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HIM
Tuesday, October 4th, 2005, 08:31 PM
We were discussing Atomkraftwerke in my German class today and if it is a good thing or a bad thing and how it affects the environment. Many people were curious as to how Germans and other Europeans felt about nuclear power so I thought that I'd ask. So what are your thoughts on it? Do you support the production of energy by way of nuclear power or are you against its use?

Lissu
Tuesday, October 4th, 2005, 09:51 PM
I'm not German though, but in my opinion, nuclear power is the best we have at the moment. It is a clean way to produce electricity, and it is also a safe method when used properly.

At the moment Finland is the only western counrty building more nuclear power as we speak. Other countries will follow though, because there is no other ways to produce a lot of energy without carbon dioxide emission.

But like I said, nuclear power is the only way to replace fossil fuel at the moment. It will not be a sustainable method in the long run. In the meantime, it's the best we have.

anonymaus
Tuesday, October 4th, 2005, 09:58 PM
At the moment Finland is the only western counrty building more nuclear power as we speak.

I believe the province I live in is only debating "where" and "how many" more nuclear reactors we need at this point. It's a foregone conclusion that we need them and we will build them, only a matter of time until it the details are decided.

perkele14
Tuesday, October 4th, 2005, 10:16 PM
So what are your thoughts on it? Do you support the production of energy by way of nuclear power or are you against its use?

Our camp has pretty much answered that question here (http://www.forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=8072) :)

RoyBatty
Monday, October 10th, 2005, 10:11 AM
We were discussing Atomkraftwerke in my German class today and if it is a good thing or a bad thing and how it affects the environment. Many people were curious as to how Germans and other Europeans felt about nuclear power so I thought that I'd ask. So what are your thoughts on it? Do you support the production of energy by way of nuclear power or are you against its use?


Here's an interesting fact about nuclear power which ignorant Greenpeace bunnyhugger types often fail to grasp:


"Second, with regards to emissions, nuclear power is very clean compared to coal and gas. Nuclear fuel does come with its own waste problems, but emissions are practically zero. By comparison, a typical coal-fired power station emits some 11 million tonnes of carbon dioxide, one million tonnes of ash, 29,000 tonnes of nitrous oxide, 16,000 tonnes of sulphur dioxide, and produces 21,000 tonnes of sludge each year. And it's interesting to note that a coal-fired power station emits more radioactive material than a nuclear power station, as uranium is in coal and once burnt is released into the atmosphere via ash and dust."


http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/S/science/society/nuclearpower.html


If the nuclear waste is properly managed and stored deep underground in sealed containers (the way it should be) there is little, if any, environmental impact. I agree that currently nuclear power appears to be one of the more viable sources of power generation though fossil fuels will still be required in order to construct the plant, mine & process the uranium and so forth. There never seems to be a way to completely wean ourselves off oil. :(

The anti-nuclear hysteria in Germany really took off after the Chernobyl disaster and I believe that Germany will phase out its own nuclear power generation capacity. This idea seems crazy, hypocritical and very shortsighted to me.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/791597.stm

1 - Germany will probably need to import more energy from "lower-cost" type suppliers in Eastern Europe who will no doubt be running nuclear plants. This simply shifts the nuclear "problem" out of Germany to someone else's backyard.

2 - In a world of declining energy resources this decision is shortsighted and may well come back to haunt them at some point. When even oil & gas rich countries like Iran argue that they need nuclear plants to start conserving their fossil fuel resources (and I believe that they have a valid argument despite all the counteraccusations that they are using it as a smokescreen to develop nuclear weapons) it makes no sense to shut down one's own facilities.

3 - From a strategic point of view, outsourcing a significant amount of one's power requirements to other countries is a very risky strategy.

Rehnskiöld
Monday, October 10th, 2005, 04:29 PM
RoyBatty - :fhclap:

Most political action against Nuclear Power seems hypocrit, it's curius how it's most often the environmental buffs who are at the front against nuclear power,very odd since it indeed is the best energy source considering environmental effects and therefore should have the support of greenpeace and the like. This winter will be interesting since the socialists have shut down one of the nuclear plants up here and apparently, should the winter be harsh there could be a lack of energy to warm up the country:icon1: , the politicians really advance naiveness into criminality, the risc of citizens freezing in their homes does not mean anything when they have decided on something.