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    Women & Politics

    What is your opinion on women in the political spectrum? Do you believe women should run for elective office? Should they have the vote? What do you think of various female politicians e.g. Margaret Thatcher, Angela Merkel, Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin etc....

    I think women should not have the vote. Without the vote they wouldn't be involved in politics - except perhaps as advocates for particular policies, but certainly not as elected politicians. In practice giving women the vote has resulted in the adoption of pro-Feminist policies, policies that promote a Feminist superiority agenda, one that is not as concerned about equality but on obtaining power & privilege for those women who toll the Feminist agenda, an agenda that is anti-male, anti-family, anti-child & anti-woman. Feminists (a term I find to be an oxymoron) have strived for 1/2 a century to turn men & women into some kind of unnatural androgynous creatures, ignoring the realities of differences between the sexes. Giving women the vote has feminized the political process, one result being that we are (expected to be) compassionate, resulting in civil & human rights & laws & other legislation to pmake all aspects of life fair. Without the vote women could return to being women & men would start behaving like men & maybe they would start resisting the multicultural agenda that is destroying the West.

    As for the women politicians I listed, I view all of them as queen bees - they are personally ambitious, spout feminist ideology, but in reality view most women as a voting block that belongs to them as the woman candidate, a constituency not capable of independent thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ćmeric View Post
    As for the women politicians I listed, I view all of them as queen bees - they are personally ambitious, spout feminist ideology, but in reality view most women as a voting block that belongs to them as the woman candidate, a constituency not capable of independent thought.
    I'd have to say I hold the same belief for the most part. The examples you cited certainly do hold true to the Matriarchal 'Gynocrat' image. Though I respect them in certain ways, I have come to believe that women are not meant for politics. On the other hand these women are not in the same league as, say, Elizabeth, who I feel was an exception to the rule.

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    I think that giving the vote to individuals of any sort is a bad idea because it accentuates the atomization of society. If you're going to have some sort of democratic system, I would rather see each household get one vote.
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    Wait what? Women shouldn't vote because some of them are feminists?

    My wife hates feminists, she hates the dissolution of gender roles they've brought about. And so do I.

    You do realize not all women are feminists and most women who have families and children despise feminists. Just because a vocal minority got the better of the silent majority doesn't mean all of them shouldn't vote.

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    If your going to have a democratic system then everybody needs to vote, women and men complement eachother any system based on just one is bound not to work. What you have at the moment is that very few women go into politics but the ones that do are those that are good at it, I disagree with Deary on the fact that men have a better grasp of important facts, i.e science if you look at the current university students you will notice that there has been a huge reduction in the gap between numbers in almost all subjects. There is no way that I would put up with not having a say in my and my childrens future, I do not agree with the raving feminists but I would be out there if someone tried to take the vote away.

    How I believe we should cope with a stupid electorate is not to remove the women but to have only certain classes of people allowed to vote rather like in the book "starship troopers" which is nothing like the film BTW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrymheim View Post
    How I believe we should cope with a stupid electorate is not to remove the women but to have only certain classes of people allowed to vote rather like in the book "starship troopers" which is nothing like the film BTW.
    I've toyed around with ideas like this quite a bit as well. I don't think it would be a bad idea for citizens to earn their vote by military or public service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    I've toyed around with ideas like this quite a bit as well. I don't think it would be a bad idea for citizens to earn their vote by military or public service.
    That would be exactly the thing that destroys my country more, most people here in public services and also in the army arent realy better then lets say a dockworker and i wouldnt say someone in the army or public services has more rights to vote or that they are smarter.

    I think making class difference's like that is asking for a civil war instead of making your country better.
    If christ is the answer then what is the question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ćmeric View Post
    Do you believe women should run for elective office?
    No, they should not.


    Should they have the vote?
    No.

    But, then again, I'm not really convinced that 'democracy' is the most appropriate system of government for Nordish humankind in our present predicament anyhow.


    What do you think of various female politicians e.g. Margaret Thatcher, Angela Merkel, Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin etc....
    All of them are abominations of history, and a total embarrassment to the memory of genuine Western civilization.



    Quote Originally Posted by Thrymheim View Post
    If your going to have a democratic system then everybody needs to vote, women and men complement eachother any system based on just one is bound not to work.
    Lol, this has GOT to be a joke. How can you seriously try to argue that any system which doesn't enforce universal suffrage across the sexes is destined to fail? If you are serious, then clearly you must not be a very diligent student of history.

    "Democracy" itself has never really even been practiced the way it is today, with age being the only requirement to gain the ability to vote. Democracies in classical times succeeded while only having a small minority participating in the voting process -- not only were women excluded, slaves and others were also denied voting privileges as well; how were these systems 'failures'? Realistically, they were far more effective in controlling the domestic political situation when compared with our modern democracy. The early US republic was much more comparable to these older classical models than with the current one. Would you consider this early period in US history to be a political 'failure' too?


    What you have at the moment is that very few women go into politics but the ones that do are those that are good at it, I disagree with Deary on the fact that men have a better grasp of important facts, i.e science if you look at the current university students you will notice that there has been a huge reduction in the gap between numbers in almost all subjects.
    So what? What does this prove? These figures don't prove anything about the true 'grasp' of the important concepts; likewise, they certainly don't reveal anything about the underlying abilities of the students themselves. I'm quite familiar with what goes on in contemporary academia, so I can say with some confidence that most of what goes on is laughable anyhow. Just because someone has made it to a University doesn't mean that they are necessarily as capable or fit for a certain type of endeavor.

    IMO, the current University situation says much more about contemporary prejudices in our culture than it does about real innate ability.

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    I find misogyny to be more destructive than most forms of feminism.

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