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Death and the Sun
Tuesday, March 29th, 2005, 12:18 PM
Those tNP'ers who also frequent Stormfront have seen this already, I'm sure.

http://home.ddc.net/ygg/cwar/movlst.htm

Ygg is the one who originally came up with the idea of collecting a pro-White film database, in order to isolate ourselves from mainstream, PC popular culture.

Any comments on the list? What would you add, and what do you think does not belong there?

I'll be discussing some of the movies on the list in more detail later.

Ygg's homepage: http://home.ddc.net/ygg/

Death and the Sun
Tuesday, March 29th, 2005, 03:09 PM
Of course, since Ygg is American, the most obvious flaw in his list is the absence of many classic European films.

Nevertheless, an important and useful resource.

Heirs To Perdition
Thursday, April 14th, 2005, 03:39 PM
Wouldn't the Kubrick films be out of place?

Death and the Sun
Thursday, April 14th, 2005, 10:16 PM
Wouldn't the Kubrick films be out of place?

Why is that?

The Horned God
Thursday, April 14th, 2005, 11:04 PM
Why is that?

I am fairly certain that Heirs considers Kubrick films to be unsuitable because Kubric is jewish, it is something which has occured to me also, I have been looking out for anti-white subtexts in his work but I haven't found any. Films are generally created by a team of people, and the sensiblity which pervades Kubric films is not one which is anti-white, quite the opposite in fact.They are as much a product of the period in which they were made as they are of Kubric himself, not to mention all the scripwriters and special-effects artists he colaborated with.
In my opinion each film should be treated like a text and judged on it's own merits, under those criteria Kubric films generally get the green light.

tuddorsped
Sunday, April 24th, 2005, 05:14 PM
Personally I think the only measure of a film's worth should be it's purely artistic/theatrical achievements and it's overall cinematic competence. I couldn't give a damn if a film has a 'positive pro-white message' if it also happens to be made by cinematographic simpletons and has limited artistic or stylistic merits. Using a 35 mm camera takes skill and imagination and doesn't lend itself easily to the crude posturing of ignorant polemicists.

I thought we were in the business of preserving white civilisation not creating some pale and backward imitation of it, driven by prudish 'minority' thinking and stupid inferiority complexes.

Most modern American cinema is uninspiring, simplistic rubbish propelled by rampant commercialism. It is this fact alone that disturbs me more than the possible casting of idiot ethnic actors in lead roles or crude multi-culti sloganeering. Regardless of political content, it is the fundamental aesthetics of Hollywood cinema that make it worthless trash.

I'm certainly not going to waste valuable time discussing whether my favourite film is culturally authentic or invalid because the production company may have employed some jewish caterers or a supporting actor once gave some money to an anti-racist foundation. Such ridiculous sectarian thinking makes us sound like whining low class immigrants with chips on our shoulders.

Since when did an intelligent well-crafted movie suddenly cease to be a 'good' movie?

Vanir
Sunday, April 24th, 2005, 05:32 PM
Just nitpicking, but I'd take issue with point #8....


8. Negative portrayals of Christianity or the Catholic Church (The Blues Brothers).
I'd like nothing more than to see the toxic hebrew meme scoured from Europe personally. A movie indoctrinating people to positive associations with the "alien to Europe" hebrew christianity is no movie that I feel is healthy to watch.
http://www.forums.skadi.net/images/icons/icon13.gif to the Semite God of the Gaps...

Death and the Sun
Monday, April 25th, 2005, 09:11 PM
Good point, SURT.

I do not agree with the list 100% myself and I welcome debate on the films on it or the criteria for inclusion.

Náttfari
Monday, May 9th, 2005, 04:09 PM
Although there are many good films on that list, it lacks alot, due to the fact that it is put together by a middle-aged, Christian American.

jcs
Monday, May 9th, 2005, 09:35 PM
Personally I think the only measure of a film's worth should be it's purely artistic/theatrical achievements and it's overall cinematic competence. I couldn't give a damn if a film has a 'positive pro-white message' if it also happens to be made by cinematographic simpletons and has limited artistic or stylistic merits. Using a 35 mm camera takes skill and imagination and doesn't lend itself easily to the crude posturing of ignorant polemicists. I think the value of the aesthetic elements of film is to be found in the ability of the cinematography to capture meaning. It takes a decent amount of skill to take a camera and shoot a scene in which you balance the light so as to create good contrast, position the camera in a way such that you place the viewer in an interesting perspective, and capture motion innovatively and beautifully; but it takes much more ability to capture emotion. And when you use the aesthetic and the readily apparent feeling to convey something of perennial depth,--that is art.

Of course, it takes an incredible amount of aesthetic understanding and talent to create such art, but film is not artistic unless it manages to show us something with true meaning.

Death and the Sun
Monday, May 9th, 2005, 09:47 PM
Although there are many good films on that list, it lacks alot, due to the fact that it is put together by a middle-aged, Christian American.

You are absolutely correct and I'm aware of this problem as well. Nevertheless, I think it is a good effort on his part.

Náttfari, I've heard of an Icelandic film called "Raven" something, which deals with a young Viking who has wowen to kill a man who murdered his family. Does this sound familiar in any way at all?

If it does, I'd be interested in your (or some other Icelander's) comments on it. We need more discussion on non-American films here.

Náttfari
Tuesday, May 10th, 2005, 01:43 AM
Hrafninn flŭgur? The Raven Flies?

Death and the Sun
Tuesday, May 10th, 2005, 01:45 AM
That's probably the one.

Náttfari
Tuesday, May 10th, 2005, 02:07 AM
Yes. I have not seen it but I really should soon.

DreamWalker
Tuesday, May 10th, 2005, 03:08 AM
Of course, since Ygg is American, the most obvious flaw in his list is the absence of many classic European films.

Nevertheless, an important and useful resource.

He has a whole section entitled Foreign Art Films, and asks for more, send him your favorites for inclusion :)

Death and the Sun
Tuesday, May 10th, 2005, 06:04 AM
Actually there's a thread on Stormfront that's been running for almost a year now that deals with new suggestions to the list. It gets updated now and then, I think.