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    Holland vs. Deutschland

    I went in Germany, in Aachen,where I had a host family, and my host mother told me that German people are not agreeable with Holland people, and vice-versa. The fact is that we had a trip in Holland, and I got lost in Maastricht with a firend. I asked for help, in German, English language, and they said "we are tourist", or they spoke French to us. So no one helped us, until we found a hospital, and an assistant helped us.
    I can not belive that all those, whom we asked, could not speak German or English, cause the city is near to Aachen(Germany), I think it is 30 km far.
    So I just want to know, if my host mother from Germany was right.
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    There's a girl whom I know in Haarlem and she told me the same. Though we are good friends for a long period now she is mocking me sometimes (with jokes).:p
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    First of all it is the Netherlands and not Holland. Just like Germany isn't Prussia for example. and secondly I have heard about it and there are still among some/many here that don't think high about Germans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GroeneWolf View Post
    and secondly I have heard about it and there are still among some/many here that don't think high about Germans.
    And the main reason for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrodnand View Post
    And the main reason for that?
    My own theory about it thatbhas to do with WOII.

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    The people over here (Gelderland) don't seem to have a problem with Germans AFAIK.

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    It also depends which area in Netherlands you are.

    In the borderregions, where I live myself, people are more seeing Germans as neighbours, also a significant numbers of Dutch moved to German towns across the border. Secondly, the eastern Dutch dialects are related to the German dialects.

    People in the west of Netherlands usually are not well informed. In the East, many locals are negative about our western countrymen, due the fact of their ignorance. Not without reason we say that Netherlands start at Amersfoorteyes:

    If you where in my region, Andrea, you would be answered either in German or English. Most be due the fact that we are Saxons, not Franconians

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    Quote Originally Posted by GroeneWolf View Post
    First of all it is the Netherlands and not Holland. Just like Germany isn't Prussia for example.
    What about your national football team, is it from Holland? In the stadium I can hear you orange guys scream "Holland, Holland, Holland" ?

    The Nether Germans in the Netherlands have the same inferior complex as every neighbor of Germany, they always seem to think we would look down on them etc.
    The Swiss are especially touchy about this
    I once told a guy from the Netherlands that they are Germans, and that it used to be this way for a long time, he didn't take it well, then again I didn't expect him to do so
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GroeneWolf View Post
    First of all it is the Netherlands and not Holland. Just like Germany isn't Prussia for example. and secondly I have heard about it and there are still among some/many here that don't think high about Germans.
    Have I insulted you somehow, cause I wrote Holland instead of Netherland? It was not my intetion. Sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrea View Post
    Have I insulted you somehow, cause I wrote Holland instead of Netherland? It was not my intetion. Sorry
    No, but I only get tired that my coutry is mostly callled afther one of it's provinces. One of the more wealthier ones and the like. Depending on where from the country one comes some locals do not realy like being called Hollanders. For me iot is more a point of principle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    What about your national football team, is it from Holland? In the stadium I can hear you orange guys scream "Holland, Holland, Holland" ?
    Just repeat a song with that a refrain long enough and the masses will sing/scream it. Call it making them used to it. Now the team, in theory it is selected from local teams from al over the country.

    I once told a guy from the Netherlands that they are Germans, and that it used to be this way for a long time, he didn't take it well, then again I didn't expect him to do so
    Not anymore since we fell under the Spanish branch of the Hasburg dysnasty, if not longer. So we are also not Germans for a very long time .

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