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Kshatriya
Wednesday, December 6th, 2006, 03:59 AM
Does anyone know?

some_one_number_one
Wednesday, December 6th, 2006, 06:35 AM
Does anyone know?
yes, many of them have "platinum blond" hair
but i dont know

Irmin
Wednesday, December 6th, 2006, 10:18 PM
It's a stereotype about Nordic rase - the blondness. But indeed the whity flaxen hair is more typical for East-Baltics, while Nordic blond is more golden or trends towards rufosity (strawberry blond, etc), fuller coloured I would say. Or maybe I don't understand which shade of blond the "platinum" exactly is. Hmmm...

Dr. Solar Wolff
Thursday, December 7th, 2006, 07:05 AM
Red hair and blue eyes are centered in far Western Europe, somewhere in the modern British Isles. Ashe blondism and grey eyes are centered in the East Baltic region. Where they overlap, in Sweden, Northern Germany, people can be golden blond with blue or blueish grey eyes. There are two seperate mutations for depigmentation, each linked to eye color.

Kshatriya
Friday, December 8th, 2006, 08:48 AM
Red hair and blue eyes are centered in far Western Europe, somewhere in the modern British Isles. Ashe blondism and grey eyes are centered in the East Baltic region. Where they overlap, in Sweden, Northern Germany, people can be golden blond with blue or blueish grey eyes. There are two seperate mutations for depigmentation, each linked to eye color.


ok

what is the actual origin of baltic people
are they indo-european?

Oski
Friday, December 8th, 2006, 10:38 AM
The latvian and lithuanian languages are indo-european, the estonians and finns do not speak IE. IE doesnt have allot to do with subracial types.

Now if your wondering if baltids are white europeans or asians; they are white europeans without a doubt.

Vingolf
Friday, December 8th, 2006, 10:50 AM
The latvian and lithuanian languages are indo-european, the estonians and finns do not speak IE. IE doesnt have allot to do with subracial types. Now if your wondering if baltids are white europeans or asians; they are white europeans without a doubt.

Research has shown that Estonians are genetically close to Saami and Finns, while Latvians and Lithuanians are close to contemporary Russians living in Western Russia. Western Russians do differ genetically from Western, Germanic Europeans.

Oski
Friday, December 8th, 2006, 11:00 AM
They are white, finns and balts. They may not be germanic culturally or genetically but they are white europeans and should be our friends.

Vingolf
Friday, December 8th, 2006, 11:57 AM
They are white, finns and balts. They may not be germanic culturally or genetically but they are white europeans and should be our friends.

As far as I am concerned, the term 'Europe' is above all cultural-civilizational, not racial. I think there is good reason to believe that race or at least evolution/biology has had significant impact on cultural traits. Nothing so far in European history suggests that they are "our friends" just because they are predominantly Caucasoids.

Agrippa
Friday, December 8th, 2006, 01:27 PM
North Eastern Europeans have different sources.

Compare:
http://forums.skadi.net/racial_types_finno_ugrians_baltisation_a nd_eastbaltids-t55890.html
http://forums.skadi.net/fenno_ugrics_racial_overview_and_ethnic_ comparison-t83778.html

Vingolf
Friday, December 8th, 2006, 05:19 PM
Here's an interesting article (http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/98/1/22). Take a look at the maps, fig. 2, for instance.

Väring
Saturday, December 9th, 2006, 05:04 PM
Scandinavia is a lot more warmer than countries in other parts of the world of the same latitude such as Russia or Canada. So probably, East-Baltids and East-Nordids experienced a stronger depigmentation than Scando-Nordids because of the harscher, colder climate of that part of the world.


Similar effects can happen with the Gulf Stream, which carries tropical waters from the southeastern United States to Scandinavia--and thereby provides western Europe with a more temperate climate than its latitude would justify.

http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2006/1129/2

Agrippa
Saturday, December 9th, 2006, 05:18 PM
Temperature has little to do with pigmentation though, its about the combination of UV-exposure, protection, nutrition and time which makes the difference beside some other factors, temperature being not important.

fareast
Sunday, March 18th, 2007, 03:36 AM
Research has shown that Estonians are genetically close to Saami and Finns, while Latvians and Lithuanians are close to contemporary Russians living in Western Russia. Western Russians do differ genetically from Western, Germanic Europeans.
Finns and Estonians looks quite different to Saami who seems like Mongolian.