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Blutwölfin
Tuesday, July 26th, 2005, 09:54 PM
This looks like an interesting read, although I haven't got through the whole text yet.

http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/Race_Evolution_Behavior.pdf

beowulf wodenson
Saturday, July 30th, 2005, 12:49 AM
It's a good read indeed;I've read most of it. Naturally the author has been roundly assailed by the usual suspects for publishing anything that affirms racial reality.

Peeps
Saturday, July 30th, 2005, 10:56 PM
http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/JP_Rushton/Race.htm

Blutwölfin
Thursday, September 29th, 2005, 12:20 AM
A Life History Perspective
Professor J. Philippe Rushton
University of Western Ontario

Download as .PDF file (http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/Race_Evolution_Behavior.pdf)

Agrippa
Thursday, September 29th, 2005, 02:06 AM
Nice read though he made some mistakes. Explanation of r- and K-selection and explanation of the differences in brain size and intelligence mainly by r-/K-selection, both rather suboptimal.

lei.talk
Thursday, September 29th, 2005, 02:14 AM
before i read rushton's book (http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/Race_Evolution_Behavior.pdf),
may i have your corrections (http://www.forums.skadi.net/showpost.php?p=122605&postcount=2)
to integrate in to my reading?

Agrippa
Thursday, September 29th, 2005, 02:35 AM
He is on the right track with the r-/K-selection though, but finally group selection and adaptation to new environments, different from the original tropical-subtropical archaic sapiens habitat was crucial.

I just repost what I wrote on Skadi to the question "Which factors do you think have made Eurasians more intellectually advanced?"
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=39308

The harsh and instable climate, the need for planning especially through the winter. Its well known that in general, both for Europids and progressive Mongolids of the Northern regions life was different, they had to plan, they lived in bigger groups, hunted in complex organised units, had an improved social system, different kind of sexual selection because both the male and the female had to rely much more on each other and a male could take every female, but he thought twice whether it was worth the investment, because it could be his only chance, again different from certain tropical regions.

Furthermore the Mongolids themselves had the advantage of producing a skin type which was versatile, if you compare the variation of Europid skin in the same climatic regions with that of Mongolids, you will be impressed by the more stable Mongolid condition. I dont want to explain the whole Mongolid skin structure now, but I can just say it seems to be, like the other features, an adaptation to the UV-rich open regions of the Cold and brought up a type which could survive both in rather UV-poor and rich areas easier without extreme variation (like Europids).

Other features of the Mongolid type are the social adaptation, lower level of individual aggression and less extreme masculine tendencies. (Negrids are in fact the opposite). They are a very frugal, partly simple type which can stand suffering better, especially in social unity if its about the typical Mongolid variant. Of course culture evolved in the same direction because of the same reasons and needs.
I think the basic tendencies came up during the LGM in which the former bigger groups melted down in the worst time to small groups which had to fully cooperate, stand suffering and acting planned to survive and reproduce again. After this type evolved, and because parts of East Asia were still quite primitive, this specialised groups almost explode and pushed others away, next wave followed and pushed the last, which ...
Like the big ancient migration of the Germanic people, one pushed the other, just with the difference that this people had a bigger impact genetically, because the density was low in the LGM. After that they had already the North of Asia and Northern China, but still not the whole region. That came with rice expansion, the Neolithic spread of this type...and this time the same thing happened as before, just with much more people and with other cultural features.
We can differ two types of basic Mongolids, the Arctic (Tungid and related) and the Sinid (and related) with the later having an influence of the South from early on, but during the selection period the primitive features were mostly bred away and finally produced an even more progressive type.

Aesthetic selection is not inevitably correlated with psychological improvements, especially not with intelligence, but more with hormonal status and personality.
The intelligence selection was independently stronger in the temperate and cold climate and bigger social units (in the tropics were even at the time of H-G the groups smaller) for which less aggressive intragroup behaviour but the ability to use disciplined aggression in the intergroup selection was crucial.

So, there could be primitive looking groups on this planet which are more intelligent, but as things are, that is not the case because the evolution which lead to new physical adaption away from the tropical types was crucial for the higher intelligence and social more adapted behaviour too.

Furthermore a good physical shape and condition, both efficiency and attractiveness are important features on their own. You say that are only attractive features, but thats not true, they go deeper and are on-line with the past evolvement of humanity. I made other threads and posts about that topic, especially about skull hole (foramen magnum) position-orthognathy-spine evolution...
Furthermore you can have mixed status, f.e. certain progressive features combined with primitive (most obvious full lips with prognathy).

The correlation between general attractiveness and average higher intelligence is proven and whats proven too is that chances are higher that partner selection leads to the combination of attractiveness and intelligence.

F.e. under extreme selection in a new environment, what kind of women will the more intelligent and stronger male take? The ugly, primitive and less healthy looking? Especially if he must do more for her, because in the tropics the women can go on and work for their own nutrition and probably the children too, the male must not be always there or successful. Especially during the last LGM the males had oftentimes the full responsibility to care for the women and children nutrition - they must be successful and intelligent hunters and attack others for, or defend their own winter ressources.
Under the tropical conditions males didnt selected so much and females neither, they both looked just to reproduce and that the body is strong and healthy, the character of the person, the sympathy in the face was probably less important because investment and risk was lower too.
A male during the LGM might have been investing all he had of energy in just 4 children of one or two women, if they were treacherous or unhealthy, had no good genes themselves his life was lost. Especially if he went on his long hunting work he had to rely on the ability and fidelity of the woman.
Most small tropical hunters went with their women or didnt used such a great radius as the Northern H-G groups with their bigger social systems in which single male aggression without discipline couldnt be tolerated.
To think ahead, especially if its about planning a family and surviving the winter was crucial.

Goes in a similar direction:
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=38063
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=11152
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=13074
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=12843

lei.talk
Thursday, September 29th, 2005, 03:38 AM
thank you!

you have written an encyclopedia
over there.

at one point,
i found my self
backing out of eight nested-links
(all written by you).

do you have copies of all that
for sale or down-load?

it had best include a glossary.
there were, at least, a dozen words
that i could not find
in any on-line dictionary.

Nordgau
Thursday, September 29th, 2005, 05:15 AM
do you have copies of all that
for sale or down-load?


Yeah, I also look forward to the complete edition of the collected works of Agrippa. My eyes use to get hurt from all that screen-reading. :P

“An aggregation of racism. It is alarming that such kind of thinking is still vital today.”—David Silberstein, The New York Review of Books.

:D

DreamWalker
Thursday, September 29th, 2005, 06:15 AM
thank you!
it had best include a glossary.
there were, at least, a dozen words
that i could not find
in any on-line dictionary.
Ha ha, look who is complaining, my dictionary is so big it is 2 volumes, and I could not find numerous words that you have used.:icon12: ;)