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Carl
Tuesday, January 2nd, 2007, 12:27 PM
.... and I thought it was the 1st January 2007 - not April! But they have been dreaming again. Would it mean Norwegian troops fighting to defend Israel.....or what?? :(


""Minister calls on Israel to join Nato

""Jerusalem, 02/01/2007
""Daily Telegraph

An Israeli cabinet minister yesterday called for the Jewish State to turn its back on the Middle East region and work towards joining Nato and the European Union.

Avigdor Lieberman, a right-wing politician who serves as minister for strategic threats, claimed violence by Palestinian militants was no different from terrorist acts by jihadists against members of Nato and EU.

"Israel's diplomatic and security goal... must be clear: joining Nato and entering the European Union," he said.
"The war we are waging in the Middle East is not a war of the state of Israel alone, it is a war of the entire free world, and we are situated on the front lines.
"Today, Palestinian terrorism is part of the worldwide jihad.
"Palestinian terrorism is fuelled by al-Qa'eda, the Iranians and Hizbollah."

He rejected suggestions that membership of a group such as Nato would clip the wings of the notoriously free-thinking and often ruthless Israeli Defence Force.
"There is no doubt that membership in Nato would still afford us 100 percent freedom in military activity."
Israel has long argued its conflict with Palestinian militants is part of the wider global clash with militant jihadism.

Critics dismiss this argument saying the Palestinian question is a straightforward land dispute and they accuse Israel of dishonestly using jihadism to justify its continued illegal occupation of Palestinian land.
While Nato is not offering Israel full membership in the near future, links between it and the Jewish State have been strengthening in recent years, especially in the area of intelligence about militant Islam.
Three months ago Israel became the first non-European nation chosen by Nato to work within its Individual Cooperation Programme.

The programme specifies 27 areas of cooperation including response to terrorism, intelligence sharing, political dialogue, and a host of military and civilian issues including search and rescue operations.
Full membership would afford Israel the same guarantee of mutual defence offered to all members.
Historically, this meant that if one member of the alliance was attacked, the full might of Nato would come to its defence.

Israeli membership of Nato would mean America would be obliged to protect the Jewish State were it attacked by Iran, whose leadership repeatedly calls for Israel to be wiped off the map.
Any such guarantee through Nato, however, would simply duplicate the existing bilateral defence pact between Israel and America which provides the same threat of protection by America.
As a Middle East nation, Israel has ambitions nevertheless of being seen as a European country.
Its national soccer team plays in the European zone for World Cup qualification and Israel has long been a member of the European broadcasting union that earns it a place in the annual Eurovision Song Contest. ""


well, song-contest is one thing - we all know of that :D (!) -- but NATO used to be about the North Atlantic; we seem to have undergone some Continental drift.....

also amusing :

http://forums.skadi.net/israel_join_british_commonwealth-t85810.html?nojs=1

Crow
Tuesday, January 2nd, 2007, 09:16 PM
From Serbian point of view…


Before civil war in former Yugoslavia, great majority of Serbs was for Yugoslavian/Serbian membership in European Union. Serbs were ready to forget on old antagonism between Germans and Slavs. We were full of hope and turn to future where European nations can work together.

Today, after EU supported (bloody!) destruction of Yugoslavia (possible embrion of Slavic Union) and creation of new Islamic states on ancient Serbian ground in Bosnia-Herzegovina and in Kosovo-Metohija; then, when we have in mind that `Western` states supported assimilation (transformation) of Catholic Serbs into Croats and encouraged alliance between Croatian ustashe and mujaheedines, when we know that more then 800.000 Orthodox Serbs was erased in brutal massacres and genocide (in 1941-1945; 1991-1995), when we have in mind that those who committed crimes on innocent Serbian civilians never get punishment, when we remember that Ottoman presence in Europe (on Balkan) was prolonged because some `Western` states profit and desired `status quo`- Serbs are aware that all was allowed what could harm Serbian biological potential- in very important strategic region.


It was/is needed that Serbian nation suffer. Nation which resisting on Semitic culture and on racial mixing with Semitics because- we have our way (physically and psychologically). Nation, which propose natural mechanisms for racial salvation (people tend to intermarried/have children with its own kind; in modern sense that mean- people don’t mix with Semitics-blacks if public media/governments don’t propose/encourage that- what is usual on `West`). Nation, which is against false/vulgar racism (proposed by Nazism) which lead to isolation and what is in fact Semitic tool when they deal with Whites. Nation, which is deeply loyal to Slavic heritage, to our SAMORODNA Slavic kind. Nation, which suggest true, not false European multiculturalism based on ancient lows of Slavic/European hospitality.

Croatians (people of kajkavian speaking regions of former Yugoslavia- Zagreb, Krizevci and Varazdin- ruled by Jewish magnates and in constant alliance with mujahedines of the region- Bosnia, Albania) accepted collaboration with Semitics and they were rewarded.


Every average Serb is aware that EU and NATO collaborate with Al Qaeda. We see global mega trends of future Turkish and Israeli membership in NATO and in EU. We see how many blacks, Semitics coming to mix with people of Western Europe and all that is disguising to Serbs.

For Serbs, European Union and NATO is great Semitic trap for assimilation of Whites- final chapter of great game which was started from time of Carthaginian elephants and Roman legions. From time of first Semitic intruders on European soil.


We look forward in future that there is hope that people of Western Europe (especially Germany and France!) arise and loudly say which kind of future wants for their children.

We also hope and pray to God that all Slavs recognize only way to salvation of Slavic kind. We look forward in future Democratic Slavic Union- ultimate defense of White Garden.


In the meanwhile, THEY (Western governments, Israeli and Arabic magnates) will maybe push Serbia into the EU and NATO.

Let all people who likes freedom know- `Before Serbs enter EU, NATO conquered Serbs!` But, even now Serbian resistance live and thru our scarification white race would be awaken.


Tatarts, Huns, Mongols, Ottoman Turks, Austro-Hungaria, British Empire (because of collaboration with Turks), Nazi-Germany (initiated biggest destruction of Whites ever), Soviet Union, United States of America, European Union, NATO, Arabic/mujahedine league, Israel- what does it matter. All of them on the same job. All of them in attack on fundaments of White Garden. All of them drained life of white race.

Serbs had problems with all of them. We were TARGET. We are scattered in great deal but, what does it matter.

What does it matter, we still stand. We stand because of glory of Slavdom and because White Garden must live!


If just our wings- our Poles and our Russians start to work together, I wouldn`t have fear for future of Garden. If just Germanics recognize brothers in Slavs.

Blutwölfin
Tuesday, January 2nd, 2007, 10:25 PM
An Israeli cabinet minister yesterday called for the Jewish State to turn its back on the Middle East region and work towards joining Nato and the European Union.

Avigdor Lieberman, a right-wing politician who serves as minister for strategic threats, claimed violence by Palestinian militants was no different from terrorist acts by jihadists against members of Nato and EU.

"Israel's diplomatic and security goal... must be clear: joining Nato and entering the European Union," he said.

"The war we are waging in the Middle East is not a war of the state of Israel alone, it is a war of the entire free world, and we are situated on the front lines.

"Today, Palestinian terrorism is part of the worldwide jihad.

"Palestinian terrorism is fuelled by al-Qa'eda, the Iranians and Hizbollah."

He rejected suggestions that membership of a group such as Nato would clip the wings of the notoriously free-thinking and often ruthless Israeli Defence Force.

"There is no doubt that membership in Nato would still afford us 100 percent freedom in military activity."

Israel has long argued its conflict with Palestinian militants is part of the wider global clash with militant jihadism.

Critics dismiss this argument saying the Palestinian question is a straightforward land dispute and they accuse Israel of dishonestly using jihadism to justify its continued illegal occupation of Palestinian land.

While Nato is not offering Israel full membership in the near future, links between it and the Jewish State have been strengthening in recent years, especially in the area of intelligence about militant Islam.

Three months ago Israel became the first non-European nation chosen by Nato to work within its Individual Cooperation Programme.

The programme specifies 27 areas of cooperation including response to terrorism, intelligence sharing, political dialogue, and a host of military and civilian issues including search and rescue operations.

Full membership would afford Israel the same guarantee of mutual defence offered to all members.

Historically, this meant that if one member of the alliance was attacked, the full might of Nato would come to its defence.

Israeli membership of Nato would mean America would be obliged to protect the Jewish State were it attacked by Iran, whose leadership repeatedly calls for Israel to be wiped off the map.

Any such guarantee through Nato, however, would simply duplicate the existing bilateral defence pact between Israel and America which provides the same threat of protection by America.

As a Middle East nation, Israel has ambitions nevertheless of being seen as a European country.

Its national soccer team plays in the European zone for World Cup qualification and Israel has long been a member of the European broadcasting union that earns it a place in the annual Eurovision Song Contest.



Source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/02/wisrael02.xml)

Gorm the Old
Wednesday, January 3rd, 2007, 04:00 AM
NATO ? ! What in HELL does Israel have to do with the North Atlantic ? :scratch: NATO was intended to be an alliance between the nations bordering the North Atlantic Ocean for their mutual defence. That Israeli minister would be well advised to study some basic geography. :doh

NatRev
Wednesday, January 3rd, 2007, 08:18 AM
Yes, but I've never understood why Israel is in the Eurovision Song Contest either. :O

I think I can see the logic behind it all. Israel's probabaly seen how much aid the new member states in eastern Europe get so it wants a piece of that.

Oh come on, if there's money to be given away, are you at all surprised that Israel wants some of it??? :eek

Maybe it's because so many Jews control the purse strings of America or that America views Israel as it's Airstrip One into the Middle East but there's been this bizarre symbiotic relationship between the two. Well I say symbiotic, if one can define a leech as symbiotic.

Oh well, more aid to foreigners, oh I guess who'll be paying for that?!

:doh