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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrioten View Post
    But then why would you expect an American director to not paint a black and white picture of D-day, it's not the job of American directors to be fair and balanced towards their country's former enemies, they're out to make an entertaining movie where the film viewers can feel for their own, the good guys, and shove their fist in anger at those evil nazi Germans. Documentaries can sometimes attain a balance, movies seldom if ever do. If anything, it is unfortunate that Germans have to endure German-made movies taking place in that period, that show the Germans from the same allied perspective, and see their own people being ridiculed or portrayed as monsters. I think that's a bigger problem than Americans being unapologetically patriotic about their own war effort.
    I think it's just a general show of good class that when a country does battle with another, and the defeated side fought bravely, honorably and valiantly, you show respect for your opponent by not deliberately depicting them in a way that is well known to be out of step with history. I've seen American movies, like Dances with Wolves for example, where our former Native American enemies are shown as being a uniquely cultured people with a noble spirit despite also showing their primitive and savage ways. Spielberg claimed he did his research but the sloppy portrayal of the German army shows that he either lied, or ignored his research because it didn't fit his very Jewish perception of events. Germanic countries that produce WW2 era films have no freedom, so while it's disheartening to see their films reaffirm allied biases, I don't get too stirred up about it and I take comfort in knowing that most likely, if given total freedom, they would make films that showed the Germans as great men fighting for their country. Films like Der Untergang are a step in the right direction, though I don't believe for a second that Hitler said all the Germans should be killed or that they deserved to all die because they were not fit in a survival of the fittest sense.

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    Worst movie ever filmed

    Why does every discussion have to get mired in politics and World War II ?
    Believe it or not, there were really lousy movies dealing with neither of them.
    Generally agreed to be the worst is Ed Wood's science fiction bomb: "Plan Nine from Outer Space", a movie which is so bad that it has become a cult classic of its type.

    The cast includes such notables as Tor Johnson, Vampyra, and the redoubtable, but unfortunately moribund Bela Lugosi who died before filming was completed and was replaced by Ed Wood's dentist who bore no resemblance to Bela Lugosi.

    The acting, which is uniformly atrocious, looks and sounds more like 1939 than 1959. The sets and props are worthy of Captain Video. Believe it or not, the aliens' "flying saucer" is two aluminum pie plates fastened edge-to-edge ! The electronic apparatus in the aliens' starship is made up from 1920's radio parts.

    The plot, as nearly as I could make it out, is that space aliens, exasperated that they and their "flying saucers" are not taken seriously decide to prove that they are real by re-animating the dead in a cemetery ?! The "fact" that the re-animated dead cannot speak allowed Ed Wood to hire "actors" best not allowed to speak, such as Tor Johnson, an inarticulate lumbering hulk, and Woods' dentist, who didn't have to imitate Bela Lugosi's Hungarian accent.

    So, this is an incredibly bad movie which, surprise, surprise, has nothing to do with politics or WWII. [EGAD, how can it be ]

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    Troma films are soooooo jewish-minded and boring.

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    I have watched many terrible made-for-television movies on the SciFi channel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oski Von Skadi View Post
    Troma films are soooooo jewish-minded and boring.
    I didn't know what that was so I googled it and here are some movie titles from Troma Entertainment.

    Blood Sucking Freaks

    Redneck Zombies

    Surf Nazis Must Die

    Vegas In Space


    :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberwolf View Post
    Films like Der Untergang are a step in the right direction, though I don't believe for a second that Hitler said all the Germans should be killed or that they deserved to all die because they were not fit in a survival of the fittest sense.
    Actually that isn't what he said, not exactly; he didn't say that they should 'all be killed', he just said that he didn't care if they lose the conveniences provided by the facilities that were supposed to be destroyed in the 'Nero Decree'. Speer didn't want to go through with the plan because he felt that the consequences were too harsh on the remaining Germans; Hitler was trying to say that this was no reason to avoid the order. It's still a rather severe remark, but not quite the same as saying that they should all be killed.

    Anywho, a really terrible film I saw was "Pleasantville". It COMPLETELY distorts the reality of American cultural life before the 'counter movement' took over the country. For those who haven't seen it, the plot involves a brother and sister who get warped into a 'Leave it to Beaver' type television series; Initially they can't get out, so they have to try and adapt to the cultural environment of the series. They try to blend in with the family routines, neighborhood life, school schedules, and so forth. In practically every situation, the older American culture is mocked and ridiculed as being boring, overly simplistic, and even outright anti-intellectual.

    For instance, in school the students are depicted as incompetents who can barely process the most primitive levels of geography and direction. Furthermore, the books in the school library don't even contain words, the implication being that people before the 1960's were unsophisticated and incapable of handling complex ideas. What's more, everyone in the entire neighborhood is constantly depicted as being fearful of change and overly afraid of anything different from what they're accustomed to. The larger message is that old America was intellectually slow and altogether inferior in its basic attitude towards reality; people in old America needed an environment of absolute predictability and simplicity because they were too dumb to handle the complicated ideas brought by the preachers of 'diversity' and multiculturalism. This is horribly false, of course; the average American from the older culture was more enthusiastic about education/learning, more sophisticated in terms of vocabulary and sentence structure, etc. In short, the film is an attack on the older culture of America.

    The movie is actually able to disguise this propaganda against old American culture fairly well, because the plot isn't really focused on it directly; the focus is at least superficially concerned with the efforts of the brother and sister to return home. I would anticipate that the average person who watched the film didn't even realize that this denigration of old America was going on, because it happens subtly.

    Has anyone seen this film? What were your thoughts?

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    Evil Dead is another pretty lousy movie. The actors are terrible, the script is retarded (a girl is being attacked inside one of the rooms while one of the guys sits outside in a couch and doesn't even lift an eye brow until she runs out with the zombie woman on top of her. "Hmm, should I get that?" :p). Then the special effects are laughable, it almost looks like they used playdough when they modelled the zombie as it melts away (and they probably did). When there's a shot of one of the characters standing outside there's this huge moon, only problem is you can see that it's projected on a movie screen and so the darkness on the side of it is darker than the darkness within the frame so you can tell right away that it is in fact a screen. There's so many other golden moments like these which qualify this film for being an awful movie.


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    Then there's a shot when one of the zombies is hovering infront of the characters, and one of them blurts out in horror: "look at her eyes!", I mean Christ, she's hovering in mid air and all you can think of is her eyes being a bit weird looking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberwolf View Post
    /\ From an allied standpoint the movie is spectacular and really makes you appreciate the brotherhood and camaraderie amongst US soliders. The gritty battle scenes were some of the most realistic in terms of experiencing the hell of war. From the German side though, the movie falls flat. As one of the most organized and disciplined armies in history the tactics and combat maneuvers employed by the Germans in the film were historically inaccurate to the point of being laughable. The Steamboat Willy German was portrayed as disloyal and a coward. That isn't to say no Germans met these characteristics, but as the only German we get to know in the movie, it cements the idea of the squirmy Germans into the minds of audiences. Not much of a surprise considering the films Jewish director, Steven Spielberg, also created such anti-German films as Schindler List. Totally explains the scene in SPR where the Jew holds up his star of David necklace and repeats "Juden", the German word for Jew, to the passing German captives.


    That is a fair point.

    But personally I tend to leave my brain and emotions at the opening credits

    Hollywood is always going to portray who they like as they like. Just have to grin and bear it.
    Personally I am sick and tired of people with English accents, or who are well known Englishmen, being portrayed as evil in the form of a Human.

    God damn you Mel Gibson!!!!
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    Saw alotve bad movies, but the one that sticks out to me was "Battle of the Bulge". Because it attempted to be based on reality, took itself seriously and had a excellent cast. Meanwhile it some of the worst historical anachronisms around, and they had poor visual effects with the fake models being so obvious, so the effects were crap. Only good thing in the film was the Panzer anthem they lip sung to.

    Saving Private Ryan wasnt that good either, but The Thin Red Line, was far worse.

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    Hrm...that's hard to say because there are alot of films, TV series, and documentaries that shouldn't have been made. One that comes to mind that I thought was a waste of time and air time was BlackWhite, a TV series made by Ice Cube that had a white family and a black family who underwent a controversial makeup transformation that turned them into the opposite race. It was supposed to give the families experience of being the opposite race of the other family. It was complete BS and I lost time that I'll never get back.
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