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These racial classifications are pretty crappy, but the celebrity lookalike thing really seems to work pretty well most of the time.

I wonder what this site looks at. Sun tanning seems to make a big difference in classifications. What about hairstyle? Smiling leads to Asian classifications.

What seems very consistent is...

Maybe he just got fat and grew a beard.

As for his alleged non-white mixture. If he wasn't known to be Jewish, I doubt anyone would compare him to an Ethiopian. He doesn't look at all Orientalid...

Come on, it's Karl Marx! :D

Again, he looks basically Alpinid to me. That's a type of "Caucasian" to use rather clumsy popularized terms.

He was called "The Moor" by his children due to his dark pigmentation. His big bushy beard makes his face difficult to see.

There is a strong robust element there, maybe Alpinid modified by a...

I am skimming through the chapter on Asia in the pop-sci book "Mapping Human History" by Olson.

Here's a basic outline:

80-65 kya: Humans leave NE Africa and migrate east along...

The problem here is that Asia is a huge landmass, much larger than Europe. Simple designations such as "Asiatic" or even "Paleoasiatic" might mask a wide range of diversity within the group. "Sinid"...

So maybe the "Mongoloid" types originated in the East Asian Core popuation that the craniometric article refers to. In this case, I think Sinid would be a better, more geographically specific name....

A problem with genetic studies is the paucity of data, and even data gathering methods. It would be much better (and more scientifically rigorous) if we sampled and classified individuals based on...

Here are two crucial articles:

Old World sources of the first New World human inhabitants: A comparative craniofacial view:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=55570...

Yes, Howell's data is available here:
http://konig.la.utk.edu/howells.htm

Here is a map representing the results of Dienekes Pontikos' K-clustering analysis of 28 ethnic populations around the world into based on affinity to 14 mathematically determined clusters.

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I found this on "Hispano Mundo"
http://www.hispanomundo.com/Argentina.htm

The People

The first people to live in what is now Argentina were American Indians. The most...

Right, Argentines are mostly Spanish and Italian, and the ones I've met look completely Southern European. They are on the flatlands, which were not very populated by Amerinds when Columbus arrived.

It is only a matter of time before someone exploits the market demand for this kind of mutation. It could be useful for vanity reasons (many parents would want a son the size of Arnold...

Right - it all depends on which genes the person got. The traits that people look for to determine phenotype are possibly only a small subset of all genetic material IMO. It's also possible that...

Vitor, I agree with what you are saying and appreciate the wealth of information you have posted. The reason I argue is that my point in this thread is that the Nazi-derived idea of a "pure Nordic"...

Vitor, you make some incidental good points but your overall argument is flawed. Y Chromosome is not representative of a population's genome. It's a marker that is very sensitive to founder effects...

My mistake. I meant to say, Spain has the highest diversity of many of these genes. It does not currently have the highest frequency. My original bolded statement is correct: Spain was an important...

Unfortunately, they were wiped out with a few survivors scattered to the north (in Canada) and in reservations in the West - and as minor admixture in Scots-Irish "Rednecks."

I just read a book (pop-sci, "Mapping Human History" - so not as good as e.g. "Human Evolutionary Genetics" by Jobling et al) that described the W European Mesolithic as contemporary with the...

The white parts on the map represent incomplete data. Some regions had detailed typing of IE populations into Nordic/Med/Indic/Iranic, and some simply had the basic continental racial types (IE/East...

This might be accurate.

I'd like to know more about the cranial morphology of the Gravettians.

The topic of this thread is Cromagnons, not modern Iberians. None of the faces Vitor posted resemble the Cromagnon skull.

Iberians (and British) populations, like all European populations,...

IMO yes. And these types of features: the high cheekbones, wide jaw, square face, smaller eyes, are what Southern Europeans tend to focus on when distinguishing Northern European types from...