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French Presidential Elections

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Old Monday, April 23rd, 2012   #11
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I'm sorry, but a loss is a loss.. it had to be a win.
I happen to agree with you here Huginn. However, it was never going to happen because, as Marine's father found out 10 years ago, the Establishment parties would have simply closed ranks and voted against her en bloc in the second round.

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I give Marine LePen a 50/50 chance of being assassinated by "accident" between now and then. These people are powerful, but they need time to weave their webs.. that's why blitzkrieg was such a powerful tactic... it gave them no time to act before they were defeated.
Well, Marine Le Pen didn't just appear overnight and had been building up momentum for some time so I don't think the 'Blitzkrieg' analogy fully applies. Believe me, they tried every trick in the book this time around but with very limited success! Like you say though, if she ever did become too popular then the forces concerned wouldn't hesitate to arrange an 'unfortunate accident' or trump up some spurious charges of wrongdoing in order to discredit her.

But anyway, I have no faith in 'democracy' whatsoever and when we do finally wrest back control of our own lands it will by force rather than by playing to the rules of a twisted system with its rigged ballot box. These elections, if they serve any purpose at all, at least give a rough indication of the sort of numbers we can count upon when the time comes
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I have no knowledge about how the French media has been handling this, but I've noticed a rather typical trend in the Dutch media in the period before the actual elections.
When the Front National was initially becoming more and more popular it received wide media attention. Yet as time passed by and elections weren't that far away anymore, the media focussed all its attention on Hollande and Sarkozy. Whereas in the beginning entire articles about the FN appeared in the papers, later on articles about the elections didn't even mention Le Pen, although polls indicated that she was a serious rival to the other candidates. This ignoring of the FN short before the elections gave people the impression that it was all about Hollande and Sarkozy. Consequently people will vote for one of those two canditates which they consider the least problematic. If the media in France applied the same strategy, it wouldn't surprise me that in this way they have succeeded in getting the FN to loose the first round. Nonetheless, their results are still impressing.
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There were all kinds of insidious attacks upon MLP during her campaign and (surprise, surprise! ) she became embroiled in a court battle with the Ecology Party candidate over some 'defamation' issue as voting day approached.

I remember how they did something similar with Nick Griffin of the BNP just days before the last UK elections, charging him with 'racism' so that he could be publicly vilified throughout the whole campaign, even though in the end he was acquitted!

And then there were the opinion polls (controlled by the Establishment, beyond any doubt!!!) which kept giving MLP scores in the lower teens and rarely above 15%, even though they knew full well her level of support was far higher. This was to discourage the public from voting for a 'no-hoper' and is one of the Establishment's favourite tricks at election times.

In fact, from rigging the opinion polls to rigging the actual election results themselves there isn't really a huge step to take, is there? ... hmm, it does make you wonder
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And then there were the opinion polls (controlled by the Establishment, beyond any doubt!!!) which kept giving MLP scores in the lower teens and rarely above 15%, even though they knew full well her level of support was far higher. This was to discourage the public from voting for a 'no-hoper' and is one of the Establishment's favourite tricks at election times.

In fact, from rigging the opinion polls to rigging the actual election results themselves there isn't really a huge step to take, is there? ... hmm, it does make you wonder
The thing about democracy that no one ever mentions is the power it has over the minds of the masses. Most people of average intelligence and non-skeptical nature really and truly believe that they have a voice in matters because they get to vote for the leaders who will (supposedly) represent them in government. When their candidate does not win, they are placated by the idea that more of the people thought the other guy should win, and it was a fair fight. But is this necessarily so?

I will tell you all exactly what the powers at the top of the pyramid think of democracy and voting. They love it, specifically because it pacifies the masses, and for no other reason. It is very important to people like the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers to be able to conduct their affairs without meddling from the proletariat or the petit-bourgeoisie. The sole purpose of politicians is to shield them from normal people, as lightning rods for criticism, and as masters-at-arms when they need real protection. For their services, politicians get to move their chessmen a little to the left or right, but are not allowed to shake up the order. This is how the elite see it, and it works for them because of the unchallenged perception of money in the civilized world. They legally control the money, and by doing so, they control everything else, including the core players in government bureaucracies (notably those famously powerful ones denoted by three letters) which remain as a constant no matter which politician occupies the office of state. Politicians or bureaucrats or media outlets or major corporations that do not assist them are deprived of financing, or are dealt with in other ways (whatever means necessary) to force compliance. If you want to see how things at the top work, watch The Godfather films, paint them with a veneer of old-money legitimacy and there you have it.
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