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Ron McVan and the Plagiarism Issue

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Old Monday, October 18th, 2010   #1
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Ron McVan and the Plagiarism Issue

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He is a plagiarist - This is the original article: http://web.archive.org/web/200609130...wiki/Ron_McVan. In that article are a few Odinist.com links. These links were by the person that took on the task of looking into both sides. The links showed exactly was was copied and the author contacted the Rite, McNallen and McVan. The responces were laid clear in the threads but I can no longer access them. McVan is the only one that never responded and the poster new him personally.

==Plagiarism== Lane contributed to a book by Ron McVan called '' 'Creed_of_Iron_(book): Wotansvolk Wisdom' '' which was heavily plagiarized from The_Book_of_Blotar published by the [[Odinic Rite]]. ref. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. and Odinist Stephen_A._McNallen. McVan is ridiculed by many in the Asatru/Odinist community, even the folkish side of this scene, for his blatant plagarism. In both the books by McVan, Temple_of_Wotan_(book) and Creed of Iron, McVan has given no notes, references, influences or to a bibliography, he has not cited his work and neither the Odinic Rite nor McNallen say that he asked permission to use their work. There are swathes of the Odinic_Rite's The_Book_of_Blotar in bopth of his works (mainly the rituals) and for example, the 'Hammer Sign' rite by Stephen_A._McNallen from his book Living_Asatru is copied word for word. They are all passed off as his own work. The OR has never criticized and when it has been brought up, it has been suggested that he may have done this as the piece was written perfectly as it was and that he may not have wanted to associate the OR or McNallen with his more racial orientation. That being said, he could have contact them and explained this much if this was the case.
The quote above the one always given when accusing Mr. Ron McVan of plagiarism. I have pulled this information from various places accusing him of it. I have, about 10 minutes ago, been forwarded an email from a colleague of mine whom has been in touch with Mr. McVan, and attached is a written statement by McVan regarding this issue - my understanding it that it was written between the 16th and 18th October, 2010. I paste it below. He is on facebook if anyone wants to contact him: http://www.facebook.com/ron.mcvan - his relevent contact details are listed. I might add that all the while this has been going on, no one has ever referenced any section of the Book of Blotar that has been copied.

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O.R. BLOTAR QUESTION
by Ron McVan

For over a decade now since I wrote the book "Temple Of Wotan" I have never received a single negative critique or response whatsoever, only the highest appreciation for making such a needed book available. One single accusation alone however, continues to surface from time to time which puts forth the claim that I plagiarized some of the ideas for the blotar segment of my book from the Odinic Rite, "Book of Blotar". I surely do not deny that the O.R. Blotar book was a part of my research in the area of ceremony but to claim that I lifted whole paragraphs and now the even further and equally bogus claim that I lifted whole pages from the O.R. blotar are simply untrue and totally absurd! Most people I find who are raising this question are people who have never even read the Temple Of Wotan! I suggest that before anyone buys into such claims and snap judgements, that they read both books and then and only then make any evaluations from what their own findings determine on whether any serious form of plagiarism is there to be justifiable.


When I wrote the blotar segment of my book I researched all that was possibly available to me about pagan blotar from ancient Egyptian, Babylonian, Greek, Celtic, Druid, Viking and etc. I simply combined all that I could find in Aryan pagan ceremonial, rites and rituals to create what I felt was the most complete and useful source of Aryan pagan blotar for active kindreds to refer to. The O.R. Blotar booklet was written about two decades ago and was fine for that immediate time but it soon to became evident that Wotanistism and Asatru needed more than just a thin plastic spiral bound booklet of basic blotar, we needed a complete book of everything not just rites and rituals alone. I could have helped the O.R. greatly back then and often tried to network with them but they had made it quite clear that I was blackballed from their Odinist circles because of my known activism and commitment for Aryan racial rights or lack there of, which I knew to be above and beyond Wotanism in its urgency. In those days from the 60's to the 90's, I was more active in race politics, but one had to be politically active then , it certainly was not a time to put ones head in the sand and play act as Vikings in the worlds of historic fantasy. Our people were being killed by the U.S. government for simply homeschooling their children, for resisting unjust taxes, for living outside of the system as in Ruby Ridge and burning men, women and children alive as happened in Waco. In those days of upheaval I worked with anyone who resisted tyranny and the assault upon our liberties as a race which I will never ever regret.

So many people, and the O.R. at that time were no exception, found it convenient to lay the racist bigot Nazi supremacist tag on me, and it has always been that way for the "Can't we just all get along" "head in the sand" crowd that have always remained in opposition of any form of Aryan activism. All that I have ever been was an Aryan man who stands his ground for his race and heritage and highly proud indeed of my ancestors. There was a time and not that long ago when that was the normal way of any natural born Aryan man or woman all the way back to our earliest beginnings. Now we live in a sick retarded cowardly age when Aryan men are supposed to look down at the floor in shame whenever he hears the word "Aryan" or "Pride". God help him if he speaks his mind! Personally I always speak my mind but nowhere within my writings will be found any unwarrented attacks against other races nor any artistic visual vulgarisms of any sort. After 40 years of activism in and around this nation one gets to know just about everyone on the playing field from the extreme left to the extreme right and all in between. The concerns of my race are always first and foremost but beyond that I judge everyone by their mind and heart, however notorious in the media eye they may be. If some of their baggage rubs off on me it is not something I can prevent, it is just part of everyday life in a world long gone insane. I will stand by those who fight for rightness as a friend and brother in arms to the bitter end as long as they are totally commited and sincere in their opposition against evil and injustice, and the corrupt world and the stinking media be damned!

Back to the subject of pagan blotar.... No one can ever claim the right to its authenticity because ritual and ceremonial practices all draw from the same ancient wellspring of its origin. We can spice it up at times and add a new twist here and there but at the foundation, it can only remain what it is and always has been since ancient times. When the O.R. Book of Blotar was written they did not just write it from the top of their head, they had to hit the books and do some research on ancient ritual and piece together what they needed. People take from my works all of the time without giving me credit but it is not an issue because when one writes a practising guidebook, that is essentially what that kind of book is for. I strongly encourage people to learn from what I have written and improve upon it as best they can. If someone forms their own personal ceremony and I happen to see a few of my own influences within it, I take that as a compliment! My foul with the O.R. is that I did not mention their helpful influence to my own blotar research but how could I when they made it overlywhelmingly clear that they wanted no association whatsoever with me?

It has also been touted that I stole Steve McNallens hammer sign. How can anyone claim originality on a one dimensional stick man doing a hammer sign? It is what it is and nothing can be changed added or taken away! It is a standard graphic for gods sakes! Steve McNallen is a long time friend of mine and a more sincere Aryan you will never find. In the past I have let Steve use some of my artwork and if he needed it he knew all he had to do was ask. Steve and I both know that if a problem ever arises between us that we can just get on the phone or email and disguss it. I don't always sign every artwork that I do and if I don't get credit it is no big deal, I am just gald that it is useful. If someone attempts to make a business out of my artwork without telling me, then yes, that would be a problem. I've had people in the past start making tee-shirts with my artwork on it and or sell my drawings as a business and never even contact me to talk about it! That is theft pure and simple!

For the past 20 years to date, the O.R., continues to stonewall me and will not give me the time of day. I am not aware who exactly among the O.R. are continuing to crank out this pettiness and the whining inaccurate exagerations accusing me of plagiarizing their blotar book. It may even possibly be someone from outside of their organization. Unfortunately, I do know that one of the instigators is someone who had once sworn an oath of brotherhood to me in my Viking hof, Mattias Gardell. In the past I had treated Mattias like my own blood brother and even let him use the custom collector classic Chevy Nova that I had at that time, to travel the whole United States while he was interviewing everyone for his "Gods Of The Blood" book. I Traveled with him all the way to Victoria B.C. to visit and interview Elsie Christiansen. Always let him stay at our home while visiting here from Sweden for as long as he desired, and fed him and entertained him and provide him with the lions share of info that he needed to produce his book. I Gave him a 300 dollar full length black leather jacket and loads of other gifts and handcrafts that I had made.... No kinsman could I have done more for. Now that his book is published and he got what he needed, he chooses to stab me in the back by supporting these petty attacks about plagiarism and breaks his sacred oath of brotherhood that he had sworn before the gods. Unequivically speaking I have more knives in my back from so called kinsmen than Julius Caesar ever did!

Most people by now know that all 13 tons of my Wotansvolk books that I had printed, with a net value of half a million dollars, were stolen from me ten years ago by Katja Lane and John Post. In the past ten years I have not received one red cent from those books. I could easily resort to writing creative novels for just money and my own artistic satisfaction or sell my oil paintings, or go full steam with my rock 'n' roll music again or any number of things, but I continue to produce books to help lift our people to a higher awareness of their glorious heritage and indigenous spirituality, gods and ancesters. We live in extremely perilous times when our race is quickly about to go extinct and we are fast losing all of our homelands to aliens pouring in from every third world corner of the world, in both the U.S. and Europe. If Odinic Rite or anyone can write a better guidebook for Wotanism and Asatru practitioners than "Temple Of Wotan" then please stop sitting on your hands and do it! You have had twenty years to rest! We need it now more than ever! Do something significant for gods sakes! You have an entire organization, I have just me. Quit the petty endless bitching and either do something or get out of the way! You can even borrow as many lines from my books as you want! Just remember this.....What will Asatru and Wotanism or even the gods of our folk mean if our race goes extinct? Take a good look around! It is already happening! Do the math! Do something significant to make your people and ancestors proud! Do it now! Go for it!!!!
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O.R. Blotar Question

O.R. BLOTAR QUESTION

by Ron McVan


For over a decade now since I wrote the book "Temple Of Wotan" I have never received a single negative critique or response whatsoever, only the highest appreciation for making such a needed book available. One single accusation alone however, continues to surface from time to time which puts forth the claim that I plagiarized some of the ideas for the blotar segment of my book from the Odinic Rite, "Book of Blotar". I surely do not deny that the O.R. Blotar book was a part of my research in the area of ceremony but to claim that I lifted whole paragraphs and now the even further and equally bogus claim that I lifted whole pages from the O.R. blotar are simply untrue and totally absurd! Most people I find who are raising this question are people who have never even read the Temple Of Wotan! I suggest that before anyone buys into such claims and snap judgements, that they read both books and then and only then make any evaluations from what their own findings determine on whether any serious form of plagiarism is there to be justifiable.

When I wrote the blotar segment of my book I researched all that was possibly available to me about pagan blotar from ancient Egyptian, Babylonian, Greek, Celtic, Druid, Viking and etc. I simply combined all that I could find in Aryan pagan ceremonial, rites and rituals to create what I felt was the most complete and useful source of Aryan pagan blotar for active kindreds to refer to. The O.R. Blotar booklet was written about two decades ago and was fine for that immediate time but it soon to became evident that Wotanistism and Asatru needed more than just a thin plastic spiral bound booklet of basic blotar, we needed a complete book of everything not just rites and rituals alone. I could have helped the O.R. greatly back then and often tried to network with them but they had made it quite clear that I was blackballed from their Odinist circles because of my known activism and commitment for Aryan racial rights or lack there of, which I knew to be above and beyond Wotanism in its urgency. In those days from the 60's to the 90's, I was more active in race politics, but one had to be politically active then , it certainly was not a time to put ones head in the sand and play act as Vikings in the worlds of historic fantasy. Our people were being killed by the U.S. government for simply homeschooling their children, for resisting unjust taxes, for living outside of the system as in Ruby Ridge and burning men, women and children alive as happened in Waco. In those days of upheaval I worked with anyone who resisted tyranny and the assault upon our liberties as a race which I will never ever regret.

So many people, and the O.R. at that time were no exception, found it convenient to lay the racist bigot Nazi supremacist tag on me, and it has always been that way for the "Can't we just all get along" "head in the sand" crowd that have always remained in opposition of any form of Aryan activism. All that I have ever been was an Aryan man who stands his ground for his race and heritage and highly proud indeed of my ancestors. There was a time and not that long ago when that was the normal way of any natural born Aryan man or woman all the way back to our earliest beginnings. Now we live in a sick retarded cowardly age when Aryan men are supposed to look down at the floor in shame whenever he hears the word "Aryan" or "Pride". God help him if he speaks his mind! Personally I always speak my mind but nowhere within my writings will be found any unwarrented attacks against other races nor any artistic visual vulgarisms of any sort. After 40 years of activism in and around this nation one gets to know just about everyone on the playing field from the extreme left to the extreme right and all in between. The concerns of my race are always first and foremost but beyond that I judge everyone by their mind and heart, however notorious in the media eye they may be. If some of their baggage rubs off on me it is not something I can prevent, it is just part of everyday life in a world long gone insane. I will stand by those who fight for rightness as a friend and brother in arms to the bitter end as long as they are totally commited and sincere in their opposition against evil and injustice, and the corrupt world and the stinking media be damned!

Back to the subject of pagan blotar.... No one can ever claim the right to its authenticity because ritual and ceremonial practices all draw from the same ancient wellspring of its origin. We can spice it up at times and add a new twist here and there but at the foundation, it can only remain what it is and always has been since ancient times. When the O.R. Book of Blotar was written they did not just write it from the top of their head, they had to hit the books and do some research on ancient ritual and piece together what they needed. People take from my works all of the time without giving me credit but it is not an issue because when one writes a practising guidebook, that is essentially what that kind of book is for. I strongly encourage people to learn from what I have written and improve upon it as best they can. If someone forms their own personal ceremony and I happen to see a few of my own influences within it, I take that as a compliment! My foul with the O.R. is that I did not mention their helpful influence to my own blotar research but how could I when they made it overlywhelmingly clear that they wanted no association whatsoever with me?

It has also been touted that I stole Steve McNallens hammer sign. How can anyone claim originality on a one dimensional stick man doing a hammer sign? It is what it is and nothing can be changed added or taken away! It is a standard graphic for gods sakes! Steve McNallen is a long time friend of mine and a more sincere Aryan you will never find. In the past I have let Steve use some of my artwork and if he needed it he knew all he had to do was ask. Steve and I both know that if a problem ever arises between us that we can just get on the phone or email and disguss it. I don't always sign every artwork that I do and if I don't get credit it is no big deal, I am just gald that it is useful. If someone attempts to make a business out of my artwork without telling me, then yes, that would be a problem. I've had people in the past start making tee-shirts with my artwork on it and or sell my drawings as a business and never even contact me to talk about it! That is theft pure and simple!

For the past 20 years to date, the O.R., continues to stonewall me and will not give me the time of day. I am not aware who exactly among the O.R. are continuing to crank out this pettiness and the whining inaccurate exagerations accusing me of plagiarizing their blotar book. It may even possibly be someone from outside of their organization. Unfortunately, I do know that one of the instigators is someone who had once sworn an oath of brotherhood to me in my Viking hof, Mattias Gardell. In the past I had treated Mattias like my own blood brother and even let him use the custom collector classic Chevy Nova that I had at that time, to travel the whole United States while he was interviewing everyone for his "Gods Of The Blood" book. I Traveled with him all the way to Victoria B.C. to visit and interview Elsie Christiansen. Always let him stay at our home while visiting here from Sweden for as long as he desired, and fed him and entertained him and provide him with the lions share of info that he needed to produce his book. I Gave him a 300 dollar full length black leather jacket and loads of other gifts and handcrafts that I had made.... No kinsman could I have done more for. Now that his book is published and he got what he needed, he chooses to stab me in the back by supporting these petty attacks about plagiarism and breaks his sacred oath of brotherhood that he had sworn before the gods. Unequivically speaking I have more knives in my back from so called kinsmen than Julius Caesar ever did!

Most people by now know that all 13 tons of my Wotansvolk books that I had printed, with a net value of half a million dollars, were stolen from me ten years ago by Katja Lane and John Post. In the past ten years I have not received one red cent from those books. I could easily resort to writing creative novels for just money and my own artistic satisfaction or sell my oil paintings, or go full steam with my rock 'n' roll music again or any number of things, but I continue to produce books to help lift our people to a higher awareness of their glorious heritage and indigenous spirituality, gods and ancesters. We live in extremely perilous times when our race is quickly about to go extinct and we are fast losing all of our homelands to aliens pouring in from every third world corner of the world, in both the U.S. and Europe. If Odinic Rite or anyone can write a better guidebook for Wotanism and Asatru practitioners than "Temple Of Wotan" then please stop sitting on your hands and do it! You have had twenty years to rest! We need it now more than ever! Do something significant for gods sakes! You have an entire organization, I have just me. Quit the petty endless bitching and either do something or get out of the way! You can even borrow as many lines from my books as you want! Just remember this.....What will Asatru and Wotanism or even the gods of our folk mean if our race goes extinct? Take a good look around! It is already happening! Do the math! Do something significant to make your people and ancestors proud! Do it now! Go for it!!!!
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Old Sunday, October 24th, 2010   #3
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Dionysius, I was sent this article a few days ago by a supporter of Ron McVans, as I am - as far as I know he has been the only one to actually get McVans side of the story - with these lies raging for far too long. What I post is the re-edited version based on Mr. McVan's updated article - which is the updated article based on Mr. McVans request - a second email update. I was given this in confidence that it would be Mr. McVan's latest word so no lies will be spread about him. Why post it again in the same topic brother? Is yours another update?: If so, are you in touch with Nikarev or are you Mr. McVan himself?

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O.R. Question

Heilsa Kinsman!

Yes it is me Ron McVan sending the article. I was not aware if the article had made its way to you. Just wanted to make sure that you received it. I sent one also to Mattias Gardell who has been stirring this pot for years now as well as Stormfront who also received a copy. I appreciate your posting it. In Kinship! ORION! R.M.
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Heilsa Kinsman!

Yes it is me Ron McVan sending the article. I was not aware if the article had made its way to you. Just wanted to make sure that you received it. I sent one also to Mattias Gardell who has been stirring this pot for years now as well as Stormfront who also received a copy. I appreciate your posting it. In Kinship! ORION! R.M.
Right, so my original and latest post it the latest version so far - it needs to be made clear so no more lies are made about you brother. If you want to update then either make it clear to the original contactee or in any forum you post or to the person that contacted you about the truth (it is not that they want sole access but ONLY the truth and mixed posts make a mess - he supports you fully) - I received it off a kinsman here in England and he supports you - like i say, until him no-one got your side of the story - but he doesn't like to be named on forums - enough said is at last your side is out and its the latest version - that is all he wants! Post it anywhere you like but for your original contactee this is the only link so that way no other misrepresentation is received - other than that it is up to you - you are the author and target. Stormfront got a link, but it was back to here - the original posting. Like I said, neither myself nor the original contactee wants credit - but only the truth for you - having only one link that Mr. McVan agrees to eliminates a lot of rubbish and lies.

Mattias Gardell is a journalist and is only expected to lie to line his pocket - (we all trust and you are not the only one to be burned) - look at the lies Moynihan and Søderlind did in Lords of Choas to Varg! I nor (the one that contacted you) take sides but you only have to look at the publised evidence to realise the truth. In your case, he is true, lucky you were contaced otherwse I fear these lies would carry on. Why did you not fight back years ago regarding this?

Anyway, unfortunately you leanred this in an inconvenient way regarding the journalist - I understand that he has been contacted but whether he makes an official statement will be interesting to see - the truth will out! Moynihan and Søderlind don't appear to have the balls to explain but Varg - from his official posts on his website - should make all this clear.

McVan - we hail you!
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O.r.blotar

Heilsa Kinsman!

I thank you for your reply and appreciate your interest in bringing this whole matter to an end. Personally I never gave the O.R. Blotar issue any mind for all those years because I never thought that it was worthy to even argue about until I found that some had even went so far as to call me a theif. That is one claim that no one in my 40 years of service could ever acuse me of. Steve McNallen has always been my friend and kinsman and if he had any issue over anything concerning his behalf he would have just picked up the phone and called me. With the Odinic Rite, I never really ever know who it is personally that is charging me on their behalf. I understand their ruffled feathers in that I had some of their blotar book influence in my own blotar. I never denied that and as I mentioned before my only error perhaps is that I did not give them mention in my book. But again understand that they had unjustly blackballed me from their circle at that time over the course of the last eleven years since the books publication as well as the past two decades. I ask you...Do I deserve to be treated like an embarresment and leper from their circle because I stand my ground for my race? Is there any evidence of my attacking other races in my writings? Did I ever lash out at them over all of that time in any way?

David Lane and half of the Order were good friends of mine and their beliefs in the survival of our race so strong that they desided to take warrior action. Should I have taken the same approach as the O.R. did to me and say that the "Order" are too radical and their notoriety might rub off on me, better cancel them out as friends? Yes their baggage did rub off on me and it is still there, I must deal with it all of the time. My personal friends in the Order were passionate men of the deepest concern for our race. Sure they made some serious mistakes and still paying for them but there is no way in Hades that I would ever turn my back on them and that kind of commitment and passion even if I may not always agree with their restless and impatient tactics at times. Since I had started Wotansvolk, Charlton Heston who was extremely proud of his Viking and Celtic blood and heritage stood his ground with me until his untimely death, and he had much more to lose than did the Odinic Rite. He even wore the 2oz. silver Thors hammer that I had made for him until his dying day I have been told.

Concerning the media, I never ever trust them, but in the case of Mattias, I broke my golden rule and made an exception. It was a big mistake! I knew that Mattias was from the extreme left but he had convinced me that he had a deep commitment to Thor and he had pledged that commitment with the deepest passion inside of my holy Viking Hof before all that were present and most importantly our gods! What kind of a man can do that then turn around on a kinsman that he had taken an oath of brotherhood with and slander him and stab him in the back??? How can someone like that look at themselves in the mirror every day? The man is simply out for himself and his own interests and obviously has no integrity whatsoever, no better than Katja and John Post! It took me awhile in life to find that I am too willing to trust people and take them at their word. The world and the people in it are really not like we would want to believe it is. As you already know, my 13 tons of books were stolen from me 10 years ago by Katja and I am sure she is still living off those profits. At some point I will attempt to have those books reprinted. If it will make the O.R. feel any better I will include a favorable mention for their inspiration in my own blotar works in the new edition, or I could easily write the whole segment over again sans their influence but would much rather leave it as it is. I never recovered financially from my loss with Katja but working at it with now with new books being released at this time which is necessary to generate cash for the old books to be reprinted. As for the Odinic Rite in general I leave the olive branch extended that we get past our differences and move on. Thanks again for your own interest to those ends kinsman! Ron McVan
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"Wulf Sorensen wrote the original "VOICE OF OUR FOREFATHERS" in the first half of the 20th century as a calling of the blood to all the of the Aryan tribes worldwide. In this newly expanded edition of that book, the reader will find an even deeper calling to times which are now far more perilous not only for Aryans and all of humanity but to our life-sustaining planet as well. "VOICE OF OUR FOREFATHERS" makes a diligent attempt to awaken the Aryan people to the extremely vital and urgent issues incumbent upon those who are rapidly losing their ancestral and ethnic roots to an alarming degree in the maddening gyre of the modern industrial, consumer driven high-tech age."



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"Heilsa,Just to let everyone know that Ron McVan has a new book out called "Voice of our Forefather's". The book is being sold on amazon.com for $25.00 Read it if you dare!Here is what i...t is all about:VOICE OF OUR FOREFATHERSIf ever there was a book tailored to lift a people to a Revolution Of Thought and arouse the ancestral awareness within them, you will surely find it within the 238 pages of the newly released Aryan Manifesto: "Voice Of Our Forefathers" by author Ron McVan. Perhaps the most profoundly critical and pivotal manifesto of its kind in our modern day times. "Voice Of Our Forefathers" is a vastly expanded and artful edition of the original 1930's V.O.O.F. publication by Wulf Sorensen. Bold in its urgency, dauntless in its message, rebellious and ever defiant! The pride of gods, of ancestors, of heroes, and folk combine! A book of vital heroic spark and the indomitable Nietzschean Will To Power! Be forewarned and beware, but READ THIS BOOK! Dare to defy the machine! Dare to defy your systems incorrect politically correct controllers! Dare to demand your sovereign right to Liberty as a people in this declining rudderless world! Dare to comprehend the stark truth, the spirit, the vision, the unabashed unifying folk consciousness that speaks directly from the blood..... From that immortal inner essence and determination of being, forged upon the anvil of nationhood that is, and ever will remain........ "THE VOICE OF OUR FOREFATHERS"!"
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Once you had read the first post in this thread, which is the latest update, pleas read the article linked within it, entitled, 'Betrayal' by Ron McVan, June 23, 2008, as pasted below:

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Betrayal
by Ron McVan
June 23, 2008
It is an important task of every Aryan to arrive at a clear knowledge of his or her own level of ethics and how we must apply those ethics in practice among family, friends and folk of whom we owe the highest levels of our trust. The ancestral legacies of our forbears that trail behind and make up our history are largely dependant upon us as living exponents of our race to carry on the progress of self perfection as man and species and suffer unduly from our mistakes, as does the planet upon which we depend for our survival. The highest caliber of our ancestors invested their genius, their toil and in war their very lives in the most grusome of battles so that future generations could carry on 'The Great Work' to improve themselves and their own state of being on this planet as well. When a race is in its natural vibrant state all things prosper; when it is not, and its people act with less than the best of their genetic potential and abandon their culture and ethnic customs and defy natures laws, all things go to ruin. A well administered state of trust and integrity among our folk is perhaps the greatest survival safeguard that we can possess and equal in importance to our unity as a race.

Family and folk are the twin pillars which make up the essential foundation of any race nation and that strength will remain strong only as long as we are trustful and honorable among each other. By tradition, our own people were known to be highly devoted to their ethnic clans, yet today, the Aryan race finds itself rapidly declining in number (less than 8% of the world population) it should be more important to us now more than ever that these worthy ethnic qualities we find deteriorating so swiftly at every level in the modern world do not expire all together, as such a result would certainly insure the total extinction of our species. It is therefore incumbant upon our race to incorporate itself into a single body, a Pan Aryan World Federation of Euro-ethnic tribes, in which our national cultures both past and present shall be preserved and cultivated for the greater good of our survival.

In olden days most Aryan tribes shared a common code of ethics, justice and trust. A man was only as good as his word. If his word was known to be worthless, he likewise was viewed as worthless to himself and to his tribe. Such people who's word was not to be trusted were duely labeled as "Skraelings" scorned and driven away from the tribe. It did not matter if you were rich or poor, if you were known not to be trusted it was considered one of the lowest of shames that a man or woman could endure. A man with no self respect will certainly have even less respect from others. Today most people think nothing of breaking their word or betraying their trust to just about anyone. This is largely a result of the breakdown of our own indigenous tribal values of years gone by. The prevailing mode of our time in today's cut-throat Capitalistic socities is primarily 'Every Man For Himself', or 'Screw Over Others Before They Screw You'. Such twisted seeds of thought are lethal to the foundations of any race or nation. No longer can we assume that because someone is of our own kind that they are worthy of our trust which is a key factor to the sorry state of our people in this darkening modern era of decline.

"Know, if thou hast a friend whom thou fully trustest, and from whom
thou would'st good derive, thou should'st blend thy mind with his, and
gifts exchange, and often go to see him." ....................#44 Havamal


"But of him yet further, whom thou little trustest, and thou suspectest
his affection; before him thou shouldest laugh, and contrary to thy
thoughts speak; requital should the gift resemble." ......#46 Havamal


By the late 60's Americans were quickly waking up to the rampant corruption in the U.S. government. Organizations such as the John Birch Society would tease inquiring minds with just enough expos'e of the root of the problem but like any typical conservative operation they would be scared spitless if it came to making a real stand on any vital issue. The conservatives as the name implies are never for radical change but merely want to 'conserve what is' and stay comfortable. Most Aryan Americans of the 60's were not yet quite ready for the shock factor Hollywood Nazi's commanded by the highly capable leader George Lincoln Rockwell nor the hooded Klu Klux Klan image that had developed out of the old South. In the 60's the boiler was still in the process of heating up to fever pitch. People were in the dark on many critical issues and at times it all seemed too overwhelming to assimilate. After the Kennedy assassination the U.S. Government had clearly exposed its dark side. The bogus Viet Nam war was tearing the very fiber of America apart at the seams. From the ruthless power crazed Lyndon B. Johnson to the basket case Tricky Dick Nixon, the bubble of the American dream ideal was bursting into smithereenes.

The Hippies made a futal attempt to put a bandaid on the insanity with the peace and love anti-war flower power approach which died almost as quickly as it got started. The Manson Family butcheries brought reality back like a dash of cold water in the face of everyone. American youth came to realize in short order that peace and love in America in 1969 didn't cut it, and Woodstock would not be the harbinger of a new beginning but of a sorry and pityful end. The Aryan Americans who had built this nation were being sold out in Viet Nam, sold out of their country and future and sold out as a race. By the early 1970's with our humiliating defeat in Viet Nam and the disgrace of Watergate, anyone with eyes to see, knew that the U.S. Government had its own agenda and no longer represented the interest of the people ..........Aryan America had become, A NATION BETRAYED! We had fast become unconscious pawns of The Power Elite.

It was in the early 70's that more and more Aryans began to take race survival seriously as the grim S.O.S. of our sinking ship was in the air. For myself, I knew at that time my previous interest in world politics was not so profound a concern as that of the survival and overall welfare of my race and heritage. I felt a comforting sense of comraderie in those days within what we referred to as the White Power Movement. Being very idealistic it took me longer than it should have to realize that many of the movement people that I referred to as kinsmen were not always so much more honorable than those outside the movement and just as much a cancer to our cause as our race enemies. It was not only at the fellow kinsman level, many of the movement leaders could be every bit as phoney and untrustful. Always ready to assume the best in people I learned my lesson in human nature the hard way. Julius Caesar, if he were alive today, would be the first to tell you that those closest to you are very likely at times to be the first to stab you in the back at the most unexpecting moment. Caesar trusted Brutus more than anyone else and even willed all of his earthly belongings to him as if he were his own son. Brutus as we know, helped form a plot to assassinate Caesar. What many may not know is that when they stabbed Caesar on thwe steps of the Senate, the worst stab of all was from Brutus, his most trusted friend, who stabbed him in the groin.

There is a basic human compunction in all of us to let our guard down at times and to open up to someone whom we feel we can trust. Trust, after all is the foundation upon which friendships, familys, communities, corporations and surely civilizations are built upon and one of the higher virtues. When trust is gone the entire structure crumbles.

In the days of the Vikings a deal was sealed between two men by the slapping of hands and was as good as any written contract. To violate such a deal would be to carry a millstone of shame around your neck for the rest of your life.

A very obvious earmark of the typical con-artist is that they usually pop up out of nowhere with lots of high talk about themselves, not unlike the salesman who will say anything to gain your instant confidence. A con-artist most often has no long time friends to speak of and usually not well liked among his extended family. When a person is fooled by a con-artist the first reaction is anger at yourself for letting yourself be fooled and taken in. However, a short glance through the pages of history will reveal that the best of the best can be fooled. Many of the greatest men and women to ever walk this earth have been greatly deceived at one time or another. That very moment that you think you can never be fooled again you are wide open for the master con-artist, because deceit is their way of life and the harder the target the greater the challenge for them to pursue.

David Lane, well known for his activism in the Aryan cause had been a fellow friend and kinsman of mine for over a span of three decades. We had long shared an avid commitment to our race and heritage as well as an equal interest in the ancient mysteries and had become Wotanist's at the same time which became another equally shared passion. David had met a woman in the mid 90's named Katja who came out of the Christian Identity circles and virtually unknown to the national White Power Movement. Living in a rural home with her five kids in the mountains of Idaho after she and her only husband had divorced, she convinced David that she was head over heels about him and had grand ideas to help David in his work. To gain instant credibility in the Aryan movement she concocted the false tale that she was legally married to David. Such was never the case but her ruse worked as she knew it would. David, with a 190 year sentence in prison wanted nothing more than to have a family even if only idealisticly, so he let her run with the lie at her bull headed insistance that she was his real and true loving wife. Katja possessed a high I.Q. and fluent in six languages and David was extremely excited about the potential that they could share working together for our Aryan cause.

David called me one day and asked if I would meet with Katja in Idaho at a gathering there which I did. Later on a return trip to Idaho he asked if I could stop off at her place and visit with her kids and look over the situation. I made the trip over there with a fellow kinsman and just two hours before we arrived, Katja had been arrested for flashing a gun in a neighbors face over a boundry dispute. I ended up staying there several days until she was released from jail, otherwise her children would have had to be taken under police custody as well. David of course was frantic and pleaded with me to move in with her and the family there and not only provide protection but the three of us could establish the 14 Word Press in a big way and I could merge my Wotansvolk work into the business as well.

It all seemed like an ideal situation and I made arrangements to move there a couple weeks later. Everything with the 14 Word Press operation did work out as we had hoped it would and it was an instant success and vital addition to the Aryan movement. There still was the legal problems concerning Katja's various court cases which required five different lawyers. The lawyers were draining our profits as fast as we could earn them and when it finally ended it all totaled up in excess of 100,000 dollars.

I had my own court case going at that time concerning a construction accident that badly injured my leg back in 1993 and eventually won that law suit and was granted 60,000 of which 30,000 of that I was able to invest towards having my two books printed, "Creed of Iron" and "Temple of Wotan" along with David's book, "Deceived Damed And Defiant" as well as the book, "Might Is Right". That order brought a total of 13 tons of books with a net value of 500,000 dollars. The books and my handmade Euro-ethnic merchandise were greatly needed and highly sought after in the Wotanist circles and soon I was able to pay off Katja's lawyers and save her house and property and start to produce and distribute the many items that were sorely needed for practicing Wotanist's. I finished the construction on Katja's house inside and out and developed her property, built a Viking Hof and Blacksmith shop and made highly efficiant offices for both of us to do our work.

Just when everything was going full steam, Katja came to me one day and said she was dumping David over ongoing differences that they had. Little did I know that she had the same plan for me the following week. She came down to my office one morning and said,"I think it is time for you to leave now." I could not fathom how she could surgicly extract both of us so suddenly from her life after what all three of us had worked so diligently to build. Later I was to find out that she had a secret business partner and lover, an astrologist who lived in Germany whom she had met on the internet.

I made arrangements to move out and leave behind that six year chapter of my life and chalk it up to a very costly bad mistake but the biggest shock was still in store. Just as I had cleared out all of my belongings and had the U-Haul loaded up I asked her how she intended to handle the profits between us for my books. She then told me that she would sell the books to me at wholesale. I said, wait a minute! I already paid for those books out of my own pocket! Your telling me you expect me to pay for them again?! Her responce was, "I think it is time for you to leave now" and shut the door. I could not believe what I was hearing from this woman whom I had given total trust, that I had given so much and done so much to make a comfortable life for her and her kids. Katja was virtually pennyless when I first went there even though she still owned 60 acres and a shell of a house that she had managed to obtain from the husband of her children. Now she had all her lawyers paid off, her house completed and thousands of dollars in the bank and better yet, books that she could live off of financially for years to come! Just one year before I left there she had aggrivated her husband to the brink of depression to where he finally blew his brains out with a 357 Magnum. Now I was learning first hand what people ment when they referred to certain woman as 'Black Widows'. It was easier for David to pick up and move on by that point in their relationship but for myself, I had lost an entire inventory of very valuable merchandise and having just passed the age 50 mark at that time it would not be an easy matter to build such an operation over again without the necessary seed money I had at my disposal earlier to build the 14 Word Press. Betrayal is a real bitch as they say, and so true that is!

There was no possible way Katja could run the press herself so she was ready to sell it all for whatever she could get, to any taker available. Knowing what I know now from 20/20 hindsight it was all about money and noteriety to her from the very start. After making quite a mess of things with a few movement oppurtunists she settled on a guy who just happened to be a con artist equal to herself if not better. His name was John Post, a slickster extraordinaire, who had been released from prison not long before, for armed bank robbery, serving over ten years. He gave her his pitch that if he could load up his 23 foot U-haul truck with my books and merchandise he would give her a thousand dollars up front and pay her the remainder later. She bit, and he made off with the lions share of my books and never paid her or anybody, least of all myself a red cent.

John Post and his wife and partner in crime Monika, formed a bogus 14 Word Press and started selling off the stolen merch and raking in the cash. This same pseudo operation was to later become known as the NPKA (National Prisoner Kindred Alliance) or Wyrd's Way/ Himmingborg Press. After a couple years his deceitful ways of doing business and trying to portray himself as an Aryan activist, it all started to catch up with him. In that he was calling his bogus operation 14 Word Press and selling my books, products, artwork, articles and poetry most just assumed that he was connected with me and everything was cool. It was his deeds that got most people curious as to what was this guy all about. When the news media did an interview with the Post's he revealed that he really detested the Aryan movement an declaired that Wotanism was open to all races creeds and homosexuals as well. At the same time he had been ripping off scores of prisoners by taking their money while not sending them their merchandise orders. When he ripped off the Odinic Rite they filled charges against him and he was soon returned to Soledad Prison but released again after only a few months behind bars. He is currently back in operation again and in his new periodical titled "Whispers" he still expouses that Wotanism is open to all races creeds and homosexuals. His current catalog still lists my articles and he also is selling some of my remaining merchandise. This article has been circulating for several years now so that the majority of the people in our cause are aware of the situation. For those who are not yet informed be forwarned that neither Katja or John and Monika Post of Wyrd's Way in Napa Califoria are of our cause. They are Skraeling thieves and self seeking scamsters and should be avoided at all costs! To steal from and betray your own kinsmen is simply unforgivable, it is equal to a rat who would sell out his own kinsmen to save his worthless cowardly hide! Without a standard of trust within our cause we will never stand a chance in our battle for Aryan survival.

Another major con artist who came up from out of Christian Identity circles is Chris Temple. He was able to filtch over a million dollars from the savings of unsuspecting Kinsmen in our cause with his very slick get rich quick investment scam. He was eventually exposed, fined and sent to prison for his crime. The list of scamsters within our movement is certainly not limited to these few examples described. The point to be made here is that there are few people today that one can really and truely trust in any capacity or level of society. Many 'just men' sit in prisons while the worst of the worst thrive throughout our everyday world holding respectable positions. There are just souls and unjust souls and there really is no inbetween. You are either a just person or an unjust person. The unjust far exceed the just in all societies of the world. If you can find real trust in people in this life you have something worth more than gold. Trust can only begin within your own self through an instinctive self intuition process of right action and a man who is goverened by the higher ethics and not by his animal impulses, his selfish desires, his appetites, is free. The unjust view all of the just people as chumps and losers whom they can plunder at random with the advantage of impersonating a "just person" to achieve their purpose. Surely the scamsters can betray the the trust of the unsuspecting at times and even plunder their lives and possessions but they still cannot escape the reality of themselves and remain miserable wretches with no honor or respect for themselves or from anyone, least of all the gods of our folk. Justice is always the interest of the strong, whereas injustice exhibits a man's utter weakness for selfish, easy advantage and profit. Everything is eventually destroyed by its peculiar or connatural evil; the worst vices, injustice, intemperance and ignorance are the peculiar evils of the soul. Justice will always remain the supreme virtue, and any soul in which it truely dwells can always be trusted from any wrongdoing.

The lies I've heard, From friendly lips, Have been, My greatest teacher. They pour like honey, In the ear, From every, Two faced creature. There is no honor, For the man, When truth, His words betray, But liars think, They're clever chaps, In a self deceiving way. Some think it just, To breach ones trust, Forbearing, Rhyme or reason. And like, The lowest scallywag, View all, As open season. They con their family, Folk and friends, All dupes, They can control. Yes, a liar is, A worthless wretch, He's a man, Without a soul!


Katja and Family


Dave Eden Lane and Katja (Maddox) 'Lane'
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Update: Interesting conversation. Thanks for the support my friend, but did you have to choose a name so close to mine? I cannot register to give my point of view.
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Phenominal Graveland album by Robert Fudali/Darken from 2000 a.y.p.s. - 'Creed of Iron' sung in English (Polish lyrics/vocals version entitled "Prawo Stali" released in 2001) - was inspired by Wotansvolk book under the same title written by Ron McVan. (ref. 1, 2, 3, 4)



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