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    My friend and I were discussing what race Napoleon may have been. I know all we have is paintings and no photos, but based on the above picture what would you guys say?
    (I think alpine/med)

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    Arthur Kemp says that Napoleon was Nordic, which I find very hard to believe. He was Corsican, and actually of Italian descent. All contemporary paintings show him with very dark hair. His skin seems moderately light, but not as light as a Nordic. I would say he is predominantly Mediterranean, but the very short stature and curious round head do suggest some kind of Alpine, perhaps?

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    Does he give any reasons as to why he put napolean as a Nordic? ( And I agree being corisican kinda makes you a med. ) I thought based upon that painting (and some others on the same site) Nordic-Alpine, as some other paintings show lighter skin.

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    I see some either nordic or med facial elements, but he doesn't exactly seem quite dark enough to be med, so I would say alpine/nordic mix.

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    Napoleon Nordic? That is the first time I heard this, I am no expert, so please tell me what is Nordic in him?

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    The fact that he was born in Corsica, does not prove that he was non-Nordic. Napoleon's other distinguished countryman, General Paoli, was tall, fair-complexioned, blond-haired and blue-eyed. Napoleon was considered to be predominantly Nordic by anthropologists such as Günther. Baron de Méneval said Napoleon had:

    "piercing grey eyes, a straight nose and fine chesnut hair..."

    D. Seward Napoleon and Hitler (1996) p. 89.

    In addition to this, Napoleon's complexion was described as being "marble-white." As far as his skull is concerned, Woltmann examined Naploeon's death mask and funerary bust, and determined that although his head was small, it was still dolichocephalic to mesocephalic, and not of Alpine, brachycephalic type. This reveals the problems of relying solely on paintings.

    If you want to get into geneological discussions, then it should be observed that several members of his family were tall. I would also note that he was of Germanic-Lombardic ancestry, as Woltmann observes:

    "Besonders interessant ist die Herkunft der Familie Napoleons. Nach den Forschungen Passerinis stammte die korsische Familie von den Bonaparte in Florenz, deren Vorfahren die berühmten Cadolingi, Grafen von Pistoja, waren. Ihr Stammvater ist Guglielmo, genannt Bonaparte, ein Sohn Gianfaldos, der 1260 Ratsherr in Florenz war. 1529 siedelte ein Francesco di Giovanni Bonaparte nach Ajaccio über, von dem die Familie Napoleons abstammte. Die Grafen Cadolingi waren langobardischen Ursprungs. Cadolingi = dsch. Kadeling. Gianfaldo ist zusammengesetzt aus Giano (= Giovanni) und ahd. Faldo; Bonaparte ist eine abgeänderte Form des langobardischen Bonipert."

    Ludwig Woltmann Die Germanen in Frankreich (1907) p. 86.

    Napoleon was fair-haired until his thirties, when his hair turned chestnut brown (not black), as noted above. He was not particularly tall. He seems perhaps to have had an admixture of another type, not clearly discernable. For that reason, he was predominantly, but not purely Nordic.



    Note his facial features and hair colour, in this portrait of him, dated 1796.

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    Very pretty hair color.

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    Well the paintings are total different, And I dont really give a fuck what he was- my intuition tells me his a good example of a Sub-Nordic type.

    Very pretty hair color.
    You been hanging out to much in America or something?:ultrawink

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    Originally posted by HELLSTAR
    Well the paintings are total different, And I dont really give a fuck what he was- my intuition tells me his a good example of a Sub-Nordic type.


    You been hanging out to much in America or something?:ultrawink
    No I really like strawberry blond. It's my favorite hair color besides blond :really?

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    I thought his hair was light brown?

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