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nooneatall
Tuesday, October 24th, 2006, 11:05 AM
Recently I’ve been spending more time on a teen/anime oriented forum and less on skadi. On this forum I’ve noticed a quite a few Aussies spewing forth the line “Australia is the most multicultural nation on the planet“. They usually do this when some forum member makes some non PC statement regarding race. I’ve been starting to wonder… is this a line that Aussie politicians lard their speeches with or something? And what exactly makes Australia so much more multicult than say the UK?

Furius
Tuesday, October 24th, 2006, 05:30 PM
Yes, the phrase "Australia is the most multicultural nation in the world" is a standard part of the Multicultural propaganda line in Australia, pushed by politicians, teachers, and the media.

Usually it's accompanied by "Australia has people from [insert number, usually about 160] cultures"

Maybe it's meant to make us all feel "special"?

The propaganda line is that Australia doesn't have it's own culture (even though we do), and therefore the only way we can be "special" is by being a mega-mix of other cultures.

It's just Multicultural propaganda.

Aeric
Tuesday, October 24th, 2006, 11:06 PM
My wife is Australian. Her reaction to the multiculturalist BS is simple and direct. She says: "None of the liberal politicians ever gave the white/germanic inhabitants any choice". She suspects that the Labour Party benefits from an influx of immigrants who are likely to provide votes. This seems to be a consistent pattern amongst socialist parties - the UK Labour Party relies heavily on block votes from 'Tame Darkies'.

Aeric

nooneatall
Wednesday, October 25th, 2006, 11:26 AM
Yes, the phrase "Australia is the most multicultural nation in the world" is a standard part of the Multicultural propaganda line in Australia, pushed by politicians, teachers, and the media.

Usually it's accompanied by "Australia has people from [insert number, usually about 160] cultures"
I first heard this "I live in Australia the most Multicultural nation in the world" claim made in conjunction with the claim that an interracial couple doesn't even get a dirty look there in Australia.

Æmeric
Wednesday, October 25th, 2006, 04:31 PM
How is Australia the most multicultural nation? The US has a native Negro/Mulatto group, Native Amerindians, Mestizos & Amerindians from Latin America, communities of Afro-Carribeans, Immigrants from Africa,
Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Filipinos, Vietnamese, Hmong, Pacific Islanders, Hindus, Pakistanis, Iranians, Arabs & Jews. The non-Europid population of the US is over 100 million, more than 5 X Australia's total population. In addition between 20% to 25% of the Europid population is of Mediterranean or Slavic origins. I'm not proud of any of this but the US is more multicultural (ethnically divided) than Australia. I also think Canada is more multicultural than Australia.

Kriegsberichter
Wednesday, October 25th, 2006, 05:06 PM
In Europe, i mean, that the most multicultural nation is France.

PeterThaGreat
Wednesday, October 25th, 2006, 10:11 PM
In Europe, i mean, that the most multicultural nation is France.


Sorry, In Europe the most multi-cultural nation is Russia.

Aeric
Wednesday, October 25th, 2006, 11:26 PM
I first heard this "I live in Australia the most Multicultural nation in the world" claim made in conjunction with the claim that an interracial couple doesn't even get a dirty look there in Australia.

My beautiful Australian wife says that if mixed race couples walk down around Sydney without being noticed, it is only because they are 'wog and wog together' - by which she means different varieties of ethnics who, though often fair-skinned or fair-haired, only resemble our Volk on the outside. In her neighbourhood, any germanic Aussie who became a race-mixer would probably be stoned in the streets...'Wog Lover' is not a term of honour in her book.

Aeric

PeterThaGreat
Wednesday, October 25th, 2006, 11:35 PM
My beautiful Australian wife says that if mixed race couples walk down around Sydney without being noticed, it is only because they are 'wog and wog together' - by which she means different varieties of ethnics who, though often fair-skinned or fair-haired, only resemble our Volk on the outside. In her neighbourhood, any germanic Aussie who became a race-mixer would probably be stoned in the streets...'Wog Lover' is not a term of honour in her book.

Aeric


Funny, what I observed in US, especially New York ( You really don't see that much inter-racial couples in US, more in UK and Europe), the ladies who dated brothas, were usually always some etnic-whites. Greek, Ginnies (italians) or some low-class Ukrainian-looking. Not many germanic wasp's among them.

Jäger
Wednesday, October 25th, 2006, 11:40 PM
were usually always some etnic-whites. Greek, Ginnies (italians) or some low-class Ukrainian-looking. Not many germanic wasp's among them.
When I was in New York, all germanic whites were tourists :|
They all looked italian at best to me. Then agian I just was in Manhattan.

PeterThaGreat
Wednesday, October 25th, 2006, 11:48 PM
When I was in New York, all germanic whites were tourists :|
They all looked italian at best to me. Then agian I just was in Manhattan.


When I was in New York the lower manhattan and Upper East-Side looked like it has been invaded by Norsemen. For some odd reason almoust all of those who occupy the finance branch, seem to share considerable amount of germanic genes. Usually the ginnies stick to Brooklyn.

Oswiu
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 01:57 AM
Sorry, In Europe the most multi-cultural nation is Russia.
I don't know about that - notice you said cultural not ethnic, or even racial. True Russian culture is supreme in the Russian Federation [though I hear this is less so in Tatarstan or down by the Caucasus, where it is at least localised, but I haven't been there yet]. The smaller nations make little impact on public life or the national consciousness of the Slavonic majority.

Red Skull
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 02:03 AM
If Yugoslavia was still around then it would be Europe's most multicultural nation. Or maybe the USSR.

But today, I'd say the Netherlands (particularly Amsterdam) or France.

Pro-Alpine
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 02:07 AM
UK, France, Netherlands(espically the cities) and parts of Sweden are terrible.

Red Skull
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 02:16 AM
UK, France, Netherlands(espically the cities) and parts of Sweden are terrible.
Only Göteborg and Stockholm as far as I know.

I don't feel like I'm in Sweden when taking the Stockholm subway, more like the Middle East.

Theudiskaz
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 02:19 AM
...Greek, Ginnies (italians) or some low-class Ukrainian-looking. Not many germanic wasp's among them.
That's because New York is all but devoid of real (British/Germanic)Americans. For a midwesterner like me, going to New York City is like going to a foreign country.:| Rural Upstate New York, on the other hand is very nice. It has some of the most beautiful driving country and yes, wilderness in the country.

Siegfried
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 09:38 AM
How is Australia the most multicultural nation? The US has a native Negro/Mulatto group, Native Amerindians, Mestizos & Amerindians from Latin America, communities of Afro-Carribeans, Immigrants from Africa,
Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Filipinos, Vietnamese, Hmong, Pacific Islanders, Hindus, Pakistanis, Iranians, Arabs & Jews. The non-Europid population of the US is over 100 million, more than 5 X Australia's total population. In addition between 20% to 25% of the Europid population is of Mediterranean or Slavic origins. I'm not proud of any of this but the US is more multicultural (ethnically divided) than Australia. I also think Canada is more multicultural than Australia.

The point is that Australia only has 20 million inhabitants, so if there really are about 160 cultures coexisting that is quite extreme, even when compared with the USA. Australia is nevertheless more of a "white man's land" than the USA, when you look at our percentage of the population.


If Yugoslavia was still around then it would be Europe's most multicultural nation. Or maybe the USSR.

But today, I'd say the Netherlands (particularlyAmsterdam)

Rotterdam may actually be worse than Amsterdam.

Æmeric
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 05:41 PM
Australia may have 160 cultures but the phrase "multicultural" implies a sort of equality among the different cultural groups. Some of those cultural groups must be very small, perhaps numbering in the only in the hundreds. I believe Australia probably still has a majority Anglo-Celtic population which is much more important than say the Uzbek-Australian community. The use of the world multicultural or multiracial is a way to imply that Euro-Australian or Anglo-Australians are a minority in Australia which is not yet true. It's a way of indoctrinating young minds into accepting a multiracial future as if it is already to late to do anything about the current immigration crisis face Germanic/Nordish societies.

Pervitinist
Friday, October 27th, 2006, 01:44 AM
I just found this on BBC:


Australia's Muslims fear backlash
By Nick Bryant, BBC News, Sydney

A few weeks ago, I happened to interview Sheikh Taj el-Din al-Hilali outside the Lakemba Mosque in Sydney where he delivered his controversial sermon.

A softly-spoken man, who clearly commands both enormous respect and affection within his community, the Egyptian-born cleric discussed the government's recent proposals for an Australian citizenship test - an examination which many Muslim immigrants believe is targeted at them.

His English is poor, and it was difficult at times to make out precisely what he was saying.

But he told me he was keen to encourage the greater use of English in mosques and for Imams to gain a much greater understanding of Australian history and culture.

'Aussie imam'

Though he did not agree with Prime Minister John Howard's contentious view that sections of the 300,000-strong Muslim community are not doing enough to integrate themselves into the mainstream of Australian society, he seemed prepared at least to address the criticism in a constructive way.

Sheikh Hilali referred more than once to the idea of "the Aussie imam", as he called it - model clerics with a broad knowledge of Australian culture and history.

Neat, snappy and eminently quotable. Just the kind of epithet which sticks in a journalist's mind.
Now some of the cleric's fellow Muslims, including the Islamic Council of New South Wales, are calling his comments comparing immodestly dressed women to "uncovered meat" as "unIslamic, unAustralian and unacceptable."

Far from building bridges with the wider community, he seems to have dug himself an almighty hole.

'Values debate'

Senior figures in the governing Liberal Party have seized upon his remarks, citing them as proof that John Howard's criticisms of sections of the Muslim community are founded in fact.

Treasurer Peter Costello, a critic of what he calls "mushy multiculturalism" and a prime ministerial hopeful, was strong - and early - in his condemnation.

Pru Goward, the country's outgoing Sex Discrimination Commissioner, also weighed in, calling for the cleric to either be deported or prosecuted for incitement to rape.

A leading light in the Liberal Party, Ms Goward is a parliamentary candidate and is said to harbour prime ministerial ambitions of her own.
She will not have done her chances any harm by speaking out so forcefully on this issue.

By drawing attention to what it regards as instances of Islamic extremism, the Liberal Party clearly believes it is on the right side of the "values debate" and speaks for a large section of the electorate.

The Labour leader Kim Beazley also demanded a retraction.

Backlash feared

Sheikh Hilali has not only given his critics ammunition. His remarks seem all the more extraordinary given the sensitive nature of race relations in Sydney right now.

The city is approaching the first anniversary of the ugly race riots on Cronulla beach last December, when white youths attacked people of Middle Eastern background - sparking a number of retaliatory attacks.
Only this month, the New South Wales police launched "Operation Beachsafe," assigning a flying squad of some 80 officers to patrol known trouble-spots in the hope of averting further trouble.

The fear in Sydney is that rising summer temperatures could be accompanied by a rise in racial tension.

Certainly, many Muslim leaders fear a backlash.

"I am expecting a deluge of hate mail," said Walid Ali of the Islamic Council of Victoria. "I am expecting people to get abused in the street and get abused at work."

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/asia-pacific/6088664.stm
Published: 2006/10/26 16:56:35 GMT © BBC MMVI

Dr. Solar Wolff
Friday, October 27th, 2006, 06:39 AM
How is Australia the most multicultural nation? The US has a native Negro/Mulatto group, Native Amerindians, Mestizos & Amerindians from Latin America, communities of Afro-Carribeans, Immigrants from Africa,
Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Filipinos, Vietnamese, Hmong, Pacific Islanders, Hindus, Pakistanis, Iranians, Arabs & Jews. The non-Europid population of the US is over 100 million, more than 5 X Australia's total population. In addition between 20% to 25% of the Europid population is of Mediterranean or Slavic origins. I'm not proud of any of this but the US is more multicultural (ethnically divided) than Australia. I also think Canada is more multicultural than Australia.


It would be great and comforting to die, thinking that Australia had learned from our (US) mistakes. When someone returned from Australia people would ask "how is it downunder?". The answer would be "like the USA in the early 1960s". Of course, this sounded great!! Now, this news is depressing.

Aeric
Friday, October 27th, 2006, 11:00 AM
Lakamba is the community where the Moslems are in the habit of blocking all the streets in the areas surrounding (and leading to) their mosque whenever they gather to pray, debate or socialise. Nobody gave them permission to do this - nor do they have a permit to place all the white residents of the suburb under virtual house arrest - but the police are effectively powerless to remove the numerous parked cars which act as barricades. Asking the self-appointed Islamic street patrols to disperse is seen as an invitation to start a race riot - so the alien invaders are allowed to take over the suburb and do as they please. Isn't multiculturalism working well in Oz?...well, not if you are white and living in any place where the moslems decide to plant a mosque.

I have been informed that the mosque has a sound/PA system that would serve all the needs of the loudest stadium-filling 'Heavy Metal' band. If that is true, I pity the poor people who are trapped indoors, watching the picture frames and chandeliers shaking when the 'Call To Prayer' is sounded. My wife tells me that, without a doubt, many of the original white residents have sold their homes and moved to districts where they aren't imprisoned on a regular basis.

Aeric