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Hellstar
Monday, October 14th, 2002, 09:54 PM
Do you want the Union or Not!

German with it`s 81 mio people form the biggest country and vote!

If turkey as all sources indicates join the European Union (EU), it will become the second largest country with it`s 68 mio people. most of Turkey is consisting of Muslims. they even prohibited their own Conservative/Nationalistic Muslim party which stood to win the election. why? because the elite in turkey wants the benefits of the Union. so they prohibit the parties who rebel from this future goal.

How can proud nationalistic countries in Europe become part of a conform Union? and how the hell can Turkey ever be included into this?

soon turkey will consist of more people than Germany and therefore count the biggest vote in the Union. if this is not depressing I dont know what is!

einsatzkommando
Monday, October 14th, 2002, 10:01 PM
How can Turkey possibly be treated as European????

They're not European!!!!!

As far as I can tell the EU is just more government. What happened to national sovereignty?

Hellstar
Monday, October 14th, 2002, 10:07 PM
Yes you got a very good point!

seen geographically Turkey has 2% percent land on European realm.

But who the hell define this?

our sovereignty has already been total damaged.

Its a slow manipulation process where they tempt with small harmless changes and paragraphs and suddenly you are encaged.

Its mass conformity. they control alot of stuff even in my country who voted NO several times. they dont respect a NO they just make another election till they get their YES.


its total totalitarianism.

How can somebody from another country decide what's best for my country? it does not make sense at all!

Legio_Melita
Tuesday, October 15th, 2002, 12:08 PM
The European Union is the 21st Century petty excuse for Communism! x_nono

The Sailor
Tuesday, October 15th, 2002, 09:45 PM
i dont think turkey will get in to the union,im sure there is a lot of talk about it but,but erveryone knows they are muslims......so,we cant use them beeing a part of europe...and european leaders know...

Jack
Wednesday, October 16th, 2002, 06:36 AM
Nuke Turkey

Ederico
Wednesday, October 16th, 2002, 06:11 PM
If Turkey joins the EU after Malta joins in 2004, I want Malta out, I don't want any Union with non-Aryans, we already have enough non-Aryans here, and I don't want to travel around Europe when I get the chance and see a bunch of Turks.

o0_tigga_0o
Wednesday, October 16th, 2002, 06:39 PM
I am new to a lot of things in here as some of you may know...the ? i have is what exactly is a union??...stupid ? i know but i have to ask its been bothering me for a while and dont' exactly knwo who to ask...can u help.....and i also have to say i love the third choice....lmao....thanks Denise

vegetz
Wednesday, October 16th, 2002, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by o0_tigga_0o
I am new to a lot of things in here as some of you may know...the ? i have is what exactly is a union??...stupid ? i know but i have to ask its been bothering me for a while and dont' exactly knwo who to ask...can u help.....and i also have to say i love the third choice....lmao....thanks Denise

The EU (European Union) is a supra-national organization kinda like the UN, but only for Europe (well supposedly). Basically, the EU sets standards on farming, economy, politics, human rights, immigration, and other aspects of governing. The ultimate goal of the EU is to have a common 'European' government, economy, and decision making capabilities (for example the EURO currency). Or in other words, to unite European nations into a USA-style Federal-State relationship (each nation-state will hand over some autonomy). Europeans, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

My opinion is to dissolve EU today. Moving towards a Federal Europe, subtracts from Nationalism and encourages everyone to be the same (Marxist idealogy). Plus, if nations such as Turkey enter the Union, the scum which live there could travel or work anywhere in the EU! So in esscence, if Turkey joins, then a Turkish Kurd/non-White could gain entry to Europe easier than a White American!

I think that Greeks and Balkan nations will resist Turkey joining (because they hate Turks), and I hope that Ireland rejects the Nice Treaty a second time.

Let us also not forget that the EU is left leaning, and once tried to commit sanctions against Austria, for democratically electing Jorg Haider to power! If you do not subscribe to EU ideas, then the EU will be gunning for you, making it practically authoritarian.

Ederico
Wednesday, October 16th, 2002, 07:08 PM
The European Union is Union of 15 European Member-States (Nations) which allows Free-Trade and Free-Movement of Labour and Capital and People in the European Union. The European Union has been developing from the Post-War decades. At first it was just a Coal & Steel Community for sharing those resources in common between the original member states.

In 2004 the European will include 10 new Member States, I forget them all, but these will include Malta for sure.

I don't know much else, but I hope it helps. Most Nationalists are against the European Union because it is a SupraNational Organisation which will take authority away from the Nation-States to the European State, most probably unless the EU collapese a more Centralised European Confederation could be created.

Reno
Friday, October 18th, 2002, 04:53 AM
Ha! They'll never let Turkey join. It's government could collapse to Islamic extremists. The European Union will form without Turkey, but still leaving a strong economic tie to avoid hard feelings.

Hellstar
Friday, October 18th, 2002, 05:11 AM
I actually agree with most of you guys here.

Reno made me think about that this is pure Jewish benefit to structure the Union, Israel will get a bigger allegiance and that way make us first accept Turkey because of their mellow modern Islamism and by that stroke infiltrate rest of the hardcore league of Incarnated Islamitic empires and then Israel will again ride upon the western wave in the name of peace but by this eliminate rest of their enemies while corrupting us from within.

Conclusion they seek to melt the whole earth together, Is there any evidence?, yes even empirical? of other racial populations having this urge for miscegenation and geneflow as the Jews? Think about iT? the answer creeps up on you fast NO.

NO the inferiors like Negroes and mud's and Asians have nothing to be proud of so why not mix their race with ours.

the Jews knows this and use it against us.

when the earth is one big melting pot then they can claim victory by disorganizing us in every way and virtue, chaos has then spoken and only Jewish capitalism and Jewish inhuman sense shall REGULATE mother earth.

Jews are self hating and therefore not ashamed to mix their own genes.
by projecting own inferiority unto others they seek cover, they are mass producers of self victimized TV shows and journalistic efforts.

FUCKING JEWS!

Nils Salonen
Friday, October 18th, 2002, 01:51 PM
I just thought that when Israel is going to join EU. They are in every European thing. I don't see them as European. Israel is just like USA, or USA is just like Israel. Ok, no for Turkey and I would say no for whole European Union. Too many non-white immigrants will otherwise conquer Finland. The marks are in the air.

Reno
Saturday, October 19th, 2002, 03:15 AM
Another thing, Turkey wants out of the mid-east because Israel prevented it mid-east development. Why? Because they ethnically cleansed like 800 000 arabs which led to mayhem for the mid-east. Then all the Arab immigrants came to aryan lands and the jewish marxists are laughing about it. If we destroy Israel, then we can ask/force Arabs back. They Arabs already hate having non-arab/non-muslim governments, so why prevent them from going back to mid-east?

Another thing, why do we need Israel as allies? Because of pity? Pity for the Holocaust lie? If we dismantle/destroy Israel, we will get a bigger and more powerful Arab allies. Plus with the help of Arab oil market, America can finally defeat communist pigs like china/korea.

And there are 300 000 million Arabs, so the destruction of Israel would open a NEW DIMENSION of U.S market into untapped lands of Mid-east and Africa. Which basically means PROFIT. Not only that but all this terroris and serving as human shields for Israel would end.

PLUS(last time) we would have plenty of room in the miid-east so we can even deport the blacks back to their Muslim homelands.

All this is possible, with the destruction of Israel.

Ederico
Tuesday, February 18th, 2003, 07:38 PM
I am still undecided regarding the European Union. I must say that from what I hear here in Malta I am in favour of Malta's entry in the EU, but I am opposed to the ideals of the EU because they are Anti-Racialist. I must say that I would be very much in favour of a Pan-European RACIALIST European Confederation as I believe in that dream, certainly not the EU's Multiracial Anti-Racial Supranational State.

Moody
Tuesday, February 18th, 2003, 08:50 PM
An European Union along the line of a 'United States' is undesirable.
However, a European Imperium along the lines of that intimated by the Axis Powers is necessary.

Just as the city-state was made irrelevant by the nation-state, so the 'super-power' is now making nation-states impotent.

Europe has the resources to become a superpower - it just lacks the Leading Will of a Charlemagne, a Napoleon or a Hitler.

But it needs to happen - for me, it is a matter of Destiny.

The question of Turkey cannot be dismissed.
The European powers unwisely brought about the destruction of Turkey's own Empire [Ottoman] in WWI. Hoping to take this Empire over as rich-pickings, the West showed itself incapable of managing the remnants of the Turkish Empire.
From this disaster stems the problems in the Balkans and of course the Middle East.

So a European Imperium would have to sort something out IN PARTNERSHIP with Turks/Arabs etc.,
Israel must go if this is to work [and this could lead to a war between USA and a European Imperium].

Having alliances with non-Whites does not mean that one is accepting non-Whites as White. The Axis was able to include Japan without disgracing the Ideals of National Socialism.
Likewise, a European Imperium could be allied to a Muslim one in a common war against America-Israel.

Italia_Ariana
Wednesday, February 19th, 2003, 07:51 AM
I'm against:

European Union
NATO
United Nations

Any thing internationalist, is anti white it seems.

The EU has screwed Italy over...
So has NATO
And The UN is the one who suggested we import immigrants.

Internazionalismo cazzo

Hellstar,

Nice Avatar, btw Mamma mia!!!!

goidelicwarrior
Wednesday, February 19th, 2003, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by HELLSTAR
Do you want the Union or Not!

German with it`s 81 mio people form the biggest country and vote!

If turkey as all sources indicates join the European Union (EU), it will become the second largest country with it`s 68 mio people. most of Turkey is consisting of Muslims. they even prohibited their own Conservative/Nationalistic Muslim party which stood to win the election. why? because the elite in turkey wants the benefits of the Union. so they prohibit the parties who rebel from this future goal.

How can proud nationalistic countries in Europe become part of a conform Union? and how the hell can Turkey ever be included into this?

soon turkey will consist of more people than Germany and therefore count the biggest vote in the Union. if this is not depressing I dont know what is!

fuck the union.. Turkey is and will never be European!!!
havent we struggeled enough and shed our blood?
and now they sneak in through the backdoor let in by traitors and jews !!!

Moody
Wednesday, February 19th, 2003, 05:41 PM
While we're all agreed that the current EU is obviously not to our liking [how could it be!], I ask those here if they would have been opposed to the following set ups of the recent past;

1) The Rome/Berlin/Tokyo Axis, and

2) Hitler's Fortress Europa.

To those who might say that happened in 'war', I would say that - by a Clausewitzian definition - we are at war NOW.

Not only do we still face the REAL Internationalism of the capitalist and socialist varieties, we also face the threat of universalist Islam.
These enemy forces are wedded to large political entities, the foremost of which is the USA/Israel.

How are we going to oppose this without a sufficiently powerful political entity of our own?

Hitler knew this was THE problem; he realised that when he was fighting his way up to power on the streets of Germany; he realised this when he was uniting Europe as a whole, and he realised it when he was plunged into a world-wide conflict.

And things have remained on that plateau of WORLD-WIDE conflict.

The battle is still being fought at that level.

Anything less than a Fortress Europa is not enough.

WaffenSS
Saturday, February 22nd, 2003, 08:43 PM
What the Fuck? It will never work, god damn kike idea

Angelcynn Beorn
Monday, February 24th, 2003, 02:53 AM
What the hell are you talking about? Hitler never wanted, or tried to create, a united Europe. Hitler wanted to conquer the other nations of Europe and place them under German control.

Moody
Monday, February 24th, 2003, 04:30 PM
Not so; those nations with Fascist-style governments such as Franco's Spain or Mussolini's Italy were not conquered by Germany - they were allies.

Hitler's Fortress Europa would have been a United Europe consisting of Fascist/National Socialist states united in a common cause against the Internationalist Jew/Capitalist/Communist.

Of course, European states with Internationalist governments would have to be conquered so as to liberate the people from such tyranny.

Ederico
Wednesday, February 26th, 2003, 04:57 PM
I have decided regarding my stance on the European Union I am against it. The reason may be found in this thread :

http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2214

roine
Sunday, March 2nd, 2003, 10:49 AM
One problem, if Turkey joins the European Union, could be that it is a country with a civil war. Muslims vs Kemalist vs Kurds vs everyone. If Turkey is a member of EU, and the civil war get worse, the united European army will have to go in. This might be the beginning of a new european war.