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Vanir
Saturday, May 28th, 2005, 09:25 PM
Copied from another forum...
I assume that not all of the points are correct (correct them at your leisure) a little Anglo-centric (not that there's anything wrong with that :D)and scare-mongerish, but an interesting read nonetheless..


1. The phrase European Economic Community was invented by Nazi Hermann Goerring. The phrase United States of Europe was invented by Adolf Hitler.

2. Not one citizen in any of the 15 nations in the E.U. has ever been asked if they wanted to join the E.U.

3. Every English taxpayer pays 450 a year for membership of the E.U. For every 1 England receives from the E.U. the English taxpayer must hand over 4.15 to the E.U.

4. Joining the euro will cost every Englishman, Englishwoman and English child 650 in hard cash.

5. Corrupt E.U. staff are immune from prosecution.

6. Fraud costs the E.U. between 4 and 8 billion a year.

7. The E.U. is planning a chemical testing programme which will involve pointlessly torturing and killing 50 million animals. The programme will be partly paid for with money contributed by English taxpayers. )

8. More than half of the world's most useful inventions since 1945 were made by Englishmen and Englishwomen.

9. The European Union will shortly ban the sale of effective vitamin therapies (much to the delight and profit of large drug companies).

10. The E.U. now takes precedence over the Queen of England and the Government is rewriting oaths of allegiance. Policemen, members of the armed forces and civil servants will swear oaths of allegiance to the E.U.

11. The E.U. wants to ban political parties which disapprove of the E.U.

12. The Labour Government is trying to abolish trial by jury in England. They are doing this because the E.U. has told them they must.

13. Members of Europol (Europe's new official police force) are armed and `immune from the law'.

14. The E.U. spends 600 million a year telling English university students the value of England being part of the E.U.

15. The E.U. banned firemen's' poles in English fire stations because bureaucrats in Brussels were worried that firemen might hurt themselves. The bureaucrats also felt that the poles might pose a hazard to blind and disabled firemen.

16. The Labour Government's Regional Assemblies will mean the end of England.

17. As a result of E.U. policies the average English family has to pay an extra 1,000 a year on food.

18. The E.U. keeps files on people who might one day be suspected of doing something contrary to E.U. law. The E.U. keeps at least 56 different types of information about each suspect (including racial origins, religion and political affiliations). If you're reading this the chances are that Big Brother is watching you.

19. England has over 600 billion invested in pension savings - and has unfunded pension liabilities of 4,000 per head. But if England joins the euro English pension debts will rise to 30,000 a head. If we join the E.U. our pension savings will be handed over to the E.U. and shared out among E.U. countries whose citizens have not saved enough. England will have to take on part of the E.U.'s 1,200 billion pension debt. Your pension will be in peril.

20. England's oil reserves are worth over 250 billion. The E.U. now regards those reserves as a `shared E.U. resource'.

21. The Government has handed England's 32 billion worth of gold and dollar reserves over to the E.U.

22. The number of laws created by the E.U.'s bureaucrats in Brussels far exceeds the number of laws passed by England's parliament in its first 700 years.

23. Duty free sales were abolished to make the E.U. look like one big country.

24. The European Court of Justice now has the authority to overturn laws made by the English parliament, and verdicts delivered by English courts. European courts and laws now take precedence over English courts and laws.

25. If the E.U. has its way (and it will) the England cricket, football and rugby teams will disappear.

26. The European Commission President wants to create an inner core of `fewer than 10' unelected, unaccountable vice presidents who will run the new Eurostate.

27. The E.U. spends over 1 billion a year supporting the production of poor quality tobacco - which is too poisonous for sale in the E.U. but which must be `dumped' on undeveloped countries. Many Greek, Spanish and French farmers exist on these tobacco grants.

28. The new E.U. army of 60,000 soldiers will soon replace the English army. The English army (and its traditions) will disappear.

29. Every new E.U. law, directive and regulation must be translated into each of 11 official E.U. languages. By the year 2004 the E.U. will have 21 official languages and the E.U. will have to find tens of thousands of skilled and honest interpreters able to translate Estonian into Polish, Czech into Maltese, Dutch into Hungarian etc etc. There will be 420 possible interpreting combinations. The E.U. will become even more unwieldy than it already is.

30. It will soon be illegal for England to withdraw from the E.U. If we join the euro it will be impossible to leave.

RedJack
Saturday, May 28th, 2005, 09:39 PM
I shouldn't have read this, now I will spend the rest of the day thinking bad thoughts. :viking4:

Nordgau
Saturday, May 28th, 2005, 09:51 PM
The phrase United States of Europe was invented by Adolf Hitler.

I don't know if Hitler ever used that formula in his project of a European New Order (I can't remember that I read it anywhere by him), but the phrase "United States of Europe" (after the pattern of the name of the U.S.A.) is in every case older and was used already in the 19th century as a consequence of the zeitgeist of the "Ideas of 1789" for liberal visions of international fraternity. An early (the earliest?) example is Jakob Siebenpfeiffer's demand for the "United States of Europe" at the Hambach Fiest of 1832.

Karl Kautsky used the phrase in 1911, Lenin in 1915, Coudenhove-Kalergi in the foundation manifesto of the Pan-Europe movement in 1922, and Trotsky used it in 1923. I highly doubt that Hitler used it somewhere, since it is much connected with left and liberal-democratic internationalism and pacifism.

Vanir
Saturday, May 28th, 2005, 09:57 PM
I don't know if Hitler ever used that formula in his project of a European New Order (I can't remember that I read it anywhere by him), but the phrase "United States of Europe" (after the pattern of the name of the U.S.A.) is in every case older and was used already in the 19th century as a consequence of the zeitgeist of the "Ideas of 1789" for liberal visions of international fraternity. An early (the earliest?) example is Jakob Siebenpfeiffer's demand for the "United States of Europe" at the Hambach Fiest of 1832.

Karl Kautsky used the phrase in 1911, Lenin in 1915, Coudenhove-Kalergi in the foundation manifesto of the Pan-Europe movement in 1922, and Trotsky used it in 1923. I highly doubt that Hitler used it somewhere, since it is much connected with left and liberal-democratic internationalism and pacifism.

That's kinda what I meant with the scaremongerish quip, I think whoever wrote the list was just playing upon the average person's association of "Hitler = bad" which is not something I personally agree with.

Just take the points for what they're worth...

BritishLad
Wednesday, August 4th, 2010, 08:56 PM
28-30 reasons why we should leave now!

Seriously, how many British people wanted to join the EU and how many want to pull out?

EU wants to be abolish trial by Jury? :-O wtf? Wouldn't that be a step-down for human rights?

EU is quite frankly a BS excuse for a mono-state of Europe. And our politicians are keeping us in the EU against the majority of our wishes.

:thumbdown EU, congrats, you've just lost my support.