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Old Monday, May 9th, 2016   #11
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We don't need to demonstrate racial hierarchies. Who needs this? Liberals and equality rainbow lovers?
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Liberals would say the opposite.
Yup. They hate seeing terms like Congid and Mongolid. To them it's "Nazi science" from which modern society has progressed away. I think it's good that we show, front and centre, that here the "forbidden sciences" aren't dead. That we take physical anthropology serious as a science. If you're serious you're thorough and you lay out all the categories.

Besides, it can have street value. I've heard the following completely unscientific mantra being repeated by liberals: "race is only skin colour which is only the topmost layer of skin". We know this is obviously false, but the average person only knows enough about physical traits to counter with "but... uhm... skull shape!" This won't do. If people know more about the plethora of physical racial differences, they'd stand a better chance to own the conversation.
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We should be able to discuss other racial types as they are a presence in our countries and we need to learn who we're dealing with.

We should also be able to debunk the "race is myth" theory where liberals claim the only difference between us and them is skin/eye color.

That said, we don't necessarily need special forums for that. But having them organized doesn't do much harm either.

To appease both those who mind seeing them on the index and those who want them, a non-Europoid forum could be created and all these forums made into its sub-forums. Just like Nordid, Cromagnid, Alpinid etc. are sub-forums of the Europoid forum. Just my 2 Cents.
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I like reading the Anthropology forums, though I admit I'm such a novice that I just keep it to reading only. I think non-European ones should be kept to minimum and for comparison reasons only.

We should never lose site of the fact that Germanic is not a race, but a cultural, racial and language group of Indo-Europeans. None of the three are less important to one another in the big picture of things. Personally, I like reading the cultural forms and post, it is part of who we are and is also a part of where we are going. They also help establish thought patterns to the whole group.

While we all here might not all agree politically or any variety of subject matter each opinion is important if it benefits understanding who we are in relation to one another as Germanics as a whole group. Yes, it is important on family issues to what ever color of shoes you might wear and a whole host of other topics.

Even the original NationalSocialist valued cultural history as much as they did catering to their future ideas for Germany. Even I know that and it is one of the things I admire about them. They knew very well the importance of race and culture in their very existence as an identity.
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Yup. They hate seeing terms like Congid and Mongolid. To them it's "Nazi science" from which modern society has progressed away. I think it's good that we show, front and centre, that here the "forbidden sciences" aren't dead. That we take physical anthropology serious as a science. If you're serious you're thorough and you lay out all the categories.

Besides, it can have street value. I've heard the following completely unscientific mantra being repeated by liberals: "race is only skin colour which is only the topmost layer of skin". We know this is obviously false, but the average person only knows enough about physical traits to counter with "but... uhm... skull shape!" This won't do. If people know more about the plethora of physical racial differences, they'd stand a better chance to own the conversation.
These are the tactics of liberals:





They don't care about scientific explanations, they'll condemn racism and say they celebrate the differences (diversity) but then contradict themselves saying we're all one race or race doesn't exist.

Liberalism is a religion, they don't see the logical fallacies of their ideology and will just ignore anything that can deconstruct their mantras. It's much like explaining to a Christian it's impossible for a woman to be created out of a man's rib or for a serpent to speak. They'll ignore or come up with more excuses and accuse you of racism and intolerance.

Besides, since when do we care about what liberals think? I thought this forum was for Germanics interested in preservation of Germanic races. I don't understand this obsession with dedicating space to things which are alien to us.
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This has nothing to do with liberalism?
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I would motion to argue there are four major reasons why it's alright to have foreign Anthropology Forums flying around:

1) They are basically grandfathered. They have been around since the very early outset of the forum, and in the olden days Skadi was basically a temple of Phys. Anthropology. Much of the non-European Anthropology forums and/or classifications have more of a library or archive value than actual current importance. The library is vast, but the frequency with which new material is added and/or discussed is scarce enough to not take overhand.

2) To know who we are, we must also know who doesn't belong to us. This may seem like a no-brainer, and liberals won't be interested in our explanations, but to ourselves as preservationists, the question of "where do we come from?" is ultimately of much importance. As such, pointing out how and where we diverge from other races is important to those in the schooling.

3) Throughout time and age, most Physical Anthropologists have been Germanics. Whether it's Coon, Günther, von Eickstedt, Lundman - these were all good Germanic men and as such their work is very Germanic. As such, the legacy they may have with classifying races that are impertinent to Germanics as such should IMHO be viewed a bit like a painting of Cranach or Rembrandt which came from the brilliant mind and hand of a Germanic but might well depict the most Semitic view of Jesus possible.

4) Some topics work best when viewed as the large picture. For instance, it would be impossible to uphold a Philosophy forum whilst banning insights of Platon or Aristotle, who were all hardly Germanic, but whose thinking had some bearing upon Germanics as well. Likewise, SNPA always seemed a little incomplete to me because it initially only included the "Nordish" types but lacked the complete picture.

So as such, whilst I can totally understand where you are coming from, and certainly would motion that actual Taxonomical Classifications should be limited at least to Europeans lest in cases of extreme standing, and should certainly have Germanics prevail.
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Problem is European is not a race its just geography. Leila Pahlavi for example was Persian but would fit into Italy.

Seems theres little interest in classification threads. Maybe its for the best given its invitation to dox oneself. Classifying public figures though should be fine. Letting people post loved ones could be trouble.
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Europeans are a race according to Coon at least. Confusion comes when that race is extended eastward to the borders of China.
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Do you mean the way mixed people used to get lumped as whites?

As I see it Europe has a dual structure (technically triple) like Japan. The first wave of UP/Mesolithic survivors swept over by two waves of lepto-dolichocranials from the east.
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As I see it Europe has a dual structure (technically triple) like Japan. The first wave of UP/Mesolithic survivors swept over by two waves of lepto-dolichocranials from the east.
No, I mean the similarity between Europeans proper and Iraqis, Pakistanis, Afghans, etc. It is hard to separate them out from Europeans on a purely skeletal basis.
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