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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens View Post
    The post you responded to is about mothers, and Gustaaf's claim that women are inherently incapable of setting boundaries for children. The post is his justification for why men should dominate women in decisions about child rearing..
    Many people find it difficult to set boundaries because they are themselves victims of a bad upbringing influenced by leftist/ liberal norms and laissez-faire ideals. They think that love, tenderness and pleading with the child is enough. It is not.

    Generally speaking, many women do have more problems establishing authority in the home than men do, even though many modern men seem to have lost the ability, too.

    There was a TV series from England, I think, that showed dysfunctional families where the mother especially was almost terrorized by her children just the way that he described it, since they had no respect for her at all. It was not hard to see why, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freja_se View Post
    Generally speaking, many women do have more problems establishing authority in the home than men do, even though many modern men seem to have lost the ability, too.
    I think that is an incarnation of liberalism, not femininity. I've never seen a disparity between men and women in their ability to dish out punishment and discipline in among my circle of acquaintances and family. I think the absence of fathers tends to highlight women who fail, but I doubt putting their husbands in charge of the situation would change matters. They are liberal people. They suck at child rearing.

    I don't think a conservative woman should be suspected of having an innate desire to be a hippy about her child rearing policies and categorically overruled. It is entirely possible for a conservative woman to have a better, more educated opinion about child rearing than the father of her children, who is, in a traditional household, always less experienced.
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    I'm going to go out on a limb here and point out that our idea of a housewife is a fairly modern construction.

    Consider a town in the Middle Ages. The women aren't micro-managing the kids. They're helping out with the farm, gathering herbs and berries, working a loom, that sort of thing. Childcare is a collaborative effort by the extended family.

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    I was always happy and content being a wife and mother. I love to cook, bake, sew, work in the garden, and most of all I enjoyed taking care of my husband when he came home from a long and hard day at work. We were married for 7 years before our first child was born. And then I became a mother and I had not just my husband to spoil but I also had to take care of our child. When our second child was about 2 or so, a young co-worker of my husband was killed on the way to work leaving behind a young wife and two small children. Fortunately there was family to help and assist. Otherwise I don't know what would have happened to a young widow trying to raise two small children, no trade, no degree...life in the rural South would have been very hard, perhaps even impossible unless she would have found another husband. After this incident my husband approached me and suggested that I should think about going back to school to get a degree. He assured me that he would help me with our children and whatever else needed to be done while I was away from home to study "if something ever happens to me I want you to raise our children in Dixie. In such a situation I want you to be independent and be able to stand on your own two feet." I first started as a part time student, but after a year I went to school full time. I also started out being a math major but later changed the major. This actually turned out to my benefit.


    To make a long story short, it took 7 long years until I had reached my goal. My advanced degree enabled me to have a career as well as a wonderful marriage and home life. I was able to work part-time or full-time, pretty much pick the days I wanted to work. Our marriage and our home life always came first. I worked part-time and full-time, even home schooled our youngest son for almost seven years while working part-time. My husband always remained the head of our family unit, I would have not wanted it any other way, despite me having a career. Our sons were already grown when my husband, who was never sick as long as we knew each other, became quite ill with flu-like symptoms. Well, it wasn't the flu. He immediately became disabled and exactly 18 month and two days after being diagnosed with Squamous Cell Lung Carcinoma Stage IIIb he closed his eyes in our home surrounded by his family.


    Where am I going with this? For six month after he was diagnosed, unable to work, no income, not even disability since there is a six month waiting period, keeping his health insurance, Cobra payments of 600 FRNs per month for eighteen month, the weekly trip(s), 100 mile one way, to the cancer clinic for palliative treatments, I worked and supported us. I would have never been able to do this without having gone back to the university to obtain a degree and at least work a bit to develop a career. Our daughter was still in school when my husband died. Without my job we would not even have health insurance at this time.

    So yes, being a housewife is a great calling. In the past when there still was an extended family unit it certainly was enough to be a housewife and a wife and a mother. People have changed and today the extended family unit rarely exists. As for me, I think it is important for a woman to be able to have a trade or a degree which she can use to support herself and her family if the need arises. I have seen so many situations where the opposite was true and when the provider of the family no longer is able to provide, this can happen to any family, it is a disaster.
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    For the first time in my life, I actually cooked dinner tonight for the family and felt more right than working 8 hours a day' when a unemployed man could had my job. Felt like I belonged in the kitchen, more so than at work. Felt good too!

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    Reading over the comments (more like essays) on the last article I penned, I would like to bridge what obviously seems to be a gap between White Nationalists and females. Being both myself (no, I’m not Greg Johnson, but I will take that as a compliment), I have access to the minds of beautiful and fertile Caucasian goddesses, which, judging from the lack of female representation on WN sites, you probably don’t share. Instead of condemning me and taking the side of bitter pussy-obsessed mansophere gurus, you should be pumping me for information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berlichingen View Post
    I'm going to go out on a limb here and point out that our idea of a housewife is a fairly modern construction.
    Of course it is, we live in modern times. The important question is whether this modern idea of a housewife respects the essential qualities of women (and of men) in the same way as it was done in other times, albeit that the pracitical implementation of it is different due to the fact that it had to be adjusted to a different type of society.

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    What I find kind of amusing about the whole housewife thing is that the system really broke down not because women resented having so much drudgery to do at home, but because the drudgery had been replaced by labour saving devices (for middle class women) and they were bored. The opposition to that system was the tantrum of a bored child.

    I still kind of resent it, they had too much leisure time and instead of making the best of it, using the time to think and learn and create and build, they had a tantrum and begged to be allowed to go out and engage in drudgery in the workplace instead.

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    My last partner initially had no problem with my staying at home and taking care of the house, but as our relationship continued and he cheated; he told me to find employment. I take it he was afraid of the idea of my finding another man in a workplace setting. Once he started cheating and formed relationships with these other women, he basically told me to get a job and move out. You take a real chance when you drop out of the workforce to take care of household, partner, and children.
    When you're out of the workforce for a number of years, finding work can be difficult. Be careful girls; those of you considering becoming housewives. When the relationship is over, you're just a used up old bag who has very little to put down on a resume. Keep some sort of employment while you're playing housewife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flemish View Post
    My last partner initially had no problem with my staying at home and taking care of the house, but as our relationship continued and he cheated; he told me to find employment. I take it he was afraid of the idea of my finding another man in a workplace setting. Once he started cheating and formed relationships with these other women, he basically told me to get a job and move out. You take a real chance when you drop out of the workforce to take care of household, partner, and children.
    When you're out of the workforce for a number of years, finding work can be difficult. Be careful girls; those of you considering becoming housewives. When the relationship is over, you're just a used up old bag who has very little to put down on a resume. Keep some sort of employment while you're playing housewife.
    I feel like deciding how to live my life on the assumption that divorce is probable is a deeply depressing thought (especially since I am adamant now at least that if I were to be divorced I would not remarry - although I never much had a problem with being alone so it's not such a hard thought for me unless it were to happen before I had a reasonable number of children).

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