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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    They aren't really extinct... I see them swarming all over the place here.
    Then it´s time to make their prophecy true...just for them.

    Seriously, aren´t the Mestizos of the USA not just a mix of several tribes (not only former Mayas), plus some more or less Spaniard contributions?

    "Judge of your natural character by what you do in your dreams" - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thusnelda View Post
    Then it´s time to make their prophecy true...just for them.

    Seriously, aren´t the Mestizos of the USA not just a mix of several tribes (not only former Mayas), plus some more or less Spaniard contributions?
    The Mestizos are a mix of various tribes, negroes and euro blood, the pure Mayans died out hundreds of years ago.

    Most studies have shown a European contribution of somewhere between 40-60% and an Amerindian contribution of 40-60%, and an African contribution of 1-5%. Basing an average from admixture levels found in many studies, the European contribution is ~50% and the Amerindian contribution is ~50% in a dual (European-Amerindian) model. A triracial (European-Amerindian-African) model yields an African contribution of ~2.5%, with average European and Amerindian contributions a small amount lower than 50% each.

    According to a paper presented by the American Society of Human Genetics Mexicans were found to be 58.96% European, 36.05% "Asian" (Amerindian), and 5.03% African. Sonora shows the highest European contribution (70.63%) and Guerrero the lowest (51.98%). In Guerrero one also observes the highest Asian contribution (37.17%). African contribution ranges from 2.8% in Sonora to 11.13% in Veracruz. 80% of the Mexican population was classed as mestizo (meaning being racially mixed in some degree).

    Another study, one focusing on the general population in five Latin American nations — Colombia, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Mexico, and Puerto Rico, — estimated that about half (50.1%) of Mexican ancestry was of Amerindian origin; 44.3%, European; and 5.6%, African. Compared to the other Latin American countries, Mexico was found to have the smallest amount of African admixture and the second largest amount of Amerindian ancestry, topped by Ecuador.

    A paper specifically focusing on Mexican mestizos, has found them to be mostly Amerindian (55.2%) but also having a large amount of European admixture (41.8%). African ancestry was found to be 1.8% and East Asian ancestry, 1.2%. The samples were drawn from six Mexican cities: Sonora and Zacatecas (ZAC) in the north, Guanajuato in the center, Guerrero in the center–Pacific, Veracruz in the center–Gulf, and Yucatan in the southeast. As to reginal differences, it was found that Guerrero had the largest degree of both Amerindian and African admixture (66% and 4.1% respectively), and Sonora, the largest degree of European ancestry (61.6%).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thusnelda View Post
    Then it´s time to make their prophecy true...just for them.

    Seriously, aren´t the Mestizos of the USA not just a mix of several tribes (not only former Mayas), plus some more or less Spaniard contributions?
    The Mayans lived mainly in what is now Guatemale & the Yucatan & Chiapas regions of Mexico;


    This region is still very heavily Amerindian.

    The majority of Mexicans (Mestizos & Amerindians) are descended from Nahautl (Uto-Aztecans) & Zapotecs who lived lived in the fertile volcanic highlands of central & southcentral Mexico, west & northwest of the Tehuantepec Isthmus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by medievalfaun View Post
    I think that "end-of-the-world" prophecies will continue to freak people out for as long as humans exist. I recall that in 1999 a lot of people seriously bought into the fact that Nostradamus supposedly predicted that the world would end in 2000. And just this year some fundamental Christian lunatic predicted that the world would end in October. Neither of those things happened and I'm sure that in 10 or so years there will be a new "end-of-the-world" scenario for us to contemplate.

    Besides, I don't know much about the Mayan 2012 thing but I'm not totally sure that it's supposed to be a "world ending" event... more like a "world changing" event. But "world ending" is more exciting
    I don't know if I believe an apocalypse is in the works for 2012, but perhaps it's what the world needs. As odd as it may sound to some folks, there is a part of me that secretly hopes it comes to pass. Maybe there will be a small number of survivors that can set things right in the aftermath.

    Whatever happens (or doesn't) next year, people will continue to find any number or variation of cataclysm scenarios to doomsay about.

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    My Prophesy for 2012 is that the ruling Elite, call them Illuminati if you wish, I call them Jews, they have been pushing this 2012 end of the world Mayan calender business down our throats so that people are now expecting something to happen, something written in the stars that is beyond the control of man.

    Whereas in reality, if something does happen, and I believe it will, it wont be destiny or some such mambo-jumbo, it will be the usual suspects up to more of their false flag events, except this time, instead of blaming Muslims, they will spread their palms and say, "no, its wasn't us that started world war 3, collapsed the worlds economy, released a man-made deadly flu, etc, etc, it was written in the stars".

    As lucky for them as the holohoax, the result of world wide disorder in 2012 will be the opportunity to implement their global dictatorship, their "New World Order" as the only hope for mankind.



    Then, the pre-written prophesies will start to occur, namely the book of Revelation which foretells such a global government, and that it would be ruled from Jerusalem, and that God would only allow it to remain for 42 months.

    You then have Jesus reign for 1000 years so I dont think the worlds going to end next year, though it probably will seem that way to a lot of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thusnelda View Post
    Then it´s time to make their prophecy true...just for them.

    Seriously, aren´t the Mestizos of the USA not just a mix of several tribes (not only former Mayas), plus some more or less Spaniard contributions?
    Where I live in the US there's both kinds, the Mestizos will look anything from almost white and European, to very dark and almost no European influence.

    But there are full blood Amerind from Mexico here to and there's no mistaking them.

    I spent a year in rural Mexico back in the 1990's and what struck me about the place was how the full bloods and Mestizos don't get along.

    I was up in the mountains in central Mexico in this one place and all the Indians lived in one town and all the Mexicans in another, only they where right next to each other, separated by a small stream.

    To me it looked like one town with a stream running through it, but each town had it's own name and separate government.

    You could throw a rock from one town to the other but these people basically didn't have anything to do with the other. The all wore different types of clothes too.

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    12/21/2012 - What's Your Stance?

    So, as far back as I can remember 2012 has always been debated upon. I'm pretty indifferent and I think probably nothing will happen.
    What is your take on it? I'm interested in hearing everyone's ideas
    PS~ If you like these silly shows, you might find this interesting:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCISb...eature=related

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    I think its bullsh*t. No need to get into detail since I've made previous posts as to why I think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atali View Post
    Ok I'm a bit tired and got a little dyslexic on the title lol
    So, as far back as I can remember 2012 has always been debated upon. I'm pretty indifferent and I think probably nothing will happen.
    What is your take on it? I'm interested in hearing everyone's ideas
    PS~ If you like these silly shows, you might find this interesting:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCISb...eature=related
    I don't think the world is going to be frozen over any time soon. So, until then I'm not going to worry about it.

    From another perspective, this is all based on the Mayan calender. Calenders don't just go on and on forever, there has to be stopping point.

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    I agree with Olav. My 2011 Calendar stopped at December 31st. World didn't end. No transcendence to another plane of existence. I just need to go out and get a new calendar.

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