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|Thursday, March 24th, 2011||#22|
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Ancestry: Frankish, Langobard, Scots, Norman, Goth, Bretagne, Bavarian, English.
Country: United States
Family: Happily married
Great information about the Lombards, when I have time, I'll try and get the time sequences for these maps (I have that information somewhere).
The Lombards arose very early, in my view, and at a time when PIE was a more unified language. Some features of their culture go back to Hallstat (proto-Celtic) times - and it's interesting to see them wearing a helmet shaped associated with southern Pontic peoples (whom they surely encountered). The helmet shape appears very early indeed in the southern Pontic (which is the direction from which metallurgy is arriving in Europe).
They certainly were a flexible people who did lots of scouting, negotiating and planning as they moved their territory (eventually) into Italy (although many remained behind). They are probably the main vector by which blue eyes arrive in northern Italy.
I love Lombardian prehistory and history (I have several Lombardian ancestors). They quickly formed alliances with the Spoleto folks of Italy - which makes me wonder if culturally, the Spoletos were not themselves more influenced by northern culture than the rest of Italy.
|Sunday, April 8th, 2012||#23|
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Ancestry: Saxon, Frisian, East Prussian, Silesian
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I may add that it is claimed, and most likely, that the town name "Bardowick" (also "Bardengau") in north Germany derives from the Longobardian tribe. Also some of the Longobardians did not leave the north German plane and merged with the Saxon, what leads to the suggestion that some north Italian Lombards may have some really far relatives in north Germany. Just a little curiosity.
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