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    Lightbulb RuSHA Racial Criteria for ϟϟ and Germanization Candidates

    This is a link to slide show of portraits made by ϟϟ artist Wolfgang Willrich. You can clear judge about Nordic phenotype of Allgemeine-ϟϟ members. File is in Microsoft Power Point format.

    Also here is a part of the text, originally published in Eugenics Bulletin (Winter 1985), about ϟϟ racial selection criteria and peculiar Lebensborn homes in purpose of breeding endogamous biological elite. Heinrich Himmler said that in close future on every essential position in Reich administration will be members of Schutzstaffel and Alfred Rosenberg expected that ϟϟ leader class of the state will be about 80 % of Nordic blood. Link to the full text is below.



    ϟϟ
    SELECTION AND MARRIAGE CRITERIA


    The National Socialist attempt to create a biological elite from which would come the future leadership corpus of the Reich was centered upon the ϟϟ. The program was initiated by Himmler in April 1929, four years before Hitler 's accession to power, when he submitted to him and to the current chief of the SA a draft of regulations according to which no one was to be allowed to enter the ϟϟ who did not meet the strictest criteria, which were almost exclusively racial and aimed at selecting for Nordic phenotypes (Hoehne 1971: 59). In a wartime speech, Himmler described the program retrospectively [...]

    Applicants for the ϟϟ had to submit photographs, and Himmler would peer at them through a magnifying glass until he was convinced that the applicants possessed "good blood" (Hoehne 1971 : 60) . On one occasion he told his officers:

    "I used to think: are there any definite indications of foreign blood in this man--prominent cheekbones, for instance, which might cause people to say "he has a Mongolian or Slav look about him"? Why did I do that? Let me draw your attention to the lessons of experience. Think of the types who were members of the soldiers' councils in 1918 and 1919" (Hoehne 1971: 60).
    (The soldiers' councils were German soviet-style Communist organizations.)

    Hitler held out to the World War I generation of soldiers the prospect of the formation of a racial aristocracy, an ideological elite. In the late 1930s, he ordered the RuSHA (Rasse und Siedlungshauptamt = Race and Settlement Main Office) to compose new and more stringent criteria for ϟϟ candidates. ϟϟ-Hauptsturmfuehrer (Captain) Professor Bruno K. Schultz, a physical anthropologist, transmitted a set of criteria to the RuSHA Racial Commission, before which all prospective ϟϟ members had to appear for their final examinations (Hoehne 1971: 166).

    Schultz divided his criteria into three parts: racial phenotype, physical condition, and "general bearing". He aimed his set of values to favor the Nordic type. He listed five racial groupings:

    - "pure Nordic,"
    - "predominantly Nordic or Falic"
    [Falic = Brunn],
    - "harmonious bastard [cross-breed] with slight Alpine, Dinaric or Mediterranean characteristics,"
    - "bastards of predominantly East Baltic or Alpine origin,"
    and
    - "bastards of extra-European origin".


    Only those in the first three categories were eligible to join the ϟϟ. Schultz also composed a list of nine categories of physical proportion as a guide for the physical examination of ϟϟ candidates (Hoehne 1971: 166). Candidates achieving ratings of 6-9 were passed; categories 4 and 5 were only passed after proving "Nordic qualities" in their behavior; while ratings 1-3 were failed (Knoebel 1965: 26). Himmler was adamant that his men be "of well-proportioned build; for instance there must be no disproportion between the lower leg and the thigh or between the legs and the body; otherwise an exceptional bodily effort is required to carry out long marches" (Hoehne 1971: 166-167). As to "Nordic bearing", Himmler put it this way: "The point is that in his attitude to discipline the man should not behave like an underling, that his gait, his hands, everything, should correspond to the ideal which we set ourselves". (Hoehne 1971: 167)

    No mention was made of intellectual or educational attainments. As Knoebel (1965: 27) states: "No moral and intellectual achievement was refined to qualify as a Herrenmensch [a man born to be master]." Knoebel (1965:18) explains why this had to be the case:

    "... Certainly the
    ϟϟ never could have been developed along educational or social lines. The only criterion which could serve as a uniting bond was to establish the new elite along the lines of racial selection. This would make the ϟϟ attractive to ambitious upstarts as well as promise continued membership in the new elite to upper bourgeoisie and especially the nobility. Himmler had been fascinated with eugenic breeding ever since he had studied poultry science."

    Alcoholics were rejected or expelled, as Knoebel (1965: 29) makes clear: "Others, who qualified superbly according to the racial charts by the commission, were dismissed because they were found incapable of controlling their consumption of alcohol." On December 31, 1931 Himmler issued a marriage law for ϟϟ men which stated that they could marry "solely if the necessary conditions of race and healthy stock were fulfilled" and only after approval by him or by RuSHA. The ϟϟ man and his fiancee had to fill out a RuSHA questionnaire, take a comprehensive physical examination administered by an ϟϟ doctor, provide photographs of themselves in bathing suits taken from three angles, and submit proof of Aryan ancestry back to 1800 (for officers, back to 1750). (The term "Aryan" as used in National Socialist laws and regulations denoted a person of non-Jewish European origin.) RuSHA would determine if both prospective spouses deserved to be entered into the ϟϟ clan book; in the case of ϟϟ leaders, Himmler would make the decision personally (Hoehne 1971: 168-169, 177). To quote this order:


    ϟϟ Marriage Order (December 31, 1931)

    1. The
    ϟϟ is a formation of German men in the Nordic mold.

    2. In keeping with National Socialist ideology and cognizant that our national future depends upon the selection and preservation of racially and hereditarily good stock, I am . . introducing a "marriage permit" for all single members of the
    ϟϟ.

    3. The intended aim is (to produce) a valuable clan of German stock in the Nordic mound.

    4. The marriage permit will be granted or refused solely on grounds of race and hereditary health.

    5. Every
    ϟϟ man who intends to marry must obtain a marriage permit from the Reichsfuehrer-ϟϟ.

    6.
    ϟϟ members who marry notwithstanding the refusal of a marriage permit will be expelled from the ϟϟ.

    7. The relevant processing of marriage applications will be the task of the Racial Bureau of the
    ϟϟ.

    8. The Racial Bureau of the
    ϟϟ will keep the Clan Book of the ϟϟ in which the families of ϟϟ members will be entered after a marriage permit has been issued or a request for registration granted (Bleuel 1974: 265-266).
    Jochen van Lang (1979: 440-444) has reproduced the actual ϟϟ medical examination form as it stood in late 1939. It was designed to be employed for both male and female applicants. The examination was divided into five sections:

    - "Permission for Disclosure"
    - "Past History of Family"
    - "Past Medical Treatment"
    - "Personal History"
    - "General Findings of Examination"


    Under "Past History of Family", the only category of interest here is "precise data on chronic diseases, i.e., endocrine disturbances, allergies, alcoholism." Family members included children, parents, siblings, children of siblings, and grandparents. Under "Personal History" there was a question about "Mental development (schooling, career training, delinquency if any)", on which the candidate had only to secure a rating of "normal" (average), and two questions on "Character development" and "Noteworthy special giftedness."

    Section 5 was the most detailed and significant. It included a whole series of anthropometric and somatotypic measurements, as well as points on "Bearing and stride", coloration of skin and eyes, coloration and texture of hair, and presence or absence of the Mongolian fold (inner epicanthic eyefold). The racial diagnosis followed, and then a long list of meticulous medical determinations. For women, the listing "Capability to bear children" appeared, and for men "Reproductive capability." The nebulous listing "Degree of talent" followed, but could be passed simply by a rating of "normal".

    Next followed the question, "Does the subject of the examination make a credible and frank impression?" Finally, the form requested a "Summary judgment on suitability for marriage", and four questions were asked: "Total impression"; "Is perpetuation in racial/national sense desirable?"; "Are any conditions present that would affect medical opinion to contraindicate advisability of entering into a pregnancy?"; and "Is the subject now pregnant?" The rest of the form largely contained standard medical questions, although in greater number, detail, and specificity than one would normally expect.

    Himmler expected his newborn biological elite to have large families, and did virtually everything in his power in the way of propaganda and indoctrination to assure such a result. In 1936 he decreed that ϟϟ men should marry between the ages of 25 and 30 (Smith 1975: 234). In the former, and in the latter as well, he was to be bitterly disappointed. The ϟϟ birth rate differed little from that of the population of the Reich as a whole. Knoebel (1965: 68-69) states:

    "The ideal image of an
    ϟϟ family as portrayed in the ϟϟ Manuals consisted of a rather young couple surrounded by a large number of children. Yet the image was a fraud and statistics for 1937, for example, belie this picture. They show that the leaders of the ϟϟ, who often had adequate incomes, by and large remained captives of bourgeois customs. They enjoyed the convenience their positions afforded but were reluctant to assume the inconvenience and burden of a large family. According to statistics, each married ϟϟ officer who did not derive his income from the ϟϟ had 1.59 children. The ratio of children per marriage was a mere 1.28 children for those officers who were employed full-time by the ϟϟ or one of its sub-branches."

    As of the end of 1939, instead of Himmler's heavily-emphasized average of 4 children, the 115,650 married ϟϟ men under officer rank had an average number of children per family of only 1.41. Even his broad hints that illegitimacy was fully acceptable for ϟϟ men if the women involved were of "good blood" availed practically nothing: of 12,081 children of married ϟϟ leaders between 20 and 50 years of age, only 135 were illegitimate (Hoehne 1971: 178-179).

    A caveat to be entered here is that these sets of figures could not, in many cases, have represented completed fertility. One must remember that the Waffen-ϟϟ, which composed the vast bulk of ϟϟ membership by 1941, sustained battle losses far in excess of those of other branches of the German fighting forces, many units being virtually decimated, which obviously had serious effects on the overall ϟϟ birth rate. In addition, the average age of members of the Waffen-ϟϟ was significantly lower than that of members of the other branches of the fighting forces, and this was especially true of the officers.

    What can be validly stated about this entire program from the standpoint of positive eugenics? Himmler undoubtedly saw it in positive eugenic terms. Several selection criteria fit into the framework of positive eugenics: freedom from hereditary defects, "noteworthy special giftedness" (a rather indefinite phrase), and good health. In addition, as noted, alcoholics were expelled. However, if one looks at the overall aims and criteria employed, one sees that they were largely racial--as Himmler intended. It is valid, then, to conclude that his program was intended to be positive eugenics--as eugenicists understand the term to some extent, but that the bulk of it can not be so characterized.


    Source: Eugenics.net

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    SS Racial Card

    Probably some members of Skadi Forum are versed in schematically ϟϟ Racial classification system, but surely others are not. I found some scanned pages on the web, so download it first:

    http://www.uni-klu.ac.at/~hstockha/neu/Materialien_zur_Rassenanthropologie.pdf


    From the standpoint of Racial Politics in Third Reich page 65 of the document is the most important; so I tried to interpreted it and translate in English. In this job I partly failed, so this thread needs support by German spiking friends and all others for opinion. Those who can write a comment on page 64 this is the right place!

    Conclusion was made in "E-Prüfer Nr." (under nr. 65) which will be explained.

    In right upper part of the page is follow table:



    First column from the right are marked with Roman numbers "I, II, III, IV", they comprehend four basic racial groups in according with suitability for individual membership in "Allgemeine-ϟϟ" and "Germanization" policy. Explanation for them can be found on pages dealing with detailed examination made by RKFDV team, about racial constitution of Lower Styria (Untersteiermark, eastern Slovenia). This territory was annexed to the Reich after Yugoslavian war defeat in April 1945.

    RKFDV: Reichskommissar für die Festigung deutschen Volkstums - Reich Commissioner for the Consolidation of German Folk.

    http://www.net4you.at/erinnern/ferenc/
    http://www.net4you.at/erinnern/ferenc/127.rtf

    Here is one relevant excerpt:

    Es wurden folgende vier rassische Wertungsgruppen unterschieden:

    I. Rein nordisch und rein fälisch, erbgesundheitlich und leistungsfähig erstklassig.

    II. Vorwiegend nordisch und fälisch mit harmonischem Einschlage von dinarisch und westisch, ferner ausgeglichene Mischlinge von nordisch-fälisch mit dinarisch und westisch; ferner Dinarier, soweit sie nicht dem Gesamtrassenbilde des deutschen Volkes zu fremd erscheinen (untere Grenze 5c A III).

    III. Weniger ausgeglichene Mischlinge mit überwiegend dinarischem oder westischem Anteile und mit merklichen ostischen oder ostbaltischen Merkmalen (untere Grenze c-d BI).

    IV. Unausgeglichene Mischlinge, rein ostisch, rein ostbaltisch, ferner Personen mit aussereuropäischem Einschlag, Fremdblütige (vorderasiatisch, orientalisch, negroid, mongolid), ausserdem erscheinungsbildlich schwer Erbkranke.
    By simple software translation (and little change terminology for racial types):

    The following four racial groups of valuations were differentiated:

    I. Pure Nordic and pure Faelish (type), hereditary health and efficiently first-class.

    II. Predominantly Nordic and Faelish with harmonious impact of Dinaric and Meditteranean (westisch), furthermore balanced half-breeds of Nordic-Faelish with Dinaric and Meditteranean types; furthermore Dinaric, as far as they do not appear too strange to the total race picture of the German people (lower limit 5c A III).>[see post bellow!]

    III. Less balanced half-breeds with predominantly Dinaric or Meditteranean (racial) dues and with noticeable Alpine or East Baltic characteristics (lower border CD BI).

    IV. Unbalanced half-breeds, pure Alpine, pure East Baltic, furthermore persons with non-European impact, Foreign types (Hither-Asiatic, Oriental, Negroid, Mongoloid), in addition (featuring) heavily hereditary patient.


    This is excerpt from RKF-DV report (from 14. Okt. 1941) about racial composition of annexed population. Note (!!!) suitability for "Germanization and Evacuation" program and membership for Allgemeine-SS are not the same! For both only groups I and II are considering racially valuable (in theory, not always in practice!), but for the first whole households are included, so also group III is occasionally tolerable. Thus in the case of 320.000 Slovenians 50% (not 18!) of population was comprised for "Germanization" (Eindeutschung) and resettlement policy.

    See: "Generalsiedlungsplan" from 10-1942, Konrad Meyer-Hetling.


    Symbols in the second column (from the right, previous table) corresponded with (SS-Obersturmbannführer) Bruno K. Schultz's racial classes:

    Schultz… listed five racial groupings: "pure Nordic," "predominantly Nordic or Falic" [Falic = Brunn], "harmonious bastard [cross-breed] with slight Alpine, Dinaric or Mediterranean characteristics," "bastards of predominantly East Baltic or Alpine origin," and "bastards of extra-European origin." Only those in the first three categories were eligible to join the SS.
    Taken from: http://www.eugenics.net/papers/3rdreich.html


    So AI, AII and AIII are those first three racial categories; BI and BII are "bastards of predominantly East Baltic or Alpine origin" and C group include "bastards of "extra-European origin".

    The same explanation can be added to third column (a, b, c, c/d, d and e); "d" represent Alpinid and Baltid types, other letters are quite clear.


    Schultz also composed a list of nine categories of physical proportion as a guide for the physical examination of SS candidates (Hoehne 1971: 166). Candidates achieving ratings of 6-9 were passed; categories 4 and 5 were only passed after proving "Nordic qualities" in their behavior; while ratings 1-3 were failed (Knoebel 1965: 26).
    In deadly concentration camp "Jasenovac" in Croatia (from WWII), nine anthropological measurements were taken and recorded from political prisoners: Height, form of the head, face and nose, eyes (description), lips, chin and pigmentation (hair and eyes). This procedure was copied from German camp practice.

    Source: "Jasenovac" by Antun Miletic, narodna knjiga. Beograd, 1989.


    These nine categories are probable the same and represent nine digits in the first column from the left. They possible can be summarized 21 anthropological features from left table. Better translation of it is needed, my is very scanty, I used simple dictionary.




    * Superior oblique?


    So, this is my suggestion for summarization:

    1. Height/Build (Including also Growth form, Posture, Leg-lent relation)

    2. Head form (in according with C.I. ???) (Back head form)

    3. Face form (Cheek bones?)

    4. Nose (Nasal ridge, Nasal root height, Nasal breadth)

    5. Eyes (Eye depth, Lid shape, Eye folds form)

    6. Lips

    7. Chin

    8. Hair form (Body hair?)

    9. Pigmentation (Hair color, Eye color, Skin color)


    Similar list can be extracted from H.F.K. Gunther's table:
    http://container.zkm.de/lfh/pdf/B006DT07E.PDF
    http://container.zkm.de/lfh/pdf/B006DT07D.PDF

    It needs correction and opinion from other members! For example what is lower limit second or third mark of above capability? Fifth is very problematic, it is hard to imagine SS man with mongolian fold, brown skin, deformed beck head, under 150 cm tall etc.





    This row stand under above Chart (50-62).

    Empty fields had to be allotted in accordance with racial substance of individual. Predominant elements were marked otherwise (see post bellow)? The letters represent separate races:

    N - Nordisch (Nordid)
    F - Fälisch (Dalofaelid)
    D - Dinarisch (Dinarid)
    W - Westisch (Meditteranid)
    O - Ostisch (Alpinid)
    Ob - Ostbaltisch (Osteuropid, East Baltid)
    Va - Vorderasiatisch (Anadolid, Armenid)
    Or - Orientalisch (Orientalid)
    Aa - Aussereuropäischem Anteile ???
    M - Mongolid
    N - Negroid

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    Re: SS Racial Card

    From the total data from page 65 "E-Prüfer Nr." (in bottom) is brief conclusion. For better understanding direct examples are the best (bold letters); so I think extracted document bellow, used in "RuSHA Trial" (1948, Rasse und Siedlungshauptamt), is quite helpful.

    Brief portrait on "RuSHA Trial": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RuSHA_Trial

    Typical "Profile Nr." For example - N.d.w. 5 c A III - RuS II => mean - Person of Nordid race predominant (big letter) with Dinarid and Med. elements (small letters), 5 c A III , group II => see table in SS-card.





    PARTIAL TRANSLATION
    OF DOCUMENT NO-5837
    PROSECUTION EXHIBIT 846


    DUTY TRIP REPORT 13/44 BY SS SERGEANT RATZEBURG,
    23 OCTOBER 1944


    Wiesbaden, 23 October 1944


    Reinhold Ratzeburg, SS Sergeant
    [SS Oberscharfuehrer]
    and Racial Examiner 154

    Duty Trip Report 13/44


    Racial Examiner SS Sergeant R. Ratzeburg.

    Examined area: Mainz, Bingen, Alzey, Worms, Speyer, Neustadt
    and Bruchmuehlbach.

    Examined Files: Interruption of pregancy, special treatment,
    marriages, marriages of foreigners and re-
    Germanizations.

    Duration of the trip From 16 October 1944 to 21 October 1944.



    I. Health Office - Mainz on 16 October 1944 at 0830 hours


    1. Interruption of pregnancy -

    a. Polish woman Anna Gedzun W.n.o. 5 d B II - RuS IV, Begetter according to picture: N.f.ob. 5 c A III-RuS II. Of no interest!

    b. Eastern worker Natalij Michajlawa, O.w.n. (-?) 4 d B II-RuS IV Begetter Ob.o.d. 4 d B II RuS IV, no objection to interruption.

    c. Sadovska, Nasarenko, Krawtschuk, Ryleisziowa, and Musial did not appear!



    II. GESTAPO branch office - Mainz on 16 October 1944 at 1400 hours

    1. Special treatment -

    a. Tracewicz, Anton-Rasp, Maria, T. was N.ob.o (w?) 5 c/d B I-Rus III (See DRB 10/44 Via)

    b. Nitka, Wladislaus, n.d.ob. (w?) 4 c A III-RuS II, wants to join the Waffen SS. [handwritten] Report



    III. Health Office - Bingen on 17 October 1944 at 0800 hours

    1. Interruption of pregnancy -

    a. Anna Orlowa, already sent to hospital-Alzey for delivery on 13 October 1944.



    IV. Health Office - Alzey on 17 October 191, at 1600 hours

    1. Interruption of pregnancy -

    a. Eastern worker Anastasia Kulik, N.ob.w. 4 c/d B I-RuS III, Slavic type! No objection to interruption.

    b. Eastern worker Galina Gorew and Lithuanian Genofefa Kuljalyte did not appear. The letters of 9 October 1944 had not arrived yet after telephone conversation with mayors. In future information must be mailed at least two weeks in advance.



    V. Health Office - Worms on 18 October 1944 at 0800 hours


    1. Interruption of pregnancy -

    a. White-Ruthenian woman Maria Bartoschenitsch, W.o. (Va?) 4d B II-RuS IV(F?), Begetter: N.ob. 5 c/d B I RuS III, no objection to interruption.


    2. Marriages -

    a. Fleming van Poucke-Magdalena Brunner, P. was N.o.w. 5 c A III-RuS II; B. was N.f. 5 c A III-RuS II.

    b. van der Mey-Golin, v.d.M. was N.d. 6 b A II-RuS I, according to pictures family is also RuS II

    c. Romanian German Franz Hans-Louise Schweizer, H. is N.ob. d.o 5 c/d B I - RuS III, Sch. N.d. 5 c A III-RuS II. According to picture of the family.
    [handwritten] Consultation!

    H. does not fit in at all. 2 brothers are with the Waffen SS. The brother Georg for instance is N.f.d. 5 c A III-II and the brother Josef N.? - 7? b A II-RuS I.

    d. Rysdyk. Spindler, the fiancé is sailor and always at sea, Sp. is F.ob. 5 c A III-RuS II.


    3. Marriages of foreigners -

    a. Stateless former Greek Wladimir Karpi-Elisabeth Westerweiler, K. is F.ow. 5 c A III-RuS II, Father according to picture F ? - RuS II and mother N ? - RuS II; W.-N.d. RuS II.


    4. Re-Germanization -

    a. White-Ruthenian Alexander Dolbilow with wife Nina and child Leo, D. is N.D.ob.f. 5 c A III-RuS II, gives a quiet balanced impression, bearing good. Honest. Wants to join the Waffen SS. (Report to Recruiting Office!) He worked with the German army all through the eastern campaign. Wife Nina nee Korenkowa, N.ob. 6 'c A III-Rus II, very honest straightforward character, very clean, generally valuable, would very much like to be re-Germanized! Son Leo N.D.o.w.? 5 c A III-RuS II, alert, clever child, honest! Entire family good.
    [Marginal note, handwritten] Recruiting Office

    b. Vera Marsurkewitsch has not appeared for a second time! Apparently is not interested in re-Germanization pro cedure, because according to statements made by the family Dolibow M. said that she would return to Russia at the end of the war. Decision to be reached by RuS Leader!
    [Marginal note, handwritten] File.

    c. Alois Przybyl, did not appear! (Second time.)

    d. Josef Polak did not appear for a third time!

    e. Marta Gruenwald did not appear!


    5. German People's List. Naturalizations-

    a. Agnes Korab did not appear for a second time!

    b. Sigmund Wawrzak did not appear for the 4th time! Air raid!
    VI. Health Office - Speyer on 18 October 1944 at 1600 hours
    Could not be visited because of constant air raids and communication disturbances. Telephone connections not possible.



    VII. Health Office - Neustadt on 19 October 1944 at 1000 hours


    1. Marriages of foreigners -

    a. Stateless former American citizen and former Reich German Helena Jacque, D.n.w. (f?) 5 c A III-RuS II. Parents and grandparents are and/or were Reich Germans. Father took out American citizenship papers in order to keep his position in the States. Mance killed in Italy with the rank of sergeant on 26 January 1944. According to picture: Father N.d. RuS I-II, mother: D.n.w. II. Mother's sister D.n.-II. Interruption of the examination because of constant air raid.



    VIII. Gestapo branch office - Neustadt on 19 and 20 October 1944


    1. Special treatment -

    a. Stanislaus Adanczyk, N.o.ob, 4 c/d B I-RuS III, missing documents will be sent later.

    b. Kasimir Twordo, N.o.ob. 4 c/d B I-RuS III. German partner Irene Enders, N.d.o. 5 c A III-RuS II.

    c. Edward Wolkanin, F.ob.n? 5 c A III-RuS II, honest, alert, clean appearance.


    2. Interruption of pregnancy -

    a. Polish woman Katja Susak, Wo.o. 4 D B II-IV and begetter N.o.ob. 5 c A III-II, no objection to interruption.


    3. Children of Eastern workers -

    a. Ukrainian Maria Horodeczna, did not appear, already released from imprisonment, is to appear again before the Gestapo-Neustadt.


    4. Marriage of foreigners -

    a. French Loisel-Thiery, did not appear. To be asked again to appear!



    IX. Mayor's Office - Bruchmuehlbach on 21 October 1944


    1. Interruption of pregnancy -

    a. Polish woman Blaszyak - Frenchman Meunier, B. is F.o.ob.n? 5 c A III-RuS II; M. is D.w.n. 5 c A III RuS II. For the time being I have opposed interruption of pregnancy. B. has a generally good honest character, clean. M. is married in France and has two children but wants to have a divorce from his wife, because he allegedly cannot live with her anymore. He is now a civilian worker. Otherwise, honest, straightforward character.


    2. Children of Eastern workers -

    a. Polish woman Maria Perembska-Frenchman Julien Dantu, P. is N.Ob. 4 c/d B I RuS III, D is D.Ob.n. 4 c/d B I - RuS III. Of no interest



    [Signed] RATZEBURG
    SS Sergeant


    Source: http://www.mazal.org/archive/nmt/04a/NMT04-C001.htm
    Pages: 780-783

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    Re: SS Racial Card

    Es wurden folgende vier rassische Wertungsgruppen unterschieden:

    I. Rein nordisch und rein fälisch, erbgesundheitlich und leistungsfähig erstklassig.

    II. Vorwiegend nordisch und fälisch mit harmonischem Einschlage von dinarisch und westisch, ferner ausgeglichene Mischlinge von nordisch-fälisch mit dinarisch und westisch; ferner Dinarier, soweit sie nicht dem Gesamtrassenbilde des deutschen Volkes zu fremd erscheinen (untere Grenze 5c A III).

    III. Weniger ausgeglichene Mischlinge mit überwiegend dinarischem oder westischem Anteile und mit merklichen ostischen oder ostbaltischen Merkmalen (untere Grenze c-d BI).

    IV. Unausgeglichene Mischlinge, rein ostisch, rein ostbaltisch, ferner Personen mit aussereuropäischem Einschlag, Fremdblütige (vorderasiatisch, orientalisch, negroid, mongolid), ausserdem erscheinungsbildlich schwer Erbkranke.
    The following four racial groups of valuations were differentiated:

    I. Pure Nordic and pure Faelish (type), hereditary health and efficiently first-class.

    II. Predominantly Nordic and Faelish with harmonious impact of Dinaric and Meditteranean (westisch), furthermore balanced half-breeds of Nordic-Faelish with Dinaric and Meditteranean types; furthermore Dinaric, as far as they do not appear too strange to the total race picture of the German people (lower limit 5c A III).>[see post bellow!]

    III. Less balanced half-breeds with predominantly Dinaric or Meditteranean (racial) dues and with noticeable Alpine or East Baltic characteristics (lower border CD BI).

    IV. Unbalanced half-breeds, pure Alpine, pure East Baltic, furthermore persons with non-European impact, Foreign types (Hither-Asiatic, Oriental, Negroid, Mongoloid), in addition (featuring) heavily hereditary patient.
    The translation is good from my standpoint. For the racial types I'd add the terminology I usually use:
    Nordisch = Skandonordid (+ostnordid)
    Fälisch = Dalofaelid (Cromagnid)
    Dinarisch = Dinarid (Adriatid)
    Westisch = (West-/Gracil-) Mediterranid
    Ostisch = (West- and East-) Alpinid
    Ostbaltisch = Osteuropid (Ostbaltid-Baltid)
    Vorderasiatisch = Armenid
    Orientalisch = Orientalid (Arabid)

    Erbkrankheit = hereditary disease

    I think it was right to consider how harmonious the mixture is and to select primarily for progressive and related (artverwandt) types though some judgements were probably too strict, invasive and wouldnt be necessary neither if using modern methods nor if looking at the racial variation more lenient. But it would be interesting to see how the practise finally was in detail too, I'd assume that individual decisions could have been in similar cases quite different...some comments seem to be quite subjective.

    To speak about the quality of the sources is another matter.
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    Re: SS Racial Card

    I am a visual person, so sometimes reading things doesn't make much sense to me. Also, I don't read German, so that is a detriment at times. Would it be possible for someone (Willigut, Agrippa, etc.) to take a modern day individual as an example, post the pic, and then show how this typing was done with the charts above?
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    Re: SS Racial Card

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer
    I am a visual person, so sometimes reading things doesn't make much sense to me. Also, I don't read German, so that is a detriment at times. Would it be possible for someone (Willigut, Agrippa, etc.) to take a modern day individual as an example, post the pic, and then show how this typing was done with the charts above?
    Well, there are indices (for example Length-Breadth-Index/LBI) as you know and charts (for skin, eye and hair color, f.e. from Fischer). After that such things could be determined quite exactly (and, at least without mistakes done while measuring) and objective. Some of the methods or similar methods are still in use to determine basic (individual and group) differences. So its the usual anthropometric and general anthropological survey like it was done in similar ways by many anthropologists and physicians.

    For the basic racial types there was this good thread of Zyklop with the awarded pictures, probably some of them are in other threads too or could be reposted:
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    Re: SS Racial Card

    Agrippa, question: Is this the entrance evaluation for SS candidates?

    Also, in the last section of your original post you use the word Nordid. I think McCulloch coined this word. If this is true, it doesn't mean Nordisch does it? Wouldn't "Nordisch" simply be Nordic?

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    Re: SS Racial Card

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff
    Agrippa, question: Is this the entrance evaluation for SS candidates?

    Also, in the last section of your original post you use the word Nordid. I think McCulloch coined this word. If this is true, it doesn't mean Nordisch does it? Wouldn't "Nordisch" simply be Nordic?
    English Nordic or Nordid (they mean the same) is Nordisch or Nordid in German (they also mean the same).

    There is no German word for Nordish, as it has only recently been coined by an American. The best translation would probably be Nordeuropäisch.
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    Re: SS Racial Card

    Quote Originally Posted by Tryggvi
    English Nordic or Nordid (they mean the same) is Nordisch or Nordid in German (they also mean the same).

    There is no German word for Nordish, as it has only recently been coined by an American. The best translation would probably be Nordeuropäisch.

    That's my point, I don't think Nordic and Nordid mean the same thing. McCulloch, whom I must admit I have only read once, uses Nordid to mean any descendant of Bruenn, Borreby types. There seems some confusion on Ladagon, if it is a primary Nordid or not. Secondary, (reduced) Nordids would be Alpines, East Baltics. For Nordics, McCulloch seems to fall back on Coon (which he does anyway), going with some sort of Corded (which may be a reduced Bruenn) and Danubian (which Coon sees as Med.) mixture. This would make Nordics, at best, secondary Nordids.

    If the word "Nordid" is McCulloch's, and he coined the word and the concept, how can it be back-engineered it to the 3rd Reich?

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    Re: SS Racial Card

    Nordid is the correct term, Nordic can be used for the geographical, political and ethnic designations too.

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