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Suggestions to Thwart Shilling Accounts?

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Suggestions to Thwart Shilling Accounts?


Post your ideas to help make forums, such as Skadi and others a shill-free zone. What can be done to improve Germanic/Anglo/Celtic positive reinforcement and negatively reinforce shill doctrine?

As we all know, spiders creep in and start promoting their own boring agenda, deriding traditions, spewing hate, promoting division and elevating the need for degeneracy, debt and debasement.

Their end goal is to prevent ‘groups’ of like-minded individuals from discussing ideas in open context. When great minds think alike, solutions can be found to all manner of ‘things’. However, it is the action of the shill to prevent polarization, to waste time and thwart honest efforts.

What are some of the ways we can clean up forums? 4chan’s POL has a hive-mindset, but even they are finding it difficult with the paid shills. With attackers ranging from outright stupid to mass-posting subtle infiltrators. Stupids are easy to dispose of as they generally violate Moderators rules.

What are some of the identifiable processes the shills use?

What are your recommendations to fix up the problem?

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Skadi is already the cleanest oasis of online discussion forums in the English language.

/pol/ is a gutter because it's on 4chan and because its format appeals to kids with ADD, not because of paid agents. There's no comparison between there and here. The only redeeming thing about it is that kids often start off there before finding their way here or to other high brow sites.
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Certain arguments people use are like a tell in poker. Ditto certain choices of words. And most of all certain hypocrisies. Ideologues are unaware of their inconsistencies.
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Analysing their attack patterns.

Just because, I'm sick of them & what they do. It's time to do a quick report. Feel free to add stuff, maybe we can get an Anti-Shill rule for forums. I don't particularly want to see good posters leave from frustration.


‘Shilling’ applies forum-centric, means and methods, to subvert collective knowledge in the desire of a foreign organisation to arrive at a ‘Negative Agenda*’ for ACG* (Anglo/Celtic/Germanic) persons and their foundation civilization. By frustrating the highly educated and persuading the under-educated, the shill is able to thwart any effort to gain crucial and factual information for an ACG Positive Agenda.

Negative Agenda: Genocidal actions to encourage psychological, mass self-suiciding behaviour by exploiting the unique neurological-behavioural patterns of ACG persons (Anglo/Celtic/Germanic).

The efforts of a shill are verified by having knowledgeable users permanently leave or their voice continually drowned out by tactics. This in turn degrades any forum to a shill-zone and unworthy of participation.

Some tactics are:
1. Repeated Counter-Intelligence.
2. Referential Linking to Falsified and Ego Planting Documentation.
3. Promotion of Negative Agenda Practices.
4. Derailing by Insertion. Derailing by Mass Insertion.
5. Deception by Omission.
6. Neglect of Immutable Evidence.
7. Forcing Antagonistic Behaviour. Harassment.
8. Obfuscation by all of the above.

Terminology for this exercise.

Negative Agenda Conclusive: The recognized, beyond all doubt, industrial, economic, sociological, governmental, humanistic "practices" that are counter to ACG persons.

A shill actively promotes ‘Negative Agenda Conclusive’ topics as though they are beneficial to ACG persons, when all valid knowledge indicates otherwise.

1. Repeated Counter Intelligence.

‘Continual and repeated ploys’ promoting counter-intel which flies in the face of known fact, reasonable thought or ultimately ‘proven’ doctrine. Promoting 'fraudulent news' that supports a ‘Negative Agenda’ being elevated to the status of fact. The anti-promotion of 'real news', known to be factual and proven, critical for our needs to be degenerated and dismissed as false where no ‘proof of validity’ is provided.

2. Referential Linking to Falsified and Ego Planting Documentation.

By providing hyperlinks to organisationally active, Negative Agenda documentation, the shill seeks to double-persuade audiences by relying on statuses of ‘verification by herd mentality’. These links are professionally made to enhance psychological manipulation of victims. They may often overload content, whereby deep study reveals nothing more than further obfuscation.

3. Promotion of Negative Agenda Practices.

Repeated encouragement of acts of cultural degeneracy that necessitates hatred, disgust and ambivalence of ACG people to one another and their foundation culture. To encourage breech of moral integrity for self-serving attitudes that parallel ‘sociopathic, parasitic natures’.

4. Derailing by Insertion. Derailing by Mass Insertion.

The act of inserting multiple, dysfunctional or distracting arguments which bare no contained importance to the central topic but only serve to derail and deviate off course, and thusly, to bury the core topic under mountains of verbal trash. Often the shill will allude to glorifying Negative Agenda practices during these insertions.

5. Deception by Omission.

By referencing known or respected data, studies or documentation, the shill will disregard specific content which is crucial to arriving at a sound conclusion. This persuasion technique is readily practiced by left-wing or Marxism centric groups. It is designed to trick the victim’s psychology by ‘verifying to a respected authority’.

9. Neglect of Immutable Evidence.

Where a shill has no room to turn on an ultimately proven concept, the shill will neglect the data or reasoning and attack users upon side issues. Thereby lengthening discussions into obscurity and irrelevance.

6. Forcing Antagonistic Behaviour. Harassment.

By failing to communicate intentions of good will, the shill will use ‘non-banning’ insults to frustrate the knowledgeable user. As the shill is paid to remove Positive Agenda people, this practice is regarded as fundamental to the shilling organisation. It has the net effect of poisoning a forum by removing heavy-weight, respected authorities.

7. Obfuscation by all of the above.

This is the general activity of the shill. By utilizing all of the above methods, the shill will control the forum by stealth. It will be regarded as unworthy to join and likewise of no use to highly informed people to stay.

Recognising shill behaviour.

Negative Agenda Conclusive, these are the core processes to which the shill alludes to, and elevates as ‘recommended’ for ACG persons. This could be regarded as an ‘Offensive’, 'Bannable' category to ACG positive forums.

For example, the shill may promote such topics as ‘positive for ACG persons’, being,

1. Fractional Reserve Banking, whereby counterfeiting profits are leeched from an economy to support a ‘foreign’ race or entity.
2. Supporting unlimited, mass immigration to promote the erasure of ACG people's culture, neurology and appearance. Promoting ‘diversity’ as the call-sign for this.
3. Unlimited vaccinations for children and adults that are laced with mercury neural toxin.
4. Unrestricted intake of understudied, DNA altering foodstuffs and chemicals.

To users, if you find them, please add more shill methods/techniques and shill Negative Agenda Conclusive topics.
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