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Evolved
Wednesday, March 12th, 2003, 08:41 PM
Arkady Malcev (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Arkady%20Malcev.jpg)

A Czech man (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Czech1.jpg)

Daniil Yurchuk, Ukrainian (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Daniil%20Yurchuk.jpg)
(For the ladies..) x_love

A Polish girl (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Fpoland1.JPG)
(For the guys..) :ultrawink

Konstantin, another Russian guy (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Konstantin.jpg)

Russian lady 1 (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Lady1.jpg)

Russian lady 2 (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Lady2.jpg)

Maciej, a Polish guy (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Maciej%20Poland.jpg)

Maria, a Polish girl (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Maria%20Poland.jpg)

Mihail, Russian (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Mihail.jpg)

Roman, a Russian man (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Roman.jpg)

Azdaja
Wednesday, March 12th, 2003, 08:55 PM
I'll give my impersonation of 'certain people', and the way in which they'll respond to this thread:

1:
::twirls hair with forefinger while chewing gum and staring vacantly into space::
So like, ohmagod! Slavs are so totally like NOT aryan. They're like, mongoloid an' stuff, ya' know? And like East Baltics are like TOTALLY short and fat. And I'm like...not short and fat, so I'm totally like not East Baltic. What....evah'!

2:
SLAVS MUST PROVE SELVES TO NORDICS OR THEY MUST DIE!!!1!1!!1!!! NORDICS R SMARTS AND SLAVS R DUM!!! ME NO LIKE PICTURES OF SUBHUMANS ON BOARD!
ME ANGRY!
ME SMASH!!!!!!

Allenson
Wednesday, March 12th, 2003, 08:56 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ladygoeth33
[B][
A Czech man (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Czech1.jpg)

This guy is Nordic as hell.





A Polish girl (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Fpoland1.JPG)
(For the guys..) :ultrawink


Very nice! I'd swap genes with this Nordic Pole in a heartbeat. Thanks for this one! :)

Ominous Lord Spoonblade
Wednesday, March 12th, 2003, 09:01 PM
Lots of good looking guys in that bunch :D I think you did a good job of picking out typical Slavs.....ah well, of course I would admire this, I am a little Polish girl who has a special spot in her heart for Slavic people and culture x_blush

hmm I wonder who you were impersonating, Nordidu.

Azdaja
Wednesday, March 12th, 2003, 09:12 PM
<< hmm I wonder who you were impersonating, Nordidu. >>

Oh, no one in particular. But now that I think about it, wouldn't it really suck if 2 people THAT stupid actually existed? God, imagine what would happen if they met and had children? Those kids would give a whole new meaning to the phrase "dumb blond".

Stríbog
Wednesday, March 12th, 2003, 09:19 PM
Hey now, no knocking the blondes. Besides, the purely hypothetical people in question would both be brown-haired, despite their claims to the contrary. Interesting that such people would call Neo-Danubians fairer than they are "Mongoloid." x_p

Ederico
Wednesday, March 12th, 2003, 09:22 PM
Yes you are an idiot Nordidu, lol, never offend blondes! Or I get offended, and in a fit of rage I would kill you!

Azdaja
Wednesday, March 12th, 2003, 09:24 PM
<< Yes you are an idiot Nordidu, lol, never offend blondes! Or I get offended, and in a fit of rage I would kill you! >>

How about first all you "proud blondes" learn how to walk and chew gum at the same time. Then worry about killing me. lol

Ederico
Wednesday, March 12th, 2003, 09:26 PM
I can walk and chew gum at the same time, isn't that impressive!

EDIT: I do not really like gum though.

Azdaja
Wednesday, March 12th, 2003, 09:28 PM
<< I can walk and chew gum at the same time, isn't that impressive! >>

Yes. Would you like a cookie?

Ederico
Wednesday, March 12th, 2003, 09:30 PM
No, I already took three, and I am avoiding them.

LET'S KEEP THIS THREAD ON-TOPIC, IT IS ABOUT TYPICAL SLAVS.

Evolved
Wednesday, March 12th, 2003, 11:37 PM
Here's a typical Ukrainian girl, as I've seen them. Brunet, light skin, and fully Caucasoid. :D

Evolved
Thursday, March 13th, 2003, 12:47 AM
Here's a South Slav, who is Dinaric. He's Goran Visnjic, a Serbian. (his family is Serbian anyway, he's a Croatian, there really is no difference they're the same people basically)

http://gvsite.com/media/gallery/

Maybe he's Noric? I like him a little. :)

Evolved
Thursday, March 13th, 2003, 02:33 AM
Is it Fran Dresher and the Incredible Hulk?

Originally posted by Nordidu
I'll give my impersonation of 'certain people', and the way in which they'll respond to this thread:

Conquistador
Thursday, March 13th, 2003, 02:46 AM
Originally posted by Nordidu
I'll give my impersonation of 'certain people', and the way in which they'll respond to this thread:

1:
::twirls hair with forefinger while chewing gum and staring vacantly into space::
So like, ohmagod! Slavs are so totally like NOT aryan. They're like, mongoloid an' stuff, ya' know? And like East Baltics are like TOTALLY short and fat. And I'm like...not short and fat, so I'm totally like not East Baltic. What....evah'!

2:
SLAVS MUST PROVE SELVES TO NORDICS OR THEY MUST DIE!!!1!1!!1!!! NORDICS R SMARTS AND SLAVS R DUM!!! ME NO LIKE PICTURES OF SUBHUMANS ON BOARD!
ME ANGRY!
ME SMASH!!!!!!

Making fun of two 'certain' Germanic moderators is not very smart if you know what I mean, unless you're itching to be banned. :erm

Disclaimer: I am not Anti-Slavic, despite what a 'certain Noric' thinks I am.

cosmocreator
Thursday, March 13th, 2003, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by dalonord


A Czech man (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Czech1.jpg)

This guy is Nordic as hell.


Or maybe Battle Axe.


A Polish girl (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Fpoland1.JPG)
(For the guys..) :ultrawink


Very nice! I'd swap genes with this Nordic Pole in a heartbeat. Thanks for this one! :)

How do you know she's Nordic? You can only see her profile.

Allenson
Thursday, March 13th, 2003, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by ns1488ca
[How do you know she's Nordic? You can only see her profile. [/B]


To me, profiles tell a very good anthropological story. I suppose if we saw a frontal her face might be wide...as in a Baltic type, but I've got a hunch that it's not. Nasal profile is very telling to me...and hers is quite straight.

Why? Do you think she's something but a Nordic?

svarog
Thursday, March 13th, 2003, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by Nordidu
I'll give my impersonation of 'certain people', and the way in which they'll respond to this thread:

1:
::twirls hair with forefinger while chewing gum and staring vacantly into space::
So like, ohmagod! Slavs are so totally like NOT aryan. They're like, mongoloid an' stuff, ya' know? And like East Baltics are like TOTALLY short and fat. And I'm like...not short and fat, so I'm totally like not East Baltic. What....evah'!

2:
SLAVS MUST PROVE SELVES TO NORDICS OR THEY MUST DIE!!!1!1!!1!!! NORDICS R SMARTS AND SLAVS R DUM!!! ME NO LIKE PICTURES OF SUBHUMANS ON BOARD!
ME ANGRY!
ME SMASH!!!!!!


LOL!! x_hehe x_rofl

good job!!

Conquistador
Thursday, March 13th, 2003, 11:25 PM
I'm wondering why those 'certain people' in question haven't responded yet, unless they're willing to expose themselves, eventhough we know who "they" already are. x_hehe

Tore
Friday, March 14th, 2003, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by Nordidu
I'll give my impersonation of 'certain people', and the way in which they'll respond to this thread:

1:
::twirls hair with forefinger while chewing gum and staring vacantly into space::
So like, ohmagod! Slavs are so totally like NOT aryan. They're like, mongoloid an' stuff, ya' know? And like East Baltics are like TOTALLY short and fat. And I'm like...not short and fat, so I'm totally like not East Baltic. What....evah'!

2:
SLAVS MUST PROVE SELVES TO NORDICS OR THEY MUST DIE!!!1!1!!1!!! NORDICS R SMARTS AND SLAVS R DUM!!! ME NO LIKE PICTURES OF SUBHUMANS ON BOARD!
ME ANGRY!
ME SMASH!!!!!!

LMFWAO!!!!

Glenlivet
Saturday, March 15th, 2003, 06:19 PM
They are all nice. Thanks for all the types you showed so we can see how Slavs can look.

The Czech man got an impressive look. He look like a Phalian Nordic in that picture. Send him to Germany :-).

The Polish girl got a somewhat Nordic nose going by the profile and very light hair hair, so she could be Nordic. A frontal picture is needed too.

I guess the Czechs and Poles have more "acceptable" types from a Nordic viewpoint.



Originally posted by ladygoeth33
Arkady Malcev (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Arkady%20Malcev.jpg)

A Czech man (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Czech1.jpg)

Daniil Yurchuk, Ukrainian (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Daniil%20Yurchuk.jpg)
(For the ladies..) x_love

A Polish girl (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Fpoland1.JPG)
(For the guys..) :ultrawink

Konstantin, another Russian guy (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Konstantin.jpg)

Russian lady 1 (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Lady1.jpg)

Russian lady 2 (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Lady2.jpg)

Maciej, a Polish guy (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Maciej%20Poland.jpg)

Maria, a Polish girl (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Maria%20Poland.jpg)

Mihail, Russian (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Mihail.jpg)

Roman, a Russian man (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racial_studies/files/Typical%20Slavs/Roman.jpg)

Tore
Saturday, March 15th, 2003, 07:01 PM
A frontal picture is needed too.

Indeed!!

x_love

Demigorgona
Saturday, March 15th, 2003, 08:17 PM
Try not posting pictures of Nordish types as 'slavic' ...there are nordics in slavic states. Just because they live in poland doesn't mean that they are slavic. Just because they live in Russia doesn't mean they are slavic. That is like saying that everyone in England is Anglo-saxon.

Stop with your fucking pro-slavic, anti nordic bullshyte. You can't post Nordish types and call them slavic.


Here are your typical Slavs...

Russia
http://www4.stormfront.org/whitehistory/ebracegal1_files/133.jpg

Russia
http://www4.stormfront.org/whitehistory/ebracegal2_files/139.jpg

Czech
http://www4.stormfront.org/whitehistory/aracegal_files/107.jpg

Ukraine
http://www4.stormfront.org/whitehistory/aracegal_files/111a.jpg

http://www4.stormfront.org/whitehistory/aracegal_files/111b.jpg

Ominous Lord Spoonblade
Saturday, March 15th, 2003, 09:07 PM
Actually, you CAN post nordish types AND call them Slavic. Slavic is a linguistic and cultural term first of all, it just so happens that the average Slav looks more "nordish" than some people, like you apparently, want to admit (for reasons no one knows why, maybe to suck up to dead Hitler or something :rolleyes: )

The average Slav does not look like that bizarre looking "Ukrainian", or in fact really any of those examples you posted, except for maybe the second one (whether they are nordish or not). Have you ever seen any Slavic people? These extreme examples I find are not really good for anything. That Czech man looks about how every round-headed European man looked around that time when those mustaches were popular x_p

So if they look nordish that must mean they are actually Germanic? I don't know what the hell you are trying to say here. :nut

Evolved
Saturday, March 15th, 2003, 10:56 PM
Stop posting your family photo albums on here we can all see where you got your nose from.. x_p

Originally posted by Demigorgona
Here are your typical Slavs...

Glenlivet
Saturday, March 15th, 2003, 11:43 PM
Thanks for your post. You're a sound girl. I agree with what you're saying about the fact that cultural, linguistic and ethnic terms don't always correlate with racial types. Some types are more common in some places than others. We always simplify the actual racial situations and try to show a "national type".

The question is if the "Nordish" (excluding East-Baltics) Slavs are originally of a Slavic origin.

It depends what "Nordish" is and who defines it. Most types in western Europe are low-skulled and it has been like that since ancient times. Should we include high-skulled types in the east that have what we would call "Nordish" facial features included or not?

It's mainly the broader foreheads, wide apart eye setting and its shape, and the nasal concavity that make some East European populations different.






Originally posted by Vanessa
Actually, you CAN post nordish types AND call them Slavic. Slavic is a linguistic and cultural term first of all, it just so happens that the average Slav looks more "nordish" than some people, like you apparently, want to admit (for reasons no one knows why, maybe to suck up to dead Hitler or something :rolleyes: )

The average Slav does not look like that bizarre looking "Ukrainian", or in fact really any of those examples you posted, except for maybe the second one (whether they are nordish or not). Have you ever seen any Slavic people? These extreme examples I find are not really good for anything. That Czech man looks about how every round-headed European man looked around that time when those mustaches were popular x_p

So if they look nordish that must mean they are actually Germanic? I don't know what the hell you are trying to say here. :nut

Demigorgona
Saturday, March 15th, 2003, 11:52 PM
My post was to show how ridiculous the original post was. I know very well that your 'typical' slav don't look like what I posted. It was like saying 'here is your typical spaniard" or "here is your typical German" etc You just can't do that. There are many racial types living in one area. There aren't many European areas that are of one pure sub group.

You can't post nordish looking people and say here this as an example of what they look like, when there is great diversity. If you are going to post a here is your typical whatever...try using the sub group...like here is your typical nordish type from the baltic states ...something like that. What you posted was idiotic.

LadyGoethe: The pictures I posted were more like a family album of yours judging from your picture. There is no slavic background in my blood where you quite clearly do. Also if you have nothing to add to the thread other then insults...you should consider not posting at all.

:rolleyes:

Ominous Lord Spoonblade
Sunday, March 16th, 2003, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by Demigorgona
My post was to show how ridiculous the original post was. I know very well that your 'typical' slav don't look like what I posted. It was like saying 'here is your typical spaniard" or "here is your typical German" etc You just can't do that.

People will argue that you can, and some will argue that you can't. You did not prove anything, the only thing this will do is evolve into a further discussion on whether or not there can be a "typical" type.

You can't post nordish looking people and say here this as an example of what they look like, when there is great diversity.

I would say that you can. Typical is just the same as average. It's not as simple as something like height, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The thing that is really debateable is what a person's view of this "average" type is.



Also if you have nothing to add to the thread other then insults...you should consider not posting at all.

And your constant usage of words such as "moron" and "idiotic" is alright if it's thrown in with some extra sentences?

Demigorgona
Sunday, March 16th, 2003, 12:13 AM
[i]Originally posted by Vanessa
Also if you have nothing to add to the thread other then insults...you should consider not posting at all.

And your constant usage of words such as "moron" and "idiotic" is alright if it's thrown in with some extra sentences?

You are right...I apologize for using such terms. I guess I should learn to hold my temper a little more.

Ominous Lord Spoonblade
Sunday, March 16th, 2003, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by Demigorgona
You are right...I apologize for using such terms. I guess I should learn to hold my temper a little more.

Yes you should :gift It will just fuel your temper throwing those words into your posts because people will respond with an even more negative tone towards you :eek:

Hellstar
Sunday, March 16th, 2003, 12:31 AM
This is about race, its not some modern beauty contest. this is people and how people look. try look through fingers with cloth, hair, beard styles. all that is just modern constitutions. I think Liz has a point, all this Slavic gossip makes my head spin. rather people like it or not is the term Slavic and Nordic are deeply entangled.

Ominous Lord Spoonblade
Sunday, March 16th, 2003, 02:02 AM
I was not implying that because those people were ugly that they werent typical Slavs. I just havent seen many people that look that extreme as in those old photos, whether they are Slavic or something else. I think you misinterpretted what I was saying.

It's a lot easier to find all these nice looking girls and boys to be examples of Slavs because you can just do a search for models. It is harder to find pictures of modern every day faces.

Evolved
Sunday, March 16th, 2003, 03:54 AM
They are typical Slavs, Western and Eastern Slavs and as I've been around these people all my life I know what they look like. I never met a Czech who wasn't blond or redheaded, and I've known a lot of them so I'm certain that blond hair is common, red hair lesser so. This is no less scientific than the SNPA/McCulloch ESTIMATES people seem to base their knowledge around.

We really need to ask a completely unbiased person to describe a typical Slav..

I don't get involved in these pointless "who is whitest" arguments, this thread isn't about that. Everyone can post honestly what they have seen as a typical Slav, and I don't think that's what your post was. I don't look anything like those people you posted. You don't either, I'm just being mean.. :goodmorni

My nose is not snubbed or broad, I'm not brachycephalic, my face is not flat (my profile is linear- but so are that of Westische, Fälische, and Nordische women), I don't have epicanthi and I'm not dark- not my hair, eyes or skin. When someone tells me I look Russian or Polish, I consider that a nice compliment and a pretty good obvservation since I am partially. :) People also guess that I'm Irish (which I'm not), I suppose because I'm pale.

Ooh, I'm Slavic, yeah- that's such a painful fact of my life, I'm really dealing with it. I make idiotic posts because I am an idiot. I don't know anything, so I'm here to learn. :gift

Originally posted by Demigorgona

Saladin
Sunday, March 16th, 2003, 05:19 AM
You guys really must stop this Slavic/Nordic childish squabbling. This frivolous sub-racial feuding accomplishes nothing.

Conquistador
Sunday, March 16th, 2003, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by Saladin
You guys really must stop this Slavic/Nordic childish squabbling. This frivolous sub-racial feuding accomplishes nothing.

For once, I agree with you. It annoys me to see these childish "Nordic vs. Slavic" fights within in the ranks here. x_nono

svarog
Sunday, March 16th, 2003, 03:07 PM
The question is if the "Nordish" (excluding East-Baltics) Slavs are originally of a Slavic origin.

to volksduetsche:

There is no question about that.

Thats what Coon says:

....
Since the Slavs continued the practice of cremation well into the early centuries of the present millennium, skeletons from the period of unity are non-existent, and those from the early centuries of expansion are not abundant. However, in this instance, literary evidence antedates the osteological, for numerous descriptions of the early Slavs, assiduously collected by Niederle, occur in the writings of Byzantines, Arabs, and Persians.101 With only one exception, these make the Slavs tall, spare, and blond or ruddy. They were often confused with Germans, and this fact strengthens the likelihood that they were predominantly of light pigmentation.
....

....

That from Poland, the eastern half of which was included in the home of the Slavic peoples before their period of dispersion, is not very abundant. Altogether less than 40 male crania may be assembled, and few of these have complete measurements.103 (See Appendix I, col. 46.) These skulls are all predominantly dolichocephalic; the mean cranial index is 73, and not a single round-headed example is included. Among these Polish skulls are some notably long and large specimens Nvith long. narrow faces. The noses of the ,group, as a whole, are fully leptorrhine. On the whole, the ancestral Slavs of Poland were Nordics, within the range of the Indo-European group; these skulls lean to the longer- and larger-headed Corded extreme, and resemble in many respects, the Hannover series, and by extension, the Anglo-Saxons.

Numerous remains of the Slavic expansion into Germany show clearly the physical types of the particular invaders concerned in this quarter. The most important series is that studied by Asmus, who collected the skulls of the ancient Wends of Mecklenburg.104 (See Appendix I, col. 47.) These form a reasonably homogeneous group of high dolichocephals and low mesocephals, with a moderate vault height, a low sloping forehead, long narrow faces, leptorrhine or mesorrhine noses, high orbits, and a strongly built jaw. These Old Wends, rounder headed than the Poles, fall very close metrically to the Kelts and to the Scythians. In intermediate parts of Germany, particularly in western Prussia and Pomerania, the Old Slavic skulls are higher vaulted, and closer in this respect to the Polish sub-type.105

.....

Glenlivet
Sunday, March 16th, 2003, 04:52 PM
Yes, Ross showed me that many times in the past.

The thing is that Rolf Nordenstreng, an old Swedish ethnologist also noted that. But he also said Slavs mixed with races in the eastern and southern periphery of the Europid racial region. Thus, they are different from Germans.

The Royal Scythians were not really Slavic, but a North Iranian tribe. They were low-skulled as far as I learnt.

I have nothing againts Slavs who don't attack me. It's always an honour if for example someone say I look like a Czech or a Polish man. So I agree with LG that it can even be a compliment.

Besides, I find many Russian girls to be more feminine than many German Phalian Nordics.




Originally posted by svarog
The question is if the "Nordish" (excluding East-Baltics) Slavs are originally of a Slavic origin.

to volksduetsche:

There is no question about that.

Thats what Coon says:

....
Since the Slavs continued the practice of cremation well into the early centuries of the present millennium, skeletons from the period of unity are non-existent, and those from the early centuries of expansion are not abundant. However, in this instance, literary evidence antedates the osteological, for numerous descriptions of the early Slavs, assiduously collected by Niederle, occur in the writings of Byzantines, Arabs, and Persians.101 With only one exception, these make the Slavs tall, spare, and blond or ruddy. They were often confused with Germans, and this fact strengthens the likelihood that they were predominantly of light pigmentation.
....

....

That from Poland, the eastern half of which was included in the home of the Slavic peoples before their period of dispersion, is not very abundant. Altogether less than 40 male crania may be assembled, and few of these have complete measurements.103 (See Appendix I, col. 46.) These skulls are all predominantly dolichocephalic; the mean cranial index is 73, and not a single round-headed example is included. Among these Polish skulls are some notably long and large specimens Nvith long. narrow faces. The noses of the ,group, as a whole, are fully leptorrhine. On the whole, the ancestral Slavs of Poland were Nordics, within the range of the Indo-European group; these skulls lean to the longer- and larger-headed Corded extreme, and resemble in many respects, the Hannover series, and by extension, the Anglo-Saxons.

Numerous remains of the Slavic expansion into Germany show clearly the physical types of the particular invaders concerned in this quarter. The most important series is that studied by Asmus, who collected the skulls of the ancient Wends of Mecklenburg.104 (See Appendix I, col. 47.) These form a reasonably homogeneous group of high dolichocephals and low mesocephals, with a moderate vault height, a low sloping forehead, long narrow faces, leptorrhine or mesorrhine noses, high orbits, and a strongly built jaw. These Old Wends, rounder headed than the Poles, fall very close metrically to the Kelts and to the Scythians. In intermediate parts of Germany, particularly in western Prussia and Pomerania, the Old Slavic skulls are higher vaulted, and closer in this respect to the Polish sub-type.105

.....

cosmocreator
Sunday, March 16th, 2003, 08:06 PM
Slavic is a linguistic term not a racial one. A Serb is called a Slav and can be Dinaric. A Pole can be a Slav and be East Baltic. A Ukanian can be a Slav and be Neo-Danubian.