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Americans Can Be Assassinated On U.S. Soil?

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Old Sunday, March 11th, 2012   #1
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Americans Can Be Assassinated On U.S. Soil?

The FBI Director is unsure whether or not due process of the law is necessary before a US citizen that is deemed an enemy combatant by the President and his advisers is assassinated.
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/6...ted-on-us-soil
There is a short video with Judge Napolitano in the link.

In this link, Eric Holder makes his argument for why it is legal to kill people that are deemed to be an imminent threat.
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It is preferable to capture suspected terrorists where feasible – among other reasons, so that we can gather valuable intelligence from them – but we must also recognize that there are instances where our government has the clear authority – and, I would argue, the responsibility – to defend the United States through the appropriate and lawful use of lethal force.” -Holder
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/...-is-legal.html

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Well lets face the Fact.

Obama is a Fanatic and is directly related to not only the Clinton’s but the other Fanatics such as Bill Ayers and the Walter Mondale Democrats of the 1960's.

Eric Holder is currently under investigation over starting a false flag Terrorist War in Mexico with Illegal guns that were authorized by a government agency the ATF.

So here is the deal.

TERRORISM IS NOT A THE PROBLEM!
GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM!

The garbage that is shaping up in Washington DC is begging to rival the sort of mess that was threatening the world under the old Soviet Union, so I would suggest that the world and American citizens get ready to protect themselves by any means necessary.

It is amazing as hell that these sorts of criminals were able to get this far in our democratic system, but the fact is they have. And as far as they are concerned the Law does not apply to them.

As for Obama my guess is that his agenda boils down to the fact that he is a fanatic leftist that will do anything he can to advance his narrow agenda of, "Racial, Gender, and Mudd-cultural Equality". And he will use any means he can, legal, moral or not.

Whites are their own nation, and are as such NOT, connected to this Bull $hit, state governments and international organization, but are connected by genetics. When we learn that and begin to care for our own then there will be a positive change in our favour.
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Well lets face the Fact.

Obama is a Fanatic and is directly related to not only the Clinton’s but the other Fanatics such as Bill Ayers and the Walter Mondale Democrats of the 1960's.

Eric Holder is currently under investigation over starting a false flag Terrorist War in Mexico with Illegal guns that were authorized by a government agency the ATF.

So here is the deal.

TERRORISM IS NOT A THE PROBLEM!
GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM!

The garbage that is shaping up in Washington DC is begging to rival the sort of mess that was threatening the world under the old Soviet Union, so I would suggest that the world and American citizens get ready to protect themselves by any means necessary.

It is amazing as hell that these sorts of criminals were able to get this far in our democratic system, but the fact is they have. And as far as they are concerned the Law does not apply to them.

As for Obama my guess is that his agenda boils down to the fact that he is a fanatic leftist that will do anything he can to advance his narrow agenda of, "Racial, Gender, and Mudd-cultural Equality". And he will use any means he can, legal, moral or not.

Whites are their own nation, and are as such NOT, connected to this Bull $hit, state governments and international organization, but are connected by genetics. When we learn that and begin to care for our own then there will be a positive change in our favour.
How exactly was it different under the previous U.S. administration, that you single out Obama for condemnation? What has Obama done that is such a drastic departure from Bush?
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How exactly was it different under the previous U.S. administration, that you single out Obama for condemnation? What has Obama done that is such a drastic departure from Bush?
He is negro-centric, and specifically anti-white. This means he will have little sympathy for those who oppose globalism if they happen to be "raciss crackas." And Obama does not want us to be equal.. he wants blacks to be privileged.

You cannot say government is the problem, because on this level and for this role, government is a necessity. We need, at the very least, a government to protect us from our enemies. The real problem is, who does "our" government represent, and whose enemies are being targeted? We are seeing the real effects of multiculturalism now with the Obama administration, because this is a leader who is in multiple ways the very antithesis of what a true leader should be. The leader should be one of the people he leads, he should not be corruptible, and he should not be dominated by outside forces. Obama is none of these things. Why should a Marxist negro care about Germanic Americans? How can he look out for our interests when he is bought by the banks and other big corporations? How can he represent Americans of any kind, when his first loyalty is to globalism and king Rothschild?

I will tell the bald-faced truth about why Britain and America thought Germany was a threat before WWI and WWII... it was because Germany's leaders were what leaders should be. The Kaiser and the Führer may have been "totalitarian," but they represented the will of their people in a way the leaders of "democratic" states today never could. They fulfilled all the aforementioned criteria, so they were "the enemy," but why should this be? Because Britain and America were both Rothschildist states, and remain so today. Rothschildist globalism rejects any independent governments, because such states get in the way of their own aspirations for global hegemony. The perfect examples today are Iran and the Arab Spring states, particularly Libya. Did the British or American government do anything about Libya when British and American people were murdered by Gadaffi in the Lockerbie crash? Pft.. we don't matter. They only did anything about him when it mattered to king Rothschild and his globalist thugs. The same is happening with Iran now. Iran's only threat is really that it is independent of the Rothschild system. It is therefore targeted, and the news you hear is all just propaganda generated to gain public support for war.

But now, the "enemy" (meaning those who oppose Rothschildism) can be anywhere, so of course they will instruct the governments under their control to ignore any constitutional protections and outright murder any of their citizens who are problematic and can be labeled a "terrorist." All the easier for an anti-white negro to conscience.
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Imo Ombongo is part of the natural evolution of Great Satan USA's Dystopian Paradise. Ombongo himself is nothing special or particularly different to those "white" Presidents OTUS who came before him.

Too much emphasis is (intentionally) placed in the Corporate Media on the Presidential Puppet and his Administration whilst the Two Party (Rep & Dem) Musical Chairs Corporatocracy System (masquerading as "Democracy") retains the real power.

*Note that I'm not saying that the Reps and Dems are the real power, I'm saying that they are the chosen representatives (public face) of the Elite and Corporatocracy System which has the real power.


The real Power and Control in the USA is exercised by the Corporations, the Mega Wealthy, the Elite Institutions (political, non-political, military, legal) which were built around it and/or usurped by the Corporatocracy. The notion that "the (wo)man in the street" decides anything through "voting" is a misguided fallacy since their list of "choices" are already pre-determined and the Election Outcome always results in a Win for the Corporatocracy and Elites.

Through the millenia the age old struggle has always been between the "haves" (Elites) and the "have nots" (Plebeians). The Plebeians want more, the Elites want more and want to limit the ability of the Plebeians to usurp them, compete with them and share with them.

In the Dystopian Great Satan USA's Egocentric, Über-Capitalist and Consumerist Society where Mammon is worshipped like no other god it makes perfect sense why the Corporatocracy (as represented by its puppet Presidents, Legal System and armed Federal and Military thugs) are becoming increasingly interested in legalising domestic assassinations and handing themselves the powers to determine and declare who are "terrorists".
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He is negro-centric, and specifically anti-white. This means he will have little sympathy for those who oppose globalism if they happen to be "raciss crackas." And Obama does not want us to be equal.. he wants blacks to be privileged.

You cannot say government is the problem, because on this level and for this role, government is a necessity. We need, at the very least, a government to protect us from our enemies. The real problem is, who does "our" government represent, and whose enemies are being targeted? We are seeing the real effects of multiculturalism now with the Obama administration, because this is a leader who is in multiple ways the very antithesis of what a true leader should be. The leader should be one of the people he leads, he should not be corruptible, and he should not be dominated by outside forces. Obama is none of these things. Why should a Marxist negro care about Germanic Americans? How can he look out for our interests when he is bought by the banks and other big corporations? How can he represent Americans of any kind, when his first loyalty is to globalism and king Rothschild?

I will tell the bald-faced truth about why Britain and America thought Germany was a threat before WWI and WWII... it was because Germany's leaders were what leaders should be. The Kaiser and the Führer may have been "totalitarian," but they represented the will of their people in a way the leaders of "democratic" states today never could. They fulfilled all the aforementioned criteria, so they were "the enemy," but why should this be? Because Britain and America were both Rothschildist states, and remain so today. Rothschildist globalism rejects any independent governments, because such states get in the way of their own aspirations for global hegemony. The perfect examples today are Iran and the Arab Spring states, particularly Libya. Did the British or American government do anything about Libya when British and American people were murdered by Gadaffi in the Lockerbie crash? Pft.. we don't matter. They only did anything about him when it mattered to king Rothschild and his globalist thugs. The same is happening with Iran now. Iran's only threat is really that it is independent of the Rothschild system. It is therefore targeted, and the news you hear is all just propaganda generated to gain public support for war.

But now, the "enemy" (meaning those who oppose Rothschildism) can be anywhere, so of course they will instruct the governments under their control to ignore any constitutional protections and outright murder any of their citizens who are problematic and can be labeled a "terrorist." All the easier for an anti-white negro to conscience.
Just as an aside, my mother considers Obama to be white, because his mother was white.

Well not really an aside, because I think any focus on Obama's blackness is a distraction from what is really going on. They'd have put another white republican in if they thought the world could stomach another warmongering republican. But of course the world had had enough of warmongering republicans by the end of Bush's two terms. And Americans needed the feel-good boost of their first ever black Pres. to put the memory of Bush's excesses in the past. Worked a charm, did it not?

Bush did squat towards "addressing multiculturalism" in his eight years, and in fact the right side of politics has always been the moving force behind the inflow of illegal immigrants into the US. If they didn't want it to happen, if they weren't profiting from it, then the flow of immigrants would have dried up long ago.

My initial question still stands - I still don't see how Obama is any different to Bush. They both were acting according to "Rothschildian" dictates.
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Scholl, just as an aside, would your mother have wept with joy had you brought home a woman who's father was aboriginal but who's mother was white and so considered her to be white?

Anyway, it doesn't matter who the President of the US is or claims to be. The real power lies otherwhere, as such point has been made by posters previous. All of the US government, and all western governments in general, is and are owned in fee simple by a certain non indo germanic tribe which has made it it's purpose on earth to destroy western civilisation.
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The FBI Director is unsure whether or not due process of the law is necessary before a US citizen that is deemed an enemy combatant by the President and his advisers is assassinated.
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/6...ted-on-us-soil
There is a short video with Judge Napolitano in the link.
An enemy combatant, one who is actively engaged in disrupting the union, its government, or societies whether foreign or domestic forfeits all rights to life and liberty. The society as a collective reserves the right to dispose of them without trial. They can not hide behind the jury system anymore than the South during the war could claim its rights under the constitution, they are outside the law.



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Surly, Thomas Jefferson understood that juries are not needed for traitors or enemies actively pursuing the destruction of the states and their governments.
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Scholl, just as an aside, would your mother have wept with joy had you brought home a woman who's father was aboriginal but who's mother was white and so considered her to be white?
My mother is almost entirely incapable of being unkind to others, no matter what their skin colour, though she does have a solid sense of foreignness when it comes to people of different races.

I think her opinion about Obama's race comes from the shame she senses she'd feel if she were in Obama's mother's shoes, bearing a dark skinned baby - she'd rather the world categorise the child as white, so as to reduce the embarrassment. A white woman is white, therefore, in my mother's mind, any child a white woman bears will also be white. She's old school - nudging 80 years old.

In answer to your question, she certainly wouldn't weep with joy, but I imagine she'd accept the situation, as long as the woman in question was a good person, and I was happy with the arrangement.
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An enemy combatant, one who is actively engaged in disrupting the union, its government, or societies whether foreign or domestic forfeits all rights to life and liberty.
The question here remains how much proof you need to consider someone an "active combatant", and who can then utter the final judgment.

If the president thinks a certain someone stole his car, can he justly order his secret service to search and kill him?
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