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Tifilis
Sunday, November 30th, 2003, 10:14 PM
Perhaps this thread belongs at Studies/Anthropology (General), but can someone give me examples of Alpinid females? In like Coons pictures and stuff like that there's only men...

Triglav
Sunday, November 30th, 2003, 10:50 PM
Perhaps this thread belongs at Studies/Anthropology (General), but can someone give me examples of Alpinid females? In like Coons pictures and stuff like that there's only men...

You can find a few examples here:

http://www.white-history.com/earlson/hfk/reoehchap2d.htm
http://www.white-history.com/earlson/hfk/aracegal.htm

Tifilis
Sunday, November 30th, 2003, 11:05 PM
Have already seen them... I was hoping you coluld give me som "living" examples? And not only from these old plates.. ;)

Ewergrin
Sunday, November 30th, 2003, 11:52 PM
I am interested in seeing possible photos as well. Nordish.com does not have an active Alpinid link.

Evolved
Monday, December 1st, 2003, 06:01 AM
I always say Christina Ricci is a perfect example of an Alpine woman.

Short stature, brunette pigmentation (usually an ability to tan), brachycephalic, round head shape, short low-rooted or upturned nose, small chin, rounded and broad forehead, chubby or a tendency toward fatness.

I asked an veteran Boobiologist and he agreed with me that UP women have bigger boobs on average. :P

http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/images/future_plumpers/christina_ricci/cr_scr07.jpg

(please avert your impressionable young eyes to the blatant display of evil female nipples)
http://www.100x100paparazzi.com/fotos/christina_ricci.jpg

She looks kind of anorexic in the second set of pics.

They should put male and female examples in anthropology texts and websites. How else can we know how to classify women if it's not explained well?

Frans_Jozef
Monday, December 1st, 2003, 05:59 PM
I am interested in seeing possible photos as well. Nordish.com does not have an active Alpinid link.

Nielsen(Dane) Broca(Frenchman and Beethoven(German, with Flemish roots) are typical alpines.

Frans_Jozef
Monday, December 1st, 2003, 06:10 PM
Nielsen(Dane) Broca(Frenchman and Beethoven(German, with Flemish roots) are typical alpines.

the german actor Werner Schnitzer from the "krimi" series, Siska, on ZDF(much more masculine and weichathletisch in constitution):


http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/23/0,1872,2012279,00.html

cosmocreator
Monday, December 1st, 2003, 06:35 PM
I think Troy Gentry from Montgomery Gentry is an Alpinid.


http://countrymusic.about.com/library/graphics00/troy.jpg

Frans_Jozef
Wednesday, December 3rd, 2003, 04:00 PM
the german actor Werner Schnitzer from the "krimi" series, Siska, on ZDF(much more masculine and weichathletisch in constitution):


http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/23/0,1872,2012279,00.html

Another round-up of the usual suspects, Dietrich Eckart, Georges Sorel and a handsome Waldenser girl from Asti, Piemont:

Nordgau
Wednesday, December 3rd, 2003, 06:48 PM
the german actor Werner Schnitzer from the "krimi" series, Siska, on ZDF(much more masculine and weichathletisch in constitution):
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What about Rolf Schimpf from the Krimi series Der Alte? Looks quite Alpine in his head and face shape, but these people are all so light...

Another interesting annotation to this series in racial aspects is that it is - as far as I know - the first German TV series where a Negro got a leading role (last photo). $%#@ۤ&

http://www.agentur-palz.de/images/schimpf.gif http://www.agentur-palz.de/images/schimpf2.gif http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/derkommissar/deralte/schimpf1.jpg http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/derkommissar/deralte/alte-xx.jpg http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/derkommissar/deralte/alte-6.jpg http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/derkommissar/deralte/schimpf3.jpg http://www.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/krimi/images/alte1.jpg

Newgrange
Sunday, March 14th, 2004, 12:23 PM
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary "Alpine" definition:of or relating to a physical type characterized by a broad head, stockiness, medium height, and brown hair or eyes often regarded as constituting a branch of the Caucasian race

any studies showing if Alpines have same dna profile as Basques,Welsh and Irish
my theory is Alpines could belong in haplogroup 1 type found in those considered to be the orginal group to inhabit europe. excluding the neanderthals

Newgrange
Sunday, March 14th, 2004, 12:25 PM
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary "Alpine" definition:of or relating to a physical type characterized by a broad head, stockiness, medium height, and brown hair or eyes often regarded as constituting a branch of the Caucasian race

here are two good examples both from Germany: Nadine Jansen, Bavarian ?
Chloe Vervier maybe near German/French border ?

executiona9
Sunday, March 14th, 2004, 12:52 PM
Jansen is a dutch last name

Newgrange
Sunday, March 14th, 2004, 06:56 PM
Jansen is a dutch last nameNadine Jansen's Stats:
Measurements: 41E-30-38
Height: 5' 4''
Hometown: Eberswalde , Germany
Birthday: December 3rd

Mac Seafraidh
Sunday, March 14th, 2004, 07:09 PM
I like Voluptuous women, but I think Jansen is Danish actually. Some of the features of those women like Nadine and Chloe are not Alpine.

executiona9
Sunday, March 14th, 2004, 10:21 PM
``Nadine Jansen's Stats:
Measurements: 41E-30-38
Height: 5' 4''
Hometown: Eberswalde , Germany
Birthday: December 3rd``


Well what I meant to say is that she may be born or live in Germany but her Dutch last name indicates that she must have some ancestry from the Netherlands or Flanders

Abby Normal
Monday, March 15th, 2004, 06:52 AM
Those are not good examples!

Here's a better one: Christina Ricci. She's the coolest! I guess she's my favorite Alpine woman (besides myself, of course! :P )

http://www.nightworks.de/ricci/thumbnails/ricci32.jpg

old aryan
Monday, March 15th, 2004, 07:02 AM
Those are not good examples!

Here's a better one: Christina Ricci. She's the coolest! I guess she's my favorite Alpine woman (besides myself, of course! :P )

http://www.nightworks.de/ricci/thumbnails/ricci32.jpg
Really? She is Alpine?
Forgive my ignorance here, but I thought that Alpine women had some blonde to them.
Christina Ricci, here, looks Southern European/Mediterranean to me.
Am I missing something (no disrespect intended)?:)

Abby Normal
Monday, March 15th, 2004, 07:12 AM
Really? She is Alpine?
Forgive my ignorance here, but I thought that Alpine women had some blonde to them.
Christina Ricci, here, looks Southern European/Mediterranean to me.
Am I missing something (no disrespect intended)?:)
Nah, I personally don't think they're blonde (at least most of them aren't).

Southern European does not necessarily equal Mediterranean... How is she Mediterranean, anyway?

Anyway, it seems like she's 1/2 Scottish and 1/2 Italian.

Euclides
Monday, March 15th, 2004, 05:10 PM
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary "Alpine" definition:of or relating to a physical type characterized by a broad head, stockiness, medium height, and brown hair or eyes often regarded as constituting a branch of the Caucasian race

here are two good examples both from Germany: Nadine Jansen, Bavarian ?
Chloe Vervier maybe near German/French border ?


It will be bether in the ''Racial Classifications/Anthropology (Physical) ''

Nordgau
Monday, March 15th, 2004, 05:18 PM
Jansen is also an originary name in north, in Lower Germany, though not in south Germany.


It will be bether in the ''Racial Classifications/Anthropology (Physical) ''

Indeed.

executiona9
Monday, March 15th, 2004, 05:42 PM
``Jansen is also an originary name in north, in Lower Germany, though not in south Germany.``

Really? I didnt know that. I thought Jansen was only Dutch. But I believe you if you say so

old aryan
Tuesday, March 16th, 2004, 05:36 AM
Nah, I personally don't think they're blonde (at least most of them aren't).

Southern European does not necessarily equal Mediterranean... How is she Mediterranean, anyway?

Anyway, it seems like she's 1/2 Scottish and 1/2 Italian.
The dark hair, and I believe that she is short - I've always thought that those were Med characteristics more than not. If I'm wrong here, please steer me in the right direction:) ;)

Abby Normal
Tuesday, March 16th, 2004, 05:40 AM
The dark hair, and I believe that she is short - I've always thought that those were Med characteristics more than not. If I'm wrong here, please steer me in the right direction:) ;)
Hmm. I'm no expert, but I believe Mediterraneans have fine bone structure and long, narrow faces much like Nordics. Of course, dark hair and shortness are not restricted to Meds.

Anyway, Nadine Jansen... Poor girl! :ccolor

old aryan
Tuesday, March 16th, 2004, 05:54 AM
Hmm. I'm no expert, but I believe Mediterraneans have fine bone structure and long, narrow faces much like Nordics. Of course, dark hair and shortness are not restricted to Meds.

Anyway, Nadine Jansen... Poor girl! :ccolor
Okay, point well taken:) . I'm not much of an expert either, so I'm open to suggestions while I try to gather info on this:D .

Hey, I do like your avatar....provocative & direct:) .
Don't look at mine, though...in lieu of something to download I have resorted to hmmmmmm..... cartoons:| :| :| ...but I do think that the target in the background fits me well, don't you?:D Ha!!!....er...Yah:|

cosmocreator
Tuesday, March 16th, 2004, 06:05 AM
The dark hair, and I believe that she is short - I've always thought that those were Med characteristics more than not. If I'm wrong here, please steer me in the right direction:) ;)


Most Alpine have brown hair. Some are blond and some are redheads.

Esther_Helena
Tuesday, March 16th, 2004, 09:51 PM
I'll see what I can find on Christina Ricci's ancestry. Probably not much. Alpine or no, she is certainly more beautiful that Lady Tatas. Someone get that woman back to sugery for a breast reduction, her back MUST be killing her. Those cannot be real. Just gross.

Abby Normal
Tuesday, March 16th, 2004, 09:55 PM
WOAH! Yeah, I'd definitely say she's Alpine, but what is up with her chest? As someone with small to medium sized ta-tas, pictures like this (http://sexualrecords.com/largbrest.jpg) weird me out! :D ;)

Courtesy of SexualRecords.com:

Largest Breasts
Large breasts are another subject that appeals to MD’s prurient interests, so cases are bountiful in sex literature. After reviewing a number of photos (hey, it’s all for science), I’ve seen mammaries ranging from huge to unimaginably colossal. "The Sexual Anatomy of Woman" by W. F. Benedict tells the cases of one 14-year-old who had breasts weighing 16 lbs. and of a woman of thirty who had knockers weighing 21 pounds each. Another book, Human Oddities by Martin Monestier, thoughtfully encloses a topless photo of a woman with 44-pound breasts measuring 33 inches in circumference.

Now it seems China wants in on the act. In 1995 their official news agency Xinhua ran the headline, "Twelve-year-old Sprouts Gargantuan Breasts." Sounds like our kind of journalism. "Each breast of Ting Jiafen, of Changba village, Gudong Township, Pingtang County, has grown to dimensions of 48 cm long and 30 cm high, weighing about 10 kg," it reported (meaning Ting would wear a size S bra, assuming they made them that big). Her mother, Chen Guoxia, elaborated, "Her breasts began to grow last February, and they were as large as fists by May, getting bigger and bigger afterwards."

Esther_Helena
Tuesday, March 16th, 2004, 10:09 PM
I didn't find much on her. Her parents are Ralph and Sarah Ricci, siblings are Dante, Pia, and Rafael.

I did find this strange thing though...

http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/hyenatrax/ricci.jpg

Abby Normal
Tuesday, March 16th, 2004, 10:12 PM
I'll see what I can find on Christina Ricci's ancestry. Probably not much. Alpine or no, she is certainly more beautiful that Lady Tatas. Someone get that woman back to sugery for a breast reduction, her back MUST be killing her. Those cannot be real. Just gross.
I know what you mean, but I'll have to disagree with you on one thing: Those are most definitely real (do they even make implants that big?). :D

Nordhammer
Thursday, March 25th, 2004, 11:28 PM
Really? She is Alpine?
Forgive my ignorance here, but I thought that Alpine women had some blonde to them.
Christina Ricci, here, looks Southern European/Mediterranean to me.
Am I missing something (no disrespect intended)?:)

Alpines are characteristically medium to dark brunette, nonfreckled, with brown eyes; short, stocky, and brachycephalic. They are more typically found in Central and Southern Europe. Sometimes reduced Borrebys and Brünns can be mistaken for Alpines. "Alpine" can be somewhat broad, as this term can be applied to some degree from Northern Europe to Western Asia, even though there are significant differences in pigmentation and other traits.

For instance I wouldn't call Wolfgang Puck an Alpine, but many might. Ricci is a good example of a female Alpine in head and body form.

Gareth
Sunday, September 26th, 2004, 04:57 PM
Ricci is a good example of a female Alpine in head and body form. People here always consider her pure Alpine, but she is not.

Ricci, as you might expect, is an Italian name. "But the Italian blood has been bred out of me. There's an Italian four or five generations back who married an Irish woman and they all had sons. So they married more Irish women, there were more sons, and more Irish women. Now I'm basically Scots-Irish."
(...) Her dad, Ralph, however obviously was fond of Italy, since he gave his kids all italian names and loved the italian cuisine.

Tancred
Sunday, September 26th, 2004, 11:48 PM
The dark hair, and I believe that she is short - I've always thought that those were Med characteristics more than not. If I'm wrong here, please steer me in the right direction:) ;)
You seem to understand little or nothing about racial types. Having dark hair is not enough to be classified as a Med - otherwise over 90% of mankind would be Meds. [expurgated]

Please, read and follow the rules. Thank you.
~ Johannes de León

Tancred
Sunday, September 26th, 2004, 11:54 PM
People here always consider her pure Alpine, but she is not.

So what is she then? Seems very Alpinid to me.


Most Alpine have brown hair. Some are blond and some are redheads.

Not true. No true Alpinids have fair or red hair - these are purely Nordic traits. Alpinids have black to light brown hair.

Vestmannr
Monday, September 27th, 2004, 03:11 AM
Not true. No true Alpinids have fair or red hair - these are purely Nordic traits. Alpinids have black to light brown hair.

Aye, which is why often ash blonde brachycephals with rounded features are often misclassified as Alpinid, when they are actually Borreby or East Baltic (depending on other factors.) Ultimately, Alpinids and Borreby do have a shared origin though.

Utilitarianism
Thursday, September 30th, 2004, 03:51 PM
Danes were dolichocephalic a thousand years ago but are brachycephalic at the present time.


I think that this process of broadening head form is not simply because of influence from the south and east but that they simply evolved a broader head.

In other words they are brachycephalic noords.

Frans_Jozef
Sunday, September 11th, 2005, 11:49 PM
What about Rolf Schimpf from the Krimi series Der Alte? Looks quite Alpine in his head and face shape, but these people are all so light...

Another interesting annotation to this series in racial aspects is that it is - as far as I know - the first German TV series where a Negro got a leading role (last photo). $%#@ۤ&

http://www.agentur-palz.de/images/schimpf.gif http://www.agentur-palz.de/images/schimpf2.gif http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/derkommissar/deralte/schimpf1.jpg http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/derkommissar/deralte/alte-xx.jpg http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/derkommissar/deralte/alte-6.jpg http://www.mitglied.lycos.de/derkommissar/deralte/schimpf3.jpg http://www.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/krimi/images/alte1.jpg


The darker Alpin(o)ids in Central East Europe, including Germanic or former Germanic areas, have probably absorbed residual contigents of neolithic Danubians, liable to contain a non-Europid element (suggestion of a African tendency in the cranio-facial features, although the accretion of Veddoid bloodlines - from Arabia?- would explain the shortening of the skull).

Gareth
Monday, September 12th, 2005, 03:33 AM
Roundheadedness could be correlated with a shorter base cord. The breadth of the skull was discoverd to have been variable over the centuries.

This Mongoloid skull would give the impression that the ear is closer to the occiput in the living:

http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/7586/mongoloidbottom6ba.png

The principle is continued in other regions, especially the Savolaxid type of the East-Baltid race is short-headed. I have seen blonde Nordid Russians with short heads.

That again can be a hint of Coon's theory of Dinaricization.

Craniofacial Growth and Development (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=30283)

I had to take some photos recently for my family, in my free time I took these:

The girls from the right to the left: grandmother (very pyknic), mother (Nordid+Dalofaelid?), grandchild/daughter (Atlantid+Dinarid?):
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/3223/dsc00017b4ma.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg355.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00017 b4ma.jpg)

In the other pictures you can also see the second grandchild, a vrile Nordid:
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1263/dsc00023b6sd.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg175.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00023 b6sd.jpg)http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/88/dsc000213qv.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg34.im ageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc000213 qv.jpg)http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8666/dsc001012fc.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg175.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00101 2fc.jpg)http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5227/dsc000377hc.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg175.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00037 7hc.jpg)

"Gracile Alpinids", the profile is rather delicious:
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4228/dsc000171hq.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg256.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00017 1hq.jpg) http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/8131/dsc000414ve.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg49.im ageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc000414 ve.jpg) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4226/dsc000913og.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg171.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00091 3og.jpg)

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2198/swgermanynordicalpinidstrain8t.jpg

More Alpinids from the same region:
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8454/dsc001080vn.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg215.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00108 0vn.jpg)http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1182/dsc001193qk.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg98.im ageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc001193 qk.jpg)http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/3843/image18vn.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg391.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Dimage18v n.jpg)http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8830/dsc001800ef.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg171.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00180 0ef.jpg)
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/8914/dsc001695nm.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg388.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00169 5nm.jpg)http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3057/dsc001687sr.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg375.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00168 7sr.jpg)http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/9535/piano3ch.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg388.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Dpiano3ch .jpg)http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/9506/dsc001589ur.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg384.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00158 9ur.jpg)
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/448/dsc001277aa.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg384.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00127 7aa.jpg)http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/2681/dsc001491jb.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg384.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00149 1jb.jpg)http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/2481/dsc001893ou.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg391.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00189 3ou.jpg)http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/8179/dsc001926jb.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg371.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00192 6jb.jpg)
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/3486/dsc001799pa.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg391.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00179 9pa.jpg)http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2171/dsc001117gn.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg291.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00111 7gn.jpg)http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/1286/dsc001705cd.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg391.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00170 5cd.jpg)http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2209/dsc001666pr.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg291.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00166 6pr.jpg)
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/2955/dsc001757as.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg384.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00175 7as.jpg)http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6030/dsc001594kr.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg215.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00159 4kr.jpg)http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9584/dsc001189cz.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg215.i mageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc00118 9cz.jpg)http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/976/dsc001123rv.th.jpg (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg82.im ageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Ddsc001123 rv.jpg)

See also:
http://forums.skadi.net/showpost.php?p=315283&postcount=86

dehook
Wednesday, November 30th, 2005, 03:16 AM
I'm sure she's been mentioned before on Skadi, but I think Charlotte Church is a good example of an Alpinid woman. Agreed?

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/MMPH/C55655.jpg http://images.art.com/images/-/Charlotte-Church--C10102631.jpeg



http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00005Q7HG.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

cosmocreator
Wednesday, November 30th, 2005, 09:18 AM
I think so.

dehook
Sunday, December 4th, 2005, 03:46 AM
Thought I'd share one of my favourite paintings of all time: "Bright Eyes" by Sir John Everett Millais. It appears to be of a beautiful Alpine girl. I scanned it from the book "A Scottish Collection - Treasures from Aberdeen Art Gallery".

http://dehook0.tripod.com/brighteyes.jpg

Ealhswið
Thursday, August 24th, 2006, 07:06 PM
Janet Gaynor:

http://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/gaynor_janet_320x240.jpg

Alpine?

Agrippa
Thursday, August 24th, 2006, 10:24 PM
Predominantely at least it seems.

Ealhswið
Saturday, August 26th, 2006, 07:10 PM
Queen Victoria:

http://www.icecastle.org/artwork/images/Queen%20Victoria%20%28Winterhalter,%2018 43%29_jpg.jpg

Enlil
Thursday, September 28th, 2006, 09:33 PM
I have an acquaintance claiming she's 1/9th samish, though she looks very alpinid to me. Is alpinid more dominant when mixed with for instance nordid & east baltid? (and.. are samish people / lapps even alpinid? :-o)

Oswiu
Thursday, September 28th, 2006, 11:01 PM
I have an acquaintance claiming she's 1/9th samish, though she looks very alpinid to me.
So, her three parents had three parents each? Interesting trisexual species your friend is a member of. What planet is she from again?

Enlil
Friday, September 29th, 2006, 02:07 PM
I meant 1/8th. It might be even less, I don't remember, but still, it seems quite dominant.

Kurtz
Wednesday, December 27th, 2006, 11:57 PM
It is important no to mistake fat people with Alpinids though

Balzac, I think, is a good example of french Alpinid
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/HBalzac.jpg

Sigurd
Thursday, February 15th, 2007, 11:44 PM
Well, there is a thread dedicated to Keltic-Nordids, one to Atlantids, and one to Brunettes in general - the predominance always towards the more progressive of Brunettes. So well, here I prompt the public of Skadi to post Brunette Alpin(o)id women. I'll take some time to look through the internet myself to find some of the better known examples, but well...I felt it needed a thread to get people up to the idea of posting them. There's a good few attractive ones, too amongst this type. The same rules as to standards apply as for the others, just in case. ;)

Frans_Jozef
Tuesday, February 27th, 2007, 09:05 PM
Wendy Padbury

http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=94711&d=1172610214


http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=94712&d=1172610214 http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=94713&d=1172610214

Agrippa
Thursday, March 1st, 2007, 09:30 PM
Christina Ricci:
http://www.carpetdiem.it/binary_files/images/upmake_ChristinaRicci_55231.jpg

Alpinid textbook examples:
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4310/alpinowxl4.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alpinowxl4.jpg)

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6692/ostisch6yl5.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ostisch6yl5.jpg)

Siebenbürgerin
Sunday, December 27th, 2009, 10:18 AM
Here one of the contestants for Miss Switzerland, her name is Alexandra Feybli. She has a round face and brown eyes. Her haircolour is probably dyed. She reminds a little bit of Christina Ricci. Does she qualify as Alpinid in your view?

http://www.20min.ch/images/content/2/6/3/26393722/6/2.jpg

http://is.blick.ch/img/gen/i/x/HBixFLpH_Pxgen_r_600x675.jpg

Nachtengel
Sunday, December 27th, 2009, 11:12 AM
http://forums.skadi.net/photoplog/images/25637/1_Alpinid4.JPG

http://forums.skadi.net/photoplog/images/25637/1_Alpinid2.JPG

http://forums.skadi.net/photoplog/images/25637/1_Alpinid3.JPG

Waldstein
Sunday, December 27th, 2009, 11:15 AM
Here one of the contestants for Miss Switzerland, her name is Alexandra Feybli. She has a round face and brown eyes. Her haircolour is probably dyed. She reminds a little bit of Christina Ricci. Does she qualify as Alpinid in your view?

http://www.20min.ch/images/content/2/6/3/26393722/6/2.jpg

http://is.blick.ch/img/gen/i/x/HBixFLpH_Pxgen_r_600x675.jpg

Positive. She is quite typical.
Perhaps some slight Gracile-Med influence.

Siebenbürgerin
Monday, December 28th, 2009, 11:10 AM
What about Juliane Gau, Miss Ostdeutschland from 2006? Or is she having some Baltid influences?

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,573003,00.jpg

http://www.moz.de/index.php/Common/Image/field/image_data/id/41253

Agrippa
Monday, December 28th, 2009, 12:09 PM
I'd say she is Baltid with Nordid influences, no strong Alpinid influence.

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/6773/franoisegatel5fo.jpg
(Françoise Gatel - France)

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5208/bretons085jnbu1.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bretons085jnbu1.jpg)
(Pred. Alpinid girls from the Brittany, France)

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4194/janacz163ut0.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=janacz163ut0.jpg)
("Jana" - Czech, 163 cm, eyes green)

http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=102902&stc=1&d=1262001665
Czech woman

http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=102903&stc=1&d=1262002035
Alpinid woman after L.F. Clauss

http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=102904&stc=1&d=1262002101
Pred. Alpinid women after H.F.K. Günther, left being very infantile, probably Mongoliform influence, right being more progressive in comparison and for an Alpinid woman in general

Eastalpinids seem to be more progressive, harmonious, gracile-leptomorphic build and also more often with a fluent border towards Pontid and Dinarid.
http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=102909&stc=1&d=1262030357
(Pred. Eastalpinid woman from Moldova, 166 cm)

rainman
Monday, December 28th, 2009, 09:11 PM
The miss switzerland has the same asian/med looking eyes that I have exept they are bigger. And then just above me that last blond woman- similar eyes. High cheekbones- those are apline? Maybe I'm more alpine than I think.

Why do so many of them have almost asian like traits? What is an alpine like a robust brachy-cephalic caucasion with minor asian like facial features?

Thusnelda
Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 03:06 AM
Why do so many of them have almost asian like traits? What is an alpine like a robust brachy-cephalic caucasion with minor asian like facial features?
Alexandra Feybli doesn´t look very Alpinid to me. :| There´s something exotic with her eyes. Regular Alpinids have no slanted eyes - that features you call "minor asian like".

Kathrin Hölzl is predominantly Alpinid:

http://www.bgland24.de/bilder/2009/10/22/499981/1624753708-kathrin-hoelzl.9.jpg

http://www.gap2011.com/xfiles_a6/1234457043_5.jpg

http://p3.focus.de/img/gen/y/P/HByPjBHY_Pxgen_r_467xA.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Kathrin_Hölzl_Semmering_2008.jpg/401px-Kathrin_Hölzl_Semmering_2008.jpg

Nachtengel
Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 03:24 AM
^ IMO she's Dinarid altered by Alpinid rather.

Matrix
Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 03:35 AM
Alexandra Feybli doesn´t look very Alpinid to me. :| There´s something exotic with her eyes. Regular Alpinids have no slanted eyes - that features you call "minor asian like".
They do in fact, rainman made an excellent observation and to answer his question, it is because the Alpinid 'race' is a stabilized blend resulting from a mix between Armenoid and Lappoid. The Asiatic looking eyes come from the Lappoid, which is an incipiently Mongoloid type.


Kathrin Hölzl is predominantly Alpinid:

http://www.bgland24.de/bilder/2009/10/22/499981/1624753708-kathrin-hoelzl.9.jpg

http://www.gap2011.com/xfiles_a6/1234457043_5.jpg

http://p3.focus.de/img/gen/y/P/HByPjBHY_Pxgen_r_467xA.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Kathrin_Hölzl_Semmering_2008.jpg/401px-Kathrin_Hölzl_Semmering_2008.jpg
She's got the eyes too. She may be German, but she isn't Germanic.

Nachtengel
Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 03:50 AM
Alexandra Feybli wears heavy eye liner which can alter her classification. I found a photo of her without make up.

http://www.sf.tv/webtool/data/pics/misschmanual/alexandra_feybli_bikini.jpg

Where exactly do you see slanted eyes in Kathrin Hölzl? She is just squinting.

Waldstein
Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 11:26 AM
There is in fact nothing mongoliform about her eyes:

http://is.blick.ch/img/gen/t/k/HBtku2Sy_Pxgen_r_467x700.jpg

After having studied more image material, I alter my original classification: In my opinion, she is a typical example of a Subnordid woman (Alpinid-Nordid mix), whereas the Alpinid, component is still dominant in her: She is quite infantilised and looks brachy- to mesokephalic. The shape of the nose is also typical Alpinid.

Regarding Kathrin Hölzl: She is too mature and robust (even quite manly looking to be honest) for an Alpinid. In my view, she is mainly Dinar(o)id with some admixture of Cromagnid (Faelid), slightly altered by Alpinid.

Siebenbürgerin
Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 11:42 AM
What about Inka Weickel from Germany? She looks infantilised.

http://p3.focus.de/img/gen/U/K/HBUKAqqa4EZ_Pxgen_r_268xA.jpg

http://www.liveindia.com/missworld/Germany.jpg

Nachtengel
Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 11:52 AM
Btw; While Alpinids are infantile (paedomorphic), being infaintililized doesn't necessarily make one an Alpinid.

Here's a thread with paedomorphic examples:

Post Examples of Racially Infantile/Paedomorphic Individuals (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=66528)

Sigurd
Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 07:22 PM
They do in fact, rainman made an excellent observation and to answer his question, it is because the Alpinid 'race' is a stabilized blend resulting from a mix between Armenoid and Lappoid.

Proof? Explanation of your theory? I'm curious - how did Armenoids and Lappoids, but types which are anything but common in Central Europe, cross to result in Alpinids?

Secondly, how do you explain the infantilisation pattern which gradually occurs to make it impossible to draw even a broad Borreby/Alpinid line if they have inherently different origin?


She's got the eyes too. She may be German, but she isn't Germanic.

Care to finally explain what makes you believe that not all Germans are Germanic, and why brown eyes are inherently non-Germanic? This question has been posed to you in several threads now where you've spread your theory, on various occasions, and you've since failed to provide any material or even rationale, whether dubious or solid, to substantiate your claim.

Because if a claim is not substantiated by any type of evidence or at least sound reasoning, it is not really much worth at all, I am afraid. If claims didn't need to be substantiated I could just as well claim that the moon and stars were in fact green and that everyone else were just colour-blind. :P

Nachtengel
Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 07:32 PM
What BS, Alpinids are just reduced UPs.


Alpine: A reduced and somewhat foetalized survivor of the Upper Palaeolithic population in Late Pleistocene France, highly brachycephalized; seems to represent in a large measure the bearer of the brachycephalic factor in Cro-Magnon. Close approximations to this type appear also in the Balkans and in the highlands of western and central Asia, suggesting that its ancestral prototype was widespread in Late Pleistocene times. In modern races it sometimes appears in a relatively pure form, sometimes as an element in mixed brachycephalic populations of multiple origin. It may have served in both Pleistocene and modern times as a bearer of the tendency toward brachycephalization into various populations.

Source: Coon, 1939

Btw, can we have a silliest statements made on Skadi collection thread? It would be funnier than the funny pictures thread. :P

Siebenbürgerin
Tuesday, December 29th, 2009, 10:43 PM
Another Miss Switzerland candidate from 2009, Emilie Lindblom, Miss Bern seems a little bit Alpine to me.

http://is.blick.ch/img/gen/3/E/HB3ESWzd_Pxgen_r_519x584.jpg

http://www.marcaherren.ch/images/fotoalbum/leseabend004g.jpg

http://www.sf.tv/webtool/data/pics/misschmanual/emilie_lindblom_tennis.jpg

Waldstein
Wednesday, December 30th, 2009, 04:27 PM
Emilie Lindblom is mainly Westbaltid and to a lesser degree Cromagnid (Faelid). Her parents are both Swedish as far as I know. In comparison to Alexandra Feybli she is less infantilised, a little more robust, which is due to the stronger (unreduced) Cromagnid influence: If you watch the interview with her on Youtube, you can see the angular jaws quite well.

Regarding Inka Weickel: She looks Subnordid/Baltid to me. She is also more robust than Alexandra Feybli and seems to have additional Easteuropid influence. By the way: Interesting idea to name a girl after an ancient Southern American Sungod. :bconfused

rainman
Wednesday, December 30th, 2009, 07:37 PM
So this is suggesting a common ancestor with Asians? A paliolithic one? There needs to be a good book with lots of pictures on this. Not the 100 year old crappy book everyone links to online.

Nachtengel
Friday, January 1st, 2010, 02:18 PM
I searched for Matrix's theory out of curiosity, to see if he made it up or follows someone else's theories, and found this:


Czekanowski classified Europe into four pure races. The four pure races were the Nordic, Ibero-Insular, Lapponoid and Armenoid. The Lapponoid included the central and eastern Europeans along Europe longitudely as well as the Sami people of Northern Europe.

Czekanowski classified six subraces in Europe which were mixed types of the pure races. The six mixed racial subraces were: the Northwestern (Nordic and Ibero-Insular), the Subnordic (Nordic and Lapponoid), Alpine (Lapponoid and Armenoid), the Littoral (Ibero-Insular and Armenoid), Pile Dwelling (Ibero-Insular and Lapponoid) and the Dinaric (Nordic and Armenoid). The Pile Dwelling subrace lived around the Swiss lakes.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/65/Jan_Czekanowski_Square_of_Pure_and_Mixed _Races_2.JPG

This map shows the racial classification scheme of the anthropologist Jan Czekanowski in his book AAnz, vol. 5 (1928).

Pure Races

1. α =Nordic race
2. ε =Ibero-Insular race
3. λ =Lapponoid race
4. χ =Armenoid race

Mixed Types

1. ι =Northwestern mixed type
2. γ =Subnordic mixed type
3. ω =Alpine mixed type
4. ρ =Littoral mixed type
5. β =Pile Dwelling mixed type
6. δ =Dinaric mixed type

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Czekanowski

Pallantides
Friday, January 1st, 2010, 02:29 PM
Some of them look very similar to the modern Sámi.

Deary
Wednesday, January 20th, 2010, 04:00 PM
French singer Emilie Simon
http://theantihype.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/050bourges-emilie-simon.jpg

http://thebigredapple.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/emilie-simon.jpg

http://www.poke-and-destroy.com/Emilie_Simon/slides/Emilie_Simon27.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/supergongie/emi.jpg

Huginn ok Muninn
Wednesday, January 20th, 2010, 05:00 PM
Helena Bonham Carter

http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn384/rh456785/Helena_Bonham_Carter.jpg

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2008/08/23-End/helena-bonham-carter.jpg

Waldstein
Wednesday, January 20th, 2010, 08:55 PM
Emilie Simon is more Mediterranid than anything else (possibly slightly alpinized, I agree with that.)

Helena Bonham Carter is Mediterranid, Dinarid and Cromagnid influenced IMO.

Tancred
Thursday, January 28th, 2010, 03:28 PM
I'm sure she's been mentioned before on Skadi, but I think Charlotte Church is a good example of an Alpinid woman. Agreed?

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/MMPH/C55655.jpg http://images.art.com/images/-/Charlotte-Church--C10102631.jpeg



http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00005Q7HG.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

To me she seems nordid, with some admixture, but predominantly nordid.


Here one of the contestants for Miss Switzerland, her name is Alexandra Feybli. She has a round face and brown eyes. Her haircolour is probably dyed. She reminds a little bit of Christina Ricci. Does she qualify as Alpinid in your view?

http://www.20min.ch/images/content/2/6/3/26393722/6/2.jpg

http://is.blick.ch/img/gen/i/x/HBixFLpH_Pxgen_r_600x675.jpg

No. Again, a nordid misdefined as an alpinid.


Queen Victoria:

http://www.icecastle.org/artwork/images/Queen%20Victoria%20%28Winterhalter,%2018 43%29_jpg.jpg

Nordid!

Sigurd
Thursday, January 28th, 2010, 10:07 PM
Nordid!


No. Again, a nordid misdefined as an alpinid.


To me she seems nordid, with some admixture, but predominantly nordid.

Could you point out why you consider them to be Nordid rather than Alpinid? Are there any features, besides pigment, which make you come to such a keen conclusion differing so fundamentally from the general consensus in this thread? :)

Agrippa
Friday, February 5th, 2010, 02:01 PM
Actually most women posted here are mixed, probably its more interesting to look for common people of the respective regions rather than for celebs which usually have another influence too, most of the time an elongating one.

Sigurd
Friday, February 5th, 2010, 05:22 PM
"Arguably", young Austrian skier Anna Fenninger (20). I can't see much non-Alpinid influence. ;)

http://www.bmlv.gv.at/sport/galerie/vollbild/fenninger_anna_1.jpg http://www.anna-fenninger.at/Ich/anna1.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Anna_Fenninger_Haus_2008.jpg http://www.teamrotweissrot.at/tools/imager/imager.php?file=%2Fmedia%2Fimage%2Forigi nal%2F36.jpg&width=470

Agrippa
Friday, February 5th, 2010, 05:32 PM
Yes, quite a good, relatively pretty and harmonious, example she is.

If she has admixture, its at least so low that she can still serve as a general example it seems. I'd assume she has a slight Nordid influence though, especially if looking at this f.e.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9GUlZcv_8Q

But since Alpinisation is rather a process and pure populations virtually dont exist, Alpinids in particular have more often than other variants significant other influences, even in their core area.

teutonicscult
Monday, August 9th, 2010, 12:59 AM
I always say Christina Ricci is a perfect example of an Alpine woman.



http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/images/future_plumpers/christina_ricci/cr_scr07.jpg

(please avert your impressionable young eyes to the blatant display of evil female nipples)
http://www.100x100paparazzi.com/fotos/christina_ricci.jpg





The singer in my chemical romance comes to my mind:
KSNKCfxcYvE

very alpinid.

Westbrook
Tuesday, December 21st, 2010, 06:25 AM
Short stature, brunette pigmentation (usually an ability to tan), brachycephalic, round head shape, short low-rooted or upturned nose, small chin, rounded and broad forehead, chubby or a tendency toward fatness.

This is a perfect description of me, aside from the short part. I always wondered which group I'd fall into :)

Goomer
Wednesday, June 1st, 2011, 02:36 PM
http://forums.skadi.net/photoplog/images/25637/1_Alpinid3.JPG

This woman could easily be in my direct family. She looks a lot like ME and my German/Irish Grandmother...who I resemble the most. I think there is a fair amount of Alpinid in my ancestry....as well as Celtic and Anglo Saxon. So...finally figured out my subraces lol:)

I must say, however,....on some other Alpinid description I read....it ANGERED me!...the way they described Alpinids to be basically...ugly. Just because they have larger bones and are *stocky* and have small noses. I kind of like our noses actually.

Ugh! I'm sorry....that passage made me so mad.

Yes....my family are muscular, heavy boned...(men and women alike)....a fair mix of blonde/red/brunette....and mostly light eyed. None of us have ever broken a major bone....despite some horrible falls. We are VERY strong and of the type that could train for those strong-man or woman competitions. It's just the way we are. We are average to tall overall...and very fair skinned.

I've been told my whole life that Scandinavians look and are typically built similar to us....and from the reading....perhaps this is so in parts of Norway and Denmark. Not Sweden, though. Kind of what I expected given my own knowledge.

I will now admit that I am getting kind of sick of the obsession with tall, thin, small-headed blonde Nordids. Someone please tell me why they are more *perfect* than a stocky and muscular brunette.

I mean....really.....Put one of them in a ring with an Alpinid and you tell me who will come out on top lol.
Personally, I find beauty in just about everyone......even in other races besides Caucasian. But Skadi is about Germanics so I place emphasis here.

Vent over. Thanks:)

BlessedGoddess
Thursday, June 23rd, 2011, 11:02 AM
"Arguably", young Austrian skier Anna Fenninger (20). I can't see much non-Alpinid influence. ;)

http://www.bmlv.gv.at/sport/galerie/vollbild/fenninger_anna_1.jpg

She looks like my cousin Anna Marie who lives near Hamburg. Who comes from pure northern German roots and not alpen.
Her face is a bit wider than my cousin's but they look A LOT a like!