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    Quote Originally Posted by J Baughman View Post
    I have a lot of contact with Amish here and they have a problem with inbreeding. It is very common to see retardation and deformed children. One of the first signs is poor eyesight.
    Perhaps why my eye sight is so bad. A bit of cousin marriages in the pedigree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matrix View Post
    No, some are Celtic and some are Germanic. I am concerned with the preservation of Nordic ones, not the non-Germanic Icelandics.

    1. You are an American.
    2. I am not a teenager.

    You were saying my people were mixed I just showed you the evidence that yours are.I live, breath, work and live in Germany my Fatherland, maybe you should visit here once before you make stupid generalizations about Germans.

    1. All my family comes from Germany, I am German and don't need some ausländer telling me what he or she thinks I am.Soon I will have citizenship and it's because of my family being from Germany, in your foreign eyes does that make me a real German than? All my people here see me as just a German. I couldn't care less about your foreign thought's on or about my kin.
    2. If you say so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matrix View Post
    No, some are Celtic and some are Germanic. I am concerned with the preservation of Nordic ones, not the non-Germanic Icelandics.
    So, do the Celtic Icelanders speak some form of Gaelic? I don't mean to seem like I am always singling you out, but I think your ideas make zero sense at all a lot of the time (wouldn't essentially every Icelander have some Celtic genes since the founding population had a lot of Celtic DNA? Unless you were a decendant of some Norwegians or something that went in the last few hundred years, and they stuck to their own kind, I suppose. But still... wouldn't MOST have some celtic ancestry?).

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    Yes I was going to say, how exactly can one be sure? What he is saying sounds rather outlandish.

    One question I have about Iceland that I am ignorant of is, how much of the current population is descended from the early settlers, versus those who came at a relatively recent date through later immigration (from perhaps Norway)? I don't know the history of Iceland well beyond the viking days, so I will look into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resist View Post
    When we talk about mixed people, we should be clear what we are talking about.

    People of mixed Germanic ethnicities?
    People of mixed European ethnicities, Germanic with non-Germanic?
    People of mixed races?

    The former two categories can still preserve their heritage. The latter is doubtful.

    What defines ethnicity? A combination of race, language and culture. Every ethnicity has a characteristic subrace that dominates, and some other subraces which, while minorities, are still to be encountered. Since there are no English Congoids, An English-Congoid mix will look offish, completely foreign.
    This doesn't really help, since everyone (especially in circles such as Skadi) has their very own conception of what constitutes mixed-races/racial mixing.

    The Negroid-Caucasoid or Mongoloid-Negroid mixed race individuals are obviously of mixed race, that is pretty direct. But where does racial mixing stops? According to many Anglo-Saxon Nationalists, people who are Half-Irish and Half-Anglo Saxon are wogs and half-breeds and such things are equals to race mixing.

    Is a Half-Lappland Half-Norwegian person of mixed race? is a Half-Swedish Half-Iberid person of mixed race?

    Depending on the persons, you will get a variety of responses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Einarr View Post
    Yes I was going to say, how exactly can one be sure? What he is saying sounds rather outlandish.

    One question I have about Iceland that I am ignorant of is, how much of the current population is descended from the early settlers, versus those who came at a relatively recent date through later immigration (from perhaps Norway)? I don't know the history of Iceland well beyond the viking days, so I will look into it.
    Most are descendants from Viking Age settlers, both Vikings and Celts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matrix View Post
    Eastern Germans and Prussians are Slavic in origin.
    Eastern Germans are predominantly Western German in origin; Prussia proper had no Slavic presence before the Reformation, when Masovian protestants settled in the southern fringe as a distinct ethnic group.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matrix View Post
    No, some are Celtic and some are Germanic.
    Why do you keep using ethnic terms for racial types that are significantly older?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matrix View Post
    I am concerned with the preservation of Nordic ones, not the non-Germanic Icelandics.
    That has to be mediated through social space in any case. The question "Can Mixed Persons Be Preservationist?" then translates into "Can Non-Nordid Members of the Same Ethnic Group Participate In A Nordicist Agenda?"

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    The best solution seems to allow these (ethnically mixed) people to reproduce only with other germanic peoples. Just like the Japanese did with the aborigines on Hokkaido island, just like the Norwegians did to the Saamis.

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    I think it depends on the mix. Ethnically mixed? Between Germanic or European groups? That's America, Australia, Canada, etc. Such societies can exist. Most of us are mixed to a degree.

    Racially mixed? That's a little more complicated. I wouldn't tell someone not to breed, but I think it would depend on the mix. If they have a small amount of non-European blood, they could either choose people of similar degree or to try to dilute that part of their blood. I think people should be straightforward about it though, if they have a relationship with someone unmixed who is proud of the pedigree of their heritage.

    Personally, as someone of mixed Germanic heritage, I would be happy with someone of a similar ancestry composition as me. I wouldn't say no to a pure Scandinavian either, but I would make sure that that is what they wanted. I would understand if someone who was fully Norwegian for example preferred someone of similar stock. It wouldn't offend me.

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