She then understood.

    I was recently involved in a debate on another (non-preservationist) forum about heritage and it turned out the person I was arguing with is half-Welsh, half-Moroccan. He ended up agreeing with the plight of preservation but asked: "Where does that leave me?". Like you Psychonaut, I didn't know what to tell him . It is not the mixed child's fault but the parents. He could have been raised 100% British but he'll never look European. I have a Dutch mother and was raised 100% English. Fortunately for me, Holland is genetically similar to England. Whilst I feel lucky be the product of two genetically similar ethnicities, I am technically a 'mixed person' who is a preservationist (despite what certain Skadi members try and tell me). Because of England/Holland's similar genetic history, I'm able to declare that from this generation on my bloodline will be fully English (or at least British), with no harm done. An English/Pakistani person does not have that option open to them.
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    I find it very odd how there are extremist groups in the US who idolize a supposed Indian ancestor, but then think all the brinkmanship and survivalist tactics they follow, will preserve the "White" Race. It's ZOG who's the race-mixing demagogue? Unfortunately, there is also the idea that mixture with Asians is somehow not as troublesome as breeding with Africans. The idea is to expunge all Semitic blood and try to match ethnolinguistics, so that Indo-Europeans breed along the lines of their languages and worship the religions not descended from Moses or Abraham. It is shaky reasoning to base one's identity on the antipathy to that of another, especially if both folkways exist primarily through one's own choice. I think anti-Semitism is a red-herring for something else.

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    Yes, if one is 1/2 Northern European and 1/2 Southern European of those two Nationalities, has the respective Nordid-Northwestern Euro dominant traits, he could be 1/2 Greek and 1/2 English, but have the respective English traits to pass for full English. It's one's personal choice to identify with whichever heritage he chooses to. As far as a mixed person goes, he must be 1/2 that claimed European Nationality with the other 1/2 minimal European. Someone who is 1/2 Welsh and 1/2 Moroccan could never be Welsh regardless if he turned out Skandonordid, but someone who is 1/2 Bulgarian and 1/2 Swedish, and wants to become Swedish then they can imo, even though the 1/2 Bulgarian isn't ethnically similar to Swedish, yet both biologically European.

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    I am unafraid of any Nordic admixture with Alpines or Mediterraneans; consider the Germanic practice of running off with local women in the Voelkerwanderung and Viking times. What percentage of maternal lineage in Iceland descends from other than Nordic, or Germanic in general? Can anybody really account for all those ancestors in those eras? What of surname changes, bastardy and adoption?

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