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Death and the Sun
Thursday, April 7th, 2005, 10:13 PM
All right, the long awaited Wicker Man thread is finally here!

I recently saw this classic on a big screen for the first time. Unfortunately it was one of the shorter, more heavily edited versions. :frown:

What to say about this masterpiece that hasn't been said already? Great script, great soundtrack, great acting. Considering that the director and the producer wrote the script in a weekend, and did not remember writing it until later later, they did a pretty fine job, if you ask me. :D

I've often wondered how Presbyterians and other Christians react to this film. After all, Sgt. Howie's Christian faith is not degraded, and he does what any good Christian is expected to do: die a martyr's death.

Another thing I would like to discuss is: how accurately are all the pagan rites portrayed in the film? Does anyone have any insight into this matter?

Lord Summerisle is definitely among Christopher Lee's greatest roles, along with Dracula and Saruman.

And of course, no red-blooded Northern male can remain indifferent to Britt Ekland's nude scenes.

The region 2 DVD release contains both the original theatrical version and a "director's cut", by the way.

On a more alarming note: well, I suppose a remake is only a matter of time, but the possibility that Nicholas Cage will star is more than I think I wil be able to tolerate. :kaioken1:

http://www.steve-p.org/wm/crosss.jpg

http://www.steve-p.org/wm/willsts.jpg

http://metamedia.stanford.edu/imagebin/Lee-Wicker-Man.jpg

http://www.the-wicker-man.co.uk/wickerman.jpg

Death and the Sun
Friday, April 22nd, 2005, 07:06 PM
Bumpski!

Surely SOMEONE has a comment on this classic of classics ?!?

Mistress Klaus
Friday, April 22nd, 2005, 07:42 PM
I love the movie & have it on video.

perkele14
Friday, April 22nd, 2005, 08:25 PM
I love the movie & have it on video.
The Celtic fire festival & the burning of the giant human effigy (with live humans & animals) is for the breaking of the new season of prosperity and abundant crops.

Off-topic: NIce new, "Ilsa":ish avatar you´ve got there :) The whip is missing though :confused:

Death and the Sun
Friday, April 22nd, 2005, 08:32 PM
Anyone up for starting an "Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS" -thread??

Death and the Sun
Friday, April 22nd, 2005, 08:36 PM
Seriously off-topic:

The kids these days are so spoiled. Why didn't I have one of these when I was eight years old:

http://www.toybox2.fsnet.co.uk/images/ilsa1.jpg

perkele14
Friday, April 22nd, 2005, 09:05 PM
Damn! It was Teela and Leia when I grew up :mad:

Certainely not this:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6305808120.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

The youth of today have too much of everything it seems...

Death and the Sun
Monday, April 25th, 2005, 08:32 PM
"The Wicker Man" now has a discussion forum (http://wickerman.8.forumer.com/index.php) devoted to it.

Bryttisc Scildfreca
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 03:54 PM
...Another thing I would like to discuss is: how accurately are all the pagan rites portrayed in the film? Does anyone have any insight into this matter?
...
And of course, no red-blooded Northern male can remain indifferent to Britt Nielsen's nude scenes.
...
On a more alarming note: well, I suppose a remake is only a matter of time, but the possibility that Nicholas Cage will star is more than I think I wil be able to tolerate. :kaioken1:
I have this film on DVD and I watched it when I was very young.

As far as I know there is no inaccuracy regarding the culture/traditions/pagan rites portrayed within the film. Older Britons will know these things from their youth, but I'm sure modern people won't. When I was a young child back in the 70s I distinctly remember dancing around the maypole on more than one occasion. It is widely understood that people would 'couple' on the stone circles and probably still do :P I have read that the invading Romans actually used this to their advantage, attacking the Celts whilst otherwise engaged.

It was Britt Ekland who played the part of the landlord's daughter; a very fine lass. She also appeared in another very excellent film from the 70s called Endless Night.

If somebody attempts to remake this film it will be a disaster. To start with the multi-cult brigade will add some black faces... :rolleyes:

I also have the soundtrack, and my favourite tracks are Gently Johnny, The Tinker of Rye (Christopher Lee sings this live in a studio on the DVD - brilliant), Willow's Song ;), Sumer is A-Cumen In and Opening Music (at the start of the film where the plane takes off and the bagpipes start-up.

On Stormfront this film is a popular subject and I have discussed it on many occasions. There is in fact a group of islands off of the west coast of Scotland called the Summerisles - http://www.summer-isles.com/

http://www.summer-isles.com/images/02_longer.jpg

http://www.summer-isles.com/images/landgael2004stamps.jpg

:animal-sm :goat2: :kaioken1: <-- Very appropriate smilies :D

Death and the Sun
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 04:10 PM
As far as I know there is no inaccuracy regarding the culture/traditions/pagan rites portrayed within the film. Older Britons will know these things from their youth, but I'm sure modern people won't. When I was a young child back in the 70s I distinctly remember dancing around the maypole on more than one occasion. It is widely understood that people would 'couple' on the stone circles and probably still do :p I have read that the invading Romans actually used this to their advantage, attacking the Celts whilst otherwise engaged.



Fascinating, thank you for the input. Let's hope that there will be a revival of some kind of these fine traditions before it is too late.

Actually over here in Finland we have the same thing happening: our grandparents can still remember some heathen customs and traditions that in their yourh were commonplace, but unknown among younger people today.

We have lost much, and are still losing.


It was Britt Ekland who played the part of the landlord's daughter; a very fine lass. She also appeared in another very excellent film from the 70s called Endless Night.

Aaaargh... what an idiotic mistake. :doh00000:

Fixed it now, though. Yes, I did know her real name, but somehow ended up getting it wrong. I've never heard of "Endless Night", I'll look for it on imdb.


If somebody attempts to remake this film it will be a disaster. To start with the multi-cult brigade will add some black faces... :rolleyes:

That does seem to be the present trend in films, especially in remakes of classics. Perhaps they could set the remake in the Burning Man festival in Nevada?

Erlingr Hárbarđarson
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 04:26 PM
Damn! It was Teela and Leia when I grew up :mad:

Certainely not this:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6305808120.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

The youth of today have too much of everything it seems...


She can put me in a gas-chamber any day.


:D

Bryttisc Scildfreca
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 05:52 PM
Fascinating, thank you for the input. Let's hope that there will be a revival of some kind of these fine traditions before it is too late.

Actually over here in Finland we have the same thing happening: our grandparents can still remember some heathen customs and traditions that in their yourh were commonplace, but unknown among younger people today.

We have lost much, and are still losing.
...
That does seem to be the present trend in films, especially in remakes of classics. Perhaps they could set the remake in the Burning Man festival in Nevada?
We're all suffering the loss of our cultures and traditions; we have had to forfeit them in order to celebrate other people's. Consumerism too has shapen people into empty zombies more interested in the latest mobile phone ring-tones. In fact I doubt whether modern youth even know what culture means!

A film has just been released called a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams (an Englishman). A character from the original early 80s series who was an Englishman with blue eyes has been replaced by a negro.

Regarding the Wicker Man, there is a song used in the film called 'Sumer is Icumen in' (they sing it around the Wicker Man). If you are not English then you are unlikely to realise that this is from the 1200s and originally in Middle English:-

http://www.soton.ac.uk/~wpwt/images/harl978clip.jpg

Sumer is icumen in, [Summer has arrived]
Lhude sing, cuccu; [Sing loudly, cuckoo!]
Groweth sed [The seed is growing]
and bloweth med, [And the meadow is blooming]
And springth the wde nu; [And the wood is coming into leaf now]
Sing, cuccu! [Sing, cuckoo!]
Awe bleteth after lomb, [The ewe is bleating after her lamb]
Lhouth after calue cu; [The cow is lowing after her calf]
Bulluc sterteth, [The bullock is prancing]
Bucke uerteth, [The billy-goat farting]
Murie sing, cuccu! [Sing merrily, cuckoo!]
Cuccu, cuccu, [Cuckoo, cuckoo]
Wel singes thu, cuccu; [You sing well, cuckoo]
...
http://www.soton.ac.uk/~wpwt/harl978/sumertxt.htm

Arcturus
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 05:59 PM
Hee hee... Ford Prefect... :rotfl:

Personally I would have gone with something like Dodge Challenger, Plymouth Fury or if it has to be Ford, Toronado. :redface:

But yes, no suprise... just as every modern film MUSt have a strong female warrior/leader, it must have a token negro.

ARGH, don't talk about OE, Getting through The Wanderer, Beowulf, Dream of the Rood etc is a PAIN!!!!!!!

Bryttisc Scildfreca
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 07:03 PM
Hee hee... Ford Prefect... :rotfl:
Exactly :negroid: :rolleyes:

Arcturus
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 07:15 PM
Exactly :negroid: :rolleyes:
I was right? Wow! :thumbs: And yet..... *sigh* :bloed_2: :mad:

Death and the Sun
Wednesday, April 27th, 2005, 10:55 PM
Regarding the Wicker Man, there is a song used in the film called 'Sumer is Icumen in' (they sing it around the Wicker Man). If you are not English then you are unlikely to realise that this is from the 1200s and originally in Middle English:-

http://www.soton.ac.uk/~wpwt/images/harl978clip.jpg

Sumer is icumen in, [Summer has arrived]
Lhude sing, cuccu; [Sing loudly, cuckoo!]
Groweth sed [The seed is growing]
and bloweth med, [And the meadow is blooming]
And springth the wde nu; [And the wood is coming into leaf now]
Sing, cuccu! [Sing, cuckoo!]
Awe bleteth after lomb, [The ewe is bleating after her lamb]
Lhouth after calue cu; [The cow is lowing after her calf]
Bulluc sterteth, [The bullock is prancing]
Bucke uerteth, [The billy-goat farting]
Murie sing, cuccu! [Sing merrily, cuckoo!]
Cuccu, cuccu, [Cuckoo, cuckoo]
Wel singes thu, cuccu; [You sing well, cuckoo]
...
http://www.soton.ac.uk/~wpwt/harl978/sumertxt.htm

Actually, yes I am familiar with that song. :)

Lovely words. :D