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Ederico
Monday, December 8th, 2003, 03:08 PM
This is part of an article by Norman Lowell found at nationalvanguard.org. Since it is quite lengthy I selected part of it and I am providing the link in case anyone is interested to read the whole article. The link is the following:

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1073


Dominium and Imperium

The EU nation-states are a progression of the city-states of Athens, Sparta and Corinth. And yet, The Roman Empire superseded these and conquered them with ease since they were divided and politically fossilized. Such states perforce have to become satellites of continental states or Empire. The EU today is a classic example of nation-states that in effect, are vassals under the imperial ambitions of the USA.

In my view, there is no other way except for Western Man to unite within a new Empire - on a planetary basis. Such an Empire will be divided broadly into two main parts: Dominium and Imperium.

Dominium is the female side of politics, and refers to all that pertains to the Individual: his freedom of choice, religion, language. His preferences pertaining to an ethnic group, with common imagery, common memories, frustrations, fears, modes of recreation. In short, all that which is anarchist, all that falls within the framework of private life: be it addiction to drugs, alcohol, preference to music, literature etc: ? the Individual is free! The Dominium is Diogenes.

In our Imperium everything, but everything will be allowed: polygamy, drugs (not dealers since all drugs will be freely available, as are cigarettes and alcohol), freedom of religion, free debate, art, the sciences taken to their logical conclusion in genetic engineering, cloning, whatever ? all will be allowed, so long as the freedom of the individual does not impinge on others, or on society.

In our world, we will transfer the responsibility of one?s actions onto the person ? not on society. The Individual will bear the full consequences of his actions. This means that there will be no welfarism, no free hospitals, no free drug-rehabilitation centers, no free syringes, no free schools, no free meals, no-nothing within our Imperium. Whatever one does: one pays for it!

Nothing, but nothing within the Imperium will be free ? except the minds of men!

Indeed, the Individual within the Dominium will be allowed unlimited freedom of choice, inside the confines of the Imperium borders - unfettered freedom both in the economic and social fields. However, nothing will be tolerated which impinges or harms the Imperium.

IMPERIUM: this is male, dominant, powerful, dynamic, merciless. It sets itself no limits. It grasps every opportunity for expansion, penetration and domination. Its prerogatives are mainly Race, Territory and High Politics.

- Race will be protected from miscegenation
- Territory will never be ceded
- High Politics will be the realm of The Elite.


Race

Every single non-Europid will be expelled from within the Imperium. With them will have to go their Europid spouses and mixed offspring, the innocent victims of racial treason. Couples who have adopted non-Europid children will also have to leave ? they will be classed as outcastes. We will return to the old laws of Manu - and we will be inflexible in their draconian application.

Territory

The Amur and Ussuri will forever be the demarcation line between Europids and Mongolids. Opportunities, like the financial collapse of Argentina, will be grasped, in order to wrench more and more territory from the yoke of the financial imperialism of the USA, thus bringing the White parts of Latin America within the fold of the Imperium. In Africa, a 4,000-mile cut-line from Bangui to Djibouti, fifty miles wide, will forever separate the Negrids, swept to the North through our coercive weapon of food, away from the all-White South.

High Politics

Both Race and Territory are safeguarded by High Politics. This is the realm of High Culture Bearers: The Elite - not millions of minions casting their useless votes every five years. The masses, those masticating bisons, can carry on living their lives of miserable ease! They can carry on enjoying their ?freedom.? Their only scope for existence, will be as a source pool for the Elite of the future.

For Freedom is inextricably woven with Power! The source of Freedom is Power! That which wants to be free, must also be powerful. One can not have Freedom without Power: economic, political, cultural, Spiritual power! The power to preserve what one has ? as well as the power to prevent encroachment by others - if need be, the political and military power to seize every opportunity to grasp from weak neighbors.

An Elite beyond parliaments, parties, politicians, prostitutes and pernicious political priests. A new Aristocracy of the Spirit ? an Aristocracy based on meritocracy. An Elite of a quarter of a million, spread over the Imperium, High Culture Bearers: An Order of Men as were the Templars and Teutonic Knights. They would be the guardians of the Imperium. Their sole concern would be Spirituality, Race and High Politics. This Elite will forge a new Science of the Spirit.

And where is the Individual in such an Elite body, one might well ask? Well, any group of persons, whatever their number and reciprocal similarity, whichever the degree of their firmness in assessing their opinion and their convergence of ideas ? that group ends with breaking into smaller groups, adhering to different variants of the same opinion. Within these subgroups in turn, there emerge other, smaller under-subgroups, and further on, down to the last limit of such division ? that of the single Individual!

And who elects the Elite? They elect themselves! For history is nothing but the eternal struggle amongst competing Elite, with their concern with the secrets of nature, as they seek to positively impact and alter the entire culture, structure and direction of society. The Imperium is the exclusive domain of the Elite.

Moody
Monday, December 8th, 2003, 04:57 PM
Thank you for that Edric.
This piece makes things very clear;

"Such an Empire will be divided broadly into two main parts:
'Dominium' and 'Imperium'.
Dominium is the female side of politics, and refers to all that pertains to the Individual: In short, all that which is anarchist, all that falls within the framework of private life: be it addiction to drugs, alcohol, preference to music, literature etc: ? the Individual is free! The Dominium is Diogenes".
[N. Lowell]

Diogenes was the Cynic philosopher of ancient Greece; he lived in a tub [like a dog, hence 'cynic'], and famously - when approached by Alexander the Great who wished to ask him a question of philosophy, told the World Conqueror to 'get out of the way of the sun, you are blocking my light'.

This then is the sphere of such libertarians as Aloysha etc.,

We authoritarians in habit the following;

"IMPERIUM: this is male, dominant, powerful, dynamic, merciless. It sets itself no limits. It grasps every opportunity for expansion, penetration and domination. Its prerogatives are mainly Race, Territory and High Politics.
- Race will be protected from miscegenation
- Territory will never be ceded
- High Politics will be the realm of The Elite".
[N.Lowell]

There is then, a possibility of reconciling the two trends of Dominion and Imperium if Lowell is right.
I feel that a study of Lowell [along with that of Myatt which we are conducting in the Philosophy forum] could be very useful.

Ederico
Monday, December 8th, 2003, 05:32 PM
Mr.Lowell will be a candidate for the European Parliament as soon as Malta joins the European Union. He'll surely get my vote even though I might disagree on certain ideas. I don't know what are his chances of electoral success, but certain Maltese people alienated by the hegemony of the two main political parties (Partit Nazzjonalista - Nationalist Party, not really a Nationalist Party though nowadays unfortunately, and Partit Laburista - Malta Labour Party), parties that Mr.Lowell calls prostitutes or something like that, could eventually vote for Mr.Lowell out of alienation or as a protest vote.

Eventually there are those that support Mr.Lowell because they themselves hold Radical views. Mr.Lowell claimed that he is after 20% of votes from the electorate in the coming European elections. If only Mr.Lowell had some good Public Relations he would get them especially due to his anti-Immigration position.

Mr.Lowell has a book out called Credo which is mostly a collection of articles which have been published in Maltese newspapers in English. In it it transpires his Racialist, Individualist, and Capitalist stance, which might be appealing to some here. He is not a Nationalist, he despises petty-Nationalisms. He envisions a United Europe, what he terms Imperium Europa, he is a Pan-European Racialist. Some of his ideas are perhaps too visionary, such as his idea of all Europeans speaking Latin and communicating in Latin as a a common tongue. Mr.Lowell is not Christian and probably takes a Nietzschean perspective to Christianity (Mr.Lowell seems profoundly influenced by Nietzsche, his book Credo is dedicated to him, whom he calls the Dynamite Philosopher). Mr.Lowell's conception of any State is perhaps limited in fact he doesn't mention the State nearly enough as to make it clear what are his ideas regarding it, come to think of it I'll send him an email regarding this.

Unfortunately Mr.Lowell's website found at http://www.imperium-europa.org does not contain much details on his ideas, plus it seems like there is some problem with the particular page which contains excerpts from his book, I get an HTTP Error 404 unfortunately.

I might inform Mr.Lowell of Skadi.net/forum if I find it appropriate though Mr.Lowell is not the type of person to spend time on the internet I think.

Mr.Lowell is a highly eccentric person which causes problems in the Public Relations area, which worries me a bit, he is nevertheless an intelligent personality much more than these run-of-the-mill politicians which pollute politics, whom have no higher ideals or at least it seems like they don't.

If you go to Mr.Lowell's website you'll find his email in case you want to get in contact with him, I have had some exchanges through email with him and hopefully I'll meet him together with one of my flatmates (registered here as Arkouda) when I can and he is available.

Moody
Monday, December 8th, 2003, 06:05 PM
Thanks - we really need to get his book out into the public domain.
I would particularly like to compare it to Yockey's Imperium.

Siegfried
Monday, December 8th, 2003, 06:10 PM
Interesting read, but I'm not yet convinced that a complete unification of all White nations across the globe is a good thing. A sort of alliance (to help each other out in times of war, etc) seems good enough to me. I don't really feel the need to have Europe united with White South-Africa, the USA, White areas in South-America or Australia. I'm also having second thoughts about a union with Russia. Nonetheless, if Lowell can become a racist voice in the EU, more power to him!

edit: I'd like to add that under the current EU system, every member-state has at least one representative in the European Parliament. If the proposed Constitution is accepted, this will no longer be the case. Several small countries - which would surely include Malta - could lose all representatives. That would surely make things more difficult for mr Lowell.

Ederico
Monday, December 8th, 2003, 06:13 PM
You won't find his book easily not even in Malta, plus I doubt that you could compare it to Yockey's Imperium (and I believe that he took Yockey's idea of Imperium), as I said Norman Lowell's book is basically a collection of articles.

Ederico
Monday, December 8th, 2003, 06:37 PM
edit: I'd like to add that under the current EU system, every member-state has at least one representative in the European Parliament. If the proposed Constitution is accepted, this will no longer be the case. Several small countries - which would surely include Malta - could lose all representatives. That would surely make things more difficult for mr Lowell.

What????????? Are you serious this is the first time I hear of this!!! Another reason to stay out of that trap that is the European Union, so much for their supposed Democracy then, Member States without representation in Parliament, that would be enough reason to quit.

Siegfried
Monday, December 8th, 2003, 07:47 PM
What????????? Are you serious this is the first time I hear of this!!! Another reason to stay out of that trap that is the European Union, so much for their supposed Democracy then, Member States without representation in Parliament, that would be enough reason to quit.

I'm sorry for creating a fuss; I checked the constitution and it seems the information I based my post on was seriously flawed. Every member state will have a minimum of four representatives, according to the draft I have. The amount of representatives is linked to the size of the member state and it is this link that will be modified in such a way that the smaller nations (Belgium, Malta, etc) will lose influence when compared to the current situation, while larger nations like Germany and France will gain more power.

Ederico
Monday, December 8th, 2003, 08:25 PM
That is in fact how I knew it, thanks for clearing that up.

Ederico
Wednesday, December 10th, 2003, 02:36 PM
Another extract from an article by Norman Lowell, in particular that extract which I liked the most, although I personally do not agree with all that is said. The full article can be found at:

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1382


A Planetary Imperium

Thus the White Man, the Europid, the envy of the rest of humanity, could live in peace with himself within the vast borders of a planetary Imperium.

Two White rings will encircle the globe, North and South of the Equator. To the North, the Imperium will stretch from Ireland to Vladivostok. Across the Bering Strait it will join a Nova America, comprising Alaska, Canada and a re-dimensioned White USA or Vinland, as White Americans will probably choose to call their regained territories.

In the South, we will have an all-White South Africa, as well as Australia and an all-White South America. Of paramount importance, the Europid will control the food growing areas of the planet. This is our ultimate weapon: the White Man’s ability to grow a food surplus. No other race is capable of this. The Imperium will trade food for all it needs from the rest of humanity. We will barter enough food to keep them from starving – nothing else!

Economy & Finance

We will again adopt the Gold Standard - this time on a planetary basis. All Euro issuance will have to be backed by Gold - mined from within the confines of the Imperium - or bartered for food from without. All-White South Africa mines and the Urals are more than enough to keep pace with the volume of currency in circulation.

The price of gold will be directly related to the currency and velocity of circulation - inflation would finally cease to plague the European Man.

The Euro will be the standard currency throughout the Imperium. All the Regions would choose their respective, optimum economic niche. No regional protective barriers would be allowed. Total, free, complete competition would be straight and fair – amongst Europids. The vast, free-market will itself regulate production, price and profit. Unions will evaporate on their own: dodos.

Yes! Capitalism in a racial context within an IMPERIUM EUROPA.

Aristocratic View

The Elite will inculcate an Aristocratic view of life throughout the Imperium. They will promote a culture of an Aristocracy of the Spirit, of Character. An Aristocracy that will combine the best of both Race and the Individual - and that vital link between the two.

Within the Imperium the military will enjoy a superior status to the bourgeois. A professional all-Europid army, composed of the best from the four Europid cousins, will guard the vast borders and stamp out mercilessly any attempt at infiltration. Non-Europids caught within our borders, after a stipulated deadline, would be shot on sight.

Democracy, a female concept of politics, has rendered the warrior, in the traditional, (Spiritual rather than historical) sense of the word, into a soldier. Now, etymologically the word soldier is derived from soldare, soldi, meaning money. This in effect means that the modern soldier is nothing more than a mercenary employed by the bourgeois, whose values prevail over those traditional, Spiritual ones formerly held by the warrior caste.

The bourgeois himself does not have to fight, but engages the "soldier," the mercenary, more often than not in squalid wars of mercantilism, in the interests of plutocratic capitalism.

Behind the high-sounding words like "peace keeping force" or "defending freedom" or “liberating the Iraqi people” or "a war to end all wars," there is usually nothing more than the interests of the multinationals.

Lacking a Spiritual ideal, today's soldier, the conscript, weaned throughout his civilian life on a diet of anti-militarism, is then expected to fight and lay down his life so that others like him can carry on living their life of miserable ease!

No wonder the debacle of Vietnam, where the most modern, best-equipped army lost a war to a tin-pot nation with soldiers in sandals, beads of rice as rations, and bicycles for transport. The difference was that those Orientals had a belief, a vision: albeit one of a Communist paradise.

In the final analysis however, whenever threatened, the bourgeoisie depend on the military for their survival; physical or economic. Now this is a paradoxical state of affairs since the dependent class, is master over the guarantor! Hence, the military caste should not only be distinct, separate, and elitist -- but also above civilians in status.

The ingrained, anti-militarism of democracy is the natural antithesis of that Union of Men of which the military caste is the highest expression. For the warrior, in the true sense of the word, is not a brute, as defined and depicted by the bourgeois, but the embodiment of an interior calm, a Spiritual plane.

The warrior, unlike the soldier, is not animated by hatred towards the enemy. Since he is fighting for a belief and an IDEA, the warrior respects the enemy warrior holding a different aim. On the other hand, the soldier fighting for an economic issue, a mercantile war -- as in the case of the Allies during the two World Wars -- needs a strong dose of hate for him to fight.

Millions were inebriated by hateful propaganda against all that was German. The hate spewed over the radio and in the press -- controlled by the international-manipulators, the real schemers behind those two great, fratricidal conflagrations -- reached a nadir, a bottom, an evil, never surpassed since.

On the other hand, the Prussian military caste, ascetic warriors in a modern age, direct descendants of the Teutonic Knights, as well as the German army in general, never needed hate in order to fight -- and fight very well. For the Germans were not fighting a mercantile war, but a total war for an IDEA; an embryonic IMPERIUM EUROPA!

Even in today's enfeebled military, there sometimes emerges that noble, warrior spirit of old. Whenever the nation is in extreme danger, close to total collapse, there have been instances when, at the very last moment, the military took matters in their own hands and saved the situation.

Heroes all of them, including the ones that failed, not through not having tried, but betrayed by a decadent Monarchy, as happened in Spain with Tehero.

Heroes: Pinochet in Chile, Videla in Argentina, Papadopoulos in Greece, the junta in Turkey, principe Borghese in Italy - all moved by the same warrior spirit; values of loyalty, hierarchy, command, obedience, frankness in the rapport between Men -- honesty, courage and a Spartan spirit of sacrifice.

War is Life!

War as a constant metaphysical battle, both internal within each individual, as well as external, in the case of Nation, Organic State, Race. For war is for warriors not for soldiers, for castes not conscripts. Not for mercantilism but for a great IDEA; that of Imperium!

Wars, giant struggles, great conflicts, have been mostly between Whites. They have been fratricidal and always the object for economic gains and as generator of business. Battles of rich versus poor, petty nationalism always manipulated by the Judas goats.

No more! If anything, we should promote wars amongst wogs. We could induce and encourage non-Whites to kill their kind in ever more decent numbers. We should instigate famine and disease wherever the White Man has not set foot. War should be for the sole benefit and final planetary victory of the Europid.

War is life! War is a self-overcoming! A liberating wind. War, as innovator. War as a hygienic exercise for the White world, together with a eugenics program, eliminating the weak within the Race. War as a final clean-up of the planet from the superfluous billions, the pullulating, non-creative, inferior races.

Collectivism

Socialism as a frame of mind will be extirpated from our Imperium. Nothing will be free. The very word “equality” will be expunged from our dictionary. Young generations will be weaned on a High Culture promoting Aryan values.

The forty-hour week, that socialist-capitalist sacred cow, will be abolished. Mussolini established it in the 1920s, two years after New Zealand and since then, whilst everything has hanged, it has remained. Instead of constant wage increases, extracted by the massed battalions of organised labour, inducing inflation, there will be a progressive reduction of working hours, giving the Europid time to develop himself: to change from homo oeconomicus into the complete person.

We will reduce our income tax to a 10% flat rate for everybody -- without distinction as to his wealth, as in Roman times. No tax should be more than this.

Tax collection will be used to operate the Imperium: The army, the police, the Regional Authority. It is for these purposes and for very little else, that the Imperium will collect the 10% tax from all. We will reduce government to a minimum in the Dominium sphere.

All trade with those outside the Imperium will have to be approved by the Central Economic Policy Staff, under the authority of the Elite. Foreign trade will consist solely of barter: our food surpluses in exchange for their oil, gold and other rare metals we may need. Foreign aid will be a thing of the past.

We will again respect, revere our Gaia. The environment will always have precedence, priority, over economic matters. Any industrialist or industry that infringes this rule will be regarded as having committed a “crime against the Imperium.” The board members and management themselves, will be harshly punished with long prison terms and hard labour.

High Politics will determine all these matters -- not vice-versa.

The Elite

The highest authority within the Imperium will be the Elite. A body of Men, a quarter of a million: guardians of the Imperium. These leaders, veritable SuperMen, are all male, imbued with a Sacred High Dominance quite apart, distinct, distanced from the Nation. A perfect example of such an Elite was the Prussian State where, at the apex, the Teutonic Order stood as guardian of the Eternal Values.

Authority vested in the Elite must be absolute or it is no authority at all. It is unconditional, not subject to any other power or right. It is not subject to the law but above it - Princeps a legibus solutos.

The Elite is not and should never be a representation of society -- it is above it. For the political sphere is separate and above the social, purely economic and social aspect of the Nation. The Elite represent the State. The State: the Imperium is form - Nation is matter.

And it is a false notion of today's degenerate world that the family is portrayed as the basis of the nation. This is a Female concept in tune with Democracy.

Apart from the fact that families are now disintegrating, (divorce, single parent, etc) it is not through the family that the basis of High Politics and The Imperium must be found - but elsewhere; in the leadership of MEN.

This is the basis of the political sphere, i.e. the Imperium. In most societies, primitive or evolved, in every civilisation and culture, young men make a passing through at maturity. from their adolescent, maternally-dominated life, they pass to the masculine sphere, often enduring rites involving pain, anguish and trial -- and become truly Men!

It is within such a union that the Imperium must be based. A leadership above the Nation. The auctoritas: the IMPERIUM. The Apex, the Soul, the IDEA of Eternal Values is safeguarded by this Elite union of men. A divine mystery of High Dominance - a Divine Right of Kings.

Project Genesis:

A top priority for the Imperium will be space exploration. Not only material considerations impel us to colonise space. There is also the all-important factor of racial survival. For too long has our race kept all its eggs in one basket. Now that we have the means to do so, we must spread out. A meteorite could wipe out all life on earth. A nuclear catastrophe would do the same. Therefore we have to send our best sons and daughters out into space, safe to procreate and carry on the great mission of European civilisation. However, we must ensure that space remains a White Man’s preserve.

We will send orbiting spaceships, carrying incubators with our best genes: our best future sons and daughters. These embryonic containers would be automatically activated through a command from earth and hurled into outer space, towards pre-destined, distant planets. Thus the White Race would be able to re-generate itself, safe, millions of miles away from earth, in case of a planetary catastrophe.

Beyond even our immediate racial survival, space exploration is an imperative need for the White Race. Our Promethean spirit demands that we go out; that we seek the new – and master it. Without this spirit our civilisation would never have been - without it, it will die.

One of the pioneers of rocket technology, the Russian Konstantin Tsiolkovsky once said “Earth is the cradle of mankind, but one does not stay in a cradle forever.”

The White Race is a pioneering race. It must always have new frontiers, new challenges or else it will turn its abundant energies inwards in self-destruction. We must carry on the struggle, ever striving, out there in the infinity of time and space.

And if there is a God out there, somewhere in the outermost reaches or innermost recesses of the universe; we will find Him! We will turn the spotlight of our Aryan intellect upon Him and hold Him in its full glare. We will stand proud, naked, square in body and mind before Him – and we will hold his gaze.

Magna Europa est Patria Nostra!

Keep healthy

Norman Lowell
IMPERIUM EUROPA
December 2003

http://www.imperium-europa.org

Mr. Lowell lives on the island of Malta, and is a candidate for the European Parliament.

Moody
Wednesday, December 10th, 2003, 06:12 PM
Thanks for posting this Edric - truly interesting!

I respect the power of Lowell's vision - it is awe-inspiring and completely uncompromising. Like you, I may have a few quibbles.

He talks of " the vast borders of a planetary Imperium", for example.
This is obviously a very ambitious design; I would say that a necessary first step is the securing of an adequate continental-size Homeland to use as a spring-board for any grander projects.
Of course, he would not deny this either; but we need to know what those less ambitious steps would be.
As it is, Lowell's Imperium could be dismissed as an Utopia [although I would not say that myself, as I think it achievable, but in stages which have to be worked out in the interim].

Such interim problems raise themselves even here;
"In the South, we will have an all-White South Africa".
Could this be possible after all that has happened, and the obvious failure of White colonisation in Africa?

This passage will interest some here;
"We will again adopt the Gold Standard - this time on a planetary basis. All Euro issuance will have to be backed by Gold".
Of course this could only be done in an Imperium or Empire; it could not occur amongst Anarchist grouplets as some seem to think here.
This relates to;
"The Euro will be the standard currency throughout the Imperium...
No regional protective barriers would be allowed...
The vast, free-market will itself regulate production, price and profit ...
Yes! Capitalism in a racial context within an IMPERIUM EUROPA".

Again, this is only viable within an ENCLOSED NATIONALIST system such as an Imperium; the problem with the present Capitalist system is that it is Internationalist [and therefore BY DEFINITION Multiculturalist].

Some of the most beautiful sections;
"Within the Imperium the military will enjoy a superior status to the bourgeois. A professional all-Europid army ... will guard the vast borders and stamp out mercilessly any attempt at infiltration ...
The ingrained, anti-militarism of democracy is the natural antithesis of that Union of Men of which the military caste is the highest expression. For the warrior, in the true sense of the word, is not a brute, as defined and depicted by the bourgeois, but the embodiment of an interior calm, a Spiritual plane..."

A return to the Aryan caste system ideal, where the Warrior [and not the Capitalist] is on top of the hierarchy.

Thus war itself is rehabilitated;
"War as a constant metaphysical battle, both internal within each individual, as well as external, in the case of Nation, Organic State, Race. For war is for warriors not for soldiers, for castes not conscripts. Not for mercantilism but for a great IDEA; that of Imperium!"

This should not be confused with war in the 20th/21st centuries;
"Wars, giant struggles, great conflicts, have been mostly between Whites. They have been fratricidal and always the object for economic gains and as generator of business. Battles of rich versus poor, petty nationalism always manipulated by the Judas goats".

I see that I am in disagreement with Lowell in the following, as I have always seen the family/kin-group as the basis for the Nation;
"And it is a false notion of today's degenerate world that the family is portrayed as the basis of the nation. This is a Female concept in tune with Democracy".

However, I have derived my own notion of the relationship between the family and the Folk from a similar line of reasoning; 'Folk' is related to 'Flock' which in Old English also meant 'army'. Therefore the groupings of various kindreds made up ad hoc armies which give the early sense of a nation or a folc/floc.
This allows me to agree to an extent with Lowell's own position;

"The basis of High Politics and The Imperium must be found - but elsewhere; in the leadership of MEN ...
This is the basis of the political sphere, i.e. the Imperium ...
The Apex, the Soul, the IDEA of Eternal Values is safeguarded by this Elite union of men. A divine mystery of High Dominance - a Divine Right of Kings..."

Comparing this to Myatt, we will see that Myatt is more 'socialistic', and that Myatt places the family as the basis of the nation. But where Lowell and Myatt do agree is here;

"A top priority for the Imperium will be space exploration".

Myatt calls this project the Galactic Empire, of course.
Again, I think we could find much to enlighten us by comparing and contrasting the Lowell model with that of Myatt.

Ederico
Wednesday, December 10th, 2003, 06:50 PM
I think I agree with your analysis Moody. I have not posted the whole article but I only posted what I considered the more important aspects, or those which I thought of interest. The whole article involves a forecast of the future global scenario as Lowell envisions it, quite entertaining to read, but as we all know the future is uncertain.

I disagree as of yet with certain aspects of Lowell's vision, for example I have not as yet come to grasp with Lowell's Capitalism. I come from a further Socialistic approach as I understand that Folkish being requires Communitarianism and this requires some form of Socialistic System while maintaining the fundamental right to Private Property and the right to pursue Inequalities as defined by personal abilities within a Capitalist context. What I do not support and vehemently oppose is Economic Equality, the begotten child of Communism and certain off-shoots of Socialism. In other words the levelling of Society in Economic terms to some mediocre level, NO!

This is why Free Enterprise must exist and it must function in a Capitalistic setting, not only that I see the State as an extension of Capitalistic Practices! The State must operate at a Profit those Organisations that do not provide essential services to the people, this is the way the State should invest in the Economy. And a fundamental aspect of this is the fact that the State does not guarantee anyone that is inefficient a position in such Organisations. This is unfortunately seen in most Statal Organisations and is probably the main reason for inefficiency and lack of competitiveness (excluding State-Sanctioned Monopolies) when compared to Private Organisations. The State must fire those beyond improvement or simple leeches!

To put it bluntly, the State's role Economically must be minimised to essential services for the Folk operating at a breakeven or cost-minimising manner, and pro-actively towards Profit-Maximisation in other Organisations. In fact the State must categorise its Organisations as Service-Givers and Revenue-Producers. It is essentially important that the latter operate with Tyrannical Economic Efficiency and the former with the ideal of providing an essential service to the populace.

Another major role of the State should be the training and preparation of the Work-Force. In fact all those that want to be included in the Work-Force are to be trained in required skills for the Economy, this should be a major aim of the State, an aim that is not an end in itself, but a means towards the Employability of all. Possibly the State should employ such individuals on a contractual basis to give them appropriate work experience which they can then invest in the Private Sector. The State in my opinion should definitely offer Lower Wages to Employess especially those in the Service-Giver Organisations. No one should aim to work with the State!

More importantly no one that did not in the past participate in the Work-Force and was severed from it due to matters beyond his control should expect any Statal Benefits, and most importantly no one that does not will to participate in the Work-Force should receive any Statal Benefits. This should particularly apply to unskilled and uneducated individuals.

This was basically my vision regarding this particular matter. I resent the State's involvement in the Economy as currently displayed and I would like to see not its non-involvement but a pro-active and positive involvement. This requires a revolution of sorts.

Now back to Lowell. After some correspendence with Mr.Lowell I have come to grasp what he defines as a quasi-anarchic Dominium, and the inflexible quasi-Fascist Imperium. The Dominium is the realm of the masses, where Libertarianism exists and the people which make up the Dominium are relatively living in Freedom from Restrictions of any sorts. The Imperium on the other hand deals with High Politics and those activities which require the guidance of an Elite, the Elite that leads the Imperium. A Spiritual and Racial Elite. Mr.Lowell is an Elitist and he sees the masses only as the ground from which the Elite rises. Of paramount importance is the fact that the Elite is independent from the masses, above it, and superior to it. And so it should be!

I was informed that more articles/essays dealing with the nature of the State will be done by Mr.Lowell, and I am personally eager to read them right now.

Ederico
Wednesday, December 10th, 2003, 06:58 PM
Thanks for posting this Edric - truly interesting!

I respect the power of Lowell's vision - it is awe-inspiring and completely uncompromising. Like you, I may have a few quibbles.

Indeed my pleasure to post this, I await your analysis.


He talks of " the vast borders of a planetary Imperium", for example.
This is obviously a very ambitious design; I would say that a necessary first step is the securing of an adequate continental-size Homeland to use as a spring-board for any grander projects.
Of course, he would not deny this either; but we need to know what those less ambitious steps would be.
As it is, Lowell's Imperium could be dismissed as an Utopia [although I would not say that myself, as I think it achievable, but in stages which have to be worked out in the interim].

I concur, Mr.Lowell is a visionary, he looks beyond.


This passage will interest some here;
"We will again adopt the Gold Standard - this time on a planetary basis. All Euro issuance will have to be backed by Gold".
Of course this could only be done in an Imperium or Empire; it could not occur amongst Anarchist grouplets as some seem to think here.
This relates to;
"The Euro will be the standard currency throughout the Imperium...
No regional protective barriers would be allowed...
The vast, free-market will itself regulate production, price and profit ...
Yes! Capitalism in a racial context within an IMPERIUM EUROPA".

Again, this is only viable within an ENCLOSED NATIONALIST system such as an Imperium; the problem with the present Capitalist system is that it is Internationalist [and therefore BY DEFINITION Multiculturalist].

This is to my knowledge how Mr.Lowell sees it.



I see that I am in disagreement with Lowell in the following, as I have always seen the family/kin-group as the basis for the Nation;
"And it is a false notion of today's degenerate world that the family is portrayed as the basis of the nation. This is a Female concept in tune with Democracy".

I agree with you personally.


"The basis of High Politics and The Imperium must be found - but elsewhere; in the leadership of MEN ...
This is the basis of the political sphere, i.e. the Imperium ...
The Apex, the Soul, the IDEA of Eternal Values is safeguarded by this Elite union of men. A divine mystery of High Dominance - a Divine Right of Kings..."

Comparing this to Myatt, we will see that Myatt is more 'socialistic', and that Myatt places the family as the basis of the nation. But where Lowell and Myatt do agree is here;

Interesting, I have to read more on Myatt then, seems like I would like him.


Again, I think we could find much to enlighten us by comparing and contrasting the Lowell model with that of Myatt.

Please go ahead and compare.

Moody
Wednesday, December 10th, 2003, 07:09 PM
Edric; "I think I agree with your analysis Moody. I have not posted the whole article but I only posted what I considered the more important aspects, or those which I thought of interest. The whole article involves a forecast of the future global scenario as Lowell envisions it, quite entertaining to read, but as we all know the future is uncertain.

Moody; And the end is always near!

Edric; "I disagree as of yet with certain aspects of Lowell's vision, for example I have not as yet come to grasp with Lowell's Capitalism. I come from a further Socialistic approach as I understand that Folkish being requires Communitarianism and this requires some form of Socialistic System while maintaining the fundamental right to Private Property and the right to pursue Inequalities as defined by personal abilities within a Capitalist context".

Moody; I agree; in the opposite extreme, see Myatt's Constitution, Chapter IV; I have just posted some excerpts in the thread 'Get Yourself a Constitution', and add any thoughts there if you wish.
I certainly believe in a form of welfare provision, but given on a much narrower basis than at present, and certainly ONLY for true members of the Folk. I think that it is a moral duty to help the sick, elderly and genuinely unfortunate members of our own Folk by whatever means are the most effective.

Edric; "The Dominium is the realm of the masses, where Libertarianism exists and the people which make up the Dominium are relatively living in Freedom from Restrictions of any sorts.
The Imperium on the other hand deals with High Politics and those activities which require the guidance of an Elite, the Elite that leads the Imperium. A Spiritual and Racial Elite".

Moody; This is one of the most interesting proposals I have heard.
Because I have not looked at the details of it though, I worry that it may imply a schism within the Nation.
My concept of the Nation is probably based on a Hegelian, Schmittian notion of utter integrity. The State must be One.
I would like to know how this remarkable idea of Dominion and Imperium would work and what the power relations within them/between them would be.
Again, thanks.

Ederico
Wednesday, December 10th, 2003, 07:28 PM
To my knowledge Lowell is preparing other articles involving his Dominium/Imperium dualism and his conception of the State. I will try and get information on this directly from the source, any articles should be posted at nationalvanguard.org and I'll gladly post excerpts here (since most of them are too long to post all or makes it worse to read).

Please expand on the following my knowledge is limited:

"My concept of the Nation is probably based on a Hegelian, Schmittian notion of utter integrity."

I'll check Myatt's contributions as soon as I come from dinner, and hopefully I'll comment after I read the whole thread in question.

Moody
Wednesday, December 10th, 2003, 08:05 PM
To my knowledge Lowell is preparing other articles involving his Dominium/Imperium dualism and his conception of the State. I will try and get information on this directly from the source, any articles should be posted at nationalvanguard.org and I'll gladly post excerpts here (since most of them are too long to post all or makes it worse to read).

Please expand on the following my knowledge is limited:

"My concept of the Nation is probably based on a Hegelian, Schmittian notion of utter integrity."

I'll check Myatt's contributions as soon as I come from dinner, and hopefully I'll comment after I read the whole thread in question.

The reference to Hegel and Schmitt relates to their idea of the State as being definitively without any duality in order to be effective. I suppose some would see this as Totalitarian, but check out Hegel's 'Philosophy of Right', for example, which makes the case very fully.

As for Schmitt I mean to add some remarks on a thread done on Schmitt a while ago by friedrich braun, but which has lain dormant.
To qoute Schmitt;
"It is the total state which no longer knows anything absolutely non-political, the state which must do away with the depoliticisations of the 19th century and which in particular puts an end to the principle that the apolitical economy is independent of the state and that the state is apart from the economy".
[Schmitt, 'The Concept of the Political']

To reiterate, it is said by some who follow this way of thinking that any kind of pluralism within the State weakens the State, and makes it unstable.

Galahad
Tuesday, January 27th, 2004, 11:49 PM
Norman Lowell?

I just started checking his site out.

IMPERIVM EVROPA (http://www.imperium-europa.org/)

Ederico
Wednesday, January 28th, 2004, 05:51 PM
I am familiar with Mr.Lowell I have communicated with him through email and will soon have the opportunity to meet him in a dinner organised in his honour where he will launch his MEP campaign.

Norman Lowell is a highly eccentric radically extreme personality and a Pan-European Racialist.

You can check the forum I founded and conceived and read his articles posted on NationalVanguard.org there. The temporary URL is the following:

http://www.avemelita.com/forum

For the Norman Lowell articles go to:

http://www.avemelita.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=15

Norman Lowell posts at the forum (AveMelita.com) as IMPERIUM.

Galahad
Wednesday, January 28th, 2004, 06:27 PM
Thanks! I want to get a copy of Credo, but they only have a PDF download on his site.

Is the book still available in physical form?

Ederico
Wednesday, January 28th, 2004, 06:50 PM
I think it is still available yes, not long ago since I bought it.

Galahad
Wednesday, January 28th, 2004, 07:01 PM
I think it is still available yes, not long ago since I bought it.

Did you get it from the imperium-europa.org site or somewhere else? I could only find the PDF download from imperium-europa.org, and there was nothing available at national vanguard books.

Any suggestions where else I should look?

Ederico
Wednesday, January 28th, 2004, 07:05 PM
I bought it in person from a bookstore in Malta. I do not know where you can get it abroad. Email at info@imperium-europa.org.

Ederico
Wednesday, February 11th, 2004, 04:30 PM
The following piece by Norman Lowell can be found at NationalVanguard.org (http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2016)

Radical

We are not of the pusillanimous, moderate, centre parties, tip-toeing cautiously on the centre strip. They have their ears to the ground, always on the lookout to gauge what majority-mediocrity is bleating about, at any given time. These parties of both the Left and the so-called Right lead from behind.

We lead up-front. We are light-years ahead in the realm of IDEAS – and we proclaim what we believe in, openly, without fear. Indeed, we are Radical.

Racialist

And proud of it! We are not racists, in that we do not place a moral or value judgment on the races. We observe them all – and come to the natural conclusion that races are different.

As such, we intend to safeguard this difference, this biological aristocracy that is the White Race. That race that gave humanity and the world... everything. We intend to protect our genes, ourselves and our progeny, within the non-porous borders of our coming, inevitable, unstoppable: IMPERIUM EUROPA. Indeed, we are Racialists.

Right

We are not the collectivists, the socialist slaves of the Left. We believe in the supreme integrity of the Individual. We will place all responsibility, in all spheres of life, on the person and not on society. We will give maximum liberty and responsibility unto the Individual, in the Dominium sphere of politics.

In the Imperium sphere, we believe that government should be in the hands of qualified persons. In fact, the most qualified: The Elite. Bred to lead, trained to endure hardship and stress, above all mundane vicissitudes, this group of SuperMen will ideologically, disdainfully discard the socialist, equalitarian dogma of death. Indeed, we are of the Right.

Revolutionary

We are not the conservatives of the old school, fossilized in the past, timorous of the future. We are not monarchists, aristocrats of titles, of dukedoms, baronets, bishops and bishoprics! We are not knights of the Catholic Church, organizing pilgrimage to the polluted waters of Lourdes. We are not Liberals, advocating the dissolution of the last vestiges of the fabric that holds our struggling society together. If anything, we are Libertarians in the pure sense of the word: in the Dominium sphere.

We are always ahead of the rest, in whatever counts for the survival of our Race. Never contenting ourselves with the flat monotony of the plateau of IDEAS. We will never cease to Think, to Act, to BE! Indeed, we are Revolutionary.

Reactionaries

In the purest sense of the word. Yes, we are Reactionaries! Like an anti-biotic that attacks what is alien, noxious and deadly, so do we, Adherents of IMPERIUM EUROPA react to all attacks on our Spirit, Race, and People.

We will never tire. We will be ceaseless, incessant in our attacks, by all means at our disposal, on all our numerous enemies: those within and those without. The internal enemies, those international-rodents, are the most deadly. It is with them that our final battle has to be fought and won. It will be a pitiless war, with mercy neither given nor asked. We will go after them and attack them again and again till we vanquish them all.

Then we will square things up with their lackeys: obnoxious TV hosts, columnists and journalists, media bosses, traitor politicians and pernicious priests. Yes, indeed, we are Reactionaries!

We, of the Radical–Racialist–Right–Revolutionary-Reactionaries!

Keep healthy,

Norman Lowell
IMPERIUM EUROPA
February 2004

http://www.imperium-europa.org

Mr. Lowell lives on the island of Malta, and is a candidate for the European Parliament.

Moody
Friday, February 13th, 2004, 06:16 PM
Norman Lowell says in the above;

"Racialist ... and proud of it!
We are not racists, in that we do not place a moral or value judgment on the races.
We observe them all – and come to the natural conclusion that races are different.
As such, we intend to safeguard this difference, this biological aristocracy that is the White Race.
That race that gave humanity and the world... everything ...
We are not the collectivists, the socialist slaves of the Left.
We believe in the supreme integrity of the Individual ..."

There are some possible contradictions here which may need clarifying; surely to regard the White Race as a 'biological aristocracy' is to make a 'value judgement' about it?
This is a way of saying that the White Race is inherently superior, and is therefore 'racist' rather than 'racialist' [and nothing wrong with that!].

Likewise, to believe in a White Race is to maintain the existence of a 'collectivity'; again this is surely at odds with the puported 'individualism'.

These points need some clarification.

Siegfried
Friday, February 13th, 2004, 06:54 PM
Norman Lowell says in the above;

"Racialist ... and proud of it!
We are not racists, in that we do not place a moral or value judgment on the races.
We observe them all – and come to the natural conclusion that races are different.
As such, we intend to safeguard this difference, this biological aristocracy that is the White Race.
That race that gave humanity and the world... everything ...
We are not the collectivists, the socialist slaves of the Left.
We believe in the supreme integrity of the Individual ..."

There are some possible contradictions here which may need clarifying; surely to regard the White Race as a 'biological aristocracy' is to make a 'value judgement' about it?
This is a way of saying that the White Race is inherently superior, and is therefore 'racist' rather than 'racialist' [and nothing wrong with that!].

Likewise, to believe in a White Race is to maintain the existence of a 'collectivity'; again this is surely at odds with the puported 'individualism'.

These points need some clarification.

I noted the same points, Moody, and though I can't explain both of them fully, here's what Lowell writes somewhere else about the relation between the Individual and the Race:

We have to find that link between Individual and Race. That the former does not exist as an end in himself, but for something greater: a continuity, an eternity. On the other hand, Race can only flower through the perpetual self-overcoming and self-improvement of the Individual. Individual and Race – Race and Individual: a symbiotic relationship.
(from Lowell's essay 'Our Destiny', which can be found at www.nationalvanguard.com)

Moody
Saturday, February 14th, 2004, 07:03 AM
I noted the same points, Moody, and though I can't explain both of them fully, here's what Lowell writes somewhere else about the relation between the Individual and the Race:

We have to find that link between Individual and Race. That the former does not exist as an end in himself, but for something greater: a continuity, an eternity. On the other hand, Race can only flower through the perpetual self-overcoming and self-improvement of the Individual. Individual and Race – Race and Individual: a symbiotic relationship.
(from Lowell's essay 'Our Destiny', which can be found at www.nationalvanguard.com)

Thank you; I think we are once again in the realm of what I called "Contradiction's Quest" in my Philosophy thread of the same name.

It is typical of Aryan culture [particularly that of a neoromantic flavour] to be great and strong in seeming contradictions.

Perhaps Philosopy itself began when Aryan man began to try to explain his Politics!

Abby Normal
Saturday, February 14th, 2004, 07:37 AM
Right

We are not the collectivists, the socialist slaves of the Left. We believe in the supreme integrity of the Individual. We will place all responsibility, in all spheres of life, on the person and not on society. We will give maximum liberty and responsibility unto the Individual, in the Dominium sphere of politics.

In the Imperium sphere, we believe that government should be in the hands of qualified persons. In fact, the most qualified: The Elite. Bred to lead, trained to endure hardship and stress, above all mundane vicissitudes, this group of SuperMen will ideologically, disdainfully discard the socialist, equalitarian dogma of death. Indeed, we are of the Right.

I'm a bit skeptical of this notion. In my opinion, right = conservative; conservative = holding on to tradition; tradition = "collectivism" (aristocracy/ class order...) I really don't think individualists are of the "right." If you want to see a real conservative's view of individualism, read this:

"Of Individualism in Democratic Countries," from Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville (http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/DETOC/ch2_02.htm)


I'm also not sure about the "elite" he speaks of: Of course, those of the Nobility/ Royalty should be bred to lead, but they needent consist of "SuperMen."




We are not the conservatives of the old school, fossilized in the past, timorous of the future. We are not monarchists, aristocrats of titles, of dukedoms, baronets, bishops and bishoprics!

Nope, that's what I am! :P

Ederico
Saturday, February 14th, 2004, 06:01 PM
There are some possible contradictions here which may need clarifying; surely to regard the White Race as a 'biological aristocracy' is to make a 'value judgement' about it?
This is a way of saying that the White Race is inherently superior, and is therefore 'racist' rather than 'racialist' [and nothing wrong with that!].

Likewise, to believe in a White Race is to maintain the existence of a 'collectivity'; again this is surely at odds with the puported 'individualism'.

These points need some clarification.

I am in no official position to represent Norman Lowell and Imperivm Evropa, but I am the best for this question available here.

Norman Lowell treats these questions in various of his writings. Let me give my interpretation and subsequently I will contact Norman Lowell himself for his ideas.

Regarding the problem of value judgements:

I will have to check with Norman Lowell himself. Yet this is clear, it is not our value judgement of other Races that is important but rather our will to separate from them to mantain our Integrity under biologico-cultural aspects and to mantain our territory.

Regarding the question of Individualism:

I have heard an interview (in Maltese) with Norman Lowell where he has stated that the masses, the collective, are not the ones responsible for any High Culture and/or Progress. Ultimately Individuals are responsible for this.

Then Norman Lowell in other places asserts that ultimately Collectivism lies in us all, it is a part of our Societal being. We are Individuals, yet we are in most cases not Isolated Individuals, we are part of Collectives, and one of these Collectives is the Europid Race.

Norman Lowell does not deny Collective Spirit, Norman Lowell does not deny Individualism, they are both important for our Race. What Norman Lowell is opposed to definitely is majority-mediocrity, a majority currently devoid of any High-Cultural and Spiritual leanings.

Siegfried Augustus has provided quite a good excerpt from Norman Lowell's Our Destiny essay, which is quite appropriate regarding this question.

I will try and find material by Norman Lowell regarding these questions and I will contact him.


I'm a bit skeptical of this notion. In my opinion, right = conservative; conservative = holding on to tradition; tradition = "collectivism" (aristocracy/ class order...)

Norman Lowell is not a Conservative. The Right described here in the RRRRR piece is a support towards an Imperivm-based Capitalism, a Capitalism within the confines of an exclusively-Europid Imperivm. Not only Norman Lowell isn't a Conservative he is in his own words a Revolutionary Reactionary! Contradiction? I will repeat Norman's own words:



Revolutionary

We are not the conservatives of the old school, fossilized in the past, timorous of the future. We are not monarchists, aristocrats of titles, of dukedoms, baronets, bishops and bishoprics! We are not knights of the Catholic Church, organizing pilgrimage to the polluted waters of Lourdes. We are not Liberals, advocating the dissolution of the last vestiges of the fabric that holds our struggling society together. If anything, we are Libertarians in the pure sense of the word: in the Dominium sphere.

We are always ahead of the rest, in whatever counts for the survival of our Race. Never contenting ourselves with the flat monotony of the plateau of IDEAS. We will never cease to Think, to Act, to BE! Indeed, we are Revolutionary.

Reactionaries

In the purest sense of the word. Yes, we are Reactionaries! Like an anti-biotic that attacks what is alien, noxious and deadly, so do we, Adherents of IMPERIUM EUROPA react to all attacks on our Spirit, Race, and People.

We will never tire. We will be ceaseless, incessant in our attacks, by all means at our disposal, on all our numerous enemies: those within and those without. The internal enemies, those international-rodents, are the most deadly. It is with them that our final battle has to be fought and won. It will be a pitiless war, with mercy neither given nor asked. We will go after them and attack them again and again till we vanquish them all.

Then we will square things up with their lackeys: obnoxious TV hosts, columnists and journalists, media bosses, traitor politicians and pernicious priests. Yes, indeed, we are Reactionaries!

Agrippa
Tuesday, February 17th, 2004, 09:07 PM
Like the others I saw some contradictions in what you wrote.

Especially two things, the "Aristocracy of the white race" and "maximum freedom to individuals and against collectivistic ideologies" are something which I dont like and find already contradicting.

My personal view is that individualism is good and necessary to a certain degree but a generally collectivistic view should be hold up.
In fact he is saying that if he says that the "Elite should lead", because thats against the "maximum individualism" at all.

But interesting to hear about other people which made their mind up about ideological alternatives to the Liberal or Marxist ideology.

Ederico
Wednesday, February 18th, 2004, 12:39 PM
I got into contact with Norman Lowell himself and this is what he had to say:

Racialism versus Racism - Value Judgements

"Yes, there is a contradiction here, I admit. However it is only an apparent contradiction, a paradox. Permit me to explain:
We do not place a moral or value judgment on the races.However, we observe them all. And we notice differences. We notice that the White Race is the creative Race in that it gave humanity everything.So, if one had to accept these differences and also accept that the White Race gave humanity everything, then, ipso facto, it must be a Biological Aristocracy! For it is only an Aristocracy that has the Power to bestow. Power to bestow anything, from recognition to prestige, to money and most important: innovation! We rest our case there - we do not add that this means that the Race is inherently superior. It is simply a Biological Aristocracy. Fine tuning, I know, skating on thin ice - but this allows us to take any measures for the preservation of this Aristocracy. And ultimately that is what we are after: the moral authority to take whatever action is necessary."

Collectivism and Race

"You see, Race is not exactly collectivism. By collectivism one means a frame of mind whereby the "collectivist" hides himself within the herd especially in the moral field. This then translates into the economic sphere and produces Socialism. A Racialist can be supremely Individualistic in his "way of life" but still is willing to die for his Race."

Agrippa
Wednesday, February 18th, 2004, 04:08 PM
"You see, Race is not exactly collectivism. By collectivism one means a frame of mind whereby the "collectivist" hides himself within the herd especially in the moral field. This then translates into the economic sphere and produces Socialism. A Racialist can be supremely Individualistic in his "way of life" but still is willing to die for his Race."

The problem with this is that it is impossible for the most people.
It would be only possible if there would be a real biological and educational Aristocracy which do not exist in great numbers in any race at the moment.

So it may be a nice thought but unreastilic because its too high requirements for the individuals which would again, like it was the case in USrael fail if there is no structural collective power and strong normative moral above individual decisions of the masses.

Thats at least my opinion.

Moody
Thursday, February 19th, 2004, 06:23 PM
We must thank Mr. Lowell for his frank and full responses.
The beauty of forums such as this is that we are able to pursue Truth; we are able to take an honest look at our own arguments.

'White Supremacy' as a doctrine has been smeared, and is looked on as the preserve of cranks by the mainstream.
And yet isn't it natural for any race to feel themselves superior to others?

Now when that supremacy is based on vanity, and is therefore empty, then it is a fool's errand.
But if, as Mr. Lowell suggests, there is evidence for that feeling of superitority amongst Whites to be based on Truth, now why shouldn't that Supremacy be proclaimed with all its force?

Is the answer that, while we recognise that racial supremacy exists, we mustn't promote it because it implies the existence of racial inferiority!

So Truth should dictate here; if we believe in something, should we make claims for it?
If the answer to that question is 'yes', then we are making value judgements.

This is a difficult topic.

The question of collectivism likewise touches on Truth.
An extreme individualist, like a Max Stirner and an Ayn Rand, will reject Race as a collectivism. They will say that it is an example of the 'herd mentality'.

Therefore, I say that we cannot be extreme individualists. Rather we recognise that Races are products of Nature, and we glory in the excellence of our own Race, and we know that the greatest individuals of our Race would be nothing without their Heredity.

It is not hard to suggest, as Mr. Lowell does, that just as the Race is a product of Nature, so then is the Individual a product of the Race.

Here I feel that this nexus of race and individual is mirrored in the concept of Folk and Leader.

Telperion
Friday, April 16th, 2004, 11:35 PM
If I understand the thrust of Mr. Lowell's ideas correctly, they seem to be based to a significant degree on the model established in Plato's 'Republic' (though I'm not sure if he would agree with that comparison).

His ideas are interesting, and worth looking into. However, at this point I do have a couple of concerns about them:

- He seems to solve the 'problem' of civic virtue (in Machiavelli's sense) by bifurcating society, so that every member of the Elite is a paragon of civic virtue (dedication to the public interest of the political community, and in this case the race), while apparently none of the masses possess any civic virtue. Of course, no such society has ever actually existed, so that makes me wonder about the extent to which this is a workable idea. In particular, what ensures that the all-powerful Elite remains infused with civic virtue, i.e. dedicated to the public interest of the polity and the race, rather than becoming self-serving and abusing its power for its own benefit? I.e., what specifically will prevent the virtuous Elite from eventually degenerating into a corrupt, self-serving oligarchy? It seems to me that an answer to this question has to be worked out very carefully for the proposed society/polity to function as envisioned.

- By dealing with the civic virtue question in this way, Mr. Lowell seems to be trying to envision a society that breaks free from the cycle of history, since it no longer is subject to the processes of rise, decline and fall (which I would argue hinge significantly on the civic virtue question) that have shaped all civilizations to date. I suppose I am generally skeptical that this is possible, although it might be possible if a convincing answer to the first point above can be developed.

- Some of Mr. Lowell's comments seem to imply that he thinks that the triumph of his proposed society is 'inevitable' (if I've read his material correctly, perhaps I've misinterpreted him) . My own view is that our European civilization (in Europe and its former colonies) is in serious decline, and our own survival as a race is endangered. There is nothing inevitable about the prospect of our arresting and reversing this decline, and saving ourselves, so we can't afford to be complacent about it. A sense of urgency about the gravity of the threat facing us is needed. (Perhaps he feels this urgency, but I didn't get the impression that he views our situation as being so precarious, to the extent that he feels we are bound to triumph - again, perhaps I didn't interpret his ideas correctly.)

Ederico
Saturday, April 17th, 2004, 01:10 PM
The problem with this is that it is impossible for the most people.
It would be only possible if there would be a real biological and educational Aristocracy which do not exist in great numbers in any race at the moment.

So it may be a nice thought but unreastilic because its too high requirements for the individuals which would again, like it was the case in USrael fail if there is no structural collective power and strong normative moral above individual decisions of the masses.

Thats at least my opinion.
I personally agree with the above.

@All

I will try to get Norman Lowell's views regarding your comments, I am sure he will appreciate the interest of Intelligent Individuals.

By the way, you do not need to call him Mr. Lowell (according to him).

ogenoct
Wednesday, September 16th, 2009, 11:06 AM
Here is my introduction to Norman Lowell’s new book IMPERIUM EUROPA: A BOOK THAT CHANGED THE WORLD. You can order the book here: http://www.amazon.com/Imperium-Europa-Book-Changed-World/dp/1615396012


OUR MOTHERLAND: IMPERIUM EUROPA

by Constantin von Hoffmeister


“The nations are dead, for Europe is born.”
-- Francis Parker Yockey

Norman Lowell has a vision. A vision of what Europe will become. Not what Europe should become but what Europe WILL become. According to Lowell, the year 2012 will be the year 0. Time will start afresh for our race. A new beginning, a new dawn - a new aeon approaches. While ancient traditions will be upheld and cherished, modern technology will be implemented to both boldly innovate new paths and persistently perpetuate former greatness. Lowell wants Aryan heroes of yore, like ancient Spartan warrior Leonidas, to be cloned, thus ensuring that the new genetically enhanced generation of natural leaders will be supported by proven leaders from our glorious past. A new species of Aryan supermen will once again rule the planet and - finally! - the cosmos beyond.

Lowell is right when he stresses the importance of the unity of ALL Europeans. Only as a unified bloc will the White race be able to overcome the anti-Occidental forces which have as their ultimate goal the total destruction of Magna Europa (Europe and its daughters AmeriKa, Canada, Chile, Argentina and Australasia) and the complete annihilation of all Europids on the planet. Alas, a White race bloc (composed of Anglo-Saxons, Teutons, Slavs and Latins) that asserts itself as such will be able to once and for all overcome internal divisions only if it ruthlessly crushes all signs of resurging petty nationalisms. There is no place for separatist tendencies in the Imperium Europa. A fragmented Europe, as the past has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, is a weak Europe. The need for a Europe that is truly ONE is a pressing need indeed: a Europe “from sea to shining to sea,” from Dublin to Vladivostok is the ONLY Europe that has any chance of survival in the cataclysmic events that lie ahead. Like Friedrich Nietzsche, one has to learn to become “a good European” instead of a good German, a good Russian, a good Englishman, etc.

Our true motherland is the Imperium Europa! We must forge a new identity! We must create the new European man! Nations are concepts that betray the imperial destiny of the worker as the creator of a new cosmos. The economy, as well as society at large, must be centralized. This is why we need an Imperium Europa. While each nation has the right to retain its cultural and ethnic autonomy, chauvinist nationalisms must be crushed. We must oppose petty nationalism as it is a provincial dead-end form of worship. The only nation that must be worshipped is Holy Europe. The mixing of different European nationalities should therefore be encouraged. We must support sexual unions between Russian women and German men, Spanish men and Swedish women. Only by radically breaking down the artificial barriers dividing Europe can we create the new breed of man - a breed that has ONE allegiance only, the allegiance to the Imperium Europa!

Imperial capitalism as opposed to international capitalism is the best economic system for the future empire. There will be no need for an influx of cheap labor in the form of racially alien immigrants or “guest workers” if all citizens of the empire can freely trade within the empire’s borders, without the pressure that the current global financial system imposes upon Europe by flooding its gates with inferior goods, services and people. Europe simply cannot compete with the incredibly low standards of the Third World. Hence, Europe must force itself to rigidly adhere to its own standards which should be nothing less than excellent. In opposition to Lowell, I would dare argue that some form of social commitment from the side of the state is necessary to ensure that the weaker elements of the population are properly taken care of. After all, the elite exists to serve the masses and not the other way around. Hence, free-market socialism seems to be the appropriate model for implementing both the necessary competition to guarantee progress and the vital security net that the state must provide for its citizens in need. Socialism denotes the ineludible bond of common ancestry.

Lowell is correct when he argues that all life on Earth might be extinguished at any moment by a meteorite. This is why, according to Lowell, our race must get off this planet and start colonizing space. While avoiding danger might be one of the reasons for racial expansion in deep space, another - and more natural! - incentive is the mere existence of the Promethean aspect of our race soul, an existence that can never be denied and never be suppressed. Self-sufficiency is the key. However, it is imperative that we shall not limit our scope to this planet only. We must ever strive to become the Faustian beasts that we were always meant to be. The sun must circle around US! Domination of our own by ourselves is a necessary prerequisite, in order to establish the Imperium of the End, ruled by the dictatorship of the class that creates. There is no Aryan nation. There is only an Aryan class. Programs to colonize and eventually terraform new planets need to be established (after all, the threat of meteorites threatening our race on Earth is a very real one). NOVA EVROPA will be the first Aryan settlement on Mars.

The Prolet-Aryan is the creator and sustainer who destroys the old order, paving the way for the new and improved. He lends a guiding hand to the lesser races, elevating them with his own ascent to godhood. The red flag of socialism is the flag of blood, the blood that flows in the veins of the Aryan worker-soldiers of the coming empire of war, struggle and conquest. Like the socialist flag, Mars is red. Mars is not only a planet but also the god of war. Hence, war must be declared in the name of blood and the red planet colonized in the name of socialism. Yuri Gagarin showed us the way. We must follow!

Because of its non-universal nature and ethnic character, Paganism (in all its incarnations, be they Odinism or Mithraism) is Europe’s only legitimate religion. Christianity is indeed, as Norman Lowell calls it, “an abject religion fit for children and slaves.” The main and most glaring problem that Europe has with Christianity is that this religion is not European, either in nature or origin. No matter how much of Christianity has been Paganized (or Europeanized), in its essence it remains a Semitic cult from the desert of the Middle East. Anti-Semitic European Christians are the epitome of hypocrisy as they worship a dead Jew on a piece of wood (which, to make it even clearer, had “I.N.R.I.” ["Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews"] written on it) while at the same time denigrating all Jews (even European ones) collectively as enemies of the West. Lowell has good reasons to attack the Church. The Church, being the official representative of an alien creed, has made its anti-European intentions known. The Jesuits in Malta ("refuse collectors” as Lowell correctly calls them) and their Catholic brothers elsewhere in Europe favor unrestricted immigration, based on the insane Christian belief that your enemy should be loved and not fought. The times of the Crusades, when the Church actually favored the defense of Europe against her enemies from the desert, are gone. The current behavior of the Church merely proves that Europe flourished not because of but in spite of Christianity. As self-aware and confident Europeans, we must praise Dr. Faustus the Aryan, not Jesus the Semite!

Influenced by the Belgian geopolitician Jean Thiriart, Lowell shows himself to be a true libertarian when he argues that, while the future empire should be strictly guarded against external threats, inside the empire complete freedom for the individual should reign (e.g., legalization of drugs, freedom of speech, etc.). To put it another way: It should not matter what one does in private when one is a loyal citizen of the empire in public. In the future European empire, the private and public spheres of life will be strictly separate. Or as Thiriart argued, the Imperium (concerned with imperial decisions) is distinct and not necessarily a reflection of the Dominium (concerned with personal decisions). If one wants a hooker and shoot up heroin, one should be free to get one and do so. We do not need moralizing pundits in the empire. The empire will not be a nanny state, composed of repressed individuals and zealous Puritans. In short, the future European empire will not become a for Whites only carbon copy of the contemporary US of A!

Lowell astutely points out a fact that many White nationalists (especially the chauvinist European variety) like to forget: AmeriKa is an integral part of Magna Europa. Contemporary White Americans (AKA the only true Americans) are not nearly as emasculated as contemporary Europeans. (White) Americans still have an essentially healthy imperial vision. It is thus a shame that AmeriKa’s vigorous, and basically Faustian, drive for world domination is not based on a race-affirming ideology (as it was in the glory days of Teddy Roosevelt). From a Machiavellian point of view, there is nothing wrong with AmeriKa’s subjugation of the Middle East. However, this endeavor would only be noble if it served an Aryan objective. Vinland awake! It is not too late. If AmeriKa once again realized its holy mission to assert European might (as opposed to abstract and false values, such as “universal” [no such thing] democracy) across the globe, it would be able to safeguard European man’s iron grip of dominance. Invading countries like Iraq and Iran would be noble pursuits if it were done to exploit these countries (for the benefit of the White race only) instead of “liberating” them (for the benefit of a multiracial and bastardized elite). Lowell’s message must be heeded by Washington: AmeriKa must come home into the future Imperium Europa. A bridge across the Bering Strait!

Lowell prophesies that in the future Imperium, all citizens will be “proud to belong to that Biological Aristocracy that is the Europid Race.” That is what I call Gene Pool Romanticism, the mystical glorification of blood and the rational exaltation of the whole (as opposed to the indiviudal parts that make up the whole). While individuals are many, the Race is one. Through generations and through aeons, links have been unbroken, from Cristopher Columbus to Neil Armstrong, individuals of the Race conquering new ground for the Race as a whole. As the late John Tyndall said, Armstrong’s was “a giant leap for White mankind!”

time has come
to close the window
shut out the draft
the filthy stench
to breathe the air
of freedom
to rule all
here
and evermore
an empire
to bind
perplexing vision
fit for masters
not sheep

IMPERIUM EUROPA EST PATRIA NOSTRA!


Moscow, Russia - October 19, 2007