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View Poll Results: Is Christianity alien to Germanics?
Christianity is as alien to Germanics as Judaism and Islam. 184 41.26%
Christianity is alien in origin, but it is less alien than Judaism and Islam. 135 30.27%
Christianity is not alien to Germanics at all. 114 25.56%
Other (please explain). 13 2.91%
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Is Christianity Alien to Germanics?

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Old Sunday, April 22nd, 2012   #1181
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The slavianic Veda reports that an Aryan was sent to the Jews to free them from the fangs of a demon. They say his name was Radomir (Rado = Joy, Mir = Peace). So the teachings of Jeus/Radomir was intended for Jews and Jews only. They killed him, recognized the potential of his teaching to weaken their enemies, injected some more stuff and sent it back to Aryans.

That is one take on the Jeus story. I have no opinion on it until I studied it more deeply.
Interesting tale, got a link to any info online about it?
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"Is Christianity Alien to Germanics?"

alien: adj; Belonging to a foreign country or nation.

answer: Yes.

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"Is Christianity Alien to Germanics?"

alien: adj; Belonging to a foreign country or nation.

answer: Yes.

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That's not a very comprehensive answer. Why do you think this is so? Here are some reasons that I can think of off of the top of my head:

It places man outside of his own power, i.e. subject to the vague whims of an external deity and a rebellious devil. Man is, and always has been, his own master; Christianity teaches subservience.

It is impious, teaching what I see as a fradulent view of the divine and God.

It is denigrating to the nobility of man and the beauty of the world, suggesting a belief in a primeval episode of sin which casused an existential catastropher. My belief that man is progresses from lower to higher moral excellence under his own agency- not that of a deity or a savior.

It is a fearful religion and plays upon deep-seated fears in the human psyche (rejection, death, and so on).

It is inconsistent with its own source material (i.e. the Hebrew holy writings).

It denigrates women to some extent.

Etc.
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I was putting in my thoughts on the matter. As, many others before me and more intelligently than I, have expressed their own thoughts.

I agree, though, with your supplementary thoughts on the matter.
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That's not a very comprehensive answer. Why do you think this is so? Here are some reasons that I can think of off of the top of my head:

It places man outside of his own power, i.e. subject to the vague whims of an external deity and a rebellious devil. Man is, and always has been, his own master; Christianity teaches subservience.

It is impious, teaching what I see as a fradulent view of the divine and God.

It is denigrating to the nobility of man and the beauty of the world, suggesting a belief in a primeval episode of sin which casused an existential catastropher. My belief that man is progresses from lower to higher moral excellence under his own agency- not that of a deity or a savior.

It is a fearful religion and plays upon deep-seated fears in the human psyche (rejection, death, and so on).

It is inconsistent with its own source material (i.e. the Hebrew holy writings).

It denigrates women to some extent.

Etc.
In 1851 the New York spiritualist Andrew Jackson Davis, committed to similar reason, published his Spiritual Declaration of Independence in severance to all religion alien and contradictory to Nature's principle laws.

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And we, likewise, hold it to be self-evident, that Nature is the only perfect and unalienable “Revelation” which the Deity has ever given, or ever will give, to mankind. By Nature, we apprehend the Material Universe, with its innumerable constellations of Suns, Planets, and Satellites; and the Spiritual Universe, with its innumerable spheres of loveliness, and with their multitudinous angelic and seraphic inhabitants. It embraces the stupendous Univercoelum! which comprehends the kingdoms beneath, the powers within, and the boundless firmaments above us. We believe Nature to be the universal exponent of God; and Reason to be the universal exponent of Nature; therefore, that Nature and Reason, combined, constitute the only true and reliable standard of judgment upon all subjects—whether social, political, philosophical or religious—which may come within the scope and investigations of the human mind.

Furthermore, we hold it to be the nature, and tendency, and divine prerogative of the human soul to explore, to investigate, to classify, and reduce to a practical application, every thought and principle, and science, and philosophy, and religion, which rests upon the everlasting foundations of the Universe; and likewise, that it is man’s nature and prerogative to candidly, freely, and fearlessly—with an eye, single to truth—examine all sciences, and discoveries, and mythologies, and theologies, and religions which have been, or may be, developed among men; and that if they do not accord with the immutable principles of Nature and Reason, it is his divine right and authority to openly expose, repudiate, and discard them.
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I was putting in my thoughts on the matter. As, many others before me and more intelligently than I, have expressed their own thoughts.

I agree, though, with your supplementary thoughts on the matter.
Even a mildly rational mind rebels at some of the notions of Christianity; it doesn't take a scholar or rhetorician to find at least something that is repulsive about it. The good aspects of Christianity are its universal aspects, i.e. charity, prohibition of murder, and so forth, and ought not to be the focus of too much attention. Even primitive tribes operate by some sort of natural morality.
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In 1851 the New York spiritualist Andrew Jackson Davis, committed to similar reason, published his Spiritual Declaration of Independence in severance to all religion alien and contradictory to Nature's principle laws.
Rather akin to, say, Pope's Universal Prayer imo, at least in that it suggests a more humanistic view of the divine.
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In my personal opinion, yes. With that said, I support several racially conscious Christian organizations such as Aryan Nations and the Klu Klux Klan. Ultimately, I think we should focus on the REAL threats facing our folk, such as Judaism, Islam, humanism, and liberalism. If there is any threat from Christianity, it is the frighteningly powerful influence of the Christian Zionists, such as John Hagee, Pat Robertson, Glenn Beck, Michelle Bachmann, Jerry Falwell, and Hal Lindsey.
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Yes its ok to support them to an extent, but one must remember that alot of these movements are formed from the same religious ideologies as the CZ's most of the time, they just fall on different sides of the fence. That is why Christianity is a dangerous and destructive force for our race.
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Germanic Paganism as we know it was dominant in North West Europe for about 2100 years prior to Christianity.
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