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    Norway: More Dads Stay Home with Small Babies

    More dads stay home with small babies


    Six out of ten fathers stay home with their children for more than six weeks. This is twice as many as in 1999.

    Working parents are entitled to leave for up to a year with 80 percent pay, to look after their newborn children.

    In theory, only the first few weeks are specifically reserved for the mother. In practice, mothers have tended to stay home through most of the the child's first year. Increasing numbers of fathers are however taking care of small babies for longer, according to news bureau NTB.

    To boost the numbers who take paternity leave, one month of the year's quota has been reserved for fathers.

    The recent figures show that more men are staying home for longer. This is considered good for creating closer bonds between fathers and their children. If men are increasingly likely to take paternity leave, this may ultimately strengthen women job applicants' opportunities in the labour market.

    Equality commissioner, Beate Gangås still thinks progress is too slow. "At this rate it will take more than three generations before a majority of fathers stay home with their children for more than eight weeks."

    http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...cle2578162.ece


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    I don't see anything wrong with the father staying home if thats what him and his wife have worked out. Its good for them to want to be home, that beats a dead beat dad any day.
    "We've become a nation of strangers. There seems to be very little in common to bond us to our fellow Americans outside of our immediate families,some don't even have that to fall back on."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagna View Post
    More dads stay home with small babies


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    In theory, only the first few weeks are specifically reserved for the mother. In practice, mothers have tended to stay home through most of the the child's first year. Increasing numbers of fathers are however taking care of small babies for longer, according to news bureau NTB.
    Question: Do they stay home together, or do the women tend to work while the father is taking care of the small babies?


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    The recent figures show that more men are staying home for longer. This is considered good for creating closer bonds between fathers and their children.
    Close bonds between fathers and children are good, IMO; however, it is vital that the children receive the best possible economic support in these early developing years. It might have negative consequences because men tend to significantly outearn women, at least here in the US (the 'pay gap' is widest between Nordish men/women).

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    I oppose paternity leave for fathers. Unless the health of the child or the mother is threatened, the father should return to productive work outside of the home as soon as possible following the birth.

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    I was watching that show last night where the nanny comes in and tries to help the family. It was a husband and wife and their 3 children. 2 sons and one daughter. The husband worked ( or so he said ) all the time. The wife said he left at 5 am everyday and didn't come home until bed time. He was making no time for his family, and she was a stay at home mom, literally left to do it all alone. The father didn't even know how to act at home, he said he felt un-comfortable and everything. : The wife was in tears over missing her husband, needing his loves, attention, and help with the children. I felt so sorry for her and couldn't help but wonder how could they be so blind? A family must work together, no matter what. Sure, single women do it alone every day, but to be married and doing it alone is unacceptable in my eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Lyfing View Post
    Sure, single women do it alone every day, but to be married and doing it alone is unacceptable in my eyes.
    Actually, I think the current record will show that most 'single mothers' (that's what I assume you meant by 'single women') are far from ideal parents. The children from 'single father' households are comparatively more successful, probably because single fathers tend to be more financially accomplished. Still, I don't believe that the situation should be 'relativized' for SES -- if anything, it just shows the foolishness and irresponsibility for not being absolutely certain that there potential mate will stick by them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MockTurtle View Post
    Actually, I think the current record will show that most 'single mothers' (that's what I assume you meant by 'single women') are far from ideal parents.
    I hear what your saying, but, I really don't live my life by current records, not to imply you do, or that they are or are not ideal parents. Man, *hit happens in life. I can not sit here and say every single parent, man or women is a bad parent just because they are single. Of course it causes issues for the single parent and the child. It doesn't mean its tainted though. In my life I have found no matter what you may or may not experience in your childhood, teenager-ness, adult-ness is all about dealing with issues. Life is both beautiful and tragic no matter which path we take. So, the best thing to do is take the good and run with it.



    it just shows the foolishness and irresponsibility for not being absolutely certain that there potential mate will stick by them.
    Do you realize what you just said? What in life is certain? Almost nothing. You can not look down and say " irresponsible " again, *hit happens. Sometimes, things don't work out, people die, people change their mind, people fall out of love, people learn their partner is not who they thought they were, people make mistakes, its all in nature really. I must say though, the ones that stick together, families that is, hell yeah, there is nothing better. If you read what I was really saying in that post is how important togetherness is.
    "We've become a nation of strangers. There seems to be very little in common to bond us to our fellow Americans outside of our immediate families,some don't even have that to fall back on."

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneEnglishNorman View Post
    I oppose paternity leave for fathers. Unless the health of the child or the mother is threatened, the father should return to productive work outside of the home as soon as possible following the birth.
    I feel it's equally important for the father to bond with his newborn. Also helping his wife recover especially if she needed surgery. If financially you have to return to work asap then maybe one should think twice about having children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Lyfing View Post
    Life is both beautiful and tragic no matter which path we take. So, the best thing to do is take the good and run with it.
    All very true, but I was really just trying to bring to light a typically obscured fact that many people don't know about. It's important, after all, to realize that there are plenty of males who struggle daily to provide for the children that they have taken primary custody over, for all sorts of different reasons.


    Do you realize what you just said? What in life is certain? Almost nothing. You can not look down and say " irresponsible " again, *hit happens. Sometimes, things don't work out, people die, people change their mind, people fall out of love, people learn their partner is not who they thought they were, people make mistakes, its all in nature really.
    Lol, I'm not going to believe for a second that most single parent homes are created by happenstance or excusable acts of poor judgment; the majority of them are created for just the reason I pointed out, irresponsibility. Part of being responsible is using foresight and being as certain as possible that one's potential mate is compatible for commitment/reproduction. If you aren't sufficiently certain, then the situation shouldn't reach that stage. Yes, there are some things that we can't control, but if people took full advantage of those things that we do have control over the percentage of 'broken families' would decrease dramatically.

    In the older culture of the West, for example, people used better foresight and judgment when selecting a mate; they didn't 'play around', and therefore the number of single parent families was substantially lower.


    I must say though, the ones that stick together, families that is, hell yeah, there is nothing better. If you read what I was really saying in that post is how important togetherness is.
    Oh, I understand what you meant by that; but there are other sides to the situation, as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Lyfing View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with the father staying home if thats what him and his wife have worked out.
    Not he and his wife, only he.

    Quote Originally Posted by MockTurtle View Post
    It might have negative consequences because men tend to significantly outearn women, at least here in the US (the 'pay gap' is widest between Nordish men/women).
    It is similar in Germany, but on what do you base the Nordish part?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Lyfing View Post
    Sure, single women do it alone every day..
    And suck at it most of the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Lyfing View Post
    ... but to be married and doing it alone is unacceptable in my eyes.
    I agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Lyfing View Post
    Do you realize what you just said? What in life is certain?
    I bet he does, that something can happen along the way, does not mean you shouldn't be certain about your partner.

    And so far the state only encourages such disloyal behavior.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalRose View Post
    If financially you have to return to work asap then maybe one should think twice about having children.
    Too late then, one should think twice before engaging with a man who can't provide for the family.
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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