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    Re: Correlating genetic data with Euro phenotypes

    Ok, the second graph is my work.

    Why can't you see the German dots? They are light blue. Interestingly, one German is way down south....Turkish influence?

    Anyway, yes, I guess you could say...
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    Correlating genetic data with Euro phenotypes

    Here we have a map of European genetic clusters from another thread.

    http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2451/eurodnank8.jpg

    Because this map is based on 10,000 markers, that come from both...
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    Re: European (and world) genetic stratification

    Interesting though that even the Irish show smal traces of Altaic admxiture. All the northern Europeans do. Maybe it's genetic drift?
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    European (and world) genetic stratification

    P.S. No East Asian or Altaic admixture worth mentioning in Poles. In Finns yes...

    http://bp2.blogger.com/_Ish7688voT0/RcuktisjfVI/AAAAAAAAAAk/szDKFqYapMs/s1600-h/structure.jpg



    Dienekes'...
  5. Re: Autosomal DNA affiliations of various populations

    Honestly, people really need to get over the Y-chromosome charts. They're simple to understand, but aren't really very informative. Their scope is limited to the paternal side and only one marker.
  6. Re: Autosomal DNA affiliations of various populations

    No, this test is not sex biased.

    The 26 markers come from both parents. So it reflects Y-chromosome data to an extent, but not fully.

    R1b is not seen in Southeast Poland at 38.5%.

    The more...
  7. Autosomal DNA affiliations of various populations

    This is a lot more detailed than Y-chromosome studies, because it takes into account multiple markers and reflects the genes from both parents.

    If you want to see more samples, and a explination...
  8. More than 100,000 British migrated to Poland between 1550 and 1850

    Some sources extimate that more than 100,000 British migrated to Poland between 1550 and 1850. Most of these people were Scots and Scots/Irish. I was prompted to start this thread by new info that...
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    Re: Russian alcoholism and the "Mongoloid gene"

    Scandinavians have a higher rate of this gene than Russians. Does that make Scandinavians even more Mongoloid than Russinas?
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    Re: Poles soon to outnumber Irishmen in Britain

    Unfortunately, and I say this as a Pole, we don't seem to hold on to our ways in Anglo-Saxon countries too long. By second, third generation, Poles no longer speak Polish at home, or even at all, and...
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    Re: Poles soon to outnumber Irishmen in Britain

    You seem to be a bit mixed up there. The changes were much more rapid, extreme and even violent in former times.

    Britain went from being Celtic, to Roman, to Saxon very quickly. Then came the...
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    This story is utter garbage. It's just another...

    This story is utter garbage. It's just another example of the usless nature of the British press. I have no idea how anyone can hold them up as a reliable source.

    It reminds of stories circulated...
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    The Vikings were not giants. In fact, they...

    The Vikings were not giants. In fact, they averaged about 5'6" or 5'7" based on their bones.

    Also, we know that many of the Vikings who raided the British Isles carried the haplogorup R1a. The...
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    Re: Mongol Admixture in Ukraine

    Well, it seems that many people think these skulls come from a sub-race with pseudo Mongoloid characteristics. However, these skulls actaully come from individuals from the wider north-eastern...
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    Re: Mongol Admixture in Ukraine

    Well yeah, that's true. But the way Coon explained the origin of this group of people was flawed. That's why I'm against the use of the term. It doesn't mean anything.
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    Re: Mongol Admixture in Ukraine

    My point is that the Ladogan type as per Coon did not exist. It's now clear that the skulls found that were thought to be Ladogan were actually within the range of Northeast European Cro-Magnids.
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    Re: Mongol Admixture in Ukraine

    Sounds like a name from former eastern Polish lands. Most likely from Belorussia. One of your ancestors could be of Tatar origin with a name like that.

    However, in terms of genetics and phenotype...
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    Re: Mongol Admixture in Ukraine

    Don't see much of a link between Yaver and Avar. The name was probably Jawernicki, but I don't see any real link in Polish between Jawer and Avar. Moreover, all Lithuanian and Belorussian Tatar names...
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    Re: Mongol Admixture in Ukraine

    There's actually no proof that there was anything like the Ladogan type. This was one of Coon's many mistakes.
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    Re: Mongol Admixture in Ukraine

    In Poland anyone who looks a little "funny" is automatically thought to have Tatar blood.

    Most Poles, even university educated historians, have little clue about the Finno-Ugric influence on...
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    Re: Eastern Europe..

    In Poland anyone who looks a little "funny" is automatically thought to have Tatar blood.

    Most Poles, even university educated historians, have little clue about the Finno-Ugric influence on...
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    Re: North/South genetic divide in Europe

    Again, let me reiterate, past studies based on one marker on the Y-chromosome have found an East-West split in Europe (such as R1b in west, R1a in east).

    However, this is a brand new test that...
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    Re: North/South genetic divide in Europe

    My 2 cents on the Spanish/Italian thing...

    I think that this test looks for northern European influence versus southern European. For us to work out native Central European influence we'd need to...
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    Re: North/South genetic divide in Europe

    This is an autosomal study that looks at hundreds of SNP markers. Compare that to past studies that looked at just one marker on the Y-chromosome.
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    Re: North/South genetic divide in Europe

    From reading this study it seems to me that they took the ancestry of their subjects very seriously indeed.
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