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Blutwölfin
Thursday, August 4th, 2005, 02:13 PM
Alfred the Great effectively saved Anglo-Saxon England from being overwhelmed by the Danes. Yet Alfred was wise enough to realise that his military successes were only temporary. A more permanent measure of protection was needed against the growing threat of the Danes.

Alfred began a policy encouraging the formation of fortified towns, or burhs, throughout his lands, such that no place in Wessex was more than 20 miles from a town. In exchange for free plots of land within the towns, settlers provided a defense force. The burhs were also encouraged to become centres of commerce and local government. These burhs were located primarily along the coast and the borders of Alfred's lands (see map).

Alfred's son Edward the Elder continued his father's policy of establishing fortified towns, and he and his sister Aethelflaed of Mercia built a new double row of burhs along the old Roman road of Watling Street, which marked the border of the Danelaw as it ran from the Mersey to Essex.

The burhs were remarkable for their time in that they used a regular grid pattern of streets - not unlike the old Roman towns. Indeed, in many cases pre-existing Roman town sites were re-used to create Saxon towns. Why re-use Roman sites? Three main reasons can be found.

First, the Roman towns were sited at key points along the old Roman network of roads. In other words, communication was a key factor in siting Saxon towns. Chester and Gloucester are two examples of towns sited at major road intersections, though they were established by Alfred's successors.

Second, the Roman towns had basic fortifications in place. Walled towns such as Portchester were already defensible. Other Roman towns had earthwork defenses that could easily be repaired and strengthened.

Third, the growth of Christianity influenced the choice of town sites. In areas where the Roman church was strongest (i.e. the south and east), a conscious choice was made to establish sees in metropolitan centres. Contrast this with the Celtic church, which concentrated its efforts on evangelizing in the the countryside.

Other Saxon burhs were established on entirely new sites. In this class of burh we find Wallingford, Wareham, and Wilton, among others. Some, such as Lewes, Lyng, and Lydford, were built on promontories of land, with a simple ditch and bank combination adding to the natural defenses.

In cases where Roman towns were reused to create burhs the Saxons did not necessarily follow the Roman street pattern. Although frequently the main street was reused, as at Chichester and Winchester, the Saxons often built their houses upon the firm foundations of the Roman street, with the new streets running alongside.

Of the burhs that have survived as modern towns, little remains to be seen of the Saxon settlements. In some cases the modern streets follow the Saxon street plan, as at Winchester, Cricklade, Chichester, and Wallingford. Remnants of the defensive ditch and bank can be seen at Wallingford, Wareham, Maaldon, Witham, and Cricklade.


Source (http://www.britainexpress.com/architecture/burhs.htm)

Oddstríðir
Thursday, August 4th, 2005, 03:03 PM
I do not think the salvage of the old Anglo-Saxon nation is of much importance to modern Anglo-Saxons, enfact in my opinion they'd do better with more norse blood :D.

Thruthheim
Friday, October 21st, 2005, 04:45 AM
Hearing that Alfred the Great prevented further Danish influence only saddens me now.

But, on the other hand.. i probably wouldn't exist if he didn't... so :scratch:

With Hindsight though, it's easy to judge and simplify.

Sigel
Friday, October 21st, 2005, 09:34 AM
Hearing that Alfred the Great prevented further Danish influence only saddens me now.

But, on the other hand.. i probably wouldn't exist if he didn't... so :scratch:

With Hindsight though, it's easy to judge and simplify.
I wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for the Norse Vikings. Don’t be saddened. Northern England had a massive Danish and Norse population - called the *ahem* Danelaw!

Look at our dialect:
Ta = Thank you
Bairn = Child
Gate = Street etc. etc.

The very form of modern English grammar owes a lot to Norse. The Germanic base language is Anglo-Saxon modified by Norse. Look at the huge number of place names with Scandinavian origins.
It’s telling that when Earl Asbjorn sailed to the north, after Hastings, to place Denmark’s claim on the English throne, the North rose to support him.

Even the epic Beowulf is set in Denmark, the old homeland of the Angles. Alfred the Great did what he had to and was a leader to be proud of. We owe much of our knowledge of Anglo-Saxon to him.
Look at it this way. The Angles and Jutes came from the Jutland peninsular, the Saxons from Northern Germany.
The Danish Vikings came from the Jutland Peninsular, the Norse Vikings from Norway.

So they all hailed from the “core Germanic homeland area”. Viking settlement just consolidated Germanic blood on this island, but was in no way superior or inferior to Angle or Saxon.

Thruthheim
Friday, October 21st, 2005, 02:20 PM
I wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for the Norse Vikings. Don’t be saddened. Northern England had a massive Danish and Norse population - called the *ahem* Danelaw!

Look at our dialect:
Ta = Thank you
Bairn = Child
Gate = Street etc. etc.

The very form of modern English grammar owes a lot to Norse. The Germanic base language is Anglo-Saxon modified by Norse. Look at the huge number of place names with Scandinavian origins.
It’s telling that when Earl Asbjorn sailed to the north, after Hastings, to place Denmark’s claim on the English throne, the North rose to support him.

Even the epic Beowulf is set in Denmark, the old homeland of the Angles. Alfred the Great did what he had to and was a leader to be proud of. We owe much of our knowledge of Anglo-Saxon to him.
Look at it this way. The Angles and Jutes came from the Jutland peninsular, the Saxons from Northern Germany.
The Danish Vikings came from the Jutland Peninsular, the Norse Vikings from Norway.

So they all hailed from the “core Germanic homeland area”. Viking settlement just consolidated Germanic blood on this island, but was in no was superior or inferior to Angle or Saxon.

Yes very true Sigel ..
I see no superiority in Norse to AS, or vice-verser, but i think if the Norse influence was alittle stronger, it may have made our ties with Scandinavia all that more stronger.

But yes, we are like The Germanic All Stars :D

Rodskarl Dubhgall
Monday, April 23rd, 2018, 06:53 AM
I don't want to take sides between Denmark and Wessex. Imagine if the uniting aspects of the Angles worked between Denmark and Saxony in Europe as they have done for England in Britain. What would be England's Hedeby? London?