View Poll Results: What level of Germanic pride do you require in a partner?

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  • He/she must be Germanic and be as interested in our culture as you are.

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  • He/she must be Germanic and have some minimal appreciation for our culture.

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  • As long as they're white and not listening to rap, it's OK.

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  • I don't worry about that at all when choosing partners.

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Thread: Is It Essential That Your Partner is Pro-Preservationist? / Is Your Significant Other a Germanic Nationalist?

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    Yes, it is essential to me that my partner shares the same passion for all things Germanic. Many of us grew up with the understanding that it's not "polite" to talk about politics or religion at the dinner table. However, when it comes to a long-term partnership, I believe that such topics can be of crucial importance. What's more, they can easily make or break a relationship. Partners are basically the closest people we have in this world aside from our blood relatives (in some cases even more so, since one cannot choose the latter) and the ones we spend most of our time with so it is only natural that we should be able to discuss literally anything with them. And while a healthy relationship requires a certain degree of compromise, diplomacy and tact, making certain topics entirely off-limits may prove to be counterproductive. Particularly if Germanic preservation is something more than just an abstract idea in one's life, if we cannot share that side of us with our partners, the persons we've chosen to share our life with, then something is incredibly wrong.

    Naturally, couples may at some point fall into the routine, day-to-day discussion of work, family and news, however they should always be able to talk about more serious topics - such as politics or religion - even if they are uncomfortable. Just because some people don't constantly talk about them does not mean that they don't take them seriously or that they don't play a major role in their lives. Nevermind that many other things are the result of one's political and/or religious beliefs: their goals in life, the way they organize their finances, the education they want to give to their children, their fears and concerns for the future, etc. For example topics like multiculturalism, immigration or interracial relationships are usually "hot" topics people feel strongly about (either for or against). Hence it is important to know how the other feels about them from the get-go, rather than have an unpleasant surprise some time down the line. What should happen if, for example, one of the couple's children receives an invitation to join an antifa organization? Telling them different things might not only be confusing for that child, but such disagreements could easily put a dent in the relationship. Before they know it, they become the proverbial elephant in the room, rarely mentioned but always present.

    Now of course certain things one can agree to disagree about, particularly when it comes to the smaller details. Not everybody wants an echo chamber in their partner, some people may enjoy debating the smaller details, something that is evident on this forum as well. Not everyone agrees on topics such as the death penalty or universal suffrage, for example, however despite those disagreements people are brought here together through their belief in Germanic preservation. When it comes to the partnership, it of course depends on how strongly each of the partners feels about such topics.

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    I'd imagine these days with all the propaganda on TV that most women are brainwashed to some degree. Not all though.

    If you get a woman intersted enough she will accept your views and you can then help her become racially aware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey View Post
    Neither of us is specifically a Germanic Nationalist, rather white nationalists (in the Old American sense of the term) who appreciate the Germanic (as well as the Celtic and Romance) aspects of our culture. We see it as part of a whole for us (For instance: we were raised speaking a Germanic language and reading its literature, dancing Celtic dances to Celtic music, and admiring French/Italian art).
    Your ancestry and culture appears to be essentially Germanic. Celtic or even older non-Germanic influences which in the past might have been absorbed from French, Scottish or even Germanic ancestors don't change much about this fact, as this also applies to Germanics like Germans, Englishman or Icelanders. E contrario, Slavic, Romance, Baltic and Celtic peoples similarly absorbed significant numbers of people who originally didn't belong to their meta-ethnic groups. Being Germanic is, assuming the person is Europid, primarily a linguistic, cultural and ethnic issue.

    This is best observed amongst the European aristocracy, many male members of which, repeatedly and often generation after generation, married aristocratic partners from other ethnic groups. Nonetheless, they never lost their Englishness, Germanness, Russianness, Frenchness, etc., because the children of such marriages were immediately integrated into the father's native culture and acquainted with its language, traditions, customs, manners, and morals. In this manner, they joined the ethnicity of the father and its people, and it would have never either crossed their mind or the people's mind that they would not be English, even if their mother would have been e.g. Spanish or Russian.

    These modern ideas of I'm "English/German/French/Dutch/Italian/Polish/Russian" are, plainly spoken, nonsene. One can have ancestors from these ethnicities, but one can ethnically only be either English or German or French or Russian, etc. One can be European, too, but that's either a geographical or a racial concept and not an ethnic one.

    American, on the other hand, can be an ethnic concept, too; referring to the ethnicity which arguably formed in America centuries ago by fusing Englishmen, Germans, Netherlanders, Scots, Scandinavians, as well as some Irishmen and Frenchmen into a new ethnicity; similar to how the ethnicity of Afrikaners or Boers came into existence in South Africa when Netherlanders and Germans, as well as some Frenchmen and Scandinavians have been fused into a new ethnicity. Both Americans and Afrikaners are clearly Germanic ethnicities, though.

    Lastly, whites (or Europids) are only a race. The whites many "white nationalists" mean are not even a race in an anthropological sense but are grouped together merely per social agreement (and, frequently, there is more disagreement than agreement amongst "white nationalists" who is "white"). There is no white ethnicity, but merely ethnicities which are (almost) exclusively of Europid racial origin. Consequently, the term "white nationalism" ist a bit misleading, since there can be no (cultural) nation without an ethnicity in the first place. An ethnicity turns into a (cultural) nation if its members are overwhelmingly affected by a feeling of togetherness and know about and want their unity. And "white nationalism" obviously can't refer to the concept of a state nation, because within the latter every citizen (regardless of race or ethnicity) belongs to this very state. The U.S. of today is a state nation. So, one should actually call it "white racialism" if anything. "American nationalism" (in the old sense of the term "American," as you suggested) would make much more sense, too.

    But with all due respect, if a Germanic mere likes or is fond of aspects of other nations and ethnicities, he doesn't become a part of them. I, for example, admire Russian literature, like the Greek cuisine, am fond of the French language and deeply respect some Italian composers. As a real man, I don't dance of course.



    But nothing of this changes a jota about my belonging to my ethnicity, or my or its culture, not more than drinking Turking coffee.
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    @Thorburn: I fully agree.



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    I think there has to be minimum a certain common line in politics,view of the world, callitwhatyouwant,... that this stuff is not sooner or later messing up a relationship (more or less).

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    ...Nonetheless, they never lost their Englishness, Germanness, Russianness, Frenchness, etc., because the children of such marriages were immediately integrated into the father's native culture...
    That's perfectly true, but the culture of Acadiana in which I was raised is a bit different. It's a strange combination of local French customs and the dominating Anglo-American ones. I am both an American in general and an Acadian in particular and both are important.

    ...These modern ideas of I'm "English/German/French/Dutch/Italian/Polish/Russian" are, plainly spoken, nonsene. One can have ancestors from these ethnicities, but one can ethnically only be either English or German or French or Russian, etc...
    I agree for the most part, and that's the reason a lot of my ancestry is omitted in my Ethnicity to the left. The largest chunk is actually German, though I was raised in the culture described above.

    ...American, on the other hand, can be an ethnic concept, too; referring to the ethnicity which arguably formed in America centuries ago by fusing Englishmen, Germans, Netherlanders, Scots, Scandinavians, as well as some Irishmen and Frenchmen into a new ethnicity; similar to how the ethnicity of Afrikaners or Boers came into existence in South Africa when Netherlanders and Germans, as well as some Frenchmen and Scandinavians have been fused into a new ethnicity. Both Americans and Afrikaners are clearly Germanic ethnicities, though...
    I agree completely, and I wish more people appreciated our heritage.

    ...And "white nationalism" obviously can't refer to the concept of a state nation, because within the latter every citizen (regardless of race or ethnicity) belongs to this very state. The U.S. of today is a state nation. So, one should actually call it "white racialism" if anything. "American nationalism" (in the old sense of the term "American," as you suggested) would make much more sense, too...
    I do like the term American Nationalism. It conveys better the traditionalist aspects of my beliefs.

    But with all due respect, if a Germanic mere likes or is fond of aspects of other nations and ethnicities, he doesn't become a part of them. I, for example, admire Russian literature, like the Greek cuisine, am fond of the French language and deeply respect some Italian composers. As a real man, I don't dance of course.
    It's not about liking other cultures. My French heritage is a combination of Germanic, Romance, and Celtic culture, and although the American aspect of it tips it in a more Germanic direction, I am not a perfect Germanic. It is a large part of who I am, though, and I do honor that.


    America itself is not solely Germanic (although that is the dominating aspect of our culture--which is a good thing). My French-speaking ancestors fought in the Revolution as well. Anyway, make no mistake that I am entirely in favor of Germanic preservation, but in the context of European preservation as a whole.

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    I worded my previous question in a way that was not conducive to the real question I'm trying to ask. So I'm gonna have another go at it.

    I find all of this very frustrating to explain, or even to discuss, so I'll make it plain: I've been dating a really great girl for about a year now. I can't be certain, but she seems pretty 'mainstream' in her worldview. I'm worried about her being upset if/when she learns about my beliefs. Someone with a 'mainstream' worldview would probably find me quite racist. What would you do in this situation?

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    You have been dating for a year, the subject of race and politics has not come up yet? Have you been avoiding the topic because you fear loosing her?

    Has she ever made any statements about how she feels about Germanic preservationism? That might be a good place start the topic and she how she feels. Take her to some Germanic cultural event of some kind to get a feeling about how she views such things.
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    With a new partner I would only reveal my views gradually, because they are so brainwashed (it is very entrenched) it is likely I would have to try and help her become racially aware. To say how I really feel on a first date would probably make them think that I am a hateful parochial person; to be honest if I went out with a girl who raved on about hating others on the first date I would probably find it a kind of turn off as it may indicate a lack of compassion. I would just gradually and rationally point out the reality of the situation of how Germanics are threatened with extinction.

    Cythraul your right in that effective preservationism requires quite intolerant views on race-mixing, because it is the GREATEST threat to our preservation. But to be honest I don’t think a prospective partner need share your views, as long as they don’t stop you from expressing them say to your children.

    Amorsite is right that in many multicultural countries it is already just hard enough to get a Germanic partner yet alone one who has the same views as us; remember they would have been indoctrinated at school, university, and the media. In all truth you may be the first person to introduce the idea of preservationism to them.

    The Frisian Doutzen Kroes is the greatest hypocrites for me saying save the Frisian language yet has a black boyfriend, does she really think that anyone will care about the Frisian language once true Frisians are all gone.

    Cythral you should be disappointed to see anyone of Germanic heritage with someone of another race (it does not mean you have to hate them) even if they don’t have kids, because they are lost from the gene pool and will see our numbers continue to fall (if every Germanic women went out and had a partner from another race and did not breed in about a hundred years time there would be no Germanics) another reason it is should be viewed as a disappointment is because they are condoning racial mixing in a way.
    The emotional barrier is going to get worse as more and more family members and close friends in today’s multicultural societies are engaging in interracial relationships. Everyone should tell their relatives and close friends the reality of the situation. A good friend of mine was in a interracial relationship and their partner even though he was of another race was rather affable, but on principle I never thought that they should be together and was relieved in way when they broke up.

    It is my opinion females play the greatest role in preservation, they are the ones who renew the population through birth and they are the ones who mainly raise and nurture the child helping determine their personality and ideology in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonCeorl View Post
    I worded my previous question in a way that was not conducive to the real question I'm trying to ask. So I'm gonna have another go at it.

    I find all of this very frustrating to explain, or even to discuss, so I'll make it plain: I've been dating a really great girl for about a year now. I can't be certain, but she seems pretty 'mainstream' in her worldview. I'm worried about her being upset if/when she learns about my beliefs. Someone with a 'mainstream' worldview would probably find me quite racist. What would you do in this situation?
    Gently nudge her in the right direction. Discuss things about the culture which she'll find fascinating and pique her interest (Many women seem to love at least some aspects of European mythology). Then point out specific incidents where certain people are damaging that cultural heritage, and eventually start showing the broader trends.

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    Since this significant other is mainstream thing pops up every now and then, it makes me curious: what do you guys talk about on dates with your girlfriends? How can it be that all this time a topic like race or culture never came up? Isn't is part of your daily lives? Maybe it's just me living near immigrant infested shitholes, but it always comes up sooner or later and I can't not comment on it.

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