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Angelcynn Beorn
Thursday, November 1st, 2007, 09:16 PM
Ladogan types seem to be the forgotten men of classification these days. I'm not sure if its because some people feel they may be related to Monogloids or what, but i thought i'd try and remedy the situation. Can anyone post exaples of people who they consider good examples of the Ladogan type.

I'll start with Jannie De Beer. Bit of a stretch, seeing how hes Afrikaans, but he immediately strikes me as Ladogan.

http://www.sporting-heroes.net/files_rugby/DE_BEER_J_19991030_GH_L.jpg

catchmeifyoukhan
Thursday, November 1st, 2007, 11:50 PM
I see what you mean, but this man is too Athletic to be common among ladogans. Someone who looks strikingly ladogan, is Matt Damon. I do not know his origins, whether he is irish or a mix of nordic and asiatic, but he retains most ladogan features which can be defined as a reduced (but non foetalised) cro-magnoid.

Amorsite
Thursday, November 1st, 2007, 11:57 PM
I see what you mean, but this man is too Athletic to be common among ladogans. Someone who looks strikingly ladogan, is Matt Damon. I do not know his origins, whether he is irish or a mix of nordic and asiatic, but he retains most ladogan features which can be defined as a reduced (but non foetalised) cro-magnoid.

Damon is part Finnish. This man is rather Bruenn.

Angelcynn Beorn
Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 12:10 AM
Damon is part Finnish. This man is rather Bruenn.

Why? What characteristics make him Brunn and not Ladogan?

Can you post some examples of people who you consider to be representative of the Ladogan type.

Angelcynn Beorn
Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 12:16 AM
Matt Damon

http://images.askmen.com/men/entertainment/pictures/matt_damon_150e.jpg

I always thought of Matt Damon as being more of a Tronder type. Too dolichocephalic and long faced to be a Ladogan. What do you think?

Either way, his kids aren't going to be anywhere in the Nordish spectrum.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/77/Matt_Damon.jpg

Corin
Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 12:49 AM
I think with Damon it's difficult to judge. He seems to be Tronder/Bruenn. I think people try to fit him into one of these categories, also Lagodan, due to his zygomatic arches being on the broad side.

I would not classify Damon as Lagodan as I don't think he possesses oriental like features. I classify him as Tronder.

Eiríkr
Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 01:39 AM
Damon's nose and forehead look East-Baltid. He’s possibly Borreby or Brünn? :confused: He’s not Trönder. In the past, I thought he was Fälisch.

By the way, it’s time to get back on topic. :D I never heard of the Ladogan type.

Cuchulain
Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 02:17 AM
I'm no expert on physical anthropology but how is this for a Ladogan?
I wish Agrippa came around here more often.

Evolved
Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 02:21 AM
'Ladogan' type is a borealized (body type (http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/699/bodytypegroupslundmansj4.jpg) & facial features adapted to cold climates) type of East Europid of Cro-Magnid origin with very ungracile features. They have an overall rough, unrefined and 'stumpy' look, they are no beauty contest winners :p but you can see the history of Ice Age Europeans in their faces. They don't really exist anymore as a distinct race. However these individuals are very influenced by this type:

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/483/escanear00218gnbu4.th.jpg (http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=escanear00218gnbu4.jpg)

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/2441/kautkas0081ky8.th.jpg (http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kautkas0081ky8.jpg) http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/2169/kautkas0082qh9.th.jpg (http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kautkas0082qh9.jpg)

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/6159/11515xe6.th.jpg (http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11515xe6.jpg)http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/5402/13077gi8.th.jpg (http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13077gi8.jpg)

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/6174/12158wc9.th.jpg (http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12158wc9.jpg)

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/6766/evstafievgeneralalexandpb7.th.jpg (http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=evstafievgeneralalexandpb7. jpg)

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/954/golebiewskihenryk02vs3.th.jpg (http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=golebiewskihenryk02vs3.jpg)

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/5100/lindgrenannemariejj6km2.th.jpg (http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lindgrenannemariejj6km2.jpg )

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/2605/troe022lx0.th.jpg (http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=troe022lx0.jpg)

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/1905/escanear00191liwv3.th.jpg (http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=escanear00191liwv3.jpg)

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6066/escanear00173qlwg4.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=escanear00173qlwg4.jpg)

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/4215/escanear00123ggvb3.th.jpg (http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=escanear00123ggvb3.jpg)

Sigurd
Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 02:56 AM
TO me these so-called "Ladogans" appear to be just overly borealised East Baltids, borealisation being just short of qualifying for Lappoid, to be quite honest. ;)

Angelcynn Beorn
Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 03:59 AM
Another Ladogan to me is MMA fighter Joe Riggs. Although perhaps he could also be East Baltic.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/14/JoeRiggs.png/200px-JoeRiggs.png

http://www.budovideos.com/newsletter/images/ufcfighters/riggs.jpg

Oski
Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 04:52 AM
::sigh::

Here we go again with the east baltid-lappid vs ladogan debate. Some things never change! I guess its like teaching 5th grade for 5 years. The Allthing is new so new members are going to bring up this topic.
:rolleyes:

Dr. Solar Wolff
Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 09:50 AM
DNA markers say these are the purest of Europeans. People in this region have the least intrusive DNA associated with them of all Europeans. On the one hand they appear to shade off into the extreme northern polar people, such as Lapps, extending off to Siberia. On the other hand, they shade off to East Baltics and Nordics. In order to figure out European Man it is necessary to figure out this type and its origins.

Angelcynn Beorn
Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 04:07 PM
::sigh::

Here we go again with the east baltid-lappid vs ladogan debate. Some things never change! I guess its like teaching 5th grade for 5 years. The Allthing is new so new members are going to bring up this topic.
:rolleyes:

And you came on this thread for what reason exactly? Just to let off a few condescending comments?

If you feel you have something to add then do so. Otherwise whats the point of coming on here to make snide comments.

catchmeifyoukhan
Saturday, November 10th, 2007, 01:13 AM
::sigh::

Here we go again with the east baltid-lappid vs ladogan debate. Some things never change! I guess its like teaching 5th grade for 5 years. The Allthing is new so new members are going to bring up this topic.
:rolleyes:

Well, for me such debates are a bit like fairy tales that I like to read again and again before the sandman comes.

More seriously, ladogans differ from lapids by the fact that they have a much less receding and narrow cristal like chin. Ladogan did not encounter the alpinisation process characteristic of lapids. In a way, Ladogans remain fully unreduced UPs, yet often altered by slightly mongolic mixture. East-baltics can be defined, either as original ladogans not altered by mongolic admixture, or as ladogan-nordic or as ladogan-borreby intermediaries.