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Boche
Monday, August 6th, 2007, 01:07 AM
China tells living Buddhas to obtain permission before they reincarnate


Tibet’s living Buddhas have been banned from reincarnation without permission from China’s atheist leaders. The ban is included in new rules intended to assert Beijing’s authority over Tibet’s restive and deeply Buddhist people.

“The so-called reincarnated living Buddha without government approval is illegal and invalid,” according to the order, which comes into effect on September 1.

The 14-part regulation issued by the State Administration for Religious Affairs is aimed at limiting the influence of Tibet’s exiled god-king, the Dalai Lama, and at preventing the re-incarnation of the 72-year-old monk without approval from Beijing.

It is the latest in a series of measures by the Communist authorities to tighten their grip over Tibet. Reincarnate lamas, known as tulkus, often lead religious communities and oversee the training of monks, giving them enormous influence over religious life in the Himalayan region. Anyone outside China is banned from taking part in the process of seeking and recognising a living Buddha, effectively excluding the Dalai Lama, who traditionally can play an important role in giving recognition to candidate reincarnates.

For the first time China has given the Government the power to ensure that no new living Buddha can be identified, sounding a possible death knell to a mystical system that dates back at least as far as the 12th century.

China already insists that only the Government can approve the appointments of Tibet’s two most important monks, the Dalai Lama and the Panchen Lama. The Dalai Lama’s announcement in May 1995 that a search inside Tibet — and with the co- operation of a prominent abbot — had identified the 11th reincarnation of the Panchen Lama, who died in 1989, enraged Beijing. That prompted the Communist authorities to restart the search and to send a senior Politburo member to Lhasa to oversee the final choice. This resulted in top Communist officials presiding over a ceremony at the main Jokhang temple in Lhasa in which names of three boys inscribed on ivory sticks were placed inside a golden urn and a lot was then drawn to find the true reincarnation.

The boy chosen by the Dalai Lama has disappeared. The abbot who worked with the Dalai Lama was jailed and has since vanished. Several sets of rules on seeking out “soul boys” were promulgated in 1995, but were effectively in abeyance and hundreds of living Buddhas are now believed to live inside and outside China.

All Tibetans believe in reincarnation, but only the holiest or most outstanding individuals are believed to be recognisable — a tulku, or apparent body. One Tibetan monk told The Times: “In the past there was no such regulation. The management of living Buddhas is becoming more strict.”

The search for a reincarnation is a mystical process involving clues left by the deceased and visions among leading monks on where to look. The current Dalai Lama, the fourteenth of the line, was identified in 1937 when monks came to his village.

China has long insisted that it must have the final say over the appointment of the most senior lamas. Tibet experts said that the new regulations may also be aimed at limiting the influence of new lamas


Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article2194682.ece

Sounds ridiciolous, I knew about fake-Products of China, but Fake-Buddhas?




Gruß,
Boche

Ægir
Monday, August 6th, 2007, 01:21 AM
I don’t thank the government in the States is any better and I think it would do the same thing if it had the chance!

spaceman
Monday, August 6th, 2007, 02:15 AM
if you were familiar with Chinese history, or the history of Chinese governance, you'll be exactly expecting this sort of thing. Control is one thing that is common to all Chinese governments, from the imperial, to republican, to communist. The only surprise is why they hadn't done it sooner.

Oski
Monday, August 6th, 2007, 02:26 AM
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h49/dark1990/commie.jpg

Outdoorsman
Monday, August 6th, 2007, 02:31 AM
I'm just amused by the spectacle of Commies trying to ban reincarnation.

Northerner
Monday, August 20th, 2007, 05:17 PM
Monday, Aug. 20, 2007 11:29 a.m. EDT

The Chinese Communist dictatorship has now reached into the afterlife – authorities have banned Buddhist monks in Tibet from reincarnating without government permission.

In what Newsweek calls "one of history’s more absurd acts of totalitarianism,” China’s State Administration for Religious Affairs issued a statement saying the new law is "an important move to institutionalize management of reincarnation.”

China’s true motive, however, is to squelch the influence of the Dalai Lama, Tibet’s spiritual and political leader.

"By barring any Buddhist monks living outside China from seeking reincarnation, the law effectively gives Chinese authorities the power to choose the next Dalai Lama, whose soul, by tradition, is reborn as a new human to continue the work of relieving suffering,” Newsweek reports.

That means that after the death of the current Dalai Lama – who has lived in exile in India since 1959 – there could be two successors, one chosen by China and the other by Buddhist monks.

Source:NewsMax (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/8/20/113105.shtml?s=ic)

Ælfhere
Monday, August 20th, 2007, 06:12 PM
The Chinese Communist dictatorship has now reached into the afterlife – authorities have banned Buddhist monks in Tibet from reincarnating without government permission.

In what Newsweek calls "one of history’s more absurd acts of totalitarianism,” China’s State Administration for Religious Affairs issued a statement saying the new law is "an important move to institutionalize management of reincarnation.”

Wow. The commies sure are having delusions of grandeur. :rolleyes:

The Lawspeaker
Friday, November 16th, 2007, 03:32 PM
I'm just amused by the spectacle of Commies trying to ban reincarnation.


This "policy" ("chuckles") of the Chinese Government should be iawarded the Joke Of The Year Award. I can't even take this seriously for one simple second. .... Laughable !


Met vriendelijke groet,
Lögsögumaður

Fortis_in_Arduis
Friday, November 16th, 2007, 07:10 PM
Who the f*** do these people think they are? :p

These gits need a dressing down.

East-Asian people are so given towards personality cults and totalitarian dictatorships.

Next World
Friday, November 16th, 2007, 07:50 PM
When my mom read this to me, I thought she had purchased a copy of the onion (satirist publication). To my surprise it was Newsweek. Now, I wonder how exactly the Chinese plan to keep the Dalai Lama from reincarnating there. What's more, I kind of have a feeling he won't want to reincarnate there. Maybe some nice peaceful island the Chinese have yet to find. Or maybe the Chinese government will get fried before the old guy kicks it.

Soldier of Wodann
Saturday, November 17th, 2007, 08:27 AM
I don’t thank the government in the States is any better and I think it would do the same thing if it had the chance!

No, they'd just tax it. :D

This story makes me laugh. I guess the Chinese will try anything (outside of actually being communist) to prove their Communism. :p

SwordOfTheVistula
Saturday, November 17th, 2007, 08:33 AM
East-Asian people are so given towards personality cults and totalitarian dictatorships.

Peoples outside northern Europe in general are susceptible to this sort of stuff, which is why I am not eager for them to become voting blocs in our countries.

Leof
Saturday, November 17th, 2007, 08:50 AM
Didn't the Catholic church outlaw purgatory not too long ago? This just proves that mixing church and states, at least in this way, has terrible consequences.