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Old Thursday, March 15th, 2012   #1
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Should The Monarchy Be Reinstated?

Germaid brought these articles to my attention, and I thought it would be an interesting topic for discussion:

http://www.thelocal.de/national/20120314-41325.html
http://www.thelocal.de/opinion/20120314-41329.html

Monarchy was our traditional form of government for many centuries, ending only in 1918 in Germany and Austria. Is the Prince right? Would bringing back the monarchy strengthen German identity? Or would the Southern Germans object too much to a Hohenzollern again becoming King?
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Or would the Southern Germans object too much to a Hohenzollern again becoming King?
Emperor . But if they do bring back the Hohenzollern, then why not also reinstate other royal families who had ruled over the separate German states? If I remember correctly when the second Reich came in to being the other royal families where not dethroned, or at least not all of them.
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Of course. King of Prussia and Emperor of Germany.

But then, Prussia would have to be re-recognized as well..

Well, if the old system were to be reinstated, yes, one would think the other titles would also be restored.. I think there is still an heir to the Bavarian throne too, isn't there?
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Is the Prince right? Would bringing back the monarchy strengthen German identity? Or would the Southern Germans object too much to a Hohenzollern again becoming King?
The latter obviously would be the case, but that doesnt change much on that the legal heir of the All-German throne is very much right.

We've been deprived of our monarchy and parts of our territory after WWI, both losses havent been a product of our will. A king/emperor is a strong symbol for folk and nation, and is today more important than ever in this role.

Almost 100 years with democrazy (except for the 12 years in between) have left our once great nation in ruins (and this doesnt mean the war ruins), our identity is eroded, even demonised, and that pseudo-president post is no replacement for that, with its recent scandals we got even more real reasons to feel shame instead of pride. It's no naturally grown representation of the German Spirit, like the rest of the puppets, it's just another "democratically legitimised folk traitor".

So yes, bring back the Kaiser family into prominence, let them be an anchor of identity in the sea of all-humanity-globalised-non-identity.

Democrazy has proved to be a failure on all levels and in all aspects. Imho it shouldnt be only to no longer deny our monarchy, it should likewise be the first step in the transition to a more natural structure of leadership with the goal to remove democracy in the long run again.
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If they would actually rule that would be one thing, but why re-instate a sock puppet 'constitutional monarchy'?
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Germaid brought these articles to my attention, and I thought it would be an interesting topic for discussion:

http://www.thelocal.de/national/20120314-41325.html
http://www.thelocal.de/opinion/20120314-41329.html

Monarchy was our traditional form of government for many centuries, ending only in 1918 in Germany and Austria. Is the Prince right? Would bringing back the monarchy strengthen German identity? Or would the Southern Germans object too much to a Hohenzollern again becoming King?
NO !!! This is the very last thing that is needed, monarchy and nobility destroyed and fragmented Germany. If Germany, France and the US have something in common then it is that they are deeply Republicans, all of them.
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Germans should do what they fell is best for them to do.

That being said!
One Leader, Many Leaders, it is all pretty much the same.

"Government" as we have them today DO NOT work, and CAN NOT work.
The real problem I see with any form of Monarchy in today’s world is it would end up being a cult of personality and the power would remain in the hands of globalist.

As long as we "Lead" ourselves based on emotions, as opposed to facts then we will end up with irrational, and sever problems.

The only reason to have a Monarchy is for sentimental reasons. Which im not swaying is wrong, but that does not change the fact that most aspects of government in the modern world are just nonsense and serve no real function.
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It isn't beyond the realm of possibility - Spain reinstated its Monarch as recently as the 1970s, for instance. That being said, the political establishment, academia, and social progressives would raise hell if any serious effort to restore the German Monarchy was ever made. We saw an example of that when Otto von Habsburg was simply afforded an elaborate funeral last year. From a technical point of view, it's possible, but will almost certainly never happen.

Do I think it's a desirable option? Very much so; Germany was robbed of it's royal family, and a good deal of its territory, by backstabbing Marxists and a vengeful international community in the wake of the First World War. It's the historical German form of governance, like much of the rest of the Europe, and I believe solidifies a form of German identity immune to multiculturalisation and provides a stabilising factor over both nation and government.

Overall, I think the Germany of today would be much better had the Hohenzollern dynasty endured, but that could just be my nostalgia for the era...
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Do I think it's a desirable option? Very much so; Germany was robbed of it's royal family, and a good deal of its territory, by backstabbing Marxists and a vengeful international community in the wake of the First World War. It's the historical German form of governance, like much of the rest of the Europe, and I believe solidifies a form of German identity immune to multiculturalisation and provides a stabilising factor over both nation and government.
Historical Yes!
Immune to Multiculturalism NO!

And for this reason, it was very easy for people like the Rothschild to infiltrate royalty with intermarriage.

If you want to keep the mongrels out then institute genetic testing, and hard core science to create deterrents.

If Monarchy had done that the Marxist would have never been a problem.
Fact is though, populist Marxism, was in fact a stronger force in nature and as we know that generally
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