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Gladstone
Friday, January 16th, 2004, 06:03 PM
This is a map of the isles that shows the extent of ethnic cleansing and displacement of the natives of those lands that has taken place the last approximately 50 years (prior to 50 years ago there would have been no blue on this map). The darker the blue the higher the number of colonists and settlers to have moved in and inversely the higher the number of native Englishmen, Welsh, Scots, and Irish to have been cleansed and or displaced from their ancestral homelands (note: the media euphamistically refers to these colonists and settlers as "asylum seekers", "economic migrants", "immigrants", etc., and the ethnic cleansing and displacement of the natives is euphamistcally referred to as "enrichment" and "diversity" to be "celebrated", however, irregardless of skin color and excuse, a settler is a settler, a colonist a colonist). In the past the excuse for colonization was "manifest destiny" or "the white man's burden"; now it is "multi-culturalism". And too remember when you read the projections that natives in the isles "will be a minority by 2100" what they are really saying is that over half of the natives percentage wise of those nations will have been ethnically cleansed from their ancestral homeland.

No matter tho how it is sugarcoated nothing excuses it, and no matter what euphamism is used, an invasion is an invasion!

Source http://www.statistics.gov.uk/focuson/ethnicity/


http://www.statistics.gov.uk/images/charts/457a.gif

Milesian
Friday, January 16th, 2004, 06:09 PM
Wow! Look at the immigrants in Shetland!
Which does beg the question....Who the hell would want to emigrate to Shetland?! LOL!!! :D :P

Gladstone
Friday, January 16th, 2004, 06:41 PM
Thought I might throw this article in from The Guardian entitled The Last Days Of A White World

The cheek of these people (non-Europeons) is amazing!

"Yasmin Alibhai-Brown of the Foreign Policy Centre, who arrived in London from Uganda in 1972, said such fears are basically racist: 'Only white people worry about this'."

I somehow think she would feel different about the matter if Uganda was at the moment being colonized by Chinese and black Ugandans were projected to be the minority of Uganda by 2100. Then a white wag could pronounce at hearing black Ugandan concerns that those fears were basically racist and that "Only black people worry about this". Not only would that be ridiculous to say that would not be a white persons place to comment as it is not her place as a black person to comment on our situation. One would think the formerly colonized would have some insight..seems not the case..or maybe they do and multi-culturalism provides a convenient cover and excuse to pursue revenge (which fits what I've seen, only Europeons buy the multi-cult nonsense).

Anyhow, if the reports are true, at least one area of Europe will not be hearing reports of a projected time of being a minority for the time being. The Irish in the north have seen thru the crap of the multi-cult and too have seen the government does not reflect the native Irish interest and are doing what they have the moral right to, and as all peoples have done in the past; that is they are defending themselves actively against their own ethnic cleansing by non-Irish colonist (aka. economic refugees, ad nauseum).

http://websearch.cs.com/cs/boomframe.jsp?query=Whites+in+UK+minorit y+by+2050&page=1&offset=2&result_url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26amp %3BrequestId%3D7a0707e4de5514cf%26amp%3B clickedItemRank%3D6%26amp%3BuserQuery%3D Whites%2Bin%2BUK%2Bminority%2Bby%2B2050% 26amp%3BclickedItemURN%3Dhttp%253A%252F% 252Fwww.guardian.co.uk%252Fracism%252FSt ory%252F0%252C2763%252C363783%252C00.htm l%26amp%3BinvocationType%3D-%26amp%3BfromPage%3DCSroll&remove_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co. uk%2Fracism%2FStory%2F0%2C2763%2C363783% 2C00.html

Gladstone
Friday, January 16th, 2004, 06:54 PM
Wow! Look at the immigrants in Shetland!
Which does beg the question....Who the hell would want to emigrate to Shetland?! LOL!!! :D :P

I do not know a great deal about Shetland, sounds like it's an Ice Station Zebra type of place (ie Godforsaken);). It might be the multi-cult used its undesireablility to get their foot in the door with the immigrants, that is flood a place undesireable with the invaders thinking no one would care much, and then work from there setting a prescedent.

Loki
Saturday, January 17th, 2004, 04:09 PM
The cheek of these people (non-Europeons) is amazing!

"Yasmin Alibhai-Brown of the Foreign Policy Centre, who arrived in London from Uganda in 1972, said such fears are basically racist: 'Only white people worry about this'."



I know what my thoughts will be when chance has it I find my fingers around Yasmin Alibhai-Brown's swarthy greasy neck.

Milesian
Saturday, January 17th, 2004, 04:33 PM
I do not know a great deal about Shetland, sounds like it's an Ice Station Zebra type of place (ie Godforsaken);). It might be the multi-cult used its undesireablility to get their foot in the door with the immigrants, that is flood a place undesireable with the invaders thinking no one would care much, and then work from there setting a prescedent.

Yup, Shetland is a god-forsaken place alright :)
It just seems strange, there are plenty of immigrants in the major cities like Glasgow and Edinburgh. I'm not sure what is of interest in Shetland to them - desolate, windswept isles that they are. Interesting place though, I can never remember if Skara Brae is in Shetland or Orkney (Orkney seeming to be unattractive to them compared to Shetland.....must be some mysterious logic at work there) ;)

Gladstone
Monday, January 19th, 2004, 01:00 AM
I'm not sure what is of interest in Shetland to them - desolate, windswept isles that they are. Interesting place though, I can never remember if Skara Brae is in Shetland or Orkney (Orkney seeming to be unattractive to them compared to Shetland.....must be some mysterious logic at work there) ;)

It might be that as there are few natives of Shetland that a few colonist would make a dent percentage wise. Too, they may have been attempting to sneak them in the back door.

Scáthach
Monday, January 19th, 2004, 07:27 PM
I'd love to go to Shetland, it's where the sweet dwarfy ponies are from, no? :D

Laedifox
Monday, January 19th, 2004, 07:57 PM
I've been wanting to go to Shetland and Orkney for a while too. If I ever make it across the pond, that'll be one of my stops.

I wonder if the map only takes non-white immigrants into account; after all, Shetland is closer to Norway that to Edinburgh. Maybe most of those immigrants are Norwegians? I guess it wouldn't be quite so bad in that case ...

Gladstone
Monday, January 19th, 2004, 10:29 PM
I'd love to go to Shetland

You always do have to be the odd man...err..woman..out, don't you Scathach!? ;)

Gladstone
Monday, January 19th, 2004, 10:48 PM
I wonder if the map only takes non-white immigrants into account; after all, Shetland is closer to Norway that to Edinburgh. Maybe most of those immigrants are Norwegians?

If the map indicated Norwegians it would be better. The blue on the map specifically indicates non-Europeon population. This is the link with the specific page

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=457



I guess it wouldn't be quite so bad in that case...

It's worse now, this map is about three years old :|.

Maps of North America (as well as all of Western Europe) would be quite similar as the one of the Isles as it too has had a powerful surge of immigration the past 40 years. Something that just happened by natural events? Not a chance!

Loki
Sunday, March 20th, 2005, 09:26 PM
By Anthony Browne, Sunday September 3, 2000 - The Observer (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.obse rver.co.uk%2F)


Whites will be an ethnic minority in Britain by the end of the century. Analysis of official figures indicate that, at current fertility rates and levels of immigration, there will be more non-whites than whites by 2100.

It would be the first time in history that a major indigenous population has voluntarily become a minority, rather than through war, famine or disease. Whites will be a minority in London by 2010.

In the early 1950s there were only a few tens of thousands of non-whites in the UK. By 1991 that had risen to 3 million - 6 per cent of the population. The population of ethnic minorities has been growing at between 2 and 4 per cent a year. Net immigration has been running at record levels, with 185,000 newcomers last year.

Government forecasts suggest that immigration on its own will be responsible for half the growth of the British population over the next couple of decades.

New immigrants, who are on average younger than the population at large, also tend to have higher fertility rates. In contrast, the population of white British citizens is static. Their fertility rate is very low - at under 2 children per woman - and there is overall emigration of British citizens. The analysis of the figures showed that if the population of ethnic minorities grows at 4 per cent a year, whites will become a minority before 2100. The demographer who made the calculation wished to remain anonymous for fear of accusations of racism.


Source: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,363750,00.html (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fobserver .guardian.co.uk%2Fuk_news%2Fstory%2F0%2C 6903%2C363750%2C00.html)

Death and the Sun
Tuesday, March 22nd, 2005, 11:32 PM
That prediction is based on the assumption that the present trends will continue, however I believe it's very unlikely that they will.

I hope and believe a breaking point will be reached withing our lifetimes, say, before 2050.

RedJack
Wednesday, March 23rd, 2005, 09:16 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

This cannot be allowed to happen!! :eek:

flavius
Thursday, March 24th, 2005, 04:41 PM
In my eyes the rest of the white people on this planet will be forced to settle in new areas (Scandinavia, North Canada, Alaska, Antarktis etc.) and will build new states.
On the other hand they`ll help their population to "grow" by in-vitro-fertilisation (New Lebensborn). There will be no other way for the next generations, if our attemts for a white revolution fail.

János Hunyadi
Friday, March 25th, 2005, 12:57 AM
The United Kingdom has one of the fastest growing mixed-race populations in the world, fuelled by the continuing rise of inter-ethnic relationships.


The United Kingdom has one of the fastest growing mixed-race populations in the world, fuelled by the continuing rise of inter-ethnic relationships.

Data from the 2001 census due to be released later this year is expected to confirm that Britain has one of the highest rates in the world of inter-ethnic relationships and, consequently, mixed race people.

By 1997 already half of black men and a third of black women in relationships had a white partner according to a major study of ethnic minorities published by the Policy Studies Institute (PSI).

It also revealed that other inter-racial relationships were flourishing with a fifth of Asian men and 10% of Asian women opting for a white partner.


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http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/uk/2002/race/changing_face_of_britain.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/furniture/in_depth/uk/2002/race/one_parent3_bar.gif

http://news.bbc.co.uk/furniture/in_depth/uk/2002/race/ethnic_growth_bar2.gif

http://news.bbc.co.uk/furniture/in_depth/uk/2002/race/henryfrench210.jpg

I find this picture to be very disturbing! WTF! It almost seems as if Mr. Henry was awarded that medal by the UK government for being able to score himself an English wife!

:viking4:

Odin Biggles
Saturday, March 26th, 2005, 12:13 AM
But discriminating people on skin colour is racist and has no place in 21st century Britain !!! :icon12: .

Rolf Eder
Saturday, March 26th, 2005, 01:24 AM
What kind of sane white man would choose a negro for a mate? Some things just boggle the mind. England, I think is the most morally self-righteous, pro-multicult country in Europe and these numbers don't surprise me one bit.

Nordhammer
Saturday, March 26th, 2005, 04:47 AM
I think it was Gwyneth Paltrow that said she doesn't like America, it's too racist, and that she prefers Britain because it's more multicultural.

Odin Biggles
Tuesday, March 29th, 2005, 11:33 PM
Would marry or have a relationship with someone of a different race?

Total White Black Asian
Yes 50% 46% 71% 46%
No 37% 41% 20% 42%
Don't Know 13% 14% 10% 12%



Im not surprised the Black vote for yes is high, they gain by race mixing whereas Whites, lose.

János Hunyadi
Wednesday, March 30th, 2005, 01:15 AM
Over the summer, I had the experiance of taking a three week school trip to the UK. During my stay there I spent 6 nights in Londinistan and the level of miscgenation which I saw there even surpassed that of what I've previously seen in the American cities of Los Angeles and New York City.

In London I saw a sh*tload of the White women with Black males while over there. And no, these weren't the fat and ugly White women with low self-esteem issues, these White women were all beautiful and physically attractive. I saw a few White women with Indians/Paki's but this pairing was far less frequent.

I also encountered a rather nasty experiance on the London metro. I noticed 5 little Paki kids running around, sure they appeared to be quite pale but Paki's nontheless. Later as I got off I looked over my shoulder, to my disgust I could see piercing blue eyes and a strain of dirty blonde hair through her burka, whilst her arm was wrapped around her dark Paki lover. That English women had betrayed her race, whilst adopting the ways of a foriegn mudslum invader. :mad:

I was also disgusted by the large number of WM's with Indian women, and I'm not talking about ugly socially ackward losers, most of the White men that I saw with Indian women were generally tall, handsome, and well built English men. I also saw a large number of White men with Black women. And I'm not talking about the lighter and less gorilla-looking Halle Berry or Beyonce ones but the dark, fat, and braided hair Whoopi Goldberg and Serena and Venus Williams looking ones.

So no, this article definetely is no form of exaggeration.

Altough, I also don't think that Londinistan can speak for the whole of UK either. I found my stay in Edinburgh and York to me much Whiter however, but I don't know how much longer those cities will stay like that for :frown:

tuddorsped
Wednesday, April 13th, 2005, 12:05 AM
Over the summer, I had the experiance of taking a three week school trip to the UK. During my stay there I spent 6 nights in Londinistan and the level of miscgenation which I saw there even surpassed that of what I've previously seen in the American cities of Los Angeles and New York City.

In London I saw a sh*tload of the White women with Black males while over there. And no, these weren't the fat and ugly White women with low self-esteem issues, these White women were all beautiful and physically attractive. I saw a few White women with Indians/Paki's but this pairing was far less frequent.

I also encountered a rather nasty experiance on the London metro. I noticed 5 little Paki kids running around, sure they appeared to be quite pale but Paki's nontheless. Later as I got off I looked over my shoulder, to my disgust I could see piercing blue eyes and a strain of dirty blonde hair through her burka, whilst her arm was wrapped around her dark Paki lover. That English women had betrayed her race, whilst adopting the ways of a foriegn mudslum invader. :mad:

I was also disgusted by the large number of WM's with Indian women, and I'm not talking about ugly socially ackward losers, most of the White men that I saw with Indian women were generally tall, handsome, and well built English men. I also saw a large number of White men with Black women. And I'm not talking about the lighter and less gorilla-looking Halle Berry or Beyonce ones but the dark, fat, and braided hair Whoopi Goldberg and Serena and Venus Williams looking ones.

So no, this article definetely is no form of exaggeration.

Altough, I also don't think that Londinistan can speak for the whole of UK either. I found my stay in Edinburgh and York to me much Whiter however, but I don't know how much longer those cities will stay like that for :frown:

I wouldn't get too carried away. There's definitely been a socio-cultural shift these last ten years but it still largely affects low income families. Very few of those nice middle class boys and girls, you saw on our streets, will be settling down with their black partners and having children. Most of them are just vacuous idiots making a fashion statement. They're probably too vain and self-centred to do anything like have children. The majority of white women with mixed race kids are sad lonely excuses for human beings. It's still a tragedy but not the greatest of losses.

What does concern me a great deal is white middle class boys and Indian girls. Okay, so genetically it is not so severe ( perhaps phenotypically no more so than marrying someone from the southern periphery of Europe - cue abuse) but it still ultimately endangers the genetic and cultural integrity of our people.

The real problem of course is that most white couples aren't having enough kids. That's the real demographic catastrophe. AIDS and a few other nasty viruses should take care of the ethnics and their white bed partners anyway. Let's hope so.

János Hunyadi
Wednesday, April 13th, 2005, 12:15 AM
I wouldn't get too carried away. There's definitely been a socio-cultural shift these last ten years but it still largely affects low income families. Very few of those nice middle class boys and girls, you saw on our streets, will be settling down with their black partners and having children. Most of them are just vacuous idiots making a fashion statement. They're probably too vain and self-centred to do anything like have children. The majority of white women with mixed race kids are sad lonely excuses for human beings. It's still a tragedy but not the greatest of losses.

What does concern me a great deal is white middle class boys and Indian girls. Okay, so genetically it is not so severe ( perhaps phenotypically no more so than marrying someone from the southern periphery of Europe - cue abuse) but it still ultimately endangers the genetic and cultural integrity of our people.

The real problem of course is that most white couples aren't having enough kids. That's the real demographic catastrophe. AIDS and a few other nasty viruses should take care of the ethnics and their white bed partners anyway. Let's hope so.

I agree.

Luckily, greater Londinistan doesn't represent the whole of UK. I found my stay in York to be much more pleasent.

vegard
Wednesday, April 13th, 2005, 07:03 PM
I find this picture to be very disturbing! WTF! It almost seems as if Mr. Henry was awarded that medal by the UK government for being able to score himself an English wife!

LOL,.... well at least she's fat, so he should perhaps have an additional medal for that.

Hagalaz
Wednesday, April 13th, 2005, 10:37 PM
:mad: :viking4: :viking2: :cussing1: :rifle: :evil0000: :uzi20001: :kaioken1: :angryfis: :smstop: :m4: :2gunsfis: :brutalo: :coach000:

GREAT Britannia!!!!!! FIGHT!

Sigel
Thursday, April 14th, 2005, 09:18 AM
What kind of sane white man would choose a negro for a mate? Some things just boggle the mind. England, I think is the most morally self-righteous, pro-multicult country in Europe and these numbers don't surprise me one bit.
Alas this is true. What a depressing read, but it helps if we face the truth. I could rant on for hours about this. Good points raised by all.

Waarnemer
Thursday, December 1st, 2005, 08:38 PM
android] It would be the first time in history that a major indigenous population has voluntarily become a minority, rather than through war, famine or disease. Whites will be a minority in London by 2010. [/FONT]
We can truly be proud of ourselves :thumbdown

QuietWind
Thursday, December 1st, 2005, 10:29 PM
I have a question on this similar topic. I heard that the ratio of males to females (in England specifically) is something like 3 to 1. Does anyone know any factual information on this? Is there any type of census data to support or deny this figure? The reason I am asking is for obvious reasons relating to the above article. If there are indeed less males to females, then females begin looking outside for marriage, or they remain single. This has an impact on fertility rates, as well as minority rates.

Æmeric
Thursday, December 1st, 2005, 10:54 PM
I have a question on this similar topic. I heard that the ratio of males to females (in England specifically) is something like 3 to 1. Does anyone know any factual information on this? Is there any type of census data to support or deny this figure? The reason I am asking is for obvious reasons relating to the above article. If there are indeed less males to females, then females begin looking outside for marriage, or they remain single. This has an impact on fertility rates, as well as minority rates.
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget.asp?ID=6

Thusnelda
Saturday, January 28th, 2006, 02:51 PM
What a shame. :( Everyone can see which consequences the ideological wrong-path called "Multiculturalism" has -> " It would be the first time in history that a major indigenous population has voluntarily become a minority, rather than through war, famine or disease. " How can a ethnicity be so brainwashed to let this happen in their homelands without bigger resistance? One mustnt be a Nationalsocialist, Racist or a Facist to see that this progress is wrong!

Its really sad.

android
Saturday, January 28th, 2006, 03:05 PM
well what can I say

when I walk trough London I see white women dating black men all the time

Dieter
Saturday, January 28th, 2006, 04:07 PM
London and Paris are the worst cities I´ve ever met in Europe.


Re: UK whites will be minority by 2100

This is a speculative statement. You can´t look forward over such a long period.The basic conditions can change like the wind. It is only a projection.

The immigration situation in Germany is different. Here the immigrants are mostly Europeans. About 3 million persons are immigrants of german descent and nearly 1 million persons came from northern or werstern Europe. Alltogether in Germany are living about 14 mio. persons with a so called "immigration background" (whole population 82.5 mio). But you have to see that an child from a german father and from a french mother (for example) gets managed in the statistics as person with an "immigration background". Blacks are a very small minority. The bigger cities in West- and South Germany are full of Turks and other weird beings.

Thruthheim
Saturday, January 28th, 2006, 04:08 PM
This is very old news, infact, that article is what got the ball rolling for me on becoming racialist and a nationalist.

I think it was in the Daily Mail upto 3-4 years ago.

Bridie
Saturday, January 28th, 2006, 04:15 PM
:wtf WTF!! :[]!!

Yep, Valkyrie, I'm not a racist or fascist and I don't even know what a National Socialist is (! LOL), but the thought of the land of my ancestors being over-run with weird bloody foreigners who seek to change the culture etc makes my blood boil. Who the hell do these bastards think they are to come into someone else's home and and transform it to suit themselves. GGGRRRRRRRRRRR

And so many whites seem to welcome the extinction of our people. WTF is wrong with people?

Sorry, vent over.




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Thusnelda
Saturday, January 28th, 2006, 04:38 PM
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I'm not a racist or fascist
Me neither. I just want to preserve the ethnical composition of Europe and it´s specific countries. Every ethnicity on the world should have the right to preserve their own culture and homogenity, and this goes for the Blacks, Asians, Arabs..too. So I think Whites have no right to go to Namibia f.e. and bring their culture there, because its the homeland of the Namibians and its also their culture there.

On the other hand, I dont want to see Europe beeing overrun by foreign people who didnt share our culture at all. Everyone is awared of racism nowadays, but if Whites are the victims, no one is standing up for them. You´re politically incorrect if you say "China for the Chinese, Russia for the Russians and France/England/... for the French/Brits". I cant understand this... Many leftists want to preserve the indigenious culture of the Native Americans, of the Aboriginians and so on. Its important. But preserve the own culture and the own people? "No No, if you think so, you´re racist".

Im so sick of this, really. And most European politicans do nothing against it. They only open the doors wider and wider for alien immigration.

I´m losing my containance.

Bridie
Sunday, January 29th, 2006, 01:00 PM
Well said Valkyrie. :) I couldn't agree with you more.

Rhydderch
Thursday, February 2nd, 2006, 06:26 AM
Many leftists want to preserve the indigenious culture of the Native Americans, of the Aboriginians and so on. Its important. But preserve the own culture and the own people? "No No, if you think so, you´re racist".The problem is that the leftists actually don't care any more about the Native Americans and Aborigines than they do about the Europeans. They are simply using natives as a weapon to undermine the dominant culture. It's the same in Europe itself, they pretend to care so much about "minorities".

boeman
Friday, June 2nd, 2006, 02:15 PM
well what can I say

when I walk trough London I see white women dating black men all the time

Miscegenation in London is at ridiculous levels. Black men running around impregnating as many different White women they can find, Black women opening their legs to any drunk/horny white man with fertile sperm, that has no respect for his race (that's what it really is, they're not really dating, or marrying or anything, they're just procreating). Asian men here seem to be following suit. London is a lost cause (as is Birmingham, Leicester, Luton, Manchester, Bradford, and countless other cities which are following the same trend). Immigration is just the initial attack, it's the White-Non-White miscegenation which is finishing off the remaining Whites in British cities.

With Non-Whites you can't really win. They're either conservative muslim types that wont mix, but will try to impose their backward culture on the land. Or they're culturally-western, but liberal pro-mixing Black and Oriental types that will do almost anything to mix. - So it depends what you want to preserve, Culture or Race. Seems we can preserve either.

But I'm not so sure about Whites being a minority by 2100 in the UK. The largest segment of the Non-White population will be "Mixed Race" by then. Most "Mixed Race" marry white, atleast at present. So many of the non-whites may 'dilute' themselves too much, to be counted as Non-White by the UK Census. Many of the UK Whites by 2100 will be Ryan Giggs, Jade Goody, and Natasha Hamilton types (quadroons).

Perhaps a break down of 40% Unmixed White, 20% Mixed "White" (3/4 White 1/4 Black/Asian), 20% Mixed race, 10% Black 10% Asian.

moltkebismarck
Tuesday, June 13th, 2006, 04:10 PM
I think more of the 'blame' , (if that's the right word) should rest on the British government and thus partly on the citizens as well. People from poor or volatile regions are always going to swarm to cities and industry for jobs and security no matter where that might be. The governments of countries (ex. United States, UK, & Germany) are the ones that need (but won't unfortunately) step up and realize there need to be some limits. Like it or not, it's the country's own fault for letting such large numbers of foreigners into their country. For example assimilation, which was the basis for the American melting pot for 200 years has become a negative term in the media and government circles. This issue and those like are usually refereed to as some type of invasion. I think that's not the right wording, as it's really simply cultural suicide.

Cythraul
Thursday, February 8th, 2007, 02:28 PM
In my eyes the rest of the white people on this planet will be forced to settle in new areas (Scandinavia, North Canada, Alaska, Antarktis etc.) and will build new states.

I think it's interesting that you feel white people will be pushed to the coldest, most northern regions of the world, even if it's not within Europe, like Alaska.

I've often wondered, are immigrants from generally hotter places like Africa, Turkey, India put off from migrating to climates they are less familiar with? Britain these days has a fairly mild climate and I often wonder... if it was colder here, with perhaps more snow, would there be as many immigrants?

The thing is... we shouldn't demonize white Europeans for reproducing a small amount. None of this political discussion will matter soon because the world is over-populated, and mother earth will soon reach breaking point. So white people having less children is actually THE most sensible thing to do and it actually makes me proud to see that the white race is (subconciously) the only race to recognise this.

What the problem is, is that Muslims (as a great example) seek to saturate the world with their religion and culture. They have some choices as to how they do this: wage war on non-muslims, convert non-muslims, breed out the non-muslims, or just simply breed as much as possible so as to overwhelm and overpower the non-muslims... well they're doing all of those things.

White europeans breeding more to counteract the birth-rate of non-white people is not even close to a good solution. The only solution is to stop immigration and reclaim some kind of sacred land. Muslims can't breed infinitely if they are limited to the amount of land they can occupy.

golem
Thursday, February 8th, 2007, 03:13 PM
The thing is... we shouldn't demonize white Europeans for reproducing a small amount. None of this political discussion will matter soon because the world is over-populated, and mother earth will soon reach breaking point. So white people having less children is actually THE most sensible thing to do and it actually makes me proud to see that the white race is (subconciously) the only race to recognise this.

Untrue. The so-called population bomb is one of biggest hoaxes of the 20th century.
The problem isn't of Muslims reproducing too much, but, conversely, of Europeans not reproducing. Any healthy and normal person wants to bear children, wants to have family. One of the main causes of the European decline of today is that people don't want to raise children and have families. This has lead us to this state of degeneracy in which we are today.

As for mother earth being over-populated - I personally think it is just a load of Masonic crap.

I for myself plan on having at least five children, it proves how insensible I am towards this fake problem and the mother earth.

:P

Cythraul
Thursday, February 8th, 2007, 05:22 PM
I disagree. If we weren't sustaining the world's population by breeding, torturing and killing billions of animals every day... the meat-eaters would starve. When mankind crossed the line from being harmonious with nature to adopting an anthropocentric view of the world, where our role is to dominate nature, we became too many. That line was probably a few billion births ago.

I've had this discussion before. Just because there are still areas of unpopulated land, that doesn't mean that the world has room for more of us.

Nephilim
Thursday, February 8th, 2007, 09:13 PM
(http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,363750,00.html)http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,363750,00.html (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,363750,00.html)

This is a warning call to all folks to wake up from the slumber to revolt against the modern world
my answer to this decay that is spreading across the most progressive cultures in europe,,, stay away from you workplace throw away the mental chains turn of the tv dont´s send your children to school teach them yourself the history of their own culture make them fiery against this world, leave the cities start village communities .This times the gods of our forefathers have left us because many of us have turned their backs on their cultures and gods to worship semitic and the money gods and to give in to foreign cultures and race mixing it is time for all of us to show us worthy once more to the gods of our forefathers.

naamreG
Monday, February 12th, 2007, 09:59 PM
At year 2100 whites will be a minority in the UK. That's a very long period of time.
It's just a statistic, but a very frightening statistic. The breeding of immigrants and the immigration of them is getting worse by day. It counts for many Europeans countries of course.
If it won't be stopped and it goes on like a rate like that, then maybe it will be sooner then 2100.

I read a few days ago, muslims will be the majority in Germany in 2050. That's 50 years earlier!

And take a look in the Netherlands, where I live, Amsterdam and Rotterdam have already a immigrant majority!! Whites are moving to other parts of the Netherlands in a very fast way.

Mankind is doomed within some decades as it goes like this.

Angelcynn Beorn
Monday, February 19th, 2007, 02:44 AM
I disagree. If we weren't sustaining the world's population by breeding, torturing and killing billions of animals every day... the meat-eaters would starve. When mankind crossed the line from being harmonious with nature to adopting an anthropocentric view of the world, where our role is to dominate nature, we became too many. That line was probably a few billion births ago.

I've had this discussion before. Just because there are still areas of unpopulated land, that doesn't mean that the world has room for more of us.

Yet how is eating meat any less "harmonius" than eating grains? Man gained his position at the apex of the food chain precisely by being the best predator. It's almost certainly the main reason why we also developed a superior intellect.

Anyway, back on topic. Voluntarily restricting our own reproduction is going to do nothing other than delay the point at which we reach Earth's limit, giving the non-whites a few more generations to breed even more non-whites.

Earth is a closed system, a place where retreat, running away, and migration can only ever be short term solutions. If the choice is betweenthe continued healthy growth of my own people at the expense of non-whites; or the continued explosion in non-white numbers whilst my own people shrivel in numbers and significance;there's only going to be one option for me.

Nothing in life is stagnant, you are either growing or you decreasing. Attempts to establish an 'equilibrium' are only ever temporary delusions.

Cythraul
Monday, February 19th, 2007, 12:50 PM
Yet how is eating meat any less "harmonius" than eating grains? Man gained his position at the apex of the food chain precisely by being the best predator. It's almost certainly the main reason why we also developed a superior intellect.

You misunderstand me mate! I didn't say eating meat was disharmonious with nature, just that the way we farm it is. For thousands of years, humans, including those in Britain and Europe had a sacred oneness with their prey. They "thanked" the animal for giving up their life to sustain ours (much like the remaining native american indians still do), and they did not kill in excess. Nowadays, when people buy a plastic-wrapped piece of meat from their local supermarket, they don't even spare a thought for where it came from. I've talked to children who, believe it or not, don't even know what animal bacon comes from. Animals are mostly slaughtered, methodically by machines... like some kind of production line. There is a huge difference between this state of affairs and the way in which we used to engage with our prey... and to me, it couldn't be more unnatural, clinical or thoughtless.

Housecard
Monday, February 19th, 2007, 06:15 PM
What a shame. :( Everyone can see which consequences the ideological wrong-path called "Multiculturalism" has -> " It would be the first time in history that a major indigenous population has voluntarily become a minority, rather than through war, famine or disease. " How can a ethnicity be so brainwashed to let this happen in their homelands without bigger resistance? One mustnt be a Nationalsocialist, Racist or a Facist to see that this progress is wrong!

Its really sad.

I agree it is really really sad Valkyrie! But the "controllers" have brain washed those who don't question things and use the race and guilt cards,to get their way. The controllers who control the politicians want a mono society they don't care for other races or any race for that matter they want a dumbed down MONO ethnic society which has out bred its intelligence,so that they can control us as slaves. They only fear the Anglo/Nordics,so if they can get us to breed out ourselves, or not breed at all, it suits them fine.

Whats even more true is that many of us are not breeding because we don't want our kids to be forced and brought up with people not of there racial heritage, to be abused and terrorised from community, school and work, if there will be any work for them in the future that is.

The controllers move all work to Asia! They are dividing us first so that they can conquer us and its working. We must unite with all our Northern heritage and start acting in positive clever way just like they are dumbing us down.

We must network soon or die forever.

Stopping paying TAXES as far as legally possible is the one way that we can make an impact. Because without it they cannot give it away to the invaders and the trash of society,of our own who are assisting them, making our lands hell on earth.

Protecting our heritage and civilization we have created,freedom and freedom of speech with responsibility,living in spiritual harmony,achieving the best you can be in life.

What more could you want?

Yet we have given all this away in less than a century! For what? A new dark age of Big Brother in all its forms.

Kith of woden
Wednesday, March 14th, 2007, 01:42 AM
By Tom Whitehead

THE number of ethnic-minority people in the country will more than double and hit the 10 million mark within two decades, it has been claimed.

Oxford’s Professor David Coleman, who has fought a student backlash over his views on immigration, said the face of Britain was “radically changing”.

Immigration accounted for the biggest jump in population since the baby boom more than half a century ago, he added.

Professor Coleman’s figures came as business leaders warned that the influx of low-skilled workers from eastern Europe was threatening to displace young white males and was untenable.

Employers were accused of cashing in on cheap labour while leaving the taxpayer to pick up the bill for the knock-on social costs.

Professor Coleman said the birth rate of 0.6 per cent was “primarily thanks to immigration” and that the average net immigration into Britain over the past two years stood at 204,000.

He was speaking at a seminar on population trends staged by the Conservatives yesterday.

His figures show that by 2026 the non-white population of England and Wales will account for around 10 per cent of the total, more than double the 4.5 million ethnic-minority population recorded in the last census in 2001.

There will be around five million white, non-British people in the country at that time, such as migrants from eastern Europe, according to the predictions.

Professor Coleman added: “Quite radical ethnic changes are taking place.”

The don was at the centre of a row earlier this month when student members of a refugee support group called for him to be sacked, claiming he had stirred up hostility towards immigrants.

He was criticised for his role in helping to found think-tank Migrationwatch, but Professor Coleman hit back, saying he was being hounded for daring to challenge Establishment views.

Graeme Leach, chief economist for the Institute of Directors, told the seminar that graduates from the former eastern bloc were taking jobs below their ability and displacing non-graduate British workers.

Some 800,000 workers have flocked from Poland and its neighbours after Britain granted them full access to the jobs market when they joined the EU in 2004.

Mr Leach added: “Membership overwhelmingly disagree that immigration should be unrestricted.”

Professor Coleman told delegates that there was a danger of developing a “car-wash-based” economy rather than an intelligence-based one.

He said: “If you are expanding the size of the low-wage labour force, what you are doing is contradicting, very radically, the fundamental and very wise policy of governments for a high-wage, high-protection economy.”

He also accused employers of taking advantage by paying low wages but not contributing to any social costs that low-income workers may then put on the rest of society

Something tells me that ther will be more than there letting on!

Thruthheim
Wednesday, March 14th, 2007, 02:24 AM
What's alarming is how they bring up these future predictions and credit it with stats/estimations, yet they don't give credence to any policies or views that should stem the flow or any form of prevention.
It was an article similiar to this, the article in the Guardian less than a decade ago about Native Britons to become a minority in Britain within 50-100 years time - which pushed me into the right wing sphere of politics. I found that overwhelming and the realisation that a Britain without the descendants of it's founders forming a safe majority, simply won't be Britain anymore, something I don't want a hand in destroying.

Kith of woden
Wednesday, March 14th, 2007, 02:40 AM
Im with you on that Thruthheim, its as if these journalist are "bragging" about the fact. Im also dubious as to the accuracy of the figures, I mean during the next two decades how many of these immigrants will breed with the indigenous population? Also the whole immigrant application is a scam as i understand it anyway. If an immigrant family of 10 people come into the country then that counts as 1 application, but if that particular immigrant family is deemed as not being able to contribute to our society ( I know laughable and rare indeed!) and thus deported well then the goverment then class this as 10 deported. So the figures are manipulated , so the average "joe" thinks more immigrants are actually getting deported than are settling here. Scary stuff indeed.

SineNomine
Wednesday, March 14th, 2007, 02:50 AM
The don was at the centre of a row earlier this month when student members of a refugee support group called for him to be sacked, claiming he had stirred up hostility towards immigrants.
So typical of "liberal" students! They don't like an opinion, even if it's factually based? Then they try to silence it... And they are not even a majority - most students are either apathetic (part of the problem) or of the belief that immigration has gone too far. These left-wing reactionaries do not speak for the rest of us who think the situation needs remedying.

hildolf
Saturday, September 1st, 2007, 09:11 PM
An article from the daily express:


http://www.express.co.uk/ourcomments/view/17872/Racial-imbalance-in-our-cities-puts-Britain-at-risk

Matamoros
Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 07:55 AM
...England 2045, United Kingdom 2058. :(

OneEnglishNorman
Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 06:57 PM
Everyone is afraid to say anything. I remember a Conservative politician said that immigration was altering the "Anglo-Saxon character" of England or words to that effect. He was immediately slapped down by the party leadership.

This is not some melting pot dream as is obvious, the Pakistanis see themselves as Pakistani or at best British-Pakistani or British-Asian. They are segregated from whites, such are the numbers and cultural background that they will not mix. This is a blessing and a curse I suppose. The blacks for differing reasons are mixing.

Anyway, nothing will happen. Who is going to worry about voting for a vain hope, when they have life, a mortgage, bills to take care of? It's all inertia.

And don't forget, this big happy family of Pakistanis, Poles, AfroCaribs, Turks, Nigerians etc, seems more normal to young white kids now. They will not have known any different.

Frederica
Tuesday, September 11th, 2007, 11:37 PM
Feels like we already are in London.

Elgar
Sunday, September 30th, 2007, 01:09 AM
White British children are now a minority in almost a fifth of education authorities in England, official figures have shown.

They are outnumbered at primary and secondary schools in 29 of the 150 local education authority areas, including Birmingham, Leicester, Luton, Slough and most London boroughs.

In some parts of the capital, children from ethnic minority families account for more than nine in 10 school places.

The figures were released on the day Government statistics showed it has been underestimating by a third the number of immigrants expected to come to Britain.

Some 190,000 are now expected to arrive every year — an increase of 45,000 a year — fuelled by a surge in people from eastern Europe.

The latest figures threatened to turn immigration into a key issue at the next general election as a minister appeared to concede that Labour had lost control.

Liam Byrne, the immigration minister, said the new assumptions "show what could happen unless we take action now".

He added: "Frankly, it underlines the need for swift and sweeping changes to the system in the next 12 months."

Figures from the Department for Children, Schools and Families showed that last year saw the biggest year-on-year increase in pupils from ethnic minorities.

Across the country, they account for almost 22 per cent of pupils at primary school compared to 20.6 per cent last year. At secondary level, numbers rose at a similar rate, to 17.7 per cent.

In all, about one in eight pupils — some 800,000 — do not speak English as a first language and numbers are thought to have doubled in the past decade.
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The Conservatives said the sheer number of non-English speakers in state schools was putting a strain on resources.

Damian Green, the shadow immigration minister, said: "What is important is whether or not these children arrive in school able to speak English. If they can't, and they are being taught in overcrowded classrooms, this makes it much harder for teachers to do their job."

Across inner and outer London, black and Asian pupils outnumber white British children by about six to four.

In secondary schools in Brent, north-west London, which is one of the capital's most multi-cultural boroughs, only seven per cent of pupils were of white British origin last year, figures show. A further 36 per cent were classed as Asian and 24 per cent were black.

In Tower Hamlets, east London, less than 15 per cent of primary school children were classed as white British, compared to 63 per cent Bangladeshi Asian.

In Birmingham, which has around 300 schools, 57 per cent of primary and 52 per cent of secondary pupils are from non-white British families. In Leicester, Luton and Slough white British pupils were also in a minority at both primary and secondary level.

Elsewhere, particularly in rural areas, school populations are almost entirely white. In Devon 95 per cent of primary pupils were white British.

The Commission for Racial Equality said this year that parents must stop sending children to schools where most pupils come from the same religious or racial backgrounds.

Nick Johnson, the CRE director of policy, said segregated schools were a "ticking time bomb".

Figures show that even in some of the most ethnically mixed towns and cities in England, schools are divided along racial lines.

In Blackburn, more than a fifth of the population is Asian but many children have little opportunity to mix with white pupils. Four out of nine secondary schools in the area attract more than 90 per cent of students from a single ethnic background, figures from the Tories show.

In Bradford, the scene of race riots in 2001, almost all pupils at 10 out of 28 secondary schools were from the same racial group last year.

From this month, schools face closure unless they promote race relations and links between different religious groups as part of new laws governing "community cohesion".

Jim Knight, the schools minister, said: "Schools are the building blocks of our communities so it's vital that they promote tolerance, respect and understanding across society.

"A new community cohesion duty means all schools must now show what they are doing to help all pupils to achieve their potential, experience different cultures and appreciate common values.

"We already have guidance in place to help teachers support children who have English as an additional language."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=IWHLKQDIR1153QFIQM FCFFWAVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/2007/09/27/nschools127.xml

Matamoros
Sunday, September 30th, 2007, 01:43 AM
The Commission for Racial Equality said this year that parents must stop sending children to schools where most pupils come from the same religious or racial backgrounds.

What rubbish! If we want to survive, we'll have to send our children to schools where they're not a minority. I've seen what happens to white kids send to school with a non-white majority - it's not pretty. They usually get beaten up until they act just like whatever sort of lowlife dominates their school.

Atol Aglæca
Thursday, October 4th, 2007, 02:23 PM
The population of some English cities is changing to such a degree, that within several decades, whites will be the largest among ethnic minority groups, according to a new report.

Scholars and others here agree that England's population is growing more ethnically diverse, but they differ on whether various groups are becoming more or less segregated.

University of Manchester academics Ludi Simpson and Nissa Finney predict in a report that in Birmingham, the second largest city in England, the white population will become a minority by 2024 -- still the largest group by far, but no longer accounting for a majority of the total population.

The cities of Leicester and Bradford will likely reach the same point in about 30 years, with white residents matched in number by the descendents of immigrants from Africa, Asia and the Caribbean, they say.

England's population has been overwhelmingly Caucasian throughout its history. The shift began shortly after World War II, when the government encouraged men from the former colonies to fill factory posts left empty by the casualties of war.

Although Wales and Scotland remain largely homogeneous, a 2001 census found that England's white, native-born population had dropped to 87 percent.

Simpson predicts that the white population of England will plateau at around 75-80 percent in a couple of decades, depending on the vagaries of future immigration and the social dynamics of the individual groups.

In recent years, as tensions have risen between the Muslim community and others in Britain, commentators have frequently warned that some ethnic groups are becoming isolated from the rest of society.

Simpson, however, said recent government studies show that ethnic minorities are increasingly moving out of the cities and into the suburbs, merging with the broader population.

That assessment appears to contradict a report last month by the government-funded Commission for Racial Equality (CRE), which warned that segregation was increasing in England.

The CRE report said an ethnic minority baby born in Britain today is more likely to go to substandard state schools, to receive poor health care and to live in his or her own group's separate neighborhood.

CRE director of policy Nick Johnson said that his group had relied on much of the same data used by Simpson but had approached the subject from a different angle. He suggested that Simpson may have been wary of stirring up "fear of diversity."

Mohammed Anwar, a professor at the University of Warwick, said it could be difficult to talk broadly about race relations in Britain since different ethnic groups were going through different experiences.

For example, prosperous Indian immigrants in the East End of London are following the path set by Jewish immigrants in the same neighborhoods decades before and moving out to the suburbs, he said.

Elsewhere, however, many British Muslims have been facing more discrimination since 2001, he said.

"This debate about whether segregation is increasing or decreasing is not supported by the figures," he said. "It's remaining the same."

Muddying the picture further is the prediction of some analysts that people of mixed race will become the largest ethnic minority sometime in the next two to three decades.

According to a study in the late 1990s by the Policy Studies Institute think tank, an estimated 40 percent of black children in Britain had one white parent. One-third of all British-born black women were reportedly married or in a long-term relationship with a white man, with the figure rising to half of all British-born black men.

Cass Gilroy, an editor with African Echo, a newspaper for African immigrants in Britain, said Tuesday British identity was becoming more fluid.

As was the case in America, he said, British identity was increasingly becoming something that one chose, rather than simply a matter of birth.

Source (http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200710/CUL20071003b.html)

Aeternitas
Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 06:11 PM
From the desk of The Brussels Journal (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http&#37;3A%2F%2Fwww.brus selsjournal.com%2Fuser%2F39) on Fri, 2007-10-05 08:42

A quote from CNSnews, 3 October 2007 (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnsn ews.com%2FViewCulture.asp%3FPage%3D%2FCu lture%2Farchive%2F200710%2FCUL20071003b. html)

University of Manchester academics Ludi Simpson and Nissa Finney predict in a report that in Birmingham, the second largest city in England, the white population will become a minority by 2024 – still the largest group by far, but no longer accounting for a majority of the total population.
The cities of Leicester and Bradford will likely reach the same point in about 30 years, with white residents matched in number by the descendents of immigrants from Africa, Asia and the Caribbean, they say. […] Simpson predicts that the white population of England will plateau at around 75-80 percent in a couple of decades, depending on the vagaries of future immigration and the social dynamics of the individual groups.Source (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brus selsjournal.com%2Fnode%2F2545)

Elgar
Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 06:49 PM
What is important to remember however, is that the elderly are ever increasing as a proportion of society. So despite the fact that white people will still represent 50% of these cities - white people will mostly be geriatric, the non-white youth of these cities are already a majority.

Alizon Device
Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 07:09 PM
Simpson predicts that the white population of England will plateau at around 75-80 percent in a couple of decades, depending on the vagaries of future immigration and the social dynamics of the individual groups.

Why would the white population plateau, i.e. stabilise, at 75-80% ?

What would stop its natural, continued decline in the face of higher non-white birthrates and perpetual intercontinental immigration ?

Hmmm.. 75-80% is quite a reassuringly high figure for the chattering middle classes to live with.
They can rest with a clear conscience at night, in the knowledge that 'genuine' asylum seekers and skilled immigrants are being given a haven and career opportunities by good old Britannica, whilst over three quarters of the population will forever remain native 'Brits'.

How convenient!
I have a sneaking suspicion that Simpson's prediction is actually pure horseshit. :rolleyes:

SwordOfTheVistula
Monday, October 8th, 2007, 10:59 AM
Yeah, that 'plateau' didn't make sense to me either, all evidence would indicate otherwise.

In the US they kept up the pretense that we were a majority white country and always would be, and thus not need to worry about a 'few' immigrants-up until the mid 1990s or so, when they started telling us that we would inevitably become a nonwhite majority country, and that we had better get used to it.

United Faith
Monday, October 8th, 2007, 11:18 AM
What is important to remember however, is that the elderly are ever increasing as a proportion of society. So despite the fact that white people will still represent 50% of these cities - white people will mostly be geriatric, the non-white youth of these cities are already a majority.

Yes, very true in most cases; particularly, London.

Drstrangelove
Thursday, November 1st, 2007, 09:09 PM
I live in Leicester and id say we are already in a minority !

Theres Several areas of the city which are almost exclusive to asians

in fact i can think of two schools where whites are in a very small minority. all most all the city council are asians. and theres a road called the Melton road (some may have heard the leicester council likes to brag about it ) which im not kidding has nearly all asian shops .

thats not to say asians are the only non whites though . I think the level of Somalians in Leicester increases by the day!

Elgar
Sunday, May 25th, 2008, 07:24 PM
This is a book (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Future-Multi-Ethnic-Britain-Parekh-Report/dp/186197227X) which in my opinion demonstrates that what we are seeing happening in England is contrived:


Amazon Review:

The Commission on the Future of Multi-Ethnic Britain was established by the Runnymede Trust and given the task of analysing the current state of multi-ethnic Britain and to propose ways of countering racial discrimination. One of the main assumptions of the report is that England, Scotland and Wales are at a turning point in their history and could go one of two ways; either they become narrow and inward looking, characterised by conflict between themselves, between regions and among the various communities which make up the populace, or they "develop as a community of citizens" as well as a "community of communities". To avoid the former and achieve the latter involves a thorough discussion around a number of basic themes including rethinking the national story and identity, understanding that all identities are in a process of transition, developing a balance between cohesion, equality and difference, addressing and eliminating all forms of racism, reducing material inequalities, and building a pluralistic human rights culture. The report is built around these six themes, but split into three parts. Part one discusses the themes, while part two discusses how these themes ought to be realised in various areas of social policy, including the criminal justice system, employment, the media, education, health, the arts, immigration and asylum. The third and final part deals with the role of government in providing direction, resources and leadership.

The 23 individuals who made up the Commission represent an impressive breadth of experience and expertise in race-related issues. Undoubtedly the report represents the most important contribution to the national debate on racial discrimination for many years and the Commission's recommendations for the basic reform of the country's social, cultural, and political institutions are bound to be taken seriously. All discussions of multi-ethnic Britain from now onward will have to take this as their basis. --Larry Brown

Synopsis
The report of the Commission on the Future of Multi-Ethnic Britain, launched by the Home Secretary in 1997. It covers all aspects of Britain's multi-ethnic future: religion, immigration, crime, educational policy, housing, racial violence, the arts, policing and prison policy. It also covers all minorities: Irish, Asian, Jewish, Caribbean and African - the entire globe in fact. The conclusions and recommendations are far-reaching and important. They will form government policy for the next 20 years and will affect everyone - of whatever religion or colour - in Britain.

Sobriety
Friday, June 6th, 2008, 09:56 PM
The problem is, the Runnymede Trust is top heavy with non-white Third World enchroachers into our ancestral homeland(s) who have been enabled through the illicit acts of indigenous white traitors - adherents of the Frankfurt School.

What galls me is that, these alien brown and black-skinned aliens presume to reconstruct indigenous white British Society. This is treason and they are unmistakenly, the enemies within.

Even though this plan was plotted round about 1997 at the time NuLabour was reelected, Bhikhu Parekh himself should be back in India reconstructing or should that be deconstructing Indian society, not conspiring to commit ethnic cleansing of the white British in their own ancestral homelands.

He has absolutely no right to tamper with or attempt to destroy indigenous white British heritage, history, culture, religious beliefs and traditions.

I would categorize such ethnic-cleansing intent as a clear-cut criminal offence equal to Treason AND attempted genocide.

Although I haven't read this mass homicide plan, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that part of this plan involves renaming streets, towns and cities, historical buildings, public thoroughfares, bridges and county boundaries etc, from which all reference to white indigenous histories will be erased and quite possibly, enforced miscegenation has been planned for at a later juncture.

In normal circumstances such actions would also be treated as an Act of War.

Elgar
Sunday, June 8th, 2008, 03:40 PM
The problem is, the Runnymede Trust is top heavy with non-white Third World enchroachers into our ancestral homeland(s) who have been enabled through the illicit acts of indigenous white traitors - adherents of the Frankfurt School.

What galls me is that, these alien brown and black-skinned aliens presume to reconstruct indigenous white British Society. This is treason and they are unmistakenly, the enemies within.

Even though this plan was plotted round about 1997 at the time NuLabour was reelected, Bhikhu Parekh himself should be back in India reconstructing or should that be deconstructing Indian society, not conspiring to commit ethnic cleansing of the white British in their own ancestral homelands.

He has absolutely no right to tamper with or attempt to destroy indigenous white British heritage, history, culture, religious beliefs and traditions.

I would categorize such ethnic-cleansing intent as a clear-cut criminal offence equal to Treason AND attempted genocide.

Although I haven't read this mass homicide plan, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that part of this plan involves renaming streets, towns and cities, historical buildings, public thoroughfares, bridges and county boundaries etc, from which all reference to white indigenous histories will be erased and quite possibly, enforced miscegenation has been planned for at a later juncture.

In normal circumstances such actions would also be treated as an Act of War.

An excellent post!

The book hasn´t arrived yet, though I have received an email informing me that it will be despatched soon. I intend to update this thread in due course.

Cythraul
Monday, June 9th, 2008, 11:04 AM
the latter involves a thorough discussion around a number of basic themes including rethinking the national story and identity
Excuse me? Do they honestly think they'll get away with that? We might be temporarily pre-occupied with such trivial brainwash as Big Brother and political correctness, but we will not watch our history and heritage be re-written. Sobriety is right - this is treason. Should a board of indigenous British decide to alter the ethnic and cultural make-up of their country, that is one thing (treachery), but it is another to allow non-British to decide the past, present and future of a nation that isn't even theirs.

Multiculturalism is in the extreme interests of the elite. Their agenda couldn't be more transparent.

GermanWithGod
Wednesday, July 9th, 2008, 08:02 PM
The real english, real european people will not tolerate the crap.

Hopefully there will be so many immigrants creating havoc soon that something will kick off, and that will be the end of them. These riots happening all over, south africa, new zealand, australia, uk. The blacks think they are smart fighting, they still make up a tiny minority.

Just have to wait till the time is right, and the tables will turn fast

Heiliger Tod
Thursday, July 10th, 2008, 10:40 AM
Excuse me? Do they honestly think they'll get away with that? We might be temporarily pre-occupied with such trivial brainwash as Big Brother and political correctness, but we will not watch our history and heritage be re-written. Sobriety is right - this is treason. Should a board of indigenous British decide to alter the ethnic and cultural make-up of their country, that is one thing (treachery), but it is another to allow non-British to decide the past, present and future of a nation that isn't even theirs.

Multiculturalism is in the extreme interests of the elite. Their agenda couldn't be more transparent.

"Once you control the past, you control the future"

GermanWithGod
Thursday, July 10th, 2008, 07:49 PM
I reckon the elite plan to deliberately make everyone a mudwash of ignorant retards to slave away for their system.

I'm going to beat up prince charles if i see him.

Rhydderch
Tuesday, July 22nd, 2008, 03:28 AM
I'm going to beat up prince charles if i see him.Prince Charles? What's he got to do with it?

Eustaqius
Tuesday, July 22nd, 2008, 07:59 AM
Look at it from whichever form or prism one wishes, the irreducible conclusion is that the fate of Britain is definitely in the hands of british traitors and the foreign cabal. The same foreign cabal that has dominated british politics in the past.

Patrioten
Tuesday, July 22nd, 2008, 12:32 PM
Excuse me? Do they honestly think they'll get away with that? We might be temporarily pre-occupied with such trivial brainwash as Big Brother and political correctness, but we will not watch our history and heritage be re-written.Well wait another generation, when these ideas have been put into practise, in our educational systems, in the media, in the political debate, whilst the current development of de-Europeanization has continued unchecked. With more and more immigrants, less and less indigenous English, Welsh, Scottish and Irish, ever increasing numbers of race mixing, and an endemic rootlessness spreading amongst the entire population. Do you imagine the people putting up much of a fight to resist this by then?

Here in Sweden we're already seeing signs of this development, politicians arguing that Sweden has always been a nation of immigrants and that the current development is nothing new, that the immigrants of the past and present have made Sweden into what it is today, that we would have been a barbaric and backwards country if it hadn't been for them, our own prime minister claiming that "Ursvenskt är bara barbariet. Resten av utvecklingen har kommit utifrån." "The only thing that is genuinely Swedish is barbarism. The rest of the development has come from outside.", which caused little or no reaction.

It is a gradual development, they're gradually pushing the limits of what the public can tolerate. But it's all done in the spirit of reformation, not revolution, and the public has in the past shown little or no ability to resist these changes. After all, how come we're in a situation today where our countries have been flooded by foriegners, foreign cultures and foreign religions if our population is supposed to be vigilant to any developments which threatens their own existence? Well, because this development has been gradual. If they have tolerated things to go this far, why would they all of the sudden stand up and protest what is happening? And what are they going to protest against, our history being rewritten? Why would anyone even care about such an insignificant issue when there is poverty and famine, discrimination and what more? The public is thouroughly indoctrinated into marxist thought, where materialism trumps anything human. And this will also be a gradual development, it wont be a revolution. It will start off with insinuations, claims being made and tested on the public, before they'll go on with a further deconstruction of your history and national identity.

I am not optimistic about the possibilities of an up-rising due to public outrage over this matter. Multiculturalism will end once people deem it to be no longer in their materialistic interests, as materialistic interests is what our society revolvs around.

TrueEnglish
Monday, September 15th, 2008, 02:22 PM
Prince Charles? What's he got to do with it?

Prince Charles and co are the type of people pushing this madness. He goes with his family to his estates in Africa, he'll have a welcoming commity where he will thanks everyone and blesses them for the wonderful work they are all doing for the poor people in the area, and how nice and friendly they all are. Then he'll hop on his private jet back to a castle he didn't build, and put his legs up on the sofa while his butler polishes his teeth.

He reminds me of Gordon Browns speech on Eid Mubarak, it just looks so weird and forced. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5NjnqKUTa8

You can imagine when the mic goes off "what the hell is eid mubabak? and why am i talking about it"
:D

The social experiment continues. As anyone with common sence knows, when you try to please everyone (which is impossible), you end up alienating all.

Celebrimbor
Tuesday, November 25th, 2008, 08:01 PM
either they become narrow and inward looking, characterised by conflict between themselves, between regions and among the various communities which make up the populace, or they "develop as a community of citizens" as well as a "community of communities". To avoid the former and achieve the latter involves a thorough discussion around a number of basic themes including rethinking the national story and identity, understanding that all identities are in a process of transition, developing a balance between cohesion, equality and difference, addressing and eliminating all forms of racism, reducing material inequalities, and building a pluralistic human rights culture.
In other words: The authors want a society that consists of particular groups, but without racism, a society without material inequalities, but pluralistic (which usually leads to material inequalities). Contradictory goals.
It sounds like "narrow and inward looking" propaganda that lists all negative effects of one option and all positive effects of another option. Very scientific!

Siebenbürgerin
Friday, June 26th, 2009, 10:41 PM
http://bnp.org.uk/files/2009/06/bloodless-genocide.jpg

The bloodless genocide of Britain’s indigenous population through mass Third World immigration has been taken to new heights with the news that at least 40 percent of the under twenty year old population in London are non-indigenous.

This figure means that well within the next generation and a half, white British people will effectively be a total minority in Britain’s capital city, and shortly after that be extinct from the streets of London.

Whitehall’s annual Regional Trends report released yesterday said that more than 700,000 children and teenagers in Britain are classed as non-white, and make up 40 percent of that age group in London.

Currently it is estimated that a third of all of London’s population is non-white, but this figure is to change dramatically as the predominantly youthful population matures.

The figures also show that recent waves of immigration have made a bigger impact on London than other parts of the country.

Here the rest:
http://news.ronatvan.com/2009/06/26/britain%E2%80%99s-bloodless-genocide-by-substitution-40-of-under-20s-in-london-are-%E2%80%9Cethnic%E2%80%9D/

Forest_Dweller
Tuesday, July 13th, 2010, 02:50 AM
The population of some English cities is changing to such a degree, that within several decades, whites will be the largest among ethnic minority groups, according to a new report.

Scholars and others here agree that England's population is growing more ethnically diverse, but they differ on whether various groups are becoming more or less segregated.

University of Manchester academics Ludi Simpson and Nissa Finney predict in a report that in Birmingham, the second largest city in England, the white population will become a minority by 2024 -- still the largest group by far, but no longer accounting for a majority of the total population.

The cities of Leicester and Bradford will likely reach the same point in about 30 years, with white residents matched in number by the descendents of immigrants from Africa, Asia and the Caribbean, they say.

England's population has been overwhelmingly Caucasian throughout its history. The shift began shortly after World War II, when the government encouraged men from the former colonies to fill factory posts left empty by the casualties of war.

Although Wales and Scotland remain largely homogeneous, a 2001 census found that England's white, native-born population had dropped to 87 percent.

Simpson predicts that the white population of England will plateau at around 75-80 percent in a couple of decades, depending on the vagaries of future immigration and the social dynamics of the individual groups.

In recent years, as tensions have risen between the Muslim community and others in Britain, commentators have frequently warned that some ethnic groups are becoming isolated from the rest of society.

Simpson, however, said recent government studies show that ethnic minorities are increasingly moving out of the cities and into the suburbs, merging with the broader population.

That assessment appears to contradict a report last month by the government-funded Commission for Racial Equality (CRE), which warned that segregation was increasing in England.

The CRE report said an ethnic minority baby born in Britain today is more likely to go to substandard state schools, to receive poor health care and to live in his or her own group's separate neighborhood.

CRE director of policy Nick Johnson said that his group had relied on much of the same data used by Simpson but had approached the subject from a different angle. He suggested that Simpson may have been wary of stirring up "fear of diversity."

Mohammed Anwar, a professor at the University of Warwick, said it could be difficult to talk broadly about race relations in Britain since different ethnic groups were going through different experiences.

For example, prosperous Indian immigrants in the East End of London are following the path set by Jewish immigrants in the same neighborhoods decades before and moving out to the suburbs, he said.

Elsewhere, however, many British Muslims have been facing more discrimination since 2001, he said.

"This debate about whether segregation is increasing or decreasing is not supported by the figures," he said. "It's remaining the same."

Muddying the picture further is the prediction of some analysts that people of mixed race will become the largest ethnic minority sometime in the next two to three decades.

According to a study in the late 1990s by the Policy Studies Institute think tank, an estimated 40 percent of black children in Britain had one white parent. One-third of all British-born black women were reportedly married or in a long-term relationship with a white man, with the figure rising to half of all British-born black men.

Cass Gilroy, an editor with African Echo, a newspaper for African immigrants in Britain, said Tuesday British identity was becoming more fluid.

As was the case in America, he said, British identity was increasingly becoming something that one chose, rather than simply a matter of birth.

Source (http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200710/CUL20071003b.html)

Absolutely disgusting. I'm just happy I live in a completely homogenous family, my sister wouldn't even think of dating a negro.

The Aesthete
Tuesday, July 13th, 2010, 04:03 AM
“One-third of all British-born black women were reportedly married or in a long-term relationship with a white man, with the figure rising to half of all British-born black men”.

How could the British do such a thing which to quote Shakespeare is "against all rules of nature".

The change in perceptions of race relations there in the last century will see native Brits a minority unless it is changed.

Witta
Tuesday, July 13th, 2010, 07:17 AM
So basically, the cold war of the jews - leading the cumalative liberalism of successive conservative and labour governments, has had the sum result of my future grandkids and their grandkids, the British, not having a country they can call 'their own', unlike other, especially non white nations.

My descendents will get up in the morning to earn a living for a majority ethnic leisure class of parasites.

Sadly, It sounds unmistakenly like war talk doesnt it. Bosnia, Northern Ireland, Chechnya, 1933, it will be different here will it, buck history will we?

hyidi
Monday, September 13th, 2010, 02:23 PM
My descendents will get up in the morning to earn a living for a majority ethnic leisure class of parasites.Or why our own European 'descendants grandfathers and fathers' fight for England and her culture/religion (ww1 and ww2) and risking there lives for here country only to have foreigners too live a great life in English boarders 60 years later!....
the British soilders lives were wasted!

Take a look at the English soccer team and the english relay team for the Olympics.....
Half of the english soccer team are Blacks and three runners for the English relay team are Blacks and one white runner...
There are many Black English TV presenters,Black english cops and so on.... I believe right now,England has least whites than lacks and Muslims.

Caledonian
Friday, November 19th, 2010, 04:54 AM
Graeme Wilson, The Sun (London), Nov. 18, 2010

WHITE British people will be in a MINORITY in their own country by 2066, an expert warned last night.

David Coleman, professor of demography at Oxford University, said they will make up less than HALF the population in just over 50 years.

And soaring immigrant birthrates mean white British kids will be in a minority of youngsters in the UK even sooner. The dramatic decline will be fuelled by record-breaking levels of immigration, coupled with the departure of thousands of Brits for a better life abroad, the population analyst said.

Prof Coleman’s controversial claim will raise fresh questions about whether Britain can sustain the influx of hundreds of thousands of immigrants every year.

It comes as Home Secretary Theresa May today gets a report from the Migration Advisory Committee on what cap she should impose on migrant workers next year.

Writing in Prospect magazine, Prof Coleman warned the huge numbers of foreigners landing on our shores will “transform” the UK.

He said official projections estimate the UK’s population will rocket to 77 million by 2051—and 85 million by 2083.

The expert went on: “On those assumptions the ‘white British’ population would decline to 45 million (59 per cent of the total) by 2051.

“Were the assumptions to hold, the ‘white British’ population of Britain would become the minority after about 2066. It’s a milestone that would be passed much earlier in younger age-groups.”

He added: “The US, by comparison, is now about 65 per cent white (non-Hispanic) and that group is projected to fall to 50 per cent by 2045.”

Even if the number of immigrants was cut so that new arrivals matched the number of Brits leaving, the “white British” population would still fall below 50 per cent by the end of the century.

Prof Coleman said this would “represent an enormous change to national identity—cultural, political, economic and religious”.

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2010/11/white_britons_a.php

Matamoros
Friday, November 19th, 2010, 10:09 PM
It's a terrible situation. Our ancestors fought and died that our country might be free, but in the space of one hundred years it will be completely given away.

Hamar Fox
Friday, November 19th, 2010, 10:17 PM
coupled with the departure of thousands of Brits for a better life abroad

That's one of the (many) reasons I absolutely hate British expats. I extend them no respect whatsoever, and actually take more issue with them than with immigrants.

The Aesthete
Saturday, November 20th, 2010, 04:54 AM
I love British expats coming here, your loss is our gain I guess you could say, but it also works in reverse

I have heard British expats say they left because where they lived was inundated with racial others and it was no longer the Britain they grew up in and loved, plus we have great beaches here

Hamar Fox
Saturday, November 20th, 2010, 09:27 AM
I love British expats coming here, your loss is our gain I guess you could say, but it also works in reverse

I have heard British expats say they left because where they lived was inundated with racial others and it was no longer the Britain they grew up in and loved, plus we have great beaches here

I think Brits leaving for Australia or NZ is less of a problem. At least there's a chance that their descendants will stay ethnically British -- although, tbh, Australia's gene pool is becoming rapidly less British Isles. Among the younger generations of Aussies, I see a lot of Italian, Greek and Slavic surnames, whereas old-stock Aussies nearly always have British surnames (AFAIR, every Australian PM has a British surname). This is less true of NZ, but there there's the problem of Maori admix.

I think 'colonisation' is only tenable when the motherland is safe. When Britain & Ireland had an excess population, they could afford to lose some people. In that situation, emigrants shouldn't be considered disloyal. But when the homeland needs its natives, and they still leave, then they themsleves have contributed to the death of their own people and abandoned their own homeland.

Tbh, Brit expats who flee the country to escape non-whites/non-Brits will probably find more non-whites in Oz than they would if they moved to a rural county in Britain. NZ is worse, at only about 70% white. And what makes even less sense is emigration to places like Spain and Cyprus. The vast majority of people they meet will be foreign. Also, their children will almost definitely marry some greasy Cypriot or, while I have nothing against the Spanish, a Spaniard.

goersfour
Tuesday, November 30th, 2010, 07:39 PM
Surely people will wake up before its too late. Blacks are a plague on any country or community they go to. They are dead weight. Less brain mass, we just drag them along so it will look as though they are equal to white people, when the next revolution starts I suggest white people join together and do whatever is need to eradicate our society of these vermin.

Heinrich Harrer
Tuesday, November 30th, 2010, 08:02 PM
Did they include miscegenation in this prediction? I'm sure some statistics only count the current British/foreign birth/emigration/immigration rates without accounting for intermarriages.

With the media having removed the natural inhibitions, and with the population being ever more mixed, I'm sure it will happen even a lot earlier than 2066 if the following generations increasingly intermix. As we don't count their offspring as being part of us ethnic europeans, this will most likely take large chunks out of the shrinking white populations and increase the foreign/coloured percentage even further.

I wouldn't be surprised if this tipping point already occurs around 2030-2040 in many european nations.

genius
Tuesday, November 30th, 2010, 08:33 PM
A few things here.

One you should realize racist whites are what 5% of the population of any area maximum? Unless you go into some non-Germanic lands like Slavic.

So stop thinking of yourself as the majority and start thinking like a minority in your own land. Start organizing more like the Jews do. You should be thinking of PLEs in Britain. Because the nation is no longer English or British in the tradional sense and most British whites are no longer white. Their genes maybe but their folk is not, their culture, their people etc. mixed.

Look for people who are in your own "tribe" that is racist Germanics. And organize them into communities.

Anyway modern nationalism is not a good idea for racial survival. It is an invention that came from loyalty to kings during the high middle ages when the feudal system gave way to modern nation states.

The system I'm working on is based on restoring a healthy organization. Very similar to original Aryo-Germanic culture and similar to what Jews have today. Here is a good resource on how Germanics are organized:

http://library.thinkquest.org/04apr/00281/germans/03.html

quote:

Germanic society was broken up into tribes, which were composed of clans. The building block of the clan, in turn, was the patriarchal familial unit. In general, central government was not strong, and the clans largely enjoyed self-government, at the expense of the tribe’s governing authority. While the Germanic tribes lived off agriculture, warfare held a certain prestige in their society. A clan was responsible for the actions of its individuals, and if two individuals from different clans had a dispute, the clansmen from both sides were under obligation to support their kinsman. In this way, a mere disagreement could precipitate into a landslide of murder, where each act of violence was answered to swiftly. This sort of infighting weakened the tribe, as strong warriors invaluable to the tribe’s defence had to contend with hostility from other clans within the tribe. Blood feuds did not necessarily mean the annihilation of entire clans, however, since murder could be compensated by a payment of slaves and cattle, or wergeld. Waging war on clans of other tribes formed the basis for the circulation of wealth and power among the tribes. Victory in war brought a tribe not only the material gains from the spoils of war, but also the prestige and strong reputation that won over more clans, and thus consolidated the tribe’s position.

Different from the family-based clans, there was a warrior group within Germanic society that transcended bonds of blood, called the comitatus. The comitatus was a band of fighters that were bound by personal pledges of loyalty to a distinguished warrior-chief. In return for the loyal service of his men, a chief was to deliver victory and distribute the spoils of war. The comitatus could prove useful in war with other tribes. However, their raids were also potential sources of conflict within the tribe, as the members of the comitatus cut across the different clans in the tribe.

--end quote--

Modern individualism didn't have a place in traditional Germanic society. People defended their clan and family as if it was a part of themselves!

The word king comes from kin- family. Koenung is simply a variation of that tied to a norse story.

At any rate 2,000 years of Christianity has bred a weak slave like nationalist Germanic who clings to the nation state and his "master" for survival.

People should be able to organize into local clans- otherwise known as "kindreds" these function just like a small local church or a synagogue to Jews. The basis of Germanic society is the small group where everybody knows everybody else. These groups form alliances in larger organizations called "nations". Nations are not based on lines on a map, but rather on ethnic ties. Germanics co-habitated, allied with and traded with Celts, Slavs, etc. They didn't need big brother to protect their folk.

Heck, they even were nomadic like Jews much of the time. Nationalism stems from peasants who had to stay in one place and serve whatever master was ruling that state at the time. It's a failed ideology.

The differance was back then people were strongly rooted in their family, and extending from the family rooted in their clans. The first thing to do when enslaving a people is to break family ties. Christianity and the feudal system did this to some degree but the church took the place of the "clan" up until recently. Now that the Christian church has totally broken down and been invaded with every more absurd leadership most Germanics have nowhere to go: they are not rooted in their local community anymore and wandering around as indivdiualists hoping for the state to protect them.

Rebuild the clans. And some people say this is all an ancient religion (Asatru) or that its too "weird" or "unusual". No its not. Its the same basic structure that churches had until recently, but rather now replaced with the more empowering original ideology.

bæny
Friday, December 3rd, 2010, 10:40 AM
I read that it will be by 2050 now.

Hesse
Saturday, December 4th, 2010, 06:53 AM
I have heard British expats say they left because where they lived was inundated with racial others and it was no longer the Britain they grew up in and loved, plus we have great beaches here


I find it rather appaling when our folk feel out of place and need to depart from the country they and their ancestors have lived in for generations for centuries and that it no longer is what it historically was because it has been overpopulated with racial others who have been there for one generation or only a few years and have no ancestral, racial, or cultural connection to it whatsoever.

And when they depart, they only make the situation worse.


To say Britons are too British to live in Britian, how ironic can you get??

TrueEnglish
Saturday, December 4th, 2010, 02:51 PM
This is sick.


Did they include miscegenation in this prediction? I'm sure some statistics only count the current British/foreign birth/emigration/immigration rates without accounting for intermarriages.
Amen!


I have heard British expats say they left because where they lived was inundated with racial others and it was no longer the Britain they grew up in and loved, plus we have great beaches here

Like most things that are dieing, it's a complex process involving lots of aspects.

Countless years of TV (American hollywood brainwashing) mixed with our own natural failure and lack of resistance has got it into peoples heads that everything of our own is bad. Our weather is bad, our attitudes were bad, our lifestyles were bad, our religion was bad, and pretty much everything else that was respected in the past is all bad. Part of that is the newfound adoration for all things foreign, and extremely hot weather, "sun sea and sand" What nonsense.

Now you top that off with the secret policies and things that have been implemented politically over the last 70+ years, and you have a receipe for disaster.

An example of the average mindset; I was talking with a typical working class lad the other day about holidays and he said "but I wouldn't go anywhere in Europe, it's all the same." This is the same brainwashed self-destructive mindset that everyone has.

Caledonian
Sunday, December 5th, 2010, 11:25 AM
Did they include miscegenation in this prediction? I'm sure some statistics only count the current British/foreign birth/emigration/immigration rates without accounting for intermarriages.

With the media having removed the natural inhibitions, and with the population being ever more mixed, I'm sure it will happen even a lot earlier than 2066 if the following generations increasingly intermix. As we don't count their offspring as being part of us ethnic europeans, this will most likely take large chunks out of the shrinking white populations and increase the foreign/coloured percentage even further.

I wouldn't be surprised if this tipping point already occurs around 2030-2040 in many european nations.

Usually in racial statistics they don't include to represent miscegenation however many countries do have statistics regarding population levels of interracial relationships along with those that consider themselves biracial which for the calculating mind one might then be able to deduce statistically in ascertaining the actual percentage ratio of decline.

At any rate what you bring up is a great point in that I agree the population is declining probally faster than what the actual statistics equate.

That really goes without saying for all European nations and former European colony nations that have global immigration problems.

Meister
Monday, January 10th, 2011, 11:13 AM
I'm always sceptical about these projections. They are based on current numbers which could and will hopefully change.

If any country is on the verge of revolt it would certainly be England with the way Muslims keep destroying everything.

celticviking
Monday, January 24th, 2011, 07:55 PM
The non-white ethnic minority population at that time (1951) is unlikely to have been much greater than 20,000" (Coleman and Salt 1992)

http://books.google.com/books?id=mmaRpUa1oSoC&pg=PA505&dq&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t774323/

SaxonPagan
Monday, January 24th, 2011, 08:43 PM
I was looking into this the other day myself and I read somewhere that the UK non-White population was around 15,000 in 1931, which would be in line with the 1951 figure. I believe they were almost exclusively limited to 4 cities as well, which from memory were Liverpool, Cardiff, Hull and London (?)

... happy days! :)

Schattenjäger
Monday, January 24th, 2011, 09:08 PM
Britain as I've always knew it... but only through TV movies :thumbdown

Hamar Fox
Monday, January 24th, 2011, 09:19 PM
I was looking into this the other day myself and I read somewhere that the UK non-White population was around 15,000 in 1931, which would be in line with the 1951 figure. I believe they were almost exclusively limited to 4 cities as well, which from memory were Liverpool, Cardiff, Hull and London (?)

... happy days! :)

Yeah, there were race riots in those cities as early as the 1910's. South Shields had a few too. This was all due to them having major ports (or being the principal city in the country, in London's case). This is the main reason you'll find some odd looking people in those cities (except Hull, IMO) that you won't see elsewhere. Octoroons and such.

Hersir
Thursday, February 3rd, 2011, 08:47 PM
Children from white families are in the minority in both Birmingham and Leicester, according to researchers.

More than half of those under 16 in the cities are now from black, Asian and other ethnic communities, they believe.

White children make up 47 per cent of the population in both cities, the researchers estimate.



More http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350087/White-children-Birmingham-minority-year-immigration.html

Northern Paladin
Thursday, February 3rd, 2011, 08:56 PM
It baffles the mind that Brits seemingly fail to take notice. There are surely more of them than there are these PC mongerers, they can't punnish the entire White British population for wanting preserve their ethnic group, and wanting to reclaim what's rightfully theirs - their land, land that their ancestors claimed for millenia.

Anselm
Thursday, February 3rd, 2011, 08:59 PM
That is truly frightening.

Meister
Friday, February 4th, 2011, 11:19 AM
And I suppose the Whites will get all the benefits of being a minority group?! Yeah thought so.

Old Winter
Friday, February 4th, 2011, 11:30 AM
VYeZW-WcSlc

Jews: Jews will play a leading role in multicultural Europe.

No one can say it is a conspiracy theory anymore.

Nooitgedacht
Friday, February 4th, 2011, 12:32 PM
Our Dutch/Belgian friends may help me with this.

There was a principal in, let’s call it Holland, who separated the Dutch kids into one class and let them play separately from the Muslim kids.

Some reporter accused him of committing Apartheid. He told her that since the majority of kids in the school is Muslim, he don’t want the Dutch kids to become Muslims in class or on the school yard by association.

Since the Muslims don’t want to be Dutch, he will protect the Dutch’ness of the Dutch kids by separation.

Good on him who-ever he was. We too have to make a stand.

TrueEnglish
Friday, February 4th, 2011, 02:59 PM
It baffles the mind that Brits seemingly fail to take notice. There are surely more of them than there are these PC mongerers, they can't punnish the entire White British population for wanting preserve their ethnic group, and wanting to reclaim what's rightfully theirs - their land, land that their ancestors claimed for millenia.
Well you don't understand the culture and mentality that has led to this, because there is nothing baffling about it. PC mongers and those who tolerate them are the majority, and they are the ones in power.

As for notions of preservation... the White British population (just like with a lot of white europeans) as a majority do not care or even recognise themselves as an ethnic group or culture, so their is little chance of preserving something they don't believe in or care about.

Wynterwade
Friday, February 4th, 2011, 04:42 PM
Originally Posted by TrueEnglish
PC mongers and those who tolerate them are the majority, and they are the ones in power.

As for notions of preservation... the White British population (just like with a lot of white europeans) as a majority do not care or even recognise themselves as an ethnic group or culture, so their is little chance of preserving something they don't believe in or care about.

Look at the highest rated comments on that page.

Immigration needs to be stopped NOW.

Very scary!

Then look at the lowest rated comments.

I live in Birmingham and love it, a lot of that is down to the wonderful and vibrant mix of people we have here. I am white, soon to give birth to a mixed race baby. My midwife is black, my doctor asian, my dentist of mediterranean parentage. All these people doing a wonderful job in our health service. I also appreciate knowing when various festivals are on, like eid and diwali. And I have enjoyed meals at restaurants of all different types. Vive la difference!

Why does it matter?

I think you'd be surprised how many people want ZERO immigration (or VERY little), but are too scared to vote BNP.

Ingvaeonic
Friday, February 4th, 2011, 04:54 PM
Children from white families are in the minority in both Birmingham and Leicester, according to researchers.

More than half of those under 16 in the cities are now from black, Asian and other ethnic communities, they believe.

White children make up 47 per cent of the population in both cities, the researchers estimate.

Tragic and frightening. When are any and all of us going to wake up? What can be done to halt and reverse these appalling trends and imbalances in the Germanic nations of the West.

Stanley
Friday, February 4th, 2011, 05:12 PM
Muslims, Africans, Asians, and the like becoming more and more a part of England's home is a manifestation of peace, love, and understanding in a globalized world.

The other way around is evil colonization.

Berrocscir
Friday, February 4th, 2011, 05:12 PM
I'd go along with TrueEnglish's comments - HOWEVER - the fear factor is not as bad as it was five or ten years ago, people are being pushed mmore and more and more and more are beginning to speak out. I surprised that in my workplace for example, a lot of colleagues, when the subject is breached, show great hostility to immigration, multiculturalism and PC culture - quite openly I might add, no longer in hushed tones.

We're getting there, but that's the english way, very slowly. the situation remains very bad.

Hamar Fox
Friday, February 4th, 2011, 05:23 PM
Look at the highest rated comments on that page.

Then look at the lowest rated comments.



I think you'd be surprised how many people want ZERO immigration (or VERY little), but are too scared to vote BNP.

Exactly. It's weird to read comments from English people who have little intuitive knowledge of the English character. English people hate immigration, and foreigners in general, but we aren't a political people. We're lazy and can't really be bothered to act on our instincts. Very, very few English people of any age group are politically correct or are particularly fond of other races. Mixed couples are still the exception (outside of places like London and Birmingham at least) and will be for quite some time. English people do care, they just don't care enough to do anything about it.

Why we don't vote BNP, what with it requiring so little effort, is a valid question. It's probably because the Daily Mail and suchlike tell them the BNP is evil and 'they support Hitler!!!' and the masses are really quite incapable of critical thought. The mainstream 'right wing' press that the masses' xenophobic instincts draw them to, do nothing but badmouth the BNP, and the average Brit isn't going to bother to do his own research.

Heinrich Harrer
Friday, February 4th, 2011, 05:42 PM
Look at the highest rated comments on that page.

Then look at the lowest rated comments.

I think you'd be surprised how many people want ZERO immigration (or VERY little), but are too scared to vote BNP.

It's good to see the ratings, but I'm not sure whether they're truly representative of the average population. News reports such as this one of course circulate in forums and online communities which are against immigration, shifting the ratings in our favor.

In another article referenced in this one about the sexist comments by some sky sports reporters (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1349915/Andy-Grays-sexist-chat-Sian-Massey-left-1-7m-job-balance.html) all the PC/feminist comments have the highest ratings, while all the comments complaining about this rampant political correctness have very low ratings. And the cause is probably that this article got more attention in some feminist boards/online communities, just like the article about the demographics of Birmingham got more attention on boards like Skadi.

Ingvaeonic
Friday, February 4th, 2011, 06:23 PM
Jews: Jews will play a leading role in multicultural Europe.


No one can say it is a conspiracy theory anymore.

That's right. It's no damned theory. Jews have been instrumental in the process of the racial corruption and racial, cultural, and social disintegration of Germanic countries worldwide. The instigators and proponents of 'globalisation' and 'free trade' and the 'free-market economy' and social and economic and political 'liberalisation and liberalism' and 'privatisation and deregulation'.

Is it not noteworthy that since the end of the 1970s when 'privatisation and deregulation' and 'economic globalisation' and the 'free-market economy' became all the rage, thanks to such vocal proponents as Thatcher and Reagan, and Western countries moved away from their postwar mixed economies, that there has been an exponential decrease in the number of white couples reproducing and exponential rise in coloured immigration to, and multiculturalism in, Germanic Western countries, much more than in any previous decade, prewar or postwar. And the cry was and still is that white Germanic countries are not having enough children to sustain their economies so they must allow greater and freer immigration to their countries. Is this mere coincidence? I think not.

And who is orchestrating all this? Who else! The Jews want complete and untrammelled power and they can only get it if the Germanic peoples are so critically racially, culturally, and socially weakend that they cannot resist Jews in positions of authority and influence. And that's the way the situation is now--and it must be turned back. All Germanic countries should work out a plan to de-Judaicise/de-Zionise their governments and learning institutions and commerce and industry, and then put it into effect. The Jews can only flourish and prosper in capitalist countries where there is 'liberal democracy' and a 'free-market economy'; indeed, they much prefer economic near-anarchy. If it is not the 'free-market economy' it is through Bolshevism where they seek power; but since international Communism has collapsed, they seek greater power through capitalism and its institutions. Beware the Jews: their power and influence over Gentiles is increasing and creeping forward, often unseen and always unchecked.

Seleferth
Friday, February 4th, 2011, 09:28 PM
I'd go along with TrueEnglish's comments - HOWEVER - the fear factor is not as bad as it was five or ten years ago, people are being pushed mmore and more and more and more are beginning to speak out. I surprised that in my workplace for example, a lot of colleagues, when the subject is breached, show great hostility to immigration, multiculturalism and PC culture - quite openly I might add, no longer in hushed tones.

We're getting there, but that's the english way, very slowly. the situation remains very bad.

I so agree with these comments I just hope enough of us react before its too late.


Exactly. It's weird to read comments from English people who have little intuitive knowledge of the English character. English people hate immigration, and foreigners in general, but we aren't a political people. We're lazy and can't really be bothered to act on our instincts. Very, very few English people of any age group are politically correct or are particularly fond of other races. Mixed couples are still the exception (outside of places like London and Birmingham at least) and will be for quite some time. English people do care, they just don't care enough to do anything about it.

Why we don't vote BNP, what with it requiring so little effort, is a valid question. It's probably because the Daily Mail and suchlike tell them the BNP is evil and 'they support Hitler!!!' and the masses are really quite incapable of critical thought. The mainstream 'right wing' press that the masses' xenophobic instincts draw them to, do nothing but badmouth the BNP, and the average Brit isn't going to bother to do his own research.

Again these comments are so true.
I visited my mother the other day & when the subject of immigration came up her views suprised me. 0% immigration & send those we have here back to where the came from. My parents brought me up to be fair/honest non rascist & to live & let live. My mother is in her late 60s & my father 80 & find the amount of immigrants in their local town very intimidating & when you see the local newspaper court pages 9 in 10 cases are of foreign nationals. As they've spent their lives 'towing the line' & been good citizens they don't want to make a fuss but now the discuss it with there friends who all have the same opinions - immigrants out!!!!
Things are changing slowly ladies & gentlemen but they are changing.

BritishLad
Friday, February 4th, 2011, 10:38 PM
It baffles the mind that Brits seemingly fail to take notice. There are surely more of them than there are these PC mongerers, they can't punnish the entire White British population for wanting preserve their ethnic group, and wanting to reclaim what's rightfully theirs - their land, land that their ancestors claimed for millenia.

Exactly, if you ask me the White Liberals are even worse than the immigrants, because they're British they're traitors who try to destroy our homeland. We should have them either exiled or executed for their treason! Not only that they poison the minds of British youth with their PC tosh, making them turn against their bretheren.

Untersberger
Saturday, February 5th, 2011, 12:12 AM
England is now Reaping what it Sowed by making war with Germany in 1914 and more so by fully Declaring WW2 in 1939.

This the very intentions of the sick elites in Westminster conning their own people for their own lustful intentions..

Any sane Englishman should read the book 'The Nameless War' by former brit politician Archibald Ramsay to actually understand they are being lied to beyond comprehension re: WW2 ad its aftermath..

I have no intention to make this into a debate because there is absolutely no need .....

The Truth Always Prevails..

Mjoellnr
Saturday, February 5th, 2011, 12:32 AM
That's it, when the protestings come from Egypt to Turkey and then arrive in Europe people are gonna stop alot of compromised activity, and go nuts on the street oh yeah! :D:D

Edgard
Friday, April 22nd, 2011, 10:02 AM
“One-third of all British-born black women were reportedly married or in a long-term relationship with a white man, with the figure rising to half of all British-born black men”.

How could the British do such a thing which to quote Shakespeare is "against all rules of nature".

The change in perceptions of race relations there in the last century will see native Brits a minority unless it is changed.

The British have lost all morality and pride. Massively drunk and promiscuous. They would sleep with anything if it was not against the law and RnB makes blacks fashionable.

The majority of English women are so morally and culturally degraded I have given up on them and now only date women (European heritage) from outside the UK as a rule. I know some UK girls are still good but finding them is hard and even most of them have brains rotted out by liberal ideology.

Hamar Fox
Friday, April 22nd, 2011, 10:07 AM
The majority of English women are so morally and culturally degraded I have given up on them and now only date women (European heritage) from outside the UK as a rule. I know some UK girls are still good but finding them is hard and even most of them have brains rotted out by liberal ideology.

Another conservative male with a foreign fetish. Shocking...

Edgard
Saturday, April 23rd, 2011, 12:45 AM
Another conservative male with a foreign fetish. Shocking...

I take it by shocking you mean predictable?

Don't judge if I choose to find a girl with blond hear and blue eyes from outside the UK what is wrong with that? The truth is that the English are Germanic and this means they have more in common with a Germanic from out side the UK than with a Welsh girl for instance. Lots of girls in the UK choose to take on black morals. Why should I put up with it? I learnt the hard way that even if they are ok their friends will lead them astray so I looked elsewhere within people similar to myself. That was not a first choice but finding a good English girl proved hard for me and the ones I came across either had long term boyfriends who suited them (as I said good women) or had a attitude and outlook incomparable to mine. There are most likely really grate single girls in the UK but I didn't find any anywhere but maybe that's just where I live.

Heinrich Harrer
Saturday, April 23rd, 2011, 01:00 AM
Aren't all germanic countries in Europe more or less affected to the same degree by political correctness and liberalism? Where exactly do you look for them?

Edgard
Saturday, April 23rd, 2011, 01:18 AM
Aren't all germanic countries in Europe more or less affected to the same degree by political correctness? Where exactly do you look for them?

I take your point on that. I have found that firstly UK girls are further along the path of degradation and that secondly if you open up your hunting grounds to include all Germanic women you have a lot more choice so its win win.

Remember there are many more conservative and right wing places than England. I found mine in the UK but she was not of the UK she is Polish but clearly not Slavic she has a strong German jaw and Nordic colouration as well as blue eyes and similar looking relatives, German cousins and very conservative she also feels that people should only have children with people similar to them-self.

Before her I was involved with a girl from Germany but she was a bit liberal so I really agree the rot has settled in deep. I am thinking about settling in East-Prussia (the now Polish bit) lots of Germanic types and no political correctness yet. I don't think east Germany is so PC yet but I am not 100% on that as I only know the some people from there I haven really spent much time in the region.

Northern Paladin
Saturday, April 23rd, 2011, 03:52 AM
I wonder what sort of reaction reading an article like this engenders in regular Whites... do they think, "oh my, that will be fun, I can't wait!", or a more appropriate one such as "oh ship!, we're bloody fudged". This was in 2000, if any White person read it, you'd expect to see a huge baby boom by now. I really don't get the mentality of modern Whites.


I read that it will be by 2050 now.

Those are probably the slightly newer, slightly more accurate figures.

Edgard
Saturday, April 23rd, 2011, 09:24 AM
Sadly a lot of them are happy and think we will end up an island of people all like polynsians. They are in a brain washed state of self loathing and think its inevitable and desirable. :(

Hamar Fox
Saturday, April 23rd, 2011, 09:13 PM
I take it by shocking you mean predictable?

Don't judge if I choose to find a girl with blond hear and blue eyes from outside the UK what is wrong with that?

It depends. Lots of Eastern Europeans have blonde hair and blue eyes, but have completely foreign (often Asiatic) features. Finns are the blondest people in the world, but they also have the highest percentage of Uralic genes in Europe.

Conservative males always say, "My ethnicity's women are [something negative]; therefore I only date women who are X." Now usually that X is Mongoloid. Within the preservationist realm, it's usually Eastern Europeans (but sometimes also Mongoloid). This is something that occurs regardless of how women of their own ethnicity objectively are. They'd say it regardless, because it's a personality type, not something that hinges on objective experience. I don't consider the conservative who slanders his own race, and then helps spurt out a half chink or polak kid any more a preservationist than a liberal or wigger.


The truth is that the English are Germanic and this means they have more in common with a Germanic from out side the UK than with a Welsh girl for instance.

We're a bit of both (islander and continental). If you want to date Dutch or Danish girls, that's fine by me -- although I wouldn't endorse it en masse, since it'd lead to the death of the numerically smaller nationality. However, given the lack of genetically related continental Europeans (Danes, Dutch, Belgians, North French, North Germans) in England, I'd wager a man with a (white) foreign fetish would end up dating a Slavic girl (who are much more numerous here), and not a fellow Germanic. Of course, the Slavs are about four times more genetically different from us than are the Scots or even the Irish, and besides that have lots of Asiatic and Gypsy ancestry.


Lots of girls in the UK choose to take on black morals. Why should I put up with it? I learnt the hard way that even if they are ok their friends will lead them astray so I looked elsewhere within people similar to myself.

Do you live in SW England? I'd say wiggers, especially female ones, are nonexistent outside of SE England and the West Midlands. I live in West Yorkshire and I don't know any girls who are remotely interested in black culture. And white men with Asian women are much more common here than the black men with white women that they complain about.

I'd also add that in Germanic continental Europe, propensity to race mix is as strong as in England. So it makes no sense to reject one group you perceive as wiggers in favour of another group just as likely to be wiggers.


That was not a first choice but finding a good English girl proved hard for me and the ones I came across either had long term boyfriends who suited them (as I said good women) or had a attitude and outlook incomparable to mine. There are most likely really grate single girls in the UK but I didn't find any anywhere but maybe that's just where I live.

I know a great girl from SW England, and I've never even been! You just need to look harder.

Edit: Aha! My reasoning never fails me:


I found mine in the UK but she was not of the UK she is Polish but clearly not Slavic she has a strong German jaw and Nordic colouration as well as blue eyes and similar looking relatives, German cousins and very conservative she also feels that people should only have children with people similar to them-self.


She could easily carry recessive Asiatic genes. What if your child comes out with epicanthic folds? Can you reverse that? No, it's better not to take the risk. Poles have been exposed to way too much racial mixture ever to be confident that any given Pole is pure European, much less pure Germanic. You might claim the Poles overall are of decent racial quality, but they're obviously nowhere near the level of racial excellence to be found in Western Europe.

GrapeSoda
Saturday, April 23rd, 2011, 09:20 PM
I'm not an Englishman, but I really hope that you guys can find a way out of your mess, along with the rest of Europe. I think that a line will be drawn in the next 20 years and that a new Hitler will wreak havoc on the parasites trying to kill out the white race.

Edgard
Saturday, April 23rd, 2011, 11:38 PM
It depends. Lots of Eastern Europeans have blonde hair and blue eyes, but have completely foreign (often Asiatic) features. Finns are the blondest people in the world, but they also have the highest percentage of Uralic genes in Europe.

Conservative males always say, "My ethnicity's women are [something negative]; therefore I only date women who are X." Now usually that X is Mongoloid. Within the preservationist realm, it's usually Eastern Europeans (but sometimes also Mongoloid). This is something that occurs regardless of how women of their own ethnicity objectively are. They'd say it regardless, because it's a personality type, not something that hinges on objective experience. I don't consider the conservative who slanders his own race, and then helps spurt out a half chink or polak kid any more a preservationist than a liberal or wigger.



We're a bit of both (islander and continental). If you want to date Dutch or Danish girls, that's fine by me -- although I wouldn't endorse it en masse, since it'd lead to the death of the numerically smaller nationality. However, given the lack of genetically related continental Europeans (Danes, Dutch, Belgians, North French, North Germans) in England, I'd wager a man with a (white) foreign fetish would end up dating a Slavic girl (who are much more numerous here), and not a fellow Germanic. Of course, the Slavs are about four times more genetically different from us than are the Scots or even the Irish, and besides that have lots of Asiatic and Gypsy ancestry.



Do you live in SW England? I'd say wiggers, especially female ones, are nonexistent outside of SE England and the West Midlands. I live in West Yorkshire and I don't know any girls who are remotely interested in black culture. And white men with Asian women are much more common here than the black men with white women that they complain about.

I'd also add that in Germanic continental Europe, propensity to race mix is as strong as in England. So it makes no sense to reject one group you perceive as wiggers in favour of another group just as likely to be wiggers.



I know a great girl from SW England, and I've never even been! You just need to look harder.

Edit: Aha! My reasoning never fails me:



She could easily carry recessive Asiatic genes. What if your child comes out with epicanthic folds? Can you reverse that? No, it's better not to take the risk. Poles have been exposed to way too much racial mixture ever to be confident that any given Pole is pure European, much less pure Germanic. You might claim the Poles overall are of decent racial quality, but they're obviously nowhere near the level of racial excellence to be found in Western Europe.

I live in South England and the girls are really not that good morally or genetically, lots of imports.
I base my assessment of her race also on her relatives and a few photos I have seen. I know its not fool proof but then its the same with many English girls sadly. She has a strong sentiment for matching with someone with similar characteristics and this seems to be a family tradition. I am hoping for no Slav throw backs but I take your point but a German girl could have Slav in her from a WWII atrocity so you have to take your chances.

I think that even in Germanic lands the DNA is not as clear as you would think :( In Yorkshire things might be diffident but in the South there are fewer old families left people had to leave the country for work and got all mixed up in the cites. Anyway it is widely accepted that there is a good deal of Nordic/Baltic/Germanic blood in Poland so why cross it of the list? Its not like the Germanic peoples are not spread thin as it is. We need to gather up are kind where we find it.

Heinrich Harrer
Saturday, April 23rd, 2011, 11:46 PM
Remember there are many more conservative and right wing places than England. I found mine in the UK but she was not of the UK she is Polish but clearly not Slavic she has a strong German jaw and Nordic colouration as well as blue eyes and similar looking relatives, German cousins and very conservative she also feels that people should only have children with people similar to them-self.

You're always saying that she's 'polish' (also in the other thread) - just to clarify, does she belong to the german minority left behind in our eastern territories or is she a slavic Pole?

If I would be a german still living in a region like East/West Prussia or Silesia, I think I would be pretty pissed if others would go around and introduce me as being polish. Or was Hamar right and she's a slavic Pole with no connection to germans (other than supposedly nordid features)?

If the latter is the case, how do you want to prevent your children from being polonized if you move to a predominantly polish area to have children with a slavic polish woman?

Edgard
Sunday, April 24th, 2011, 12:20 AM
You're always saying that she's 'polish' (also in the other thread) - just to clarify, does she belong to the german minority left behind in our eastern territories or is she a slavic Pole?

If I would be a german still living in a region like East/West Prussia or Silesia, I think I would be pretty pissed if others would go around and introduce me as being polish. Or was Hamar right and she's a slavic Pole with no connection to germans (other than supposedly nordid features)?

If the latter is the case, how do you want to prevent your children from being polonized if you move to a predominantly polish area to have children with a slavic polish woman?

As I said she is Polish I would have indicated any sub groups but really not all Poles outside of a recognised minority are as Slavic as you would suggest. There are Poles who have very Slavic features and there are Poles who don't. It can be an ethnic mix but they tend to be distinct as far as facial features go not just hear and eye colour. She is Polish and as you put it has Nordic features. I don't see how you can make a clear between Polish groups minority or otherwise as there was intermixing during the last few 100 years and this mixing although spreading heavy Slavic traits it clearly also spread Germanic/Nordic traits. It seems folly to discard Germanic stock so lightly.

I didn't say I would prevent children being polonized but I do not anticipate them being of a Slavic features. In WWII Germany took custody of children with Nordic feature. Where they mistaken in their actions? If you spend time in Poland you will see that maybe 1/4 of the population are of broadly Nordic features.

http://www.docshop.com/assets/images/baby_eye_color_odds.png

Now I am not suggesting this is a good model for genetic traits but it indicates that if both parents have a strong set of characteristics children will most likely inherit them and as I know the characteristics of both sets of grandparent the chances have got to be fair that Slavic features are not a likely outcome. I also am aware of the possibility of recessive traits as in read hair but the recessive traits become apparent when matched with the same trait. As I am not in any way Slavic this should not happen.

http://www.ntsad.org/images/Transmission_of_Autosomal_Recessive_Carr ier_Traits.gif

Edgard
Sunday, April 24th, 2011, 12:49 AM
It was the already mentioned work of sociologist/economist William Z. Ripley which popularized the idea of three biological European races. Ripley borrowed Deniker's terminology of Nordic (he had previously used the term "Teuton"); his division of the European races relied on a variety of anthropometric measurements, but focused especially on their cephalic index and stature.
Compared to Deniker, Ripley advocated a simplified racial view and proposed a single Teutonic race linked to geographic areas where Nordic-like characteristics predominate, and contrasted these areas to the boundaries of two other types, Alpine and Mediterranean, thus reducing the 'caucasoid branch of humanity' to three distinct groups.[33]
By the early 20th century, Ripley's tripartite Nordic/Alpine/Mediterranean model was well established. Most nineteenth-century race-theorists like Arthur de Gobineau, Otto Ammon, Georges Vacher de Lapouge, and Houston Stewart Chamberlain preferred to speak of "Aryans," "Teutons," and "Indo-Europeans" instead of "Nordic Race". The British German racialist Houston Stewart Chamberlain, who constituted a model to proceed for Adolf Hitler, conceived the Nordic people as native Celtic and Germanic peoples, like as some Slavs. All of them are, to know, Baltic peoples, Belgians, Dutch, English, French, Germans, Irish, Poles, Scandinavians, Scots, and Welsh. Chamberlain called those people “Celt-Germanic peoples.”
Only in the 1920s did a strong partiality for "Nordic" begin to reveal itself, and for a while the term was used almost interchangeably with Aryan.[34] Later, however, Nordic would not be co-terminous with Aryan, Indo-European or Germanic.[35] For example, the later Nazi minister for Food, Richard Walther Darré, who had developed a concept of the German peasantry as Nordic race, used the term 'Aryan' to refer to the tribes of the Iranian plains.[35]
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_race)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Passing_of_the_Great_Race_-_Map_4.jpg/800px-Passing_of_the_Great_Race_-_Map_4.jpg

This seemed to better sum up the argument I was trying to put across.

Heinrich Harrer
Sunday, April 24th, 2011, 01:04 AM
I didn't say I would prevent children being polonized but I do not anticipate them being of a Slavic features.(..)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_race)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Passing_of_the_Great_Race_-_Map_4.jpg/800px-Passing_of_the_Great_Race_-_Map_4.jpg

This seemed to better sum up the argument I was trying to put across.

In that case I guess noridicism conflicts with germanic preservationism, if you prefer a slav just because he's also blond/blue eyed over a germanic - and especially because you don't seem to have a problem with your children adopting a slavic identity and being polonized (and that you don't expect them to have slavic features after having children with a slav also sounds a little strange, it's not like you could reduce it to eye and hair color).

And even if we take that map serious: What is red on that map and now a part of Poland was back then settled with 17 million germans, who have been expelled after '45 and were replaced with polish populations from predominantly green regions.

Hilderinc
Sunday, April 24th, 2011, 01:22 AM
Aren't most Poles in England of recent arrival?



Anyway it is widely accepted that there is a good deal of Nordic/Baltic/Germanic blood in Poland so why cross it of the list? Its not like the Germanic peoples are not spread thin as it is. We need to gather up are kind where we find it.

Because they are of foreign cultures and hold different tribal affinities than us? They are not our kind, and it is unacceptable to have them in our nations, and even worse to try to justify it by saying "its close enough" or "it could be worse."


Above all, Slavic, Germanic, etc. are ethno-linguistic groups (ethnic meaning genetic + cultural.) Just because they may be similar sub-racially is no justification for their absorption (which will include some elements of their culture and language) into our people.

Northern Paladin
Sunday, April 24th, 2011, 01:27 AM
I agree with you, Hilderinc.

@ Edgard, what would you consider a Slavic feature? Dinaricism? Mongolism? Remember "Slavic" is not a race or sub-race, it's a meta-ethnicity that shares most of its sub-racial elements with Celts and Germanics. If you find a Nordish Polish girl, how can you know for sure that she is not pure-Slavic? More likely than not, she is, either Slavic or part-Baltic. Not all Nordish peoples are Germanic and not all Germanics are Nordish. Slavs and Germanics are intimately linked by a common ancient ancestry, hence the common sub-racial elements. The Slavs have mixed with less-desirables, and have practiced disgenics over many centuries - that's the only genetic difference between the two tribes. Though I command you for making an effort at preserving Nordish racial identity, I must say Germanic + Slavic is not the idea, Germanic + Germanic is.

Did she mention that she has any German/Germanic ancestry? Is her surname Germanic? etc...

Edgard
Sunday, April 24th, 2011, 02:01 AM
In that case I guess noridicism conflicts with germanic preservationism, if you prefer a slav just because he's also blond/blue eyed over a germanic - and especially because you don't seem to have a problem with your children adopting a slavic identity and being polonized (and that you don't expect them to have slavic features after having children with a slav also sounds a little strange, it's not like you could reduce it to eye and hair color).

And even if we take that map serious: What is red on that map and now a part of Poland was back then settled with 17 million germans, who have been expelled after '45 and were replaced with polish populations from predominantly green regions.

I agree about the predominate replacement of German speaking groups but not all people of German decent had retained a strong German identity and much German blood would still be in Poland even with the expulsions.

I guess what I was saying about Slavic features was imprecise. I do not make to much of a distinction between Nordic and Germanic where it comes to my preference although I think my partner would be partly Germanic if a DNA test were to be done as her jaw looks more German than Slav, although I could be wrong. She has also lived in England and Germany and is always taken for a local until she speaks. She is very good at languages but the accent is still there.

Furthermore I do not mind Western-Slavic with Nordic features however there are Slavic groups that have much darker eastern features which I would prefer to avoid.

The eye colour chart was a basic model for a wider principle on hereditary feathers.

I do not feel Germanic stock is adversely effected by Nordic influences and it has been effected by Nordic cross pollination for some length of time at least within wider Germanic lands. My initial point going way back is a Nordic Polish girl is more Germanic than a Mediterranean heritage Celtic Welsh women.

As for identity my children if I have any I will keep a English identity as I will bring them up to value it. Although I have no problem with them speaking Polish as a additional language and being aware of their Polish roots as I quite like the Poles.

I think in Germany you don't know how bad it has become in the south of England as far as identity among the young. They have very few Anglo Saxon cultural links and settling down with a local girl would not help this as they haven't got a clue. Some of them now talk like blacks and not just for show but as their only means of communication.

Perhaps you assertion that my pro Nordic feeling effect my Pan-Germanic ideals is true. I will keep that in mind when considering my life style as I remain determined to preserving the Pan-Germanic cultures and peoples I value. :) Thanks for your continued input.

I tend to fight the corner of the Polish as I feel that they have got a bad press in recent times and that many seen outside of Poland are not representative of all the Polish.

Accusations that I have a thing for foreign women are true to an extent. However it suits my needs as the south of England is an increasingly hostile environment.

Edgard
Sunday, April 24th, 2011, 02:07 AM
I agree with you, Hilderinc.

@ Edgard, what would you consider a Slavic feature? Dinaricism? Mongolism? Remember "Slavic" is not a race or sub-race, it's a meta-ethnicity that shares most of its sub-racial elements with Celts and Germanics. If you find a Nordish Polish girl, how can you know for sure that she is not pure-Slavic? More likely than not, she is, either Slavic or part-Baltic. Not all Nordish peoples are Germanic and not all Germanics are Nordish. Slavs and Germanics are intimately linked by a common ancient ancestry, hence the common sub-racial elements. The Slavs have mixed with less-desirables, and have practiced disgenics over many centuries - that's the only genetic difference between the two tribes. Though I command you for making an effort at preserving Nordish racial identity, I must say Germanic + Slavic is not the idea, Germanic + Germanic is.

Did she mention that she has any German/Germanic ancestry? Is her surname Germanic? etc...

No German name but an aristocratic Polish name. I do take your point and respect it as the ideal. Still she seems to have non of the less desirable traits you mention although as you say I can not be sure short of a DNA test.

Caledonian
Sunday, April 24th, 2011, 02:09 AM
It's time for anarchy and rioting in the UK. Who's with me? ;)

Seriously if anything went down in England or Scotland nationally I would totally get a one way ticket over there in order to not miss out in any of the fun. :D

[To hell with international immigration laws. Loyalty to one's ancestral lands first and foremost.]

Hamar Fox
Sunday, April 24th, 2011, 09:48 AM
It's ironic, because I've never met a Pole who isn't a nigger-lover, and Polish women (with access to black men) are far more likely to race-mix than are English girls.

Edgard
Sunday, April 24th, 2011, 11:42 AM
It's ironic, because I've never met a Pole who isn't a nigger-lover, and Polish women (with access to black men) are far more likely to race-mix than are English girls.

Most of the Poles we get in the UK are peasant stock and are like the equivalent of are chavs. Even other Polish look down on them they call them beetroots. Some Polish girls go for blacks, most would not in Poland. Blacks get beaten up all the time in Poland there is little love for them.

And really I do appreciated your point about looking for an English girl. I hadn't really though about the issue much in that way, almost everyone in the South is madly liberal at least in the middle class.

Visit the South and see what its like and you will realise why in the South people with values avoid most of the other English, it is amazingly decadent. Stand outside an RnB club and watch who go in. Who are the men who are the women?

Juthunge
Sunday, April 24th, 2011, 12:13 PM
As for identity my children if I have any I will keep a English identity as I will bring them up to value it. Although I have no problem with them speaking Polish as a additional language and being aware of their Polish roots as I quite like the Poles.

I think in Germany you don't know how bad it has become in the south of England as far as identity among the young. They have very few Anglo Saxon cultural links and settling down with a local girl would not help this as they haven't got a clue. Some of them now talk like blacks and not just for show but as their only means of communication.


And in what way are you better than them when you choose a Polish woman and teach your children Polish culture in England?
I'm pretty sure she hasn't got more knowledge about the Anglo-Saxon culture and mindset than your local girls either.

And if you think it's not as bad here in Germany you're mistaken, it's probably even worse.
But there are always decent local women around.
Maybe they're not perfect but I'd choose them over Polish or whatever women any day.

On an additional note people should finally stop acting like any roughly Nordish individual in this world has to has Germanic ancestors, it's simply not true.

Berrocscir
Monday, April 25th, 2011, 03:45 PM
Slightly off topic this, but I did have to laugh when listening to a Radio 5 Live report on the recent 'riot' in Bristol: an interviewee mentioned "...well it's a very volatile area - richly diverse..." :D

OnePercent
Tuesday, April 26th, 2011, 02:43 AM
For the record, I doubt very much that the UK will ever have a white minority. Long before that will happen the US will have become a white-minority (approximately 2050) and this inevitably going to result in our collapse. In the aftermath, with the US miscegnation-enforcers out of the way, White countries are going to carefully reconsider their policies. When that happens I expect to see a mass forced-exodus of non Europeans from the continent. Of course, a great deal of damage will have been done to the gene pool from decades of traitorous anti-white policy by then, but in the end I think a new Aryan pride will arise.

I am not so confident about the fate of whites over here in the New World though. I think our best hope is that we will be able to carve out new White states in the rural areas among the ruins of the USA, but even then we will be pretty well cut-off from our brethren in Europe, and if things are half as bad as I expect them to get, the Europeans won't be in much of a position to assist us.

Fyrgenholt
Tuesday, April 26th, 2011, 10:15 AM
England, Britain by and large infact, is increasingly hellbent on it's own destruction.

Concrete slabs, cracked and ugly, cover what was once expansive forest. Barbed wire fences with plastic bags stuck upon them, surrounded at the foot by rusting cans of Coca-Cola and cigarette stumps protect decaying old factories of corregated iron and smashed windows. Our people are growingly loud, obnoxious, self-obsorbed and terrifically materialistic. Topshop and fashion magazines teaching people to look how they want them to and act how they tell them to are more important to our nation than is health, wisdom and pride. Weed provides people with the happiness that they cannot find by any other means in their smog drowned urban ant hills.

This is because there is too many of us. And it makes me so fucking angry.

We can stop immigration and enforce further measures to ensure that 'whites' do not become a minority in future years, but that would not be the end of our problems at all. There would still be 60,000,000 of us living here and this is more than a humanistic cultural and racial dilema; it's an environmental and ecological one too, with further implications.

For things to change, properly, absolute and dramatic change is needed, and it has to occur in a manner that is sustainable. Sadly I don't think that is going to happen without a complete and utter shock to our entire late-modern system.

Let's not forget our green and rolling hills of the south, our countries forests and lakes and the moorlands and rocky, tough and windswept mountains of the north. If we're not careful, these places will be consumed too by death and decay and when that happens our country will be a walking corpse, if not dead and buried.

englandawake
Sunday, May 15th, 2011, 09:03 PM
Enoch was right, but the problem is he made that speech in 1979 and still not a single drop of blood has run through the streets. Will it ever happen? We are spiraling down and being crippled by communism and political correctness so it won't, our only hope is to all move to safer areas across Europe where there is a larger majority of whites.

celticviking
Saturday, June 4th, 2011, 04:30 PM
Children from white families are in the minority in both Birmingham and Leicester, according to researchers.
More than half of those under 16 in the cities are now from black, Asian and other ethnic communities, they believe.
White children make up 47 per cent of the population in both cities, the researchers estimate.
The figures, which are expected to be confirmed by this year’s census, mean that for the first time white children are a minority group, although they are the biggest single ethnic group.
A report on Birmingham suggests that the figures could be explained by a younger population, more white families moving out of the city, and immigration.
The report estimates that in 2006, 53 per cent of children under 16 in Birmingham - Britain’s second biggest city - were from white families.
It also forecast that the proportion of children aged under 16 who are from ethnic minorities will rise to about 64 per cent by 2026, while the proportion of children from white families will be 36 per cent.
In Leicester it is predicted that children from white families will make up 31.8 per cent of under 16s by 2026.

The predictions are contained in reports by the Cathie Marsh Institute at the University of Manchester. The Birmingham report was commissioned by Birmingham City Council while the Leicester estimates are from a student’s dissertation.
At the time of the last census in 2001, 70.4 per cent of Birmingham’s population of all age ranges was white and 29.6 per cent from a variety of ethnic backgrounds, dominated by those with Asian, Caribbean and African origins.
It is predicted that by 2024 no ethnic group will form a majority. At present the total population of the city is just over one million.
In Leicester, white British people made up 60.54 per cent of the population at the time of the 2001 census
According to the University of Manchester predictions, Leicester will become Britain’s first city where no ethnic group forms a majority in about 2019. Leicester’s population at present is more than 300,000.

Professor Ludi Simpson, who led the research team, said: ‘In Leicester and Birmingham, the white group will remain the largest by far – though it will not account for a majority of the population as a whole.
‘These and most other cities are already diverse with many different ethnic minorities.
‘Indeed it is indisputable that whether the whole of Britain or its city districts are considered, there will be more cultures represented in more equal numbers than in the past.’
The findings for Birmingham chime with Department for Education figures released last January.
They showed that 43 per cent of children at Birmingham’s primary and secondary schools were white. Out of 148,900 pupils attending council-run schools, 63,800 were white.
The 2011 census is being conducted in March, when 25million households across England and Wales will be required by law to answer a range of questions including who is registered as living at a property, their age, their education and their ethnicity.
The results, the first official figures since 2001, will be announced later this year.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350087/White-children-Birmingham-minority-year-immigration.html


OMG, I had no idea it had become THAT bad in our country. We don't really want all these immigrants here. Our ancestors will be turning intheir graves at the way we have let them down and ruined this once, green and pleasant, land.
- Andy, Lincs, 25/1/2011 09:50

The Aesthete
Saturday, June 4th, 2011, 04:39 PM
:~(

Devils__Advocate
Saturday, June 4th, 2011, 04:47 PM
Professor Ludi Simpson, who led the research team, said: ‘In Leicester and Birmingham, the white group will remain the largest by far – though it will not account for a majority of the population as a whole.

Does that make sense to anyone else?

Hamar Fox
Saturday, June 4th, 2011, 04:49 PM
Does that make sense to anyone else?

It makes sense to me.

The Aesthete
Saturday, June 4th, 2011, 04:59 PM
He is trying to make things sound not so bad

Feverfew
Saturday, June 4th, 2011, 05:16 PM
Does that make sense to anyone else?

Yes. You can be the largest group and still be a minority.

For example:

White British - 48%
Non White immigrants - 52%
(composed of 10 different ethnic groups)

In this example White British is the largest ethnic group out of 11, but is the minority group when all the other immigrants are added together.


This is very depressing. I used to live in Leicester (not that far from Birmingham), where the white British were already the minority group. Walking around the town centre was like walking around Calcutta. Indians everywhere.

Devils__Advocate
Saturday, June 4th, 2011, 06:03 PM
Yes. You can be the largest group and still be a minority.

For example:

White British - 48%
Non White immigrants - 52%
(composed of 10 different ethnic groups)

In this example White British is the largest ethnic group out of 11, but is the minority group when all the other immigrants are added together.

Thank you. I hadn't thought of it in that sense as I had presumed the study had identified the separate ethnicities rather than lumping it together in the total.

Hamar Fox
Saturday, June 4th, 2011, 06:45 PM
Thank you. I hadn't thought of it in that sense as I had presumed the study had identified the separate ethnicities rather than lumping it together in the total.

Should have been obvious to anyone with a primary school education.

Devils__Advocate
Saturday, June 4th, 2011, 10:30 PM
You're starting to sound as if my opinions are affecting you emotionally, Hamar.
It is only the internet. If you can't abide by people holding definitions different to yourself and applying them to you in a fashion which unintentionally "irritates" and causes you absence of manners, then perhaps you may wish to indulge in a less conflicting atmosphere.

I wasn't aware that the study was totalling black v white otherwise I wouldn't have been confused. As much as I respect the Americans and other colonials, the term 'white' is alien to me and is not one I find logically apt, as was the case of today.

As I said, take a rest, Hamar. Come back with some manners. :)

Hamar Fox
Saturday, June 4th, 2011, 11:13 PM
You're starting to sound as if my opinions are affecting you emotionally, Hamar.
It is only the internet. If you can't abide by people holding definitions different to yourself and applying them to you in a fashion which unintentionally "irritates" and causes you absence of manners, then perhaps you may wish to indulge in a less conflicting atmosphere.

I wasn't aware that the study was totalling black v white otherwise I wouldn't have been confused. As much as I respect the Americans and other colonials, the term 'white' is alien to me and is not one I find logically apt, as was the case of today.

As I said, take a rest, Hamar. Come back with some manners. :)

Why should I take to heart the opinions of someone who can't even solve a basic mathematical problem?

Northern Paladin
Sunday, June 5th, 2011, 03:39 AM
Does that make sense to anyone else?

Ger, ger, GERRR...

It means the Whites might be at around 20%, the Pakis at around 19% Negroes at around 18% Indians at around 17% etc etc...

Translation, Whites will be a minority.

celticviking
Monday, June 27th, 2011, 12:58 PM
Runaway migration will drive the UK population above 70million in 15 years – three years earlier than previously predicted.
In 2009 official estimates predicted it would take 20 years to reach this landmark level, a figure the Prime Minister has said the nation must not reach.
But the latest calculation suggests it could hit 70.4million in 2026, placing huge pressure on public services and housing.

It assumes net migration - the difference between numbers arriving and leaving - remained around its current record level of 240,000 a year

Ministers pledged to cut it to the 'tens of thousands' by 2015.
Two-thirds of the population rise is due to immigration, including an 'immigrant baby boom' caused by higher-than-average birth rates among migrant mothers.
Commentators said the analysis shows the 'absolute necessity' of cutting the number of migrants coming here.
It shows the population, now thought to be around 62.8million, will rise to 65million in 2016, 67million in 2020 and 69million in 2024.
The vast majority of the population increase would be in England.
Today's figures show that even if net migration fell to an average of 180,000 a year, the population will hit 70million in 2029.
Immigration Minister Damian Green insisted net migration would fall to below 100,000 a year.
'We are fixing the broken immigration system.
'Our reforms will bring net migration down to the tens of thousands.'



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2008489/Population-UK-hit-70m-earlier-feared.html

Ingvaeonic
Monday, June 27th, 2011, 01:30 PM
Runaway migration is right. The browns and blacks are moving in and the whites are moving out. I hate to think what Britain will look like in 20 years' time.

SaxonPagan
Monday, June 27th, 2011, 01:31 PM
We already have a population of around 80 million!

Ingvaeonic
Monday, June 27th, 2011, 01:34 PM
We already have a population of around 80 million!

Either the Daily Mail has buggered up the figures or they are hopelessly misinformed.

SaxonPagan
Monday, June 27th, 2011, 01:35 PM
Neither!

They just lie :|

SaxonPagan
Monday, June 27th, 2011, 01:50 PM
If I had more time I'd tell you about the 1981 census and how I know that the figures are meaningless (I wrote about it on here when I first arrived, some 2,000 posts ago!)

I know for a fact that they've been tampered with even more since then and I might elaborate further later on, but here's a link to be going on with in the meantime ...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/comment/city-eye-facts-on-a-plate-our-population-is-at-least-77-million-395428.html

... and that's a mainstream source! Here is a less mainstream one ...

http://centurean2.wordpress.com/2009/03/12/unnotorious-liars-the-uk-population-was-80-million-plus-in-2007-fact-who-counts-for-the-un-pray-tell/

Black Talon
Tuesday, August 23rd, 2011, 09:34 PM
My grandfather served with the RCAF, representing my country in England during the Second World War. He loved England and the English and told me that there would 'Always be an England'.

I believed that when he first told me that years back, and I believe it now. The English only appear mild mannered on the outside - get them riled up and it is like awakening a very angry bear.

I think that many of the foreign invaders and the traitors who allowed them access are about to get a good bear-mauling in the near future.

Glory Britannia!

TrueEnglish
Wednesday, August 24th, 2011, 10:37 AM
It's time for anarchy and rioting in the UK. Who's with me? ;)
:D Nice prediction

Huginnsanvil
Wednesday, August 24th, 2011, 01:46 PM
Visit the South and see what its like and you will realise why in the South people with values avoid most of the other English, it is amazingly decadent. Stand outside an RnB club and watch who go in. Who are the men who are the women?

Thanks the Gods here in the North you can yet experience something of England. The St George is not a byword for bigot, casting no shadow on the house that flies it and it is commonly flown. Flashing off a sense of Englishness is no more out of the ordinary than taking a leek. There's nothing political about it either. It's entirely personal. A mind fart almost. Nor does it go against you whether in the street or the home to speak truly about this multi kulti hell that is being forced upon us. I've had such conversations whilst buying milk from the newsagent. Ethnics here are very much in the minority and somewhat out of place if seen around the heart and organs of the local communities. They are more a High Street phenomenon or social housing project one. Traditionally we've been the poor relations of the wealthy South but this has to an extant saved us from their own smug middle class anti Englishness. I'm not speaking of the layman now for he has borne the brunt of this alien and 'moneyed' experiment on behalf of Britain's new owners.

George Orwell wrote an interesting essay on Englishness and made some sharp observations.



England is perhaps the only great country whose intellectuals are ashamed of their own nationality. In left-wing circles it is always felt that there is something slightly disgraceful in being an Englishman and that it is a duty to snigger at every English institution, from horse racing to suet puddings. It is a strange fact, but it is unquestionably true that almost any English intellectual would feel more ashamed of standing to attention during God save the King than of stealing from a poor box. All through the critical years many left-wingers were chipping away at English morale, trying to spread an outlook that was sometimes squashily pacifist, sometimes violently pro-Russian, but always anti-British.


Since those days Globalisation has become the new 4th international vehicle for Trotskism and Communism's true colours are on show. Better call it 'communitarianism' these days. 'Equality but with some being more equal than others' to paraphrase Orwell. International banking is a very Jewish affair. I'm not anti semitic per se but this is a fact. They donate a lot of money to political parties and to Israel and they're going to pay for the kind of societies that suit them best - though greed is not in itself exclusively Jewish and this Zionist elite are not all to blame but I wish this problem could be addressed alongside a corrupt ruling elite who is no more loyal to a concept of England or Englishness or English folk than their Jewish friends (Lord Lester) and Black friends (Trevor Philips) and Asian friends (Yasmin Alibaba Brown)

This is a battle financially we may not win unless everybody withdrew all their cash from the bank in protest simultaneously and went back to protected barter systems with 'our own.' Semantically and to a degree politically we can really f''#k them up. Just refuse to deny yourself freedom of speech, to employ whom you want, think what you want, chose what you do and whom you do it with (or to) etc etc. Say no! No to multi culture. No to the maggots nibbling us from the insides out. Challenge the propaganda in schools and on TV and wherever you can. Give a bit of time to our own. Flout the rules and everything will fall because the majority of folk in this country all feel the same way about it. Know what's English and why it's so. These are things which can never be claimed by the maggots and that's why they're trying to do away with them. In schools ... anywhere ya go. Divvn't let it happen.

Thorbrand
Wednesday, August 24th, 2011, 02:13 PM
On my last visit to London (January 2011) I felt as if I was in a foreign capital - I also doubt that it is in any way comparable to anything that has happened to the city in the last 300 years (despite the oft repeated mantra of the benefits of waves of immigrants to these shores and the capital in particular). This is only a non-scientific (!) observation from a short visit to the capital (and a personally-based comparison to previous years visits) but tourists excluded, it appeared that all services (hotels, waiters, taxis, stallholders, etc.) that I encountered were predominantly foreign (i.e. not UK born, never mind their ethnic origin). Now as an 'international capital', London may well be cited as an anomaly in the UK but statistics from other UK cities indicate otherwise. Prime examples are Birmingham and Leicester. So the trend of the 'econo-society' becomes the imperative over community and community continues to wither and die. We need a smaller society, a much-reduced population, decentralised government and the abandonment of international finance capitalism which is the progenitor of these 'swamping' trends to destabilise, dilute and thus control.

Varangian
Sunday, September 4th, 2011, 10:14 PM
On my last visit to London (January 2011) I felt as if I was in a foreign capital - I also doubt that it is in any way comparable to anything that has happened to the city in the last 300 years (despite the oft repeated mantra of the benefits of waves of immigrants to these shores and the capital in particular). This is only a non-scientific (!) observation from a short visit to the capital (and a personally-based comparison to previous years visits) but tourists excluded, it appeared that all services (hotels, waiters, taxis, stallholders, etc.) that I encountered were predominantly foreign (i.e. not UK born, never mind their ethnic origin). Now as an 'international capital', London may well be cited as an anomaly in the UK but statistics from other UK cities indicate otherwise. Prime examples are Birmingham and Leicester. So the trend of the 'econo-society' becomes the imperative over community and community continues to wither and die. We need a smaller society, a much-reduced population, decentralised government and the abandonment of international finance capitalism which is the progenitor of these 'swamping' trends to destabilise, dilute and thus control.

I had the same experience last year. Anglo-Saxon faces were far and few; the percentage of muslims and blacks and asians was overwhelming. Though I'm not English by blood, I just felt extremely depressed at what is being done to a once-proud, Germanic land.

celticviking
Thursday, November 17th, 2011, 02:52 PM
White British pupils have become a minority in many secondary schools in England, according to a study.

The research found that the number of ethnic minority pupils has sharply risen by 57 per cent in ten years.

In some areas, including inner London boroughs, up to 67 per cent – just over two thirds – are from ethnic minorities.

In some individual secondary schools, the figure rises to 98 per cent of pupils, said the survey by King’s College London. The trend is seen right across England, showing that ethnic minority families are moving out of town centres to the suburbs.

Professor Chris Hamnett, a geographer who conducted the study, said the increase is not due to children who have recently arrived but pupils who were born in England.

He said patterns of birth rates indicate that the proportion of ethnic minority pupils will continue to increase in future decades. Such changes have become a lasting feature of the ethnic make-up of England’s population, added the professor.

He said his data reveals a ‘very substantial’ shift in the population, representing an ‘irrevocable’ change.

The study examined the changing demographics of schools from 1999 to 2009 following decades of migration to this country.

The 57 per cent increase in ethnic minority pupils came as the overall secondary school population rose 4.7 per cent.

There has also been a slight decline in the number of white pupils, a figure which also includes migrants from Eastern Europe.

Across the country, the proportion of ethnic minority pupils has risen in a decade from 11.5 per cent to 17 per cent.

Professor Hamnett forecasts that it is set to continue increasing to 20 per cent. He found that London has the highest proportion of ethnic minority pupils at 67 per cent.

The capital was followed by Slough with 64 per cent, Leicester at 58 per cent, Birmingham at 52 per cent and Luton with 51 per cent. Manchester and Bradford both have 43 per cent.
There are also wide differences in the ethnic breakdowns of schools in different parts of the country.

In places such as Knowsley, near Liverpool, Cumbria and Durham, fewer than two per cent of secondary pupils are from ethnic minorities.

In the London boroughs of Brent, Tower Hamlets and Newham, the figure is above 80 per cent.

In primary schools, the government’s annual school census this year showed that 862,735 children, more than a quarter of pupils, are from an ethnic minority. The figure is up from 22 per cent in 2007.

When Labour took power in 1997, the total was 380,954. In Newham, only eight per cent of primary pupils are from a white British background.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2062317/Number-black-Asian-children-London-schools-overtakes-white-pupils-time.html

celticviking
Thursday, February 23rd, 2012, 01:25 AM
Nearly two thirds of the babies born in London have at least one parent who was born abroad, according to figures released yesterday.
They show that 64.7 per cent of children born in the capital in 2010 had an immigrant mother or father.
In two districts – Newham, in East London, and Westminster – more than eight out of ten babies had at least one parent born abroad.

Read more here
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2104660/Two-London-babies-parent-abroad.html

VedicViking
Friday, March 2nd, 2012, 07:53 PM
Two in three London babies have at least one parent born abroad as ministers pledge to end era of multiculturalism
Won’t work. Diversity and trust within communities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_D._Putnam#Diversity_and_trust_wit hin_communities).

And here’s one for you all to bookmark. It shows exactly how serious this is getting.

One fifth of children from ethnic minorities (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1564365/One-fifth-of-children-from-ethnic-minorities.html)

SaxonPagan
Friday, March 2nd, 2012, 08:12 PM
In some individual secondary schools, the figure rises to 98 per cent of pupils, said the survey by King’s College London.

I could immediately name 6 secondary schools in Leicester where White British kids are under 5% of the total, and the situation in primary schools is even worse!

I don't think anyone quite realises the seriousness of this :|

Unity Mitford
Friday, March 2nd, 2012, 08:21 PM
I could immediately name 6 secondary schools in Leicester where White British kids are under 5% of the total, and the situation in primary schools is even worse!

I don't think anyone quite realises the seriousness of this :|

I say this kind of thing to Multiculturalists but the fact is THEY DO NOT CARE. They do not care about the welfare of anyone other than themselves.

RoyBatty
Friday, March 2nd, 2012, 08:23 PM
I could immediately name 6 secondary schools in Leicester where White British kids are under 5% of the total, and the situation in primary schools is even worse!

I don't think anyone quite realises the seriousness of this :|

A local newspaper in Belgium this week proclaimed that something like 40% of kids in the region (can't remember exactly what region) spoke a foreign "home language". A friend of mine there figured it was more like 60%.

Either way, I don't think anyone there quite realises how serious it has become there either. The cities are basically swamped with immigrants and this is no exaggeration.

Gewitterwolke
Friday, March 2nd, 2012, 08:48 PM
I used to say jokingly that real White Americans (Germanic Americans, particularly those of English ancestry) are the smallest minority in the US. Now I see that the same will be true in England, perhaps even to a larger extent.

If this stunningly negligible White youth population includes Eastern Europeans then we are really in trouble.

Mallory
Friday, March 2nd, 2012, 08:59 PM
That's a very important factor to consider, as they always classify Slavs as "white". There's no such thing as a white race, Slavs have zero in common with Germanic English, German or Nordic.

Gewitterwolke
Friday, March 2nd, 2012, 09:14 PM
That's a very important factor to consider, as they always classify Slavs as "white". There's no such thing as a white race, Slavs have zero in common with Germanic English, German or Nordic.

I agree. We are unique in our approach to threats, but this threat has been hovering over our heads and actually doing irreparable harm to us for way too long with our having done absolutely nothing to curtail it. I think we are unique in many respects, Mallory, and one such unique trait is our unrivaled capacity for compassion, which has been turned on us by our hidden enemy (the invisible empire) to make us virulently racist against our own kith and kin. What ever happens, the brainwashed Germanic will always be our most formidable foe. The invisible empire is far too small to be a threat on its own. They rely on the braiwashed Germanic to do all their dirty work.

Thorbrand
Friday, March 2nd, 2012, 09:58 PM
:fcloud:


Originally posted by RoyBatty
Either way, I don't think anyone there quite realises how serious it has become there either. The cities are basically swamped with immigrants and this is no exaggeration.

and that is the trouble it feels like a slow but creeping tide, a drowning tide. Before you know it the water is over your head and there's no way back. All the certainties of what we think Britain is, are washed away, irretrievably. The statistics are there, the visual evidence is there, but the reaction, the awareness is absent.

Sawyer
Thursday, April 12th, 2012, 12:18 PM
That's a very important factor to consider, as they always classify Slavs as "white". There's no such thing as a white race, Slavs have zero in common with Germanic English, German or Nordic.

Look on the bright side though, without entering into specific details (probably illegal to say certain things) I can assure everyone our Germanic blood is not only far superior to all these aliens, we also have the ability for "controlled violence". That means we can eliminate undesirables in an orderly fashion, even if we're outnumbered within our lands. We're better than the untermensch, so I don't fear those numbers.

The "White race" is a colonial construct. Ridiculous things like "White Nationalism" accept any indo-European people. It is the worst thing for these "WN" Americans to want Slavs and any other compromised group of people from Europe into America.

Madison Grant was right!

White unity is a stupid idea. How the hell are those dimwitted barbarian slavs similar to me? My people built their whole damn country, everything east of the Oder-Niesse would be like Mongolia if it weren't for our people.

The champions of civilisation in the East, the Teutonics, built everything in those regions (plus all of the other German settlers separate from the Order). The Volga Germans, the (ethnic German) nobility of Russia, and the ethnic German Tsars, made the Russian Empire great.

You know what is damn funny? Russia has only been great twice; once under German leadership, and the next time under Jewish leadership!

I don't know how receptive the people are on this forum are to pan-Deutschers, but I believe once we reunite Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Liechtenstein, Luxemburg, the Netherlands and Belgium (I would stretch to include Scandinavia) into One Nation once again, we can then launch the final, conclusive Drang nach Osten.

gormsgast
Saturday, April 14th, 2012, 08:54 AM
I used to say jokingly that real White Americans (Germanic Americans, particularly those of English ancestry) are the smallest minority in the US. Now I see that the same will be true in England, perhaps even to a larger extent.

If this stunningly negligible White youth population includes Eastern Europeans then we are really in trouble.

There was an article in a newspaper, "Daily Mail" I think? that highlighted the issue of the breakdown of the various races that make up America. It stated that Irish was the biggest racial element in America....later disproved as a lot of Americans jumped on the Celtic bandwagon even though they had no connection in any way with Ireland. So, from a white perspective, it was claimed that Germans were a predominate proportion of White America, however it was later found that English was actually a higher proportion than admitted due to the fact that they just call themselves "American" in the census. Almost all of Americans of English ancestry don't use the term...... ie' Irish/Italian/Afro/German/ American, they just emigrated and took on the mantle of being an American and not using a prefix like most of the others I highlighted. Something that annoys me to this day is why do many Americans constantly refer to themselves with the prefix even if their Families have been there for generations. It's more than OK to recognise where your roots lie, but to emigrate to another Country wherever it may be and after a few generations keep using a prefix to your adopted Country seems a little odd to me.

hyidi
Saturday, April 14th, 2012, 11:57 AM
The way England going at the moment' her death is unavoidable.

Nebelwerfer
Thursday, April 19th, 2012, 09:32 PM
The way England going at the moment' her death is unavoidable.

In your dreams. A third world eutopian fantasy will never dominate us.

hyidi
Friday, April 20th, 2012, 04:27 AM
In your dreams. A third world eutopian fantasy will never dominate us.I sure hope not!

Britain today has more 3rd world people than white native British, they could easily over run the remainder native British population. Blacks had already run riots and trashed Britain like she does not mean a god dammed thing. Blacks called racists as soon as something don't go there way and they get want they want. When the white native British stand up and beat their chest the British police and government protect the negro problem.

Edgard
Friday, April 20th, 2012, 01:39 PM
I sure hope not!

Britain today has more 3rd world people than white native British, they could easily over run the remainder native British population. Blacks had already run riots and trashed Britain like she does not mean a god dammed thing. Blacks called racists as soon as something don't go there way and they get want they want. When the white native British stand up and beat their chest the British police and government protect the nigger problem.

I think there are still more of us than third worlders but as the balance shifts we can only hope people see the danger. Sadly most people seem to stupid or indoctrinated to realise what the demographic trends mean for the UK.

I have to say that the fight is on and the longer our political call repress the argument sadly the more violent the readjustment will be :~(

hyidi
Saturday, April 21st, 2012, 11:55 AM
Edgard- I checked Jew-tube and some British suburbs are entirely NIGGER BLACK! and full of other mutts.

AND check the heading of this thread,Whites British are the minority in British schools.

This means the majority aging British population Is native white but the young population of Britain Is majority of non-white 3rd worlders. Soon to be, native white britsh population dieing of old age being replace only with black darker 3rd world mutts.

I have a soft spot for Britain because my father Is British that migrated to Australia. I have British relatives. I feel I am apart of Britain and the British people. The whole crises In every white nation Is breaking my heart.

Linden
Saturday, April 21st, 2012, 12:41 PM
AND check the heading of this thread,Whites British are the minority in British schools.

'White British Pupils Have Become a Minority in Many Secondary Schools in England'.

There are a number of London boroughs which are predominantly populated by Afro-Caribbean and South Asian immigrants, though this is not a true reflection of the nation of a whole (or indeed London). I attend a school which caters for roughly 550 students, between 15-20 of whom have complete or significant foreign ancestry. We are quite clearly the majority here. The same is to be said for every school in my locality.

The cities of Birmingham, Bradford, Leicester, London, Luton and Slough are known for being immigrant 'hotspots'. These cities may be overridden, but England is still largely populated by English people.

Sawyer
Saturday, April 21st, 2012, 02:12 PM
'White British Pupils Have Become a Minority in Many Secondary Schools in England'.

There are a number of London boroughs which are predominantly populated by Afro-Caribbean and South Asian immigrants, though this is not a true reflection of the nation of a whole (or indeed London). I attend a school which caters for roughly 550 students, between 15-20 of whom have complete or significant foreign ancestry. We are quite clearly the majority here. There same is to be said for every school in my locality.

The cities of Birmingham, Bradford, Leicester, London, Luton and Slough are known for being immigrant 'hotspots'. These cities may be overridden, but England is still largely populated by English people.

As long as the countryside is free. At least immigrants never move to our countries to actually plough the land.

MCP3
Friday, June 22nd, 2012, 04:40 AM
Crisis: Non-White Population Explosion In Britain

When Nationalist heroine Emma West told a crowded tram how she felt about the genocide of her nation and people one black passenger told her “Your Britain is over, it’s gone!”

Great Britain has two simple choices; either accept to become an overcrowded third world hell with the indigenous population becoming an ever-increasing minority and all public services failing or embrace Nationalism and re-settle the non-whites back to their homelands. Non-whites who are deliberatly being imported to genocide the white race:
...


Source (http://www.whitenewsnow.com/british-news-britons/32187-crisis-non-white-population-explosion-britain.html) or full article text with pictures and video
http://endzog.wordpress.com/2012/06/21/crisis-non-white-population-explosion-in-britain/

hyidi
Friday, June 22nd, 2012, 05:05 AM
I applaud her. The British had awoken up finally. I actually said out loud at our local swim pool 'There's no the Aussies? There's only migrants' I am too frustrated at this madness of a takeover.

Maybe they will get through their heads that their leader 'Churchill' sold their nation and people to the devil and stop hailing Churchill as a hero. I bet she wishes Britain went down to Germany 70 years ago. If Britain had done, Britain would had been mixed with all kinds of European people. Too bad for Britain, now she been swipe clean with a new brand of an Alien races. I know I would rather Germans any day than what Britain has now.

I knew Britain were the most worst European country to be affected by multicult immigrations, so its no shock to me.

Maxey
Friday, June 22nd, 2012, 05:29 AM
I truly fear the onset of a Third World Britain. I've managed to trace my lineage so far back into England that it's been my dream for what seems like forever to eventually make Great Britain my home, as soon as I can. I agree with the Nationalist policy in which, at the very least, the importing of non-Europeans comes to a stop. I don't want to get to England or Ireland only to see that I have arrived in the new Baghdad or Nigeria.

Hermóðr
Friday, June 22nd, 2012, 08:21 AM
I applaud her. The British had awoken up finally. I actually said out loud at our local swim pool 'There's no the Aussies? There's only migrants' I am too frustrated at this madness of a takeover.

Maybe they will get through their heads that their leader 'Churchill' sold their nation and people to the devil and stop hailing Churchill as a hero. I bet she wishes Britain went down to Germany 70 years ago. If Britain had done, Britain would had been mixed with all kinds of European people. Too bad for Britain, now she been swipe clean with a new brand of an Alien races. I know I would rather Germans any day than what Britain has now.

I knew Britain were the most worst European country to be affected by multicult immigrations, so its no shock to me.

Parts of Britain, you mean. It's the major towns/cities in England that have significant numbers of 'ethnics' (see Birmingham and London as prime examples) but areas such as the Home Counties and Cornwall are still overwhelmingly white. As is Scotland, where racial 'others' account for around 2% of the population.

hyidi
Friday, June 22nd, 2012, 12:52 PM
but areas such as the Home Counties and Cornwall are still overwhelmingly white. As is Scotland, where racial 'others' account for around 2% of the population.

How long would that last?


It's the major towns/cities in England that have significant numbers of 'ethnics' (see Birmingham and London as prime examples)
I've even heard that In Britain there Is 'no go zones' for Native British.

Hermóðr
Friday, June 22nd, 2012, 12:55 PM
How long would that last?


I've even heard that In Britain there Is 'no go zones' for Native British.

Yeah, all of which are in the major cities of England. Nothing like that up north, thankfully.

Englisc
Sunday, May 29th, 2016, 06:16 AM
Britain is poised at two historic turning points — and they go together. Very much depends on the outcome.

http://www.standpointmag.co.uk/files/u28/coleman_graph_4.jpg

Rapid population growth, driven by the highest immigration in our history, is destabilising and transforming its population, its environment and its ethnic make-up into something quite new.

At the same time, the UK faces a choice about leaving the EU or remaining in it.

Some welcome the growth of the population and the increased diversity that it brings. For those who do not, leaving the EU offers a possibility of moderating at least some of that growth, keeping the UK in something like its present size and shape.

However, that is only a possibility.

By itself, Brexit might change nothing; for it would depend on the choices made by any post-Brexit government, in particular on also leaving the European Economic Area (which includes all EU member states plus Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway) and ending the commitment to the free movement of labour.

Until 1997, immigration had been off the policy agenda for 20 years, thanks to an uneasy political consensus to limit inflows. Although trending slightly upwards, immigration was not then very controversial.

However, the Blair government began to take down the barriers to migration.

According to Blair aide Andrew Neather, one of the aims of the New Labour policy of opening up the UK to mass immigration was to ‘rub the Right’s nose in diversity’, promoting permanent ethnic change to the permanent electoral advantage of Labour.

The steps then taken provoked a rapid upsurge in net migration (inflow minus outflow), which continues to reach record levels: 3.3 million immigrants came to the UK from 2001 to 2014.

Immigration, mostly then from outside the EU, had already reached record levels when, in 2004, the Blair government, alone among the major economies of the West, allowed free entry for work to the new Eastern European EU accession countries.

Those countries had low levels of income and low social and political development relative to the EU average.

Everything pointed to a very large influx, but the government fatuously predicted that ‘13,000 per year’ would enter. Officially, 53,000 entered in the first year and 76,000 the next; these figures are now known to be substantial underestimates.

At any rate, by 2013, 1.24 million people born in Eastern Europe were living in the UK, compared with 170,000 in 2004 — the biggest inflow in British history.

No forward planning or provision whatsoever was made for the Blairite influx. Indeed, it has been so great that it would have been difficult to make adequate provision. Hence many of our present problems.

Naturally, many of these arise straightforwardly from the pressure of population.

The UK’s population had nearly stabilised in the Seventies and Eighties: birth and death rates were in balance, in some years more migrants leaving than arriving. There were even very small falls in population from 1975-78 and in 1982.

New immigration changed all that. Between 2013 and 2014, the population increased by 491,000 — one of the fastest rates of any industrial country.

That is not all. Women born overseas contributed 27 per cent of all live births in England and Wales in 2014, and 33 per cent of births had at least one immigrant parent — a figure which has more than doubled since the 1990s.

Taking into account many statistics, migration accounted overall for 85 per cent of population growth from 2001-2012.

This week, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) reported that the total number of EU nationals coming here under freedom-of-movement rules was 270,000 last year. This included a record number from Romania and Bulgaria. Overall migration, including those from outside the EU, was 333,000 in the year to December.

What, therefore, is the prospect for the future?

In none of the projections by the ONS does the UK population fail to grow to more than 70 million.

In the ‘Principal Projection’ (based on underlying assumptions of what is most likely to happen), the UK population (now 65 million) exceeds 70 million in 11 years, reaches 77 million by 2050 and exceeds 80 million by 2060. That implies an additional 2.9 million immigrants by 2030, not including their post-2014 children.

But these official assumptions are far below the actual level of recent net migration: 313,000 in 2014 and 333,000 in the 12 months to last December.

Were the 2014 actual inflow to persist, Britain’s population would exceed 80 million shortly after 2040, in 25 years’ time, and 90 million shortly after 2060.

Another measure is the number of new National Insurance numbers issued. These are given to EU citizens as a requirement to work here.

From 2011 to 2015, some 2,234,000 NI numbers were handed out.

That greatly exceeds the number of people who arrived from the EU in that period, according to the Office for National Statistics estimates.

This implies an undercount of 1.2 million, or about 240,000 per year. ONS has claimed that this is mostly accounted for by short-term migration, not included in the annual long-term migration figures.

Indeed, there are many reasons for supposing that net migration will not decline as the ONS assumes it will. On the contrary, it may even increase.

Any reduction in net migration to the UK requires at least one of the following developments:

Effective operation of the restrictions on welfare negotiated by David Cameron, which are subject to agreement of all the other 27 EU states — which could be problematic. Yet all commentators agree that the effects, even if they could be applied, would be nugatory.

A resolution of the euro crisis, and eurozone labour market reforms (so that youth unemployment in Greece, for example, falls from its current 49 per cent). Yet economic forecasts and the current outlook do not inspire confidence that such progress can be expected any time soon.

Convergence in real wages in Eastern Europe. Big wage differentials, not welfare, are the main attraction drawing East Europeans to Britain. At present, wages in their home countries are between one quarter and one-sixth of the UK level. Of course, the introduction of the National Living Wage here has further increased the attraction of the UK for migrants.

Further restrictions on the number of immigrants admitted from outside the EU. But this requires political will and judges to curb their activism in human rights cases — for example, further restrictions on the number of people allowed to come here to join their spouse, by increasing residence requirements, age limits on marriage, and proficiency in English language.

Ending employers’ dependency on migrant labour and persuading them to concentrate first on the domestic population for labour. Also, perhaps, an obligation to take on domestic workers in some proportion to overseas workers. The Government should moderate its own dependency on overseas labour, notably for the NHS.

UK exit from the EU. A post-Brexit government could decide to limit entry from the EU, possibly favouring highly skilled migrants. Indeed, there would be little point in Brexit without such measures. That would restrict EU inflows, most of which are in low-paid work.

Further expansion of the EU is likely to increase migration even more. The apparently relentless drive to the East by the EU Commission will activate further sources of migration as more poor countries are embraced by the EU. Looking to the future, citizens of possible new accession countries (such as Albania, Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Turkey, Bosnia and Kosovo) will be eligible for work in the UK once they join.

The long-run migration potential from those countries is highly uncertain — but it is likely to be large. In case this seems fanciful, recall that an estimated one-third of the population of Albania is already thought to be living in Western countries.

Turkey is a special problem. It is not a European country, despite occupying a small corner of the European continent. Its accession would take the frontiers of the EU to those of Iraq, Iran and Syria.

Turkey’s population is 75 million and rising. Indeed, some of its regions are rock-bottom poor, with very high birth rates.

Repression of press freedoms and conflict with minorities — notably the Kurds — is becoming harsher. Despite that, the EU is being successfully blackmailed into accelerating Turkey’s stalled admission application in return for its help in the migration crisis. For his part, David Cameron remains in favour of Turkey’s admission to the EU, a position impossible to reconcile with his promises to reduce migration.

Certainly, Turkey’s potential for migration is very difficult to evaluate, but it is suggested that it would be about 100,000 per year to the UK. Why does all this matter?

Of course, the friends of population growth — Chancellor George Osborne, many in the Remain campaign, business periodicals such as The Economist and the FT — see no harm in it and much benefit. GDP and overall tax increase, they argue.

And, as the BBC and much of the media tell us, as immigration is good for the country, why complain?

One becomes weary of pointing out that GDP growth relates to the national economy as a whole and doesn’t benefit individuals.

A lso, there is the issue of those working in the black economy. It is impossible here to address adequately the arguments about the economic benefits of migration.

High-skilled migration is usually a benefit unless it generates dependency and deters domestic training and opportunity.

It is true that the immigrant contribution to most aspects of life in Britain will be apparent to everyone. It has brought many illustrious persons to Britain.

But on the simple fiscal calculations usually presented, the average benefits per capita are trivial and may be negative. In any case, the benefits of migration accrue mostly to the immigrant.

A study in 2014 which included some costs, such as education, as well as tax, earnings and benefits, showed that, overall, immigration from 1995 to 2011 imposed a total cost of between £32 billion and £114 billion, depending on the assumptions made — a positive contribution from European Economic Area migrants being greatly outweighed by the net cost of immigrants from the rest of the world.

Crucially, few of these fiscal calculations include the large additional costs imposed by migration: the need to build more schools, maternity wards and hospitals, and housing, the pressure on transport and infrastructure such as water resources. Immigrants bring no capital.

There is another key factor. Births in the UK have risen strongly since the beginning of the century; from 668,777 in 2002 to 778,805 in 2013. Of these, births to immigrant mothers have almost doubled from 110,484 to 196,806.

On top of that, the National Statistician (the Government’s principal adviser on official statistics) has disclosed that 126,000 children of school age came to the UK from the European Economic Area since 2004.

Schools are correspondingly under great pressure: 880,000 more pupils are officially projected by 2023, mostly as a consequence of immigration. Meanwhile, as immigration continues at a high level, most future housebuilding will be devoted to accommodating it. These facts are seldom raised when the housing crisis is discussed.

Diversity imposes costs, too, in new public sector bureaucracies, translators and legal complications.

Elsewhere, however much energy efficiency programmes may succeed in reducing energy demand, population growth puts pressure on energy adequacy. Maybe the lights will not stay on if today’s high migration levels persist.

Finally, immigration is making the most fundamental permanent change of all, in the composition of the population itself.

In the 1991 census, the non-white population, mostly of post-1960 immigrant origin, stood at 3 million or 6 per cent of the total in England and Wales. By 2011 this had increased to nearly 8 million, or 14 per cent of the total.

Those describing themselves as ‘White British’ comprised 88 per cent of the total population in 2001.

But by the 2011 census, the ‘White British’ population in England and Wales had declined by 400,000, whereas the non-white population had increased by over three million and the population describing itself as white but not British (many from Eastern Europe) had increased by just over a million.

So. What might the future hold for the ethnic composition of the UK?

I made a projection in 2010 that if immigration stayed at its long-term rate of around 180,000 a year as it was at the time, the White British-born population would decline from 80 per cent of the total then to just 59 per cent in 2051.

Taking the projection to a more uncertain distance, the White British population would cease to be the majority in the UK by the late 2060s.

However, should current high levels of immigration persist for any length of time, that date would move closer to the present. Britain would then become unrecognisable to its present inhabitants.

Some people would welcome a brave new experiment, pioneering a wider world future. Others, though, might say ‘Finis Britanniae’.

What does all this mean?

Some would welcome it as a move to a more diverse society. But as numbers in different groups increase, their need to integrate into British society becomes less and less, except inasmuch as they are needed to operate in the economy. And as the balance of numbers changes, the question arises as to who will adapt to whom.

Some, like many Pakistani Muslims in some Northern cities, continue to live a closed, traditional lifestyle in First World comfort, with little need to adapt to their British surroundings. Such groups increase, while UK space available to the White British diminishes.

The former head of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, Trevor Phillips, recently warned vigorously about the serious consequences of failing to adopt a strong policy of integration, warning of ‘squeamishness about addressing diversity risks allowing our country to sleepwalk to a catastrophe that will set community against community’.

The truth is that very high levels of immigration make this issue even more pressing than before.

I said at the start of this article that Britain is at a tide in its affairs.

If immigration is not substantially reduced, the country will be transformed out of recognition by the consequences of a very large population increase: schools, housing, environment, the make-up of the people of Britain, all will change in ways in which no one has been consulted and few want.

The coming referendum will not of itself resolve the issue. But it might offer the beginning of the end of an otherwise inexorable change.

David Coleman is professor emeritus in demography at Oxford University This is an edited version of a longer article in the June issue of Standpoint magazine.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3613682/RIP-Britain-academic-objectivity-Oxford-Professor-DAVID-COLEMAN-one-country-s-population-experts-says-white-Britons-minority-late-2060s-sooner-current-immigration-trends-continue.html

Nachtengel
Friday, November 11th, 2016, 08:15 PM
Mass nonwhite immigration, explosive immigrant birth rates, and declining white reproduction will have ethnically cleansed white people in Britain into minority status within the next 50 years, new statistics have confirmed.

A new report has revealed that white populations in towns and cities are dwindling at record levels and in many cases have halved over the past ten years alone.

The report, issued by a U.K. government adviser on “community cohesion,” Professor Ted Cantle, and Eric Kaufmann, Professor of Politics at Birkbeck College, said that many towns and cities, such as Birmingham, Leicester, Slough, Luton, Bradford, and London, have seen areas develop where the white British population is “increasingly dwindling” as minorities increase.

Professor Cantle cited the Lancashire town of Blackburn as one of the most segregated towns in Britain, whose Whalley Range area is now 95 percent Asian.

According to the report, the white population of England has dropped to 79 percent of the total, down from 86 percent just ten years ago.
http://newobserveronline.com/white-british-minority-within-50-years/

Æmeric
Saturday, November 12th, 2016, 06:28 PM
A little off topic but Prince Harry's latest love interest is an America Mulatto. It would be fitting revenge from above if Elizabeth Horribilis' grandson brought colored blood into the Royal family after that old hag has spent the last 60+ years allowing Britain to be transformed for the good of the Commomwealth and globalism.

Satcher
Tuesday, August 1st, 2017, 09:17 AM
I was looking into this the other day myself and I read somewhere that the UK non-White population was around 15,000 in 1931, which would be in line with the 1951 figure. I believe they were almost exclusively limited to 4 cities as well, which from memory were Liverpool, Cardiff, Hull and London (?)

... happy days! :)

Interesting, what are the figures for non-whites in England now?

Nachtengel
Tuesday, August 1st, 2017, 03:11 PM
Non-Whites Majority Of UK School Population Within 20 Years

Nonwhites will make up the majority population in British schools within the next twenty years, the direct result of decades of mass Third World immigration and their natural reproduction rates, an analysis of new data issued by the UK’s Department of Education has revealed.

According to the report, titled “Schools, pupils and their characteristics: January 2017” and issued at the beginning of July 2017, nonwhites already make up over 25 percent of all school pupils in primary and secondary schools combined, and have increased their numbers by more than 10 percent in the last ten years.

According to the report, there are a total of 8.67 million pupils in all schools in England—which means that there are already in excess of 2.167 million nonwhite pupils.

The total number of pupils has grown every year since 2009 and there are now 577,000 more pupils The report reveals that the proportion of pupils from “minority ethnic origins,” has “been rising steadily since 2006. In primary schools, 32.1% of pupils of compulsory school age are of minority ethnic origins, an increase from 31.4% in January 2016.

“Minority ethnic pupils made up 66.3% of the increase in pupil numbers in primary schools between 2016 and 2017.
“In secondary schools, 29.1% of pupils are of minority ethnic origins, an increase from 27.9% in 2016.”

The Department of Education’s figures however, include white children of “non-British origin”—in other words, those of Polish or Eastern European origin.

The report goes on to a specific breakdown of pupils by ethnic origin in State funded schools in England;

State-funded primary schools
White British 67.2White Non-British 7.5
Asian 10.7
Black 5.6
Mixed 5.9
Chinese 0.4
Any other 1.9
Unclassified 0.7

State-funded secondary schools
White British 69.5
White Non-British 5.7
Asian 10.7
Black 5.6
Mixed 5.0
Chinese 0.4
Any other 1.7
Unclassified 1.5

In primary schools, 20.6% of pupils are exposed to a language known or believed to be other than English in their home. This is an increase of 0.5 percentage points since January 2016, and the figure has been steadily rising since 2006.

In secondary schools, 16.2% of pupils are exposed to a non-English language in their home. This rate has also steadily increased over the last ten years and by 0.5 percentage points since January 2016.

Most significantly, a graph provided in the report reveals that the white percentage of the school age population has dropped by over 12 percent in the ten-year period between 2006 and 2016.

Projected forward, this decline means that whites will become an absolute minority in British schools within the next twenty years—and that within the next thirty years, the majority of the under-21 population of the UK will be of Third World origin.

An inevitable collapse into Third World status can only be avoided by and immediate halt to further immigration, and the implementation of a deportation program of those nonwhites already present.

* In some regions, the full extent of the invasion and extermination of whites in Britain is even more apparent. For example, a report in the Birmingham Mail revealed that fewer than two out of five primary school pupils in Birmingham are white.

That paper reported that only 33,208 out of 90,869 pupils in the city’s schools were classed as white in 2016. This figure represents 36.5 per cent of the complete make-up.

This is down from 36.3 per cent in 2015, when Asian children made up 32,251 of 88,809 total pupils. Children with black ethnic background made up 12.4 per cent, 11,295, while mixed children background made up 8.5 per cent, 7,680 and Chinese 0.6 per cent, 527.


https://www.defendevropa.org/2017/population-replacement/nonwhites-majority-uk-school-20years/


Native English Fertility Rate Continues To Fall

The latest statistical bulletin released by the Office of National Statistics shows that the fertility rate amongst English people is continuing to decline.

Another worrying trend is also on the increase; 28.2% of live births in England and Wales were to foreign-born mothers (2016). Given that anybody can be considered English by setting foot on our soil these days, this is likely a gross underestimate of the true figures.

The fertility rate in England and Wales has also fallen by a hundredth, to 1.81. Again, due to non-native fertility rates being included in these figures, the fertility rate of native women can be placed much lower, perhaps even in line with Italy (1.37) or Japan (1.46).

This demonstrates that The Great Replacement is in full flow, with Somalis (4.19), Afghans (4.25) and Pakistanis (3.82) continuing to out-breed the native population – with the English taxpayer footing the bill, of course.

The ONS have also kindly illustrated the correlation between the decline in fertility rates and the “sexual revolution”.

Fertility rates in England nose-dived in the immediate aftermath of the Abortion Act 1967 (the legislation that legalised abortion in England and Wales) and have not since recovered.

Furthermore, the number of babies being born outside of marriage or “civil partnership” is 47.6%. In the mid-1950’s, this was 5%.

Continue reading to see the overview as provided by the ONS.



Main points
There were 696,271 live births in England and Wales in 2016, a decrease of 0.2% from 2015.
In 2016, the total fertility rate (TFR) decreased to 1.81 children per woman, from 1.82 in 2015.
The average age of mothers in 2016 increased to 30.4 years, compared with 30.3 years in 2015.
Women aged 40 and over had a higher fertility rate than women aged under 20 for the second time since 1947.
Over a quarter (28.2%) of live births in 2016 were to mothers born outside the UK, the highest level on record.
In 2016, the stillbirth rate decreased to 4.4 per 1,000 total births, the lowest rate since 1992.
Statistician’s comment
“The percentage of babies born outside of marriage or civil partnership in 2016 was 48%; of these, two-thirds had parents who lived together. The percentage of births outside of marriage or civil partnership has remained relatively unchanged since 2012, following a notable increase from 5% in the mid-1950s. This increase coincided with cohabitation becoming more common as an alternative to marriage, particularly at younger ages.”

Nicola Haines, Vital Statistics Outputs Branch, Office for National Statistics

Things you need to know about this release
Important information for interpreting these birth statistics:

birth statistics represent births that occurred in England and Wales in the calendar year, but include a very small number of late registrations from the previous year
figures are compiled from information supplied when births are registered as part of civil registration, a legal requirement
Live births decreased slightly in 2016
There were 696,271 live births in England and Wales in 2016, a small decrease of 0.2% compared with 697,852 in 2015. The number of live births has fluctuated, following a 4.3% decrease between 2012 and 2013; the largest percentage annual decrease since 1975 (Figure 1).

Fertility rates for women aged 30 and over continue their long-term rise
In 2016, fertility rates for women aged 30 and over increased compared with 2015; this continues the long-term rise in fertility rates for women at these ages since the mid-1970s.

The fertility rate for women aged 40 and over has now trebled since 1990 and is at its highest level since 1949. The fertility rate for women aged 35 to 39 has trebled since 1980 and is now at its highest ever level since the beginning of the time series in 1938.

Fertility rates for women aged under 30 decreased compared with 2015. Fertility rates in both the under 20 and 20 to 24 age groups are now at their lowest ever level since the beginning of the time series in 1938 (Figure 3).

The largest percentage decrease in fertility rates in 2016 was for women aged under 20 (5.5%); the largest percentage increase was for women aged 40 and over (4.6%). In 2015 and 2016, the fertility rate for women aged 40 and over exceeded the rate for women aged under 20; this pattern was last recorded in 1947.

Since 2004 women aged 30 to 34 have had the highest fertility of any age group; prior to this women aged 25 to 29 had the highest fertility.

Two-thirds of babies born outside marriage or civil partnership have parents who live together
The percentage of births outside marriage or civil partnership declined very slightly in 2016 to 47.6% from 47.7% in 2015. Many of the babies born outside of marriage or civil partnership have parents who live together. Since 1998, over 60% of all births registered outside marriage or civil partnership each year have been to a cohabiting couple; in 2016 the figure was 67%. This is consistent with increases in the number of couples cohabiting rather than entering into marriage or civil partnership.

The percentage of births outside marriage or civil partnership has remained relatively unchanged since 2012, following a notable increase from 5% in the mid-1950s.

The percentage of live births to non-UK-born mothers continues to rise
The percentage of live births in England and Wales to mothers born outside the UK continued to rise in 2016, reaching 28.2%; this percentage has increased every year since 1990, when it was 11.6%.

In recent years, the percentage of births to women born outside the UK has been higher than the percentage of the female population of childbearing age born outside the UK. There are two reasons for this:

fertility levels are generally higher among foreign-born women
the foreign-born and UK-born female populations of reproductive age have different age structures, with a higher proportion of foreign-born women being aged from 25 to 34, where fertility is highest

Fertility rates can vary considerably between areas
In 2016, the East of England and the West Midlands were the regions of England with the highest total fertility rate (TFR), with 1.91 children per woman. The North East and London had the lowest TFR, 1.72 children per woman.

Among the local authorities in England in 2016, City of London had the lowest TFR (0.75), Barking and Dagenham had the highest (2.47). The TFR for the City of London is based on a small number of women so should be interpreted with some caution. In Wales in 2016, Cardiff had the lowest TFR (1.59), Denbighshire had the highest (2.09). The interactive map below shows how fertility rates for local authority areas have changed since 2001.

Number of live births in the UK decreases
The provisional number of live births in the UK in 2016 was 774,849; a decrease of 0.3% compared with 2015.

In Scotland the number of live births decreased by 1.1% in 2016 (provisional figure); there was a slightly smaller fall of 0.5% in Northern Ireland (provisional figure).

The number of stillbirths decreased in 2016
The number of stillbirths in England and Wales fell by 1.1% to 3,112 in 2016, from 3,147 in 2015. The stillbirth rate takes into account the total number of births (live and stillbirths), so provides a more accurate indication of trends than just analysing the number of stillbirths over time. In 2016, the stillbirth rate for England and Wales fell to 4.4 per 1,000 total births; the lowest rate since 1992 when it was 4.3.

In England, the stillbirth rate in 2016 was 4.3 per 1,000 total births, down from 4.4 in 2015. There has been a general downward trend in the stillbirth rate over the last 10 years with a decrease of 19% since 2006 (Figure 3).

In Wales, the stillbirth rate in 2016 was 5.0 per 1,000 total births, up from 4.7 in 2015. The small number of stillbirths in Wales means the rate can fluctuate.


https://www.defendevropa.org/2017/population-replacement/native-english-fertility-rate-continues-fall/

Æmeric
Tuesday, August 1st, 2017, 05:53 PM
In 2011 the indigenous White population of the UK was 82%. Non-Whites were roughly 13% and the rest EU migrants. 13% of 63 million (the UK resident population in 2011) is about 8.2 million non-Whites. In 1991 the non-White (what they use to call "New Commonwealth") portion of the UK was 3 million.

For comparison the US non-White population increased from around 55 million in 1990 to 130 million in 2017.

Skerritt
Wednesday, August 2nd, 2017, 11:59 AM
Currently

4.37 million indian, paki and other Asian
1.9 million black African
1.2 million mixed race
0.6 million other ethnic group

I believe the city of Leicester (population 350'000) is 55% Indian/Pakistani, 45% white.

This abstract was written in 2006:


Two strangers bumping into each other by accident have a less than 50% chance of belonging to the same racial group in some UK cities, the first official index of diversity revealed yesterday.

The greatest diversity is found in 24 London boroughs as well as Birmingham, Slough, Leicester and Luton. In Manchester, Wolverhampton, Oxford, Blackburn and Bradford the likelihood of bumping into someone of different ethnicity is at least 40%; in Coventry, Watford, Cambridge and Reading it is at least 35%.

An analysis of neighbourhoods showed the most homogeneously white British communities are in Tony Blair's constituency in Sedgefield.

The Office for National Statistics worked out the probabilities after the first full analysis of the racial and religious mix of every local authority in England and Wales. The London borough of Brent was the most diverse: at the time of the last census in 2001, 29% of residents were white British, 18% Indian, 10% black Caribbean, 9% other white groups, 8% black African and 26% from other groups.


The ONS said any two people in Brent had an 85% chance of being from different racial groups. In the London borough of Newham the score was 83%, in Westminster 71% and in Kensington and Chelsea, the most prosperous inner-city authority, 68%.

Two hundred local authorities scored below 10%; Carlisle, Hartlepool, Barnsley, St Helens and Berwick upon Tweed were under 5%. The least multicultural was Easington, Co Durham, at 2%.

The Aesthete
Friday, August 4th, 2017, 04:42 PM
This is just sad.

Indo-European
Saturday, August 5th, 2017, 01:51 AM
It's not just sad, it's pathetic.

HerrSchulze
Saturday, August 5th, 2017, 08:38 AM
The ONS have also kindly illustrated the correlation between the decline in fertility rates and the “sexual revolution”.

The so-called “sexual revolution” seems to be at the root of a demographic disaster or population crisis all around the Western World. In some ways it seems that this “revolution” has impacted the (Western) world more profoundly than anything since the industrial revolution.

For the common person, it may initially seem counter-intuitive that people having more sex is causing a crisis in birth rates but such people fail to acknowledge the paradigm shift that has occurred amongst the masses' attitudes towards procreation and the family following the sexual revolution.

If having children was solely connected to a person’s sexual activity, University campuses would be veritable centres of population growth.

The sexual revolution has served no purpose beyond psychologically conditioning people to separate procreation from marriage, then separating sex from procreation and finally separating love or even any sense of commitment from sex.

Nachtengel
Friday, January 5th, 2018, 08:42 PM
Muslim Population in England Increases 6900% from 1939 to 2017

In Muslim Population in Europe: 1950 – 2020 by Houssain Kettani, we learn the England had a Muslim population of .1 percent in 1939.

(Stuff Black People don't Like)

Estimates for the Muslim population increased from 50,000 or 0.1% in 1939, to 100,000 or 0.2% in 1951, to 750,000 or 1.2% in 1971, to 1.25 million or 2.2% in 1981, to 1.5 million or 2.6% in 1991. According to the 2001 census, the total population was 58,789,187, out of which 1,591,000 or 2.71% were Muslims. [International Journal of Environmental Science and Development, Vol. 1, No. 2, June 2010 ISSN:2010-0264]

In England today, there are more than 3 million Muslims, with the greater London area boasting more than 1 million Muslims. [Muslims in UK top 3 million for first time... with over 50% born outside Britain: Number in country doubles in a decade as immigration and birth rates soar, Daily Mail, 1-30-2016]

- In some parts of London, close to half of the population are now Muslims
- On current trends they will be the majority in those areas within a decade
- More are under ten years old than any other age group, indicating future generations

Just a 6900% increase in the Muslim population of England from 1939 to 2017.http://whiteresister.com/index.php/10-news/1281-muslim-population-in-england-increases-6900-from-1939-to-2017

Untersberger
Friday, January 5th, 2018, 10:48 PM
This is to state the obvious but will write it again. The instant fix to this invasion via political deceit re intentional EUSSR 'social engineering' is to remove all expected 'Welfare' financial support for non-Citizens of each and every European nation.

Done and dusted. Any persons still remaining behind well beyond the cut off date may well then to be suspected of having a serious concern for their very life if returned to whichever country of origin. These people should then be fully investigated upon placement in a safe haven hostel in a remote country style location pending an outcome of their application under genuine humanitarian law. Genuine refugees would have no argument knowing they are kept secure and safe while their case by case is properly investigated. Once welfare is removed the net to trap the fakes becomes amazingly easier.

People would think with the absolute Billions in finances the UN rolls in annually they would easy be able to create an approx 50 to 100 square kilometer purpose built UN governed major City on land purchased from perhaps the African continent as it is a centre point of people claiming to be fleeing persecution in whatever way that might be alleged.
This UN controlled City provincial area could then employ the best professionals worldwide to investigate each individual refugee claimant case by case and enforce either deportation or a placement in nations most suited to their ethnicity and cultural/religious identitity to progress a genuine successful resettlement.

Major world Corporations and the World Bank could ensue this strategy would be financed very successfully and that the adoptive nations best suited to these genuine refugees be offered appropriate financial support for successful resettlements.


It really is that easy.

Resist
Sunday, August 5th, 2018, 12:57 AM
The United Kingdom, once it held the seat of a global empire. The union of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern-Ireland was a multicultural union in its own right. Regardless, most of the Irish remained in Ireland. Most of the Welsh remained in Wales, and most of the Scottish remained in Scotland. England was by far a majority of English people.

All elements of the union thus kept their distinct cultures, and even today Scotland has a different feel to it than England. This is changing though. Parts of England no longer feel very English at all. It is a trend that started after World War II and has only become more apparent in recent years.

Tit-for-Tat

There was a point in time where the inhabitants of the United Kingdom spread across the globe. The United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and even South Africa.

All of these nations were shaped by settlers that left their rainy island for a brighter future. Now, those from across the world are leaving their tropical countries to find prosperity in the United Kingdom. You might say that it is a tit-for-tat scenario. The British did it in the past, so now it is only fair that they are on the other side of the deal. Yet, what will happen to the demography of the United Kingdom?

Moreover, if acting ‘fair’ means the British losing control of their homeland, should they really wish to have it fair? Throughout history, everyone conquered and was conquered. It seems insane to try to set the record straight and balance it out. The British, after all, have been conquered by the Anglo-Saxon tribes from Germany, the Normans from Scandinavia and the French have made their attempts.

The Demography Today

The United Kingdom has around 65 million inhabitants. Their headcount is actually lower than that of France, or of Germany. Out of these 65, almost 55 million live in England. Just over 5 million are in Scotland. Only 3 million in Wales, and not even 2 million in Northern Ireland.

What is the demographic split between these 65 million when we look at ethnicity? Close to 90% of them, or 87% to be more precise, is classified as white. The data is from 2011, so there will have been some changes since as there was a large influx of migrants over the last years. Yet, despite being slightly outdated, it gives us a decent overview.

https://voiceofeurope.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/aUK-Demographics.png

The next largest ethnic group is African/Black, making up 3%. Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi combined form close to 5% of the total population. Do take note that the biggest group is simply called ‘White’ and not ‘White British’. This means that it does include all Europeans that moved to the United Kingdom under the free migrations laws of the European Union.

Native born versus Foreign born

The chart below shows the percentage of UK-native born versus those born outside of the UK. Note that this does not say anything about their ethnicity. An ethnic Chinese might have been born in the UK, while an ethnic White might have been born outside of the UK.

https://voiceofeurope.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/aNativeBornUK.png

What we see in this graph is that in 1951 already 4.3% of the UK population had been born abroad. We can see this percentage rise and rise, reaching 13.4% already in 2011. Of course, those that had moved to the UK from abroad during the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s, will have had children that show up as ‘native born’ in the 90’s, 00’s and so on. Thus, the percentage of native born says nothing about who would be ‘White British’. Nor does it say anything about those who feel culturally a part of England, or who have adapted to the British culture.

A big rise in migration since 2001 is undoubtedly the influx of East-Europeans that were allowed entry due to being members of the EU. Additionally, the non-UK born include American, Canadian or Australian descendants from British settlers that have now returned to the UK. Some right-wing fanatics like to believe that the United Kingdom is already overrun by those of Indian ancestry, and that that 13.4% would be all Asian migrants. That, of course, is utter nonsense and it makes them lose credibility among those that observe reality. Again, in 2011 still 87% of Britain was considered white.

The Future of the Britons

The UN predicts that the population will grow to 69 million by 2050. For that to happen, over four million need to migrate to the United Kingdom over the upcoming decades. Why do they need to be migrants? Because the UK’s fertility rate is below the replacement level. With a rate of 1.8, they are below the replacement level of 2.1. The UK’s population would shrink without migration. Another 6% of the population will be immigrants during the upcoming years, primarily from Asia and Africa, to total these four million.

The Oxford Migration Observatory has also determined some demographic trends for the United Kingdom. According to Professor David Coleman claims that white Britons would become a minority in their own country before 2070. More exactly the year is pinpointed at 2066. We do wish to highlight that the white Britons excludes other European peoples. However, that does not make the conclusion any less severe.

In the book ”Why I no longer talk to white people about race” the research by Coleman is also quoted. The research is not questioned or debunked, it is accepted as fact. The book’s only question is ‘So what?’ For anyone that values British culture, that rhetorical questions appears as ignorant and confrontational. Of course, British culture is subdivided in English culture, Scottish culture, Welsh culture and Irish culture. Perhaps the Scottish, Welsh and Irish will maintain their cultures for a while longer as migration is concentrated in England. But English culture, which Kate Fox authored a best-selling book about, may be pushed away into the countryside and Cornwall. It will be replaced by the culture of the newcomers.

Islam in the United Kingdom

By 2050, according to Pew Research, Islam in the United Kingdom will have increased to between 9.7% to 17.2%, depending on the level of migration. The lowest is zero migration, the highest is current levels of high migration. Currently it stands at 6.3%. Although the average Briton has a fertility rate of 1.8, that of Muslims in the United Kingdom stands at 2.9. Over a child more per woman. Nearly three children on average for every Muslim woman in the United Kingdom. That is why the percentage of Muslims will grow rapidly even with zero migration.

In numbers, rather than percentages, this increase could take the United Kingdom from 4 million to 13 million. Between 2010 and 2016, 43% of all migrants entering the United Kingdom were Muslims. The remainder like either Hindus from India, or Christians from Eastern Europe.

London
Not only do most live in England, but London is by far the biggest city. Almost 9 million people live in London, with the next biggest city being Birmingham. Birmingham, however, has only just over 1 million citizens. Hardly surprising, London is the biggest city in the European Union, followed by Berlin with only half the population of London on the second place.

Coleman predicted that long before 2066 the white Britons would be the minority in the younger age groups, and in the urban areas. London may be one example, but Birmingham and other large cities are similar. Already in 2013 the white Britons became a minority in London, making up a mere 45% of the inhabitants of the great city. London is only a few decades ahead of the rest of England.

Conclusion

It is clear for anyone to see that the United Kingdom is experiencing severe demographic changes. The political climate in the country has made this topic completely impossible to discuss. Ever since Enoch Powell had his speech titled ‘Rivers of Blood‘, the topic of demographic changes is immediately linked to racist views. The speech marked the end of Powell’s political career.

Perhaps the Brexit vote shows that the English people are in fact fed up with the way they are being governed. After all, nobody ever asked them if this is what they wanted. To end the demographic shift, they will need more than a Brexit. They would need drastic changes in government, a thing that seems highly unlikely in today’s Britain.

Today, 37% of the British say they don’t feel at home in their country due to the migrants. Hardly a surprise when you can walk through entire neighbourhoods without hearing English being spoken.https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/08/united-kingdom-the-vanishing-white-briton/

SaxonPagan
Sunday, August 5th, 2018, 04:48 PM
Hahaha!!! *OFFICIAL* statistics :rotfl

They don't have a clue when Whites will become a minority but let me tell you now it's a lot closer than the year 2100!

They're lying about nearly everything, including the population which is apparently static and somewhere around the 65m. mark ... NO WAY!!! They're having to build a new house every 4 minutes (https://fullfact.org/immigration/new-house-every-four-minutes-due-immigration/) due to immigration, which immediately tells us there's a population explosion.

I've seen towns joining each other when there was previously 5-10 miles of countryside in the middle and I could once drive comfortably on roads which today are clogged up with traffic to the point you can hardly move on them during daylight hours! There's a crisis with school places and to get a doctor's appointment you have to wait 3/4 weeks where I live ... and then they say the population isn't spiralling out of control? So what is causing all this extra demand then?

A lot of the (predominantly non-White) surplus is not on the official stats because they shouldn't be in the country and nobody has a clue how many millions we're talking here. The Grenfell Tower incident made it perfectly clear that the authorities neither know nor care who resides in the UK. This was just some random high-rise block in the middle of London and yet there were no records on half the residents so they had to just guess the death toll!!! At one point the government even granted a one-year amnesty (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41586892) to any 'illegals' who came forward (..which has since been made permanent - no surprise there! :blueroll:)

And finally, there should be a thread on here from several years ago where I mentioned the 1982 census that I was involved in. We were just told to accept whatever immigrants put on the sheet and no checks were ever made. I would estimate that the *official* Indian population at that time was barely HALF of the real number in the area I covered and I also talked to someone else whose experiences in another area were identical to mine. Since then I've just laughed at government statistics and future forecasts etc.. etc.. because they all undergo a lot of PC manipulation before being made public - FACT! :thumbdown

So 2100 is just a nice, round figure that in itself suggests guesswork, but in addition to this it's well into the future and the natives will all think there's nothing to worry about for either themselves or their children ... wrong! :sway

I also notice that the OP goes back to 2004 and since then we've had the *revelation* (at least for the naive) that Tony Blair admitted over 2 million immigrants into Britain without telling anyone and the ongoing 'migrant' invasion of the past few years will not have been factored into these calculations either. You can walk round any major city and observe for yourself when Whites will become a minority and anyone who still thinks it's 82 years away is truly beyond hope! :nope

Wuotans Krieger
Thursday, November 29th, 2018, 09:44 PM
Look on the bright side-if the nuclear button is not pressed by then Mother Nature will have done Her work. There will be no mankind in 2100 unless man changes his ways.

Chlodovech
Tuesday, July 2nd, 2019, 01:33 AM
Now 90% of England agrees: being English is not about colour

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/Raheem-Sterling-969960.jpg?r=1534759924564

Source: The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jun/30/being-english-not-about-colour-say-majority?CMP=share_btn_tw&fbclid=IwAR3-d4MZaXZm2dv1l4p5vhHy0wRj-iuBwNODzXa-3Dx85JrcgzHI5B1rjug)

Study finds acceptance of diversity, symbolised in sport, is growing

The number of people who believe that in order to be English you have to be white has halved over the past seven years, with the older generation apparently driving a wider acceptance of people with different ethnic backgrounds.

Just over 10% of people believe that ethnicity is an important determining factor in being English, compared to 20% from a 2012 study, according to British Future and the Centre for English Identity and Politics, which is about to publish its follow-up to the 2012 study, This Sceptred Isle.

The biggest change was noted among over-65s, where the importance of whiteness fell from 35% to 16%. The new data could challenge the perception that the 2016 Brexit referendum reflected an increase in xenophobic English identity. The findings suggest that during the time of the Brexit vote, perceptions of English identity were becoming more, rather than less, ethnically inclusive.

A contributing factor to this shift in perceptions is likely to be emergence of examples of English diversity. Gareth Southgate’s squad for the 2018 World Cup in Russia was a prominent example. Southgate described the England squad as a team that represented “modern England”. In an ITV interview, he said: “We’ve spent a bit of time being lost as to what our modern identity is, and I think as a team we represent that modern identity and hopefully people can connect with us.”

This was echoed by Sunder Katwala, director of British Future. “An inclusive England may be symbolised by Raheem Sterling and Nikita Parris scoring goals for England, or Moeen Ali taking wickets in the World Cup, but it also reflects the lived reality of who most of us now think of as English.”

Other signifiers of English identity saw a smaller change. Previous results showed 56% of participants thought it was important for your parents to have been born in England, and the latest show 48% do – marking a drop of 8%. “There has been an important generational shift in how we think about England and the English,” said Katwala. “There has been no doubt that most people who have migrated to England, like my parents, usually felt they were invited to become British but not often to identify as English, too. An increasing number of their children, born in England, have felt they can choose to identify as English as well as British.”

However, the survey showed that three factors – being born in England, paying taxes in England and contributing to English society – were seen as important in being English by more than 70% of the population.

Similar polling carried out by YouGov in 2018 revealed that members of BAME communities are still significantly less likely to consider themselves English. However, the perception that being English is strongly related to being born in England could allow new generations of BAME citizens to be more readily acknowledged as English.

John Denham, director of the Centre for English Identity and Politics, said: “The idea that English is an ethnic identity is widely repeated in the media and politics. That Englishness has become even more inclusive at a time in which our society has become more divided is to be welcomed.

“Ethnicity is clearly much less important outside a small hardcore of residents. The further development of an inclusive Englishness would benefit from positive engagement by leaders across the political spectrum. This should aim to encourage BAME citizens to see English identity as open to them and that the strongest English identifiers continue to support the opening up of English identity.”