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Earendil
Friday, December 29th, 2006, 12:18 PM
The boerestaat party aims to be an official party,
to be able to participate in south african elections:

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/Politics/0,,2-7-12_2049013,00.html

Anyways, I prefer the Freedom Front + .

Liberator Germaniae
Friday, December 29th, 2006, 12:52 PM
Very tendentious report, probably from an anti-Afrikaans English journalist; my highlights in red:

White far-right wants its say
27/12/2006 13:11 - (SA)

Johannesburg - Right-wing extremists who have nursed their grievances on the sidelines since the end of the apartheid era are poised to throw themselves into the mix of South Africa's multiracial democracy.

Long convinced that Aids and abortion are all part of a plot against the white community, followers of the Boerestaat Party are hoping the electorate will start listening to their siren calls once it has delivered an application to the electoral commission to be registered as a party on January 2.

The commission can withhold registration from any party that it regards as discriminatory.

That is a charge rejected by party leader Coen Vermaak who says it is time whites opened their eyes and rejected completely the concept of the Rainbow Nation.

"We don't want to become the government of the day. We want to change the system," said Vermaak at a rally at Krugersdorp, near Johannesburg.

Ageing supporters

But, for all his talk of revolution, the vision of Vermaak and the party is rooted in nostalgia for the period up until 1994 when the white minority shut the black majority out of any say in the future of the country.

His address to a group of 50 ageing supporters was made against a backdrop of white, orange and blue - the colours of the Vierkleur national flag that was consigned to the dustbin of history when apartheid fell.

Vermaak said the intervening 12 years had shown the folly of believing that blacks and whites could rub along together.

"I don't believe for a moment there has been reconciliation from the government's side," he said.

"They are changing our town's names and taking our businesses away from us."

Commitments by the government to rename places such as Pretoria and increase the number of black company directors have fuelled widespread complaints by whites that they and their culture are being marginalised.

However, since it was founded in the 1980s, the Boerestaat Party has been unable to shake off its extremist image.

Despite website links to US-based anti-Semitic, white supremacist organisations, Vermaak said the party did not consider itself racist while conceding that it was possible their views might be perceived as such.

Party chairman Nicholas Lang said the party was "open to any race, if you agree with our views".

However, he later remarked that "if you kill the white man, everybody dies".

South Africa may have escaped much racial violence since 1994, but studies show few people want to reach out to other ethnic groups.

The annual reconciliation barometer said: "White respondents, with 19.9%, are the least likely to want to increase their levels of communication with other groups, followed by black Africans with 32.7%."

Whites account for about five million of the overall 47 million population.
But the Boerestaat Party believes an official campaign is being pursued to drive them towards extinction.

Vermaak argues that the widespread availability of contraceptives is preventing population growth among whites.

Claims Aids is a hoax

"I am convinced the abortion law is aimed at getting rid of white babies," he said.

Vermaak also claims Aids is a hoax designed to promote the use of condoms among whites.

"No Boer ever had Aids. It doesn't exist. It's the biggest scam that can take place," said Vermaak.

While the party does not actively call for voting rights to be restricted to whites only, it firmly rejects the post-apartheid doctrine of universal suffrage.
[END]

Earendil
Saturday, December 30th, 2006, 10:34 AM
Any chance for the boerestaat party to win seats (0,24 %) in south-african elections 2009 ?

@Euhesperides:

Are there any reasonable political parties in namibia that one can vote with good faith ?

What about:
- DTA
- The Republicans
- Monitor Action Group ?

Liberator Germaniae
Saturday, December 30th, 2006, 09:06 PM
Any chance for the boerestaat party to win seats (0,24 %) in south-african elections 2009 ?
@Euhesperides:
Are there any reasonable political parties in namibia that one can vote with good faith ?
What about:
- DTA
- The Republicans
- Monitor Action Group ?
I think that the problems of Whites experience in Southern Africa are quite similar to the problems facing Europeans in Western Europe and, believe it or not, almost all peoples in all other countries in the world. Even if the Boerestaat Party wins a seat in the next parliamentary elections in South Africa, this is not going to make any difference for Afrikaaners, Whites or even Non-Whites in South Africa. Nor will it make any difference to vote as a White for the DTA, the Republican Party of the Monitor Action Group or the only efficient opposition group in the Namibian parliament, the Congress of Democrats (CoD), because there are too few Whites in relation to the rest of the population. Many Whites in Namibia therefore do not even bother about going to the ballot box to cast a vote, and as long as most Whites in Namibia do not experience economic hardship as most Blacks and Coloureds do, there is nothing that is going to convince them to change their behaviour in giving a damn about the way things are.

For a previous post of mine on the Republican Party in the Aldietse Forum please click here: http://forums.skadi.net/white_farmers_don_t_oppose_land_reform_m udge_said-t79382.html

I think that all we can do is to wait and see. Things will not change next year or the year after, but I believe that the world order as we know it will eventually collapse. There actually is a prophecy from Afrikaans clairvoyant `Siener van Rensburg´ (1864-1926), according to which one day three German aircraft-carriers will appear at the coast of Lüderitzbuch and repossess the country from the present Black government. This would happen at a time when all white farming land will have been expropriated, it can be inferred from the prophecy.

For other relevant information on `Siener van Rensburg´ please click here: http://forums.skadi.net/one_immigrant_minute_enters_uk-p727134.html#post727134

Earendil
Saturday, December 30th, 2006, 10:06 PM
As far as I remember I once read a political documentary book:
This was still in DDR times in 1990.
A member of the eastern german Republicans said in an interwiev,
that germany should reclaim Namibia as a federal state.

Liberator Germaniae
Sunday, December 31st, 2006, 01:59 PM
...that germany should reclaim Namibia as a federal state.
I really doubt if it is desirable for the Federal Republic of Germany to reclaim the independent sovereign Republic of Namibia as a federal state. The present German state as such is illegal and does not represent the interests of the German people as such. As has been pointed out in a German thread elsewhere on Skadi-Net it is futile to dream the colonial dream as long as the legal borders of the German Reich are not restored in Europe.

At the end of the day there would perhaps only be a sentimental motivation to re-incorporate South West Africa into a restored German Reich in future, but such a step would only make sense if the population numbers of non-white ethnicities would be significantly reduced to at least the pre-1920´s level. How other white ethnicities would come to terms with German sovereignty is another question, as Afrikaaners in Namibia have traditionally been anti-German and Namibian Germans themselves admit that they respect the Blacks more than the Afrikaaners. A gay couple (Irish-Dutch) living in my hometown Swakopmund however once told me that they would welcome German sovereignty for South West Africa. It is also interesting that many coloured women sympathize with the National-Socialist movement ("Hitler is net dié man – Hitler is just the man we need").:)

Earendil
Monday, January 1st, 2007, 12:26 PM
If ethnic germans and afrikaners are really working against each other,
I would give up hope for the white community in south-west.
I guess out of my own experience that the relations between both groups are much better in the RSA.

However, a colonial empire ist out of time.
Why should we reclaim Tansania or Papua-Neuguinea ?
There are´nt any genuine links anymore.
Namibia ist the only former colony that is still somewhat influenced by german culture.
In fact, the germans there are the last really germans.

So I would have no problem with a german state Namibia, like Saxony or Bavaria,
even with a black prime-minister .

Liberator Germaniae
Monday, January 1st, 2007, 04:21 PM
Namibia ist the only former colony that is still somewhat influenced by german culture.
In fact, the germans there are the last really germans.
So I would have no problem with a german state Namibia, like Saxony or Bavaria,

The Afrikaaners who settled and were settled in South West Africa under the former mandatory regime were usually former South African war veterans that naturally could never have any common vision with Germans. I am relieved that Afrikaans-inspired German-bashing has been reduced in Namibia since independence as a Black majority state.

I also once thought that we Whites should stick together, bla bla bla... The Afrikaaners fraternised so much, that they held us Germans in similar disregard and disrespect like the Blacks. Although I have always been pro-Afrikaans rather than pro-English, and although I had always been opposed to political change in White Southern Africa, and although I always voted for Andries Treurnichts´ Conservative Party, and later for the "Vryheidsfront" (Freedom Front), I am glad that the pro-Jewish, pro-Israeli and Zionist `Boer Era´ is over.

Germans in Germany should concentrate on legitimate claims to German territory under foreign military rule, such as the German eastern provinces under Polish, Russian and Czech military occupation. It does also not make sense to waste energies on a couple of thousands of Germans who live somewhere on the margins of Africa, surrounded by arid surroundings, as long as the FR-Germany is not abolished and replaced with a legitimate German Reich. Besides, many Germans in Namibia aren’t that German anymore as one would hope they would be.

Germans in Germany should also give more thought to territories outside the former borders of German empires, such as Siebenbürgen-Transylvania (Rumania), Eastern Slavonia-Krajina (Croatia) etc. before they start to dream the colonial dream again, and pressure the government to force the host countries to return property (financial compensation will certainly not do!). The colonies only cost huge sums of money.

Earendil
Monday, January 1st, 2007, 06:19 PM
No chance, the germans are already pissed of by the high coast and changes out of the unification of germany in 1990.
In fact eastern and western germans have a different way of life and mostly don´t trust an like each other.

They would also never allow to reclaim former german terrirories because they are not willing to pay one cent for the reconstruction of this areas and dislike the german minorities here.

And because germans hat changes they would prevent any attempts to abolish the BRD in favor of a german reich.

That are truths that a german patriot has to accept and to work within this limits to rebuild a healthy german.

Other peoples like the flemish,dutch or danes are perhaps open for significant changes, but in germany there is little chance for this.

Liberator Germaniae
Monday, January 1st, 2007, 07:49 PM
No chance, the germans are already pissed of by the high coast and changes out of the unification of germany in 1990.
In fact eastern and western germans have a different way of life and mostly don´t trust an like each other.

Western Germany would presently have been much worse off economically if the Federal Republic had not united with `East Germany´. Reunification has merely postponed the obvious economic decline by ten years. This, coupled with the so-called New Economy Boom (or should I rather say `Bubble´?), has helped to defer the decline, but ultimately the FRG-regime will collapse due to economic reasons just like the former German Democratic Republic did. Germans all over the world are looking forward to the day when this will happen, as this will be the Day of Revenge.

Earendil
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 01:13 PM
So what´s up ?
Did the negroes agree to register the Boerestaat Party ?

I´m not quite up to date.

Liberator Germaniae
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 02:33 PM
So what´s up ?
Did the negroes agree to register the Boerestaat Party ?


No idea, but view this thread (http://forums.skadi.net/afrikaner_parties_merge-t89810.html) about the merger of the Freedom Front Plus (FF+) and the Federal Alliance (FA).

Carl
Friday, February 9th, 2007, 04:12 PM
What IS the hope for White radicals in South Africa. Could they ever hope to have their own State now.... and if not , won't they always be the victim of majority blacks? I can see that maintaining a core solidarity might be useful to their further wellbeing - but I can't quite see what they might be able to do politically.

Earendil
Saturday, March 24th, 2007, 02:02 PM
Are there any reliable opinion polls for the political parties in South Africa of Namibia ?
I´m specially interested how the DA or the Freedom Front Plus would poll if there were elections today.

Horagalles
Saturday, March 24th, 2007, 04:46 PM
What IS the hope for White radicals in South Africa. Could they ever hope to have their own State now.... and if not , won't they always be the victim of majority blacks? I can see that maintaining a core solidarity might be useful to their further wellbeing - but I can't quite see what they might be able to do politically..... The Blacks are doing their best to end ANC rule. Perhabs without intention, but they are doing it...:D




http://www.sloganizer.net/en/style2,Apartheid.png


The Whites however have to get organized. But a shift in mindset is already happening:
http://www.praag.org/mambo
http://www.boerevryheid.co.za/:thumbup

As for political parties and election, they are a pretty useless exercise in a country where the ruling party (or its front organizations) can intimidate the electorate and manipulate elections at will.