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Nordgau
Sunday, October 23rd, 2005, 05:36 PM
Use the stages on the Hamilton Norwood chart here for the options.

http://www.haarerkrankungen.de/therapie/therapiebilder/hamiltonnorwoodskala.gif


On the chart, I'm between stage 1 and 2, I guess. Alopecia has already eaten itself upwards the edges of the forehead, but fortunately hair loss didn't expand further, and the situation is stable now for already five years. Also the hair between the edges is strong and full enough to serve more or less as covering for the edges. :)

@Zyklop: I had to delete the original thread for making the votes public. You may pick up your text from the remnants and repost it.

Arcturus
Sunday, October 23rd, 2005, 05:42 PM
I suppose I'm between 1 and 2, closer to 2 though... I'll say 2, as its likely to be there at some point in the near future (if not alredy) but doubtful I'll go back to 1...:D

EDIT: Except, the thinning at the back of the head, which I just noticed in the picture but I do not have. Still going strong back there (thank goodness...)

Zyklop
Sunday, October 23rd, 2005, 05:43 PM
My hair is slightly retreating on the edges of the forehead but it´s not really much and I still can dress it the Hitler Youth style.
Propyhlactically, I recently acquired me hair energizing Alpecin Coffein Shampoo.

Nordgau
Sunday, October 23rd, 2005, 05:49 PM
By the way, I'm not exactly sure if the first stage is already the actual first stage of hair loss or if it is rather meant to be the perfect not-yet-hair-loss starting point. On the other side, the edges in stage 1 are already pretty deep under attack, and the dude in stage 2a doesn't look as if it was his "first" stage of alopecia ... :D Whatever ...


[...] and I still can dress it the Hitler Youth style.

Same here. :D


Propyhlactically, I recently acquired me hair energizing Alpecin Coffein Shampoo.

I prefer drinking the stuff ... :coffee: That's probably why my hair situation is stable. :D By the way, is Njörd bald like a billard ball? :D

Triglav
Sunday, October 23rd, 2005, 06:08 PM
For the past 5 years I've been lingering in stage 1. :coffee:

Zyklop
Sunday, October 23rd, 2005, 06:13 PM
I prefer drinking the stuff ... :coffee:
I just tried and it tasted awful. You must be very desperate with your hair...

Skildur
Sunday, October 23rd, 2005, 09:05 PM
For the past 5 years I've been lingering in stage 1. :coffee:


Same here.

AndreasBolle
Sunday, October 23rd, 2005, 09:12 PM
Stage 7, here...been that way for about 20 yrs.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/andreasbolle/hamr-bul_6590.gif
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With friendly greetings
~Andreas

Alizon Device
Sunday, October 23rd, 2005, 09:20 PM
When I was about 21, I noticed some receding of my front hairline, and I panicked, a). because my maternal grandad was bald, and b). I had hair down nearly to my waist (and had a recurring nightmare about having it cut!).

But it stopped as abruptly as it started and there has been no change from Stage 1 or 2 since.

I don't think baldness is the problem, rather these people who try to disguise it by making their remaining wisps cover their whole head!

If my hair does start to go, it'll be out with the clippers, get it all off, and walk proud!

lei.talk
Sunday, October 23rd, 2005, 10:57 PM
assuming adequate nutrition,
men secrete testosterone several times a day.

equally frequent and sufficiently demanding stressor-stimuli
(resistance-exercise, combative activities, sex)
directs this hormonal cascade down healthful channels.

if not utilised for anabolism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolism),
the testosterone degrades in to di-hydro-testosterone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrotestosterone)
and a variety of estrogenic molecules.

the affect of the estrogens is obvious.

di-hydro-testosterone causes almost all balding (http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-019a.shtml#typeshairloss).

the prevention is more frequent and intense sex/exercise,

which is, i think, a less expensive and more pleasant remedy
than any other.

DreamWalker
Monday, October 24th, 2005, 08:03 AM
di-hydro-testosterone causes almost all balding (http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-019a.shtml#typeshairloss).

the prevention is more frequent and intense sex


I am far too frail for such behavior:coffee:

:rolleyes:

lei.talk
Monday, October 24th, 2005, 08:22 AM
I am far too frail for such behaviorone could apply the same protocol as any other exercise:
initiate your program with a light weight,
few repetitions, lengthy rest-period
and infrequent application.

as your strength and endurance allow,
increase the frequency,
shorten the recuperative period,
engage in more repetitions
and - if inclined - indulge in heavier weights.

DreamWalker
Monday, October 24th, 2005, 06:48 PM
I am far too frail for such behavior



one could apply the same protocol as any other exercise:
initiate your program with a light weight,
few repetitions, lengthy rest-period
and infrequent application.

as your strength and endurance allow,
increase the frequency,
shorten the recuperative period,
engage in more repetitions
and - if inclined - indulge in heavier weights.
No fat chicks!:icon_surp

lei.talk
Monday, October 24th, 2005, 08:15 PM
No fat chicks (http://www.forums.skadi.net/showpost.php?p=127679&postcount=1387)!:icon_surp:icon1:
i can not speak from any experience
on this subject,
but, i have been told
that up in cold-country
- a more substantial female
will keep you warmer
during hibernation.

anonymaus
Monday, October 24th, 2005, 08:27 PM
The words 'Off' and 'Topic' come to mind. And yes, up North it's beneficial for one's woman to have some meat on her bones :D

Sigel
Monday, October 24th, 2005, 08:34 PM
the prevention is more frequent and intense sex/exercise
Now, I'm wondering if there's a chat-up line in there somewhere:D

lei.talk
Monday, October 24th, 2005, 08:47 PM
the prevention is more frequent and intense sex/exercise

Now, I'm wondering if there's a chat-up line in there somewhere:Dif a girl proffered such information,
it would demonstrate a paucity of intellectual curiousity
not to render some in-depth advisement.

lei.talk
Monday, October 24th, 2005, 09:05 PM
as your strength and endurance allow,
increase the frequency,
shorten the recuperative period,
engage in more repetitions
and - if inclined - indulge in heavier weights.
:icon_surp I am far too frail for such behavior :icon_surpi have, just, received some confirmation
regarding your expressed reservations.
Although the heavier the weights get,
the more careful one must be in handling them
to avoid injury (to oneself, not the partner in exercise in this case).

Zyklop
Monday, October 24th, 2005, 09:06 PM
Gentlemen, we really need to create an adult forum for you... ;)

lei.talk
Monday, October 24th, 2005, 09:37 PM
truly, "balding" is an adult issue
- although, some teens have an expressed interest (http://www.forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=110581#post110581).

DreamWalker
Tuesday, October 25th, 2005, 01:35 AM
:icon1:
i can not speak from any experience
on this subject,
but, i have been told
that up in cold-country
- a more substantial female
will keep you warmer
during hibernation.
I'm heard that itz far cheaper to put an extra blanket on the bed than feed a fatchick:coffee:

Back to the original topic:redface:

lei.talk
Tuesday, October 25th, 2005, 02:19 AM
the thermo-dynamic benefits
are buttressed
by a tangential economic consideration:

once the two of you have been snowed-in,
you need not feed her.

i mean - look at her - some one else has already fed her.

enjoy the heat from all those stored-calories
and, come the spring,
allow her to roam free
and bulk-up on greener pastures
as preparation for her next hibernation.

Glory
Tuesday, October 25th, 2005, 02:44 AM
I'm 17 so no hair loss yet. Although my dad is 55 and has a full set of hair on his head, so hopefully I won't lose my hair.:D

DreamWalker
Tuesday, October 25th, 2005, 05:17 AM
the thermo-dynamic benefits
are buttressed
by a tangential economic consideration:

once the two of you have been snowed-in,
you need not feed her.

i mean - look at her - some one else has already fed her.

enjoy the heat from all those stored-calories
and, come the spring,
allow her to roam free
and bulk-up on greener pastures
as preparation for her next hibernation.
:O :speechles :icon_surp



come the spring, allow her to roam free

:sheep:

:rotfl:

DreamWalker
Tuesday, October 25th, 2005, 05:20 AM
I'm 17 so no hair loss yet. Although my dad is 55 and has a full set of hair on his head, so hopefully I won't lose my hair.:D
Actually, male baldness is determined by a gene on the mothers side, so to get an idea of what your hair will look like in the future, look at your mother's brothers.:cool:

Thobjorn
Tuesday, October 25th, 2005, 05:43 AM
lmao this thread is great, i must say.

Constantinus
Tuesday, October 25th, 2005, 07:49 PM
I'm not losing any hair yet. On the contrary, it grows on my back too now. :frown:

GreenHeart
Friday, October 28th, 2005, 02:37 AM
No, my hair is ultra thick, and no one in my family ever did either, although my dads forehead is getting a little high, but he works himself way too hard and never eats anything. :frown:

Lissu
Friday, October 28th, 2005, 10:11 AM
No, my hair is ultra thick, and no one in my family ever did either, although my dads forehead is getting a little high, but he works himself way too hard and never eats anything. :frown:This poll was for men only ;)

Lissu
Friday, October 28th, 2005, 10:44 AM
As for my family, my father has stage 7 baldness and the top of the head of my brother is becoming bald.

Neither one of the have ever tried to hide their baldness which is a good thing. Next to nothing is as pitiful than growing side hair to comb it over the bald spot :gay: If one wants to cover their bald, the best way is to shave off the rest ;) This is what my brother does nowadays, and it looks good :) My dad has such a nice silverly white hair so it doesn't bother if he keeps his hair little longer like 1 cm.

GreenHeart
Friday, October 28th, 2005, 11:36 AM
This poll was for men only ;)

Sorry, somehow I missed that part! But women can lose their hair too. :speechles

Lissu
Friday, October 28th, 2005, 11:41 AM
Sorry, somehow I missed that part! But women can lose their hair too. :speechlesNo worries, these things happen ;) I removed the vote, but unfortunately your username still appears in the poll.

Nordgau
Friday, October 28th, 2005, 01:52 PM
Sorry, somehow I missed that part! But women can lose their hair too. :speechles

Yes, but it is a pathological phenomenon with women, while with men, at least with male hair loss as a mass phenomenon, it has natural-genetical reasons (alopecia androgenetica).

SouthernBoy
Friday, October 28th, 2005, 03:16 PM
One; hoping for more. :P

Nordgau
Friday, October 28th, 2005, 04:00 PM
One; hoping for more. :P

Wanna begin with afforestation measures up there? :P (Brrr, that is such a disgusting procedure. :speechles)


http://espanol.bosley.com/men/images/flying_hair.jpg

http://www.hairlossforum.net/images/cole/009.jpg

http://www.brandymd.com/images/cst_follicular_unit4.jpg

http://www.clonemyhair.com/paypal/images/photogallery_images/l_113.jpg

http://www.brandymd.com/images/articles/singlescar2.jpg

Constantinus
Friday, October 28th, 2005, 04:01 PM
Does that work with backhair too?

Nordgau
Friday, October 28th, 2005, 04:05 PM
Does that work with backhair too?

I guess one could theoretically even transplant one's pubic hair onto one's bonce. But it would probably yield not the most aesthetically pleasant result. :P

Glory
Friday, October 28th, 2005, 06:50 PM
I guess one could theoretically even transplant one's pubic hair onto one's bonce. But it would probably yield not the most aesthetically pleasant result. :P
And then your hair would look like this
http://www.beatrecords.co.za/oscommerce/images/pitch-black-afro.jpg

Nordgau
Friday, October 28th, 2005, 08:56 PM
And then your hair would look like this
http://www.beatrecords.co.za/oscommerce/images/pitch-black-afro.jpg

Your pubic hair seems to sprout enviably abundantly. :P

(Seriously, as far as I know any hair you transplant onto your nob from elsewhere won't be more or become longer or grow different than it did at the location where it was originally. You can imagine now how you look with your pubes nicely distributed up there. :D:D:D)

Lars_
Sunday, October 30th, 2005, 05:55 PM
I think Im at stage 1... or maybe 0.5. Not very worried though.

Nordgau
Thursday, November 30th, 2006, 07:02 PM
http://www.medizinfo.de/hautundhaar/haar/haarausfall/hamilton-norwood.gif

Stage II here comes closest to mine, I guess. But the situation is stable. There's ceasefire on my noggin already for years.

Weg
Thursday, November 30th, 2006, 07:35 PM
Why is stage II considered a hair loss stage?

SaveEurope
Thursday, November 30th, 2006, 09:11 PM
I'm Stage II by the looks of it. :|

Carl
Thursday, November 30th, 2006, 09:17 PM
No...... but do keep an eye on the radio-activity locally! :):thumbup


...........C........ :burn............... :sprint

lei.talk
Thursday, November 30th, 2006, 09:19 PM
a year after
the previous version of your thread (http://forums.skadi.net/have_you_got_hair_loss-t75696.html?p=620184),
you are definitely in "stage two"?

my advice (http://forums.skadi.net/have_you_got_hair_loss-t75696.html?p=620290) was not helpful?

dreamwalker expressed a few concerns (http://forums.skadi.net/have_you_got_hair_loss-t75696.html?p=620345),
but i was serious - in my initial response. :wsg

my younger brother, my father and his
all progressed to "stage three - vertex"
or "stage four" before they were my age.

allowing testosterone to linger in your system
- unused - exacerbates any genetic tendencies.

the balding of exogenous testosterone-analog users
serves as an extreme example.

Hohenheim
Thursday, November 30th, 2006, 09:21 PM
I'm stage two, and this must not mean that I'm going to lose my hair... or? But... my father is bald :( ;)

Nordgau
Thursday, November 30th, 2006, 09:27 PM
a year after
the previous version of your thread (http://forums.skadi.net/have_you_got_hair_loss-t75696.html?p=620184),
you are definitely in "stage two"?


Heck, that is here? That was at Nordish. I wasn't aware that the old threads there became real and living threads here with Thorburn buying the Nordish material for our "archive" at the sales. Then I certainly wouldn't have made a new poll here on that question.

Regarding my hair status: No, it hasn't changed at all. When I looked at that chart today, my status seemed for me "generally" to be rather around II (and I hadn't remembered where I put my cross at Nordish). But maybe it's with an "exact" comparative examination not that bad, and I'm indeed in the field between I and II. As you can read, I only "guessed" already in the old poll; maybe the drawings aren't exactly the same anyway. :D Whatever, I hope I will not be able to report of any "progress" happening up there so soon ... :D

Allenson
Thursday, November 30th, 2006, 09:43 PM
Well, I'm somewhere in my mid-30s (lost count at this point...and really, who the hell cares?! ;) ) and so-far, so-good: I still have a full head.

My father, according to the chart above is assuredly in the V-A -- VI range (in other words, a peeled potato ;) ) whereas my maternal grandfather died with a full head. So, if the old notion of baldness (or lack thereof) being inherited from the maternal grandfather, then I ought to be in pretty good shape as I get older.

I will say though, that my 'dirty blond' hair is slowing begining to turn white. I would hazard that I could count 20 - 30 whiteish strands at any one time. Once again though, this is following suit as my maternal grandfather went white with no baldness and my mother's hair became naturally frosted in her thirties and forties.

As they say: "better to go grey than have nay"! ;)

oneeyeisbetter
Thursday, November 30th, 2006, 09:47 PM
I only put "yes stage 2" because its how my hair line has looked since child hood (I think). I am not balding :thumbup .

Oswiu
Thursday, November 30th, 2006, 11:19 PM
http://www.medizinfo.de/hautundhaar/haar/haarausfall/hamilton-norwood.gif
I'm roughly -I;
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/3770/hamiltonnorwoodsc4.gif

Hohenheim
Thursday, November 30th, 2006, 11:29 PM
I'm roughly -I;

Damn :|

I'm 10 years younger then you and I'm two.

Glynd Eastŵd
Thursday, November 30th, 2006, 11:53 PM
I wonder: does anyone have the balls to actually post their hairline on here? That's the only way you can truly determine if you're going bald or not.

Maybe I'm rationalising, but I've always had a high forehead, and as a result my widow's peak hairline is also quite high. It follows the same pattern as my Welsh grandfather, who is going on 81 this year and still has almost a full head of hair. Most male members of my family still have their hair intact, save a few. I don't think these diagrams are that accurate, though, I know a lot of people this age who have type II or III hair and are certainly not balding.

But anyway, if you can hold out for four or five years, many scientists are confident that they can remedy baldness through the technique of hair cloning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair_multiplication

BuzKlown
Thursday, November 30th, 2006, 11:56 PM
88210

I'm a Stage VI. Wear a Hat.

D'Vadder
Friday, December 1st, 2006, 02:33 AM
No! When I cut my hair it grows to the same length within 3 months! :-O I need a cheap barber... :D

Weg
Friday, December 1st, 2006, 02:35 AM
Wearing a hat favour hair loss.

dazed&confused
Saturday, December 2nd, 2006, 02:31 AM
stage II here; I started losing hair at 19 but it's someway stabilized over the years not mentioning I use minoxidil 2 ml a day and finasteride 1mg a day. nothing miraculous about it but still turns out to be useful.
about 60% of men around 30 years old has experienced at least a minimun grade of hair loss anyway.

Thruthheim
Saturday, December 2nd, 2006, 02:47 AM
I'm stage I or II.
Does that Minoxidil/Finasteride/Topical shampoo combo work?
I've heard good things, how costly is it?

My Dads stage VI.. so he's pretty bald ;)

dazed&confused
Monday, December 4th, 2006, 02:38 PM
I'm stage I or II.
Does that Minoxidil/Finasteride/Topical shampoo combo work?
I've heard good things, how costly is it?

My Dads stage VI.. so he's pretty bald ;)

15 pills of proscar (which contains 5mg of finasteride) cost me about 18 euros and last 2 months (I split each pills in four parts for my daily dose).
I use to buy Minoxidil oline to lower the cost as much as possible. http://cheaprogaine.com/Rogaine.htm

As for the results, they might depend on the subject, sometimes it's effective in reversing hair loss, sometimes it works on mantaining your current situation, sometimes has minimal effectiveness (expecially on over-40 men)
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/460579_3
I started the therapy about 2 months ago, so I can't really tell yet;)

Japetos
Monday, December 4th, 2006, 04:48 PM
The most havent so high level of testosterone.:D

Vinrith
Monday, December 4th, 2006, 04:58 PM
Why is stage II considered a hair loss stage?

Yes, good question... since I'm a little children my hairs are in "stage II"... but I've not Hair loss. (:D This is the Hair stage of Hermann Göring, I'm very proud of it :D )

BuzKlown
Monday, December 4th, 2006, 05:18 PM
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Denger
Thursday, December 14th, 2006, 08:04 AM
Seems as if I am Stage II or Stage II A...

Eiriksson
Tuesday, April 5th, 2011, 01:08 PM
assuming adequate nutrition,
men secrete testosterone several times a day.

equally frequent and sufficiently demanding stressor-stimuli
(resistance-exercise, combative activities, sex)
directs this hormonal cascade down healthful channels.

if not utilised for anabolism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolism),
the testosterone degrades in to di-hydro-testosterone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrotestosterone)
and a variety of estrogenic molecules.

the affect of the estrogens is obvious.

di-hydro-testosterone causes almost all balding (http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-019a.shtml#typeshairloss).

the prevention is more frequent and intense sex/exercise,

which is, i think, a less expensive and more pleasant remedy
than any other.

more sex and sport activity leads to more testosterone levels, thus there's no escape guys.
btw I'm 23 and I'm closest to stage 4, yet I'm hairest(bodyhair) among my peers, being lean and totally leptomorphic at the same time.

Sindig_og_stoisk
Tuesday, April 5th, 2011, 02:01 PM
I am probably at stage II. I lost a little hair when I was in my late teens, which totally freaked me out.
However, when I served my conscription I simply kept my hair short and I kept doing that when I became a civilian again.
Now I just keep it short and spend no time at all worrying about hair.

If anyone is worried, I would recommend growing a full beard. That will give you plenty of hair for you to be proud of. I have read (somewhere!) that the combination of high hairline/baldness and full beard makes one look intelligent and authoriative, like a Greek philosopher.

SaxonPagan
Tuesday, April 5th, 2011, 02:30 PM
My hair seems to be lasting the course quite well although it's just starting to go a bit thin on top now. As I can't actually see this, I've adopted an "out of sight, out of mind" mentality and shall remain in this state of denial for as long as possible ;)

What I've noticed though is that as the hair on my head gets thinner, it seems to be growing abundantly elsewhere, such as on my chest (where I never had much before). If only I could transplant it from one place to another ... nature can be so cruel at times :(

Ingvaeonic
Tuesday, April 5th, 2011, 02:46 PM
My hair-line has been receding since I was 18. That being so, I am now balding at Stage 4 according to the chart at the beginning of this thread. I've lost practically all my hair on the top, but the back and sides still have normal hair growth. In my opinion, if a man is bald or balding it is infinitely better not to disguise the fact so it is better if the man concerned wears his hair short. Be Bald. Be Proud.