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German Colonization Past and Future: The Truth About the German Colonies

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Old Friday, April 8th, 2016   #11
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Rhaegar Thorwald is noble of speech.Rhaegar Thorwald is noble of speech.

Of course they were brutal.

Let us not forget that they were dealing with Africans, and as anyone who has ever lived near a large population of them knows they are absolute savages.

The christians tried for centuries to civilize them to no avail.

Look at how quickly they ruined the once prosperous colonies they were left.

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Portraying German colonial rule as bad, and British, French, etc. colonial as benign and good,
They don't though, At school many times I was taught about the Evils of British colonialism.

From the slave trade and Indian Famines, to the Genocide of the Tasmanian Aboriginals and the 'disproportionate' (their words) responses to the Mau Mau Uprising and Morant Bay Rebellion.

The one constant was that Whites are evil oppressors.

They also use our colonial past as a reason why we should let millions of non-Whites into the country.

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Well I agree there is a bias, and why that bias is there. It doesn't really justify all the shit happened. I'm not interested in politics unless its metapolitics, I'm more interested in the historical facts and the historiography.

Ofc the facts are questionable in a lot of cases, Keith Windschuttle pretty much debunked what was written about the fate of the Tasmanians, after checing the sources. Though this is still a political issue down under, outside Australia its usually accepted now Windschuttle had exposed a selective abuse of sources and even in one instance a fabrication of source material that was subsequently repeated without criticism because people wanted to hear it. You mention the Mau Mau in Kenya, who spoke up for the Kenyans again?

Its never black and white.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnist...Mau-shame.html
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Rhaegar Thorwald is noble of speech.Rhaegar Thorwald is noble of speech.

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Says who?
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Some time ago I saw a German documentary about the German possessions in Africa and in it an African scholar explained how the Germans weren't less or more oppressive than other colonial powers, they were all about law and order. This approach had the benefit of clarity, it wasn't an arbitrary rule. The locals knew which lines they couldn't cross.
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Some time ago I saw a German documentary about the German possessions in Africa and in it an African scholar explained how the Germans weren't less or more oppressive than other colonial powers, they were all about law and order. This approach had the benefit of clarity, it wasn't an arbitrary rule. The locals knew which lines they couldn't cross.
Most negroes, African or otherwise, consider law and order to be "oppression."

You, know... normal everyday stuff...
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Some time ago I saw a German documentary about the German possessions in Africa and in it an African scholar explained how the Germans weren't less or more oppressive than other colonial powers, they were all about law and order. This approach had the benefit of clarity, it wasn't an arbitrary rule. The locals knew which lines they couldn't cross.
Oh yes, buuuuu....but official language is that us evil Germans brought nothing but misery and pain to Africa. Look how fugly the cities we founded still look today!















Swakopmund, formerly Deutsch Südwest-Afrika, now Namibia

How could we defile sub-Saharan Africa with such distasteful architecture?



People in Togo and Namibia still render homage to the German colonization once in a while. A funny documentation where Blacks praise their old German landlords. They will never ever gain such nice, beautiful and clean towns, never!
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Stalin makes an appearance as well in the segment about the happy future towards the end.

Fun quote: "These are the most dangerous... german youths! (..) Trained to win by cheating. Trained to pick on the weak. They've heard no free speeches, read no free press. They were brought up on straight propaganda. Production of the worst educational crime in the history of the world." (the irony), "Practically everything we believe in, they've been trained to hate and destroy."
By Odin's eye, I had no idea he actually said that. HAHAHAHA What a hypocrite. Killing off millions and causing massive famine and hunger, slaughtering those who could not keep up with the rest of the country and experimenting on those who were captured. The Soviets were even worse than the picture they painted of the western world.
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