View Full Version : Name Your Favorite European Monarch/s

Northern Paladin
Tuesday, January 22nd, 2008, 03:36 AM
Napoleon, Ivan the Terrible, Henry VIII, Alfred the Great, followed by Charles Martel, William the Conqueror, Frederick the Great and Louis XIV.

Tuesday, January 22nd, 2008, 03:45 AM
I am partial to King Ludwig II of Bavaria. I plan to start a thread about him here at some point proposing that he is a more interesting focus for Germanic preservation than any twentieth-century politician. He is best known for his extravagant castles that kept numerous Bavarian peasants employed, for his support of Wagner at a crucial point in his career, and for his early designs of a viable flying machine. He was dismissed by historians and by his own government as a madman but he was simply ahead of his times.

Tuesday, January 22nd, 2008, 03:49 AM
England: William III, Henry VIII, Elizabeth I, Henry V, Alfred the Great, William I.

Wales: Llywelyn ab Iorwerth.

German kingdoms: Frederick II (the Great), Henry I (the Fowler), Frederick I (Holy Roman Emperor).

Netherlands: William I.

Tuesday, January 22nd, 2008, 08:49 AM
Elizabeth I of England and Peter the Great of Russia

Soldier of Wodann
Tuesday, January 22nd, 2008, 09:09 AM
No one comes to mind besides Charlemagne, Martel and Showa (Hirohito), I'm not particularly a fan of Monarchs.

Tuesday, March 29th, 2011, 07:04 PM
frederick the great, alfred the great, William III

Thursday, March 31st, 2011, 11:19 AM
King Harald Fairhair.
First king of Norway! \o/

Thursday, March 31st, 2011, 09:55 PM
Brian Boru

Hamar Fox
Thursday, March 31st, 2011, 10:24 PM
I've always found Elizabeth I's distate for gypsies, Jews and blackamoors to be rather endearing.

Thursday, March 31st, 2011, 11:58 PM
Monarchy: Etymology. From Greek monos "alone" + arkhein "to rule". As such, it includes any person who ruled absolute. Therefore, I'm picking Hitler. ;)

Friday, April 1st, 2011, 12:26 AM
Richard the Lionhearted and Kaiser Wilhelm II :thumbup

Two great men misunderstood by fools of their particular era.

Friday, April 1st, 2011, 12:41 AM
I'm an American and don't believe in Monarchs.
Remember, America started a Revolution to remove the shackles of a country that believed in so-called "Royal Blood."

Friday, April 1st, 2011, 01:48 AM
I'm an American and don't believe in Monarchs.
Remember, America started a Revolution to remove the shackles of a country that believed in so-called "Royal Blood."

I'd rather have a monarch or a tribal leader.

Friday, April 1st, 2011, 02:33 AM
I'd rather have a monarch or a tribal leader.
A tribal leader would be better.

Friday, April 1st, 2011, 02:03 PM
From a purely English/British perspective, my favourite monarchs would be ...

1) Harold Godwinson, the last great Anglo-Saxon King. Ones of England's finest warriors who died sword-in-hand at the head of his troops.

2) Alfred The Great, whose achievements surpass those of any other English monarch before or since.

3) King Arthur, despite there being an element of myth surrounding him and even doubts as to his actual existence, but second to none as an inspirational figure.

My list would have to stop there because after Godwinson we became saddled with the French for the next few centuries and over-zealous Christianity for even longer. The post-medieval monarchs been a pretty poor sample, although Victoria captured the public's imagination and was generally well liked. A special mention also to Edward VIII, who was sympathetic to the NS cause and could have changed Europe's recent history quite dramatically had he stuck around for a bit longer ;)

kleine Lokomotive
Thursday, April 14th, 2011, 10:25 AM
Rudolf I of Habsburg who acted as one of the most loyal commanders of Frederick II in Swabia and Italy. Then reestablished Germany after the Interregium winning the biggest knight battle in the process.

Béla IV of Hungary: Defeated the Mongolian Invasions.

Sigismund I of Luxemburg: "I am king of the Romans and above grammar"

Frederick III of Habsburg: Once reduced just to control of the city of Innsbruck but handed over to his son most of Southern and Western Germany.

Kudis III
Tuesday, September 27th, 2011, 12:51 AM
Sweden: Gustavus Adolphus II (father of modern warfare)
Russia: Czar Peter the Great (props for stopping the carolingians)

Northern Paladin
Tuesday, September 27th, 2011, 03:21 AM
I think history has yet to see a perfect leader, but if I had to chose one to call my favorite I'd chose Armenius (Hermann) because despite (probably) being more capable than any subsequent monarch who was born into their position of power, he never got a chance to rule over a united Germania. For this reason he retains an aura of mystery and legend.

Back then leaders were not brought up in a sheltered environment, they were hardened by battle and constant struggle for survival. They rose to power through a process of natural selection, not by artificial means.

Huginn ok Muninn
Tuesday, September 27th, 2011, 04:11 AM
Edward Longshanks. Kicked out the bloody Jews and put England on a path to greatness. And I don't know if he really did this, but it's fun to think he did. :D :


Tuesday, September 27th, 2011, 05:24 AM
....hm, well. I'm an American who does in fact believe in the power of Royalty.

Chlodovech (Clovis)

Karl der Grossen (Charlemagne, Vater Europas ;))

Holy Roman Emperor Frederick I Barbarossa

Julius & Augustus Caesar


Napoleon Bonaparte

Brennus (4th century BC)

Can't say I have much respect for Hitler as a contender for Greatest European monarchs in hindsight. Just one of the bastard children of Modernity who struck lucky, a guy who's loyalists will eternally have a chip on their soldier.

Tuesday, September 27th, 2011, 06:06 AM
I don't really have any warm feelings for absolute monarchy and rule-by-birthright, there's very little to admire about monarchies after the Middle Ages. That said, I do have admiration for the kings who respected their nation and did great things for their people, the kings who fought on the battlefield alongside their footsoldiers. A few of my favorite European monarchs would be:

Charles Martel - king of the Franks, and defender of Europe against the Muslim hordes. Famous for smashing the Moorish invasion at the Battle of Tours, stopping the Muslim invasion in its tracks. Defeat would've meant that Europe would fall into Islamic darkness, and the mixed races from North Africa would have poured into continental Europe. Thanks to the victory of the Franks, white Europe was saved from destruction at that point.
Otto the Great - the Saxon king who led the German defense against the Magyars, an invading Asian race who stormed into Europe. After he crushed them at the Battle of Lechfeld, the Magyars would never threaten Europe again. Otto's victory was so complete that nothing remains of the Magyars, except for their name (which is used by the modern-day Hungarians, an unrelated European people). The original Asian Magyars were totally annihilated.
Emperor Augustus - the first Roman emperor. Found Rome as a city of brick and left it a city of marble. Extended the Roman empire to a massive size, while creating a peace that lasted for 200 years. The coolest thing is that he lived like a normal citizen and never held an official position, but kept up a semblance of democracy the whole time. I also like him for passing the first race laws in history (his laws against ethnic Romans marrying freed slaves).

I think history has yet to see a perfect leader, but if I had to chose one to call my favorite I'd chose Armenius (Hermann) because despite (probably) being more capable than any subsequent monarch who was born into their position of power, he never got a chance to rule over a united Germania.
I've always admired Arminius as well, the way he defeated the Roman invasion was brilliant. I also like that he was an elected tribal leader, and not a spoiled little prince who sat on the throne because of who his father was. The Germanic tribes had the custom of electing the chieftain, which ensured that only the most smart and capable men were leaders.

(His real name was probably "Irmin", the old Germanic form, and not "Hermann", which is a later invention by German authors. Either that was his name, or "Arminius" was just a nickname given by the Romans and his real name was something else entirely.)

Tuesday, September 27th, 2011, 02:26 PM
My own favorite king would be a Swedish classic, Karl XII. He's much more fascinating than our other warrior king, Gustav Adolf, and many nationalists still admire him. Sure, he did bring Sweden's imperial era to an end, but at least we went out with a bang. :P

Another good one would be Peter the Great, who defeated Karl XII and turned Russia into a superpower.

Tuesday, September 27th, 2011, 02:54 PM


(Also I quite like Alfred the Great, Llywelyn ab Iorwerth, Haraldr hárfagri and more)

The Hungry Hun
Saturday, October 1st, 2011, 07:59 AM
Der Alte Fritz. He was a renaissance man from a prestigious German family and he just happen to have the resources of one of the world's coolest nations ever at his disposal. I would happily fight in this man's army.

Drum Kinder seid lustig und allemsamt bereit!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Adolf_Friedrich_Erdmann_von_Menzel_024.j pg

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2019, 06:30 PM
Eleanor of Aquitaine (1122-1204)

-She accompanied her husband, King Louis VII of France, on the Second Crusade
-She was mother to two kings, Richard and John
-She was a literary patron
-She was apparently so stylish and elegant that she invoked the ire of Bernard of Clairvaux (!)

Tuesday, April 2nd, 2019, 07:04 PM
The region of Aquitaine had a rather bizarre status, being sometimes 'English' and at other times 'French'.

It really depended on who Eleanor was married to :D but anyway, via marriage she became Queen of both England and France during her lifetime.

In addition to this she produced several other monarchs in these two countries (I forget how many kids she had - quite a few!) so she was a hugely significant figure.

Wednesday, April 3rd, 2019, 02:05 AM
Alfred the Great was quite interesting.

Wednesday, April 3rd, 2019, 07:09 AM
Kening Redbad, the greatest king of the Frisians.

Wednesday, April 3rd, 2019, 08:02 AM
I'll have to go with Swedish ones, because I barely know of any others. :D

Erik XIV. Not as ruler, perhaps, but as historical character. A tragic person, probably insane, but very intelligent. There's something Shakespearean about him, even though it can be difficult to get at the "true Erik" from the data available to us.

Karl XII. Again, not as a ruler (he had no sense of economy, unlike his brilliant father), but his personality is fascinating. Molded in accordance with royal ideals at the time, burdened by his destiny and painfully lonely at times, yet with a furiously strong mind. And his battles. How much was bravery, how much was death wish? We'll never know.

Wednesday, April 3rd, 2019, 01:02 PM
Does Adolf Hitler count ? :D

Wednesday, April 3rd, 2019, 01:30 PM
He didn't reign for very long but Edward VIII has my utmost respect.

The world today could have been very different had he not been forced to abdicate :(

Thursday, April 4th, 2019, 03:25 AM
Charlemagne: The King who united Europe
Charles Martel: The king who drove the muslims out of Europe
Vlad Tepes: the king that made sure muslims got the "point."

Thursday, April 4th, 2019, 02:34 PM
King Arthur (whether he was a real or apocryphal figure) is the English monarch that captures my imagination the most.

After him comes Harold Godwinson, the last of the Anglo-Saxon kings.

Thursday, April 4th, 2019, 04:26 PM
Empress Matilda (1102-1167)
-Daughter of Henry I and Queen Maud
-Married to Henry V, Emperor of Germany and the Holy Roman Empire
-Fought against her cousin, Stephen, to win the throne of England for herself and her descendants
-Was noted for her charity

Thursday, April 4th, 2019, 09:14 PM
The only good thing about this feud was that Stephen turned out to be the last of the Norman monarchs :wave :afu

Thursday, April 4th, 2019, 09:49 PM
Like the Americans the Irish have never been big fans of Monarchy. Our history was more based on provinces duchies. So I'll go for Boudicca


Friday, April 5th, 2019, 05:09 PM
From Anglo-Saxon slave to Frankish queen, St. Balthild
-Purchased by a Frankish noble to serve at his court
-Married Clovis II
-Mother to two kings, Chlotar III and Childeric II
-Committed to the reform of the Frankish church
-Possibly instrumental in the reunification of three parts of the Merovingian kingdom
-Was very charitable, and commanded parts of the royal funds for alms
-Prohibited infanticide
-Forbid trade in Christian captives

Friday, April 5th, 2019, 06:29 PM
Like the Americans the Irish have never been big fans of Monarchy. Our history was more based on provinces duchies. So I'll go for Boudicca

Boudicca is my mother's favourite, too, jagdmesser. :thumbup

Friday, April 5th, 2019, 07:02 PM

A selfless dedicated monarch.

Monday, April 15th, 2019, 05:23 PM

A selfless dedicated monarch.

Good choice, jagdmesser! I was fascinated with his wife, Empress Elisabeth of Austria, and I enjoyed the Sissi trilogy.

I'm also intrigued by Queen Cynethryth, wife of King Offa

-Her origins are obscure, but legend said she was related to Frankish emperor, Charlemagne
-Was sent out to sea in an open boat for some crime (very melodramatic!)
-The youthful Offa supposedly found her, fell in love with her, and married her
-She had the title not only of queen, but of dispensatrix domus ('controller of the household')
-Her name and effigy appear on coins
-After Offa's death she became abbess of Bedeford and Cookham