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tuddorsped
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 02:13 PM
Here's the pictures of REAL Vasiliy Zaitsev:

http://216.198.255.120/russianpart/zaitsevsn.jpg

http://www.paginaplastico.com/Zaitsev.jpg

...:rolleyes:

Zaitsev was good, but not as good as one of your illustrious compatriots. (http://www.kevos4.com/Simo_Hayha.htm)

Fox
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 04:06 PM
Zaitsev was good, but not as good as one of your illustrious compatriots. (http://www.kevos4.com/Simo_Hayha.htm)
God I love Finns :)

Death and the Sun
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 04:20 PM
Anecdote: Simo "White Death" Häyhä was a tiny fellow: not much taller than the rifle he used to snipe the Soviets with.

http://guns.connect.fi/gow/haykarjp.jpg

Lissu
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 04:54 PM
Zaitsev was good, but not as good as one of your illustrious compatriots. (http://www.kevos4.com/Simo_Hayha.htm)At least Häyhä, even if being a tiny fellow, was Europid, unlike Zaitsev...

tuddorsped
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 05:11 PM
At least Häyhä, even if being a tiny fellow, was Europid, unlike Zaitsev...

He looks quintessentially Ladogan to me. Sorry, but I'd have to accept him as a 'Europid'. Nordid, possibly not, but Europid definitely. (Personally, I'm more suspicious of the Dinaric's claims to being 'Europids'.).

http://www.angeltowns.com/members/racialreal/sub_ladogan.jpg

Lissu
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 05:19 PM
He looks quintessentially Ladogan to me. Sorry, but I'd have to accept him as a 'Europid'. Nordid, possibly not, but Europid definitely. (Personally, I'm more suspicious of the Dinaric's claims to being 'Europids'.).

http://www.angeltowns.com/members/racialreal/sub_ladogan.jpgThe picture you posted, doesn't show.

I really doubt there is such thing as "Ladogan".

It is also a disgrace that a fine creature like Jude Law made the role of Zaitsev. But - nothing is holy to Hollywood...

Death and the Sun
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 05:26 PM
At least Häyhä, even if being a tiny fellow, was Europid, unlike Zaitsev...

When I made my comment about Häyhä being short, I meant to point out that his case shows that the Hollywood image of war heroes always musclebound Ramboes is a lie. In fact, I'm sure his small stature helped him a lot.

I have this funny image in my head of Väinö Myllyrinne charging Soviet lines like Treebeard into Isengard, with Häyhä sitting on his shoulder picking off enemies that are further away. :)

Lissu
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 06:35 PM
When I made my comment about Häyhä being short, I meant to point out that his case shows that the Hollywood image of war heroes always musclebound Ramboes is a lie. In fact, I'm sure his small stature helped him a lot.

I have this funny image in my head of Väinö Myllyrinne charging Soviet lines like Treebeard into Isengard, with Häyhä sitting on his shoulder picking off enemies that are further away. :)Indeed, his small size was an advantage, as snipers have to remain unnoticeable, and the weather required wearing lots of warm clothes. Especially being a sniper must have been an extremely cold thing to do, while staying still without moving for many hours...

His career as a sniper lasted almost to the end of Winter War, until he got shot with an explosive bullet in his face. Luckily he stayed alive, but as shown in the picture you posted, his face is disfigured.

anonymaus
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 06:46 PM
until he got shot with an explosive bullet in his face. Luckily he stayed alive, but as shown in the picture you posted, his face is disfigured.

That is one tough son of a... :O

I think I'll read some more about this character ;)

tuddorsped
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 06:54 PM
Indeed, his small size was an advantage, as snipers have to remain unnoticeable, and the weather required wearing lots of warm clothes. Especially being a sniper must have been an extremely cold thing to do, while staying still without moving for many hours...

His career as a sniper lasted almost to the end of Winter War, until he got shot with an explosive bullet in his face. Luckily he stayed alive, but as shown in the picture you posted, his face is disfigured.

There was a famous dimunitive sniper in the Falkland's War called 'The Bush'. Nobody would be even aware of him until a shot rang out, some mad laughter was heard, and this bush suddenly got up and moved stealthily across the battlefield.

Lissu
Thursday, April 28th, 2005, 09:42 AM
That is one tough son of a... :O

I think I'll read some more about this character ;)He was one lucky b****** indeed. The bullet was shot in couple of metres distance straight below his nose. Using explosive bullets was forbidden by international laws, but Russians didn't care about that. But if it was a normal bullet, it would have gone straight into his brains, killing him instantly. Instead, it changed its course in his mouth and came out of his cheek, tearing nearly half of his face off. Horrible wound, but the plastic surgery of the time managed to fix his face quite well after all (if I remember right, plastic surgery was developed during WW1 to fix horrible wounds like this - one of the many positive things something as horrible as war has given to us...).

Häyhä died in 2002, aged 96. Hope he lived a good life... :)

As for his shooting skills, well, he was in the class of his own. He used only iron sight, while most known snipers had telescopes. Telescopes have their disadvantages, like they expose the location of the sniper much easier because of the reflection from the lense, and sniper also have to keep his head few cm's higher. That few cm can be deadly...

Lissu
Thursday, April 28th, 2005, 10:08 AM
This thread has been splitted from here (http://www.forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=8011). :)

Arcturus
Thursday, April 28th, 2005, 10:13 AM
Immediately I go off-topic... *sigh*

Just wanted to recommend a book by James Thayer entitled White Star. It all boils down to a sniper-showdown, and there are lots of facts about the art of sniping aswell. Great read too! :book2:

Death and the Sun
Thursday, April 28th, 2005, 04:02 PM
There was a famous dimunitive sniper in the Falkland's War called 'The Bush'. Nobody would be even aware of him until a shot rang out, some mad laughter was heard, and this bush suddenly got up and moved stealthily across the battlefield.

Tried to Google for information on this character, but all I found was a ton of links on a certain functionally illiterate politician from Texas.

Which side was this "Bush" fighting on?