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Loki
Sunday, February 13th, 2005, 09:02 PM
http://www.ssb.no/english/subjects/00/01/30/innvhold_en/

Attitudes towards immigrants and immigration 2004

Support for status quo - fewer want stricter asylum policy

The share of people who support the current asylum policy or a more liberal policy increased by 8 percentage points from 2003 to 2004. 6 per cent think that it should become easier to be granted asylum status, whereas 44 per cent want the current policy to continue. These results are based on the annual survey on attitudes towards immigrants and immigration carried out by Statistics Norway

In 2003, 37 per cent supported the current asylum policy. The fact that fewer people now want a stricter regime (47 per cent against 56 per cent in 2003) must be viewed in light of the fall in the number of asylum seekers and a stricter asylum policy. In 2003, roughly 15 600 people applied for asylum in Norway (2 000 less than in 2002), and this figure is expected to fall below 9 000 in 2004.

Although this year's survey reveals a significant increase in the share of people who support the current asylum policy or a liberalisation of the asylum policy, this figure has fallen steadily in recent years – from 71 to 42 per cent from 1999 to 2003. The main reasons behind the decrease may be a combination of increased control measures from the government, resulting in greater focus on false asylum applications in public opinion. The number of asylum seekers increased throughout most of the period, a fact that probably played an equally important part.

Stable attitudes towards immigrants

The survey shows that attitudes towards settled immigrants are more or less unchanged from last year. Two thirds of the population 'strongly agree' or 'agree on the whole' that immigrants make a valuable contribution to the Norwegian working life, and nine out of ten believe that immigrants should have the same labour market opportunities as the rest of the population. Four out of ten, however, believe that immigrants abuse the social welfare system and that immigrants are a source of increased insecurity in society. Only one out of ten is reluctant to have an immigrant as a neighbour or home help, but 35 per cent would dislike that their son or daughter married an immigrant.

Majority want immigrants to be more like Norwegians

A small majority (53 per cent) want immigrants to be more like Norwegians, whereas four out of ten disagree. Those who want immigrants to adapt to the Norwegian culture are also most critical to immigration in general.

Education, age and place of residence affect attitudes

Education is the single most important background factor in determining attitudes towards immigrants and immigration. The more education, the more likely a person is to be positive towards immigrants. This leads to differences in attitudes by age given that young adults (25-44 years) tend to have more education than people who are younger and older than them. The oldest age group is more sceptical than younger age groups. Most frequently the young adults are most positive towards immigration. But when it comes to accepting an immigrant as a potential son- or daughter-in-law, the youngest group (16-24 years) is the most positive. The youngest group is also least inclined to support assimilation of immigrants in the Norwegian society.

People living in urban areas are more positive towards immigrants than people from rural areas, and people living in Oslo/Akershus are more positive than people from other parts of the country. Although not surprising, there is a correlation between attitudes towards immigrants and party preference. Respondents who voted for the Red Electoral Alliance or the Socialist Left Party were more likely to be positive towards immigrants than respondents who voted for the Progress Party. On some questions the Liberal Party and the Christian Democrat Party voters were marginally more positive than voters on left side of the political sphere.

Two out of three have contact with immigrants

67 of the respondents report that they have some contact with immigrants. People who have social contact with immigrants tend to be more positive towards immigrants than others. In addition, there is positive correlation between positive attitudes and the number of arenas for contact and number of immigrants involved.

The results are taken from a survey of attitudes towards immigrants and immigration, and the questions are part of Statistics Norway's omnibus survey.

Loki
Sunday, February 13th, 2005, 09:21 PM
Only one out of ten is reluctant to have an immigrant as a neighbour or home help, but 35 per cent would dislike that their son or daughter married an immigrant.
This is a disaster on a national scale. Only 35% of Norwegians would mind if a negro married their daughters. At the moment, there is no reason for hoping for a Nordic future. :speechles As we are now, we will go down for sure.


67[%] of the respondents report that they have some contact with immigrants.

People who have social contact with immigrants tend to be more positive towards immigrants than others.
More reason for those who wish to destroy us, to continue with their brainwashing exercises. :mad:

Loki
Sunday, February 13th, 2005, 09:36 PM
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Loki
Sunday, February 13th, 2005, 09:40 PM
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anonymaus
Sunday, February 13th, 2005, 09:51 PM
I am sorry, Loki, but these things tend to enrage me beyond the point of appreciable contribution.

My attitude as of late has become vengeful rather than calm, it seems the frequency of these studies, polls, and outrageous events(e.g. the situation in malmo) is increasing exponentially; perhaps, though, I am just now beginning to notice them.

The title you gave this particular area of the forum is well deserved as of late, and the need for us to organize and speak with a single voice to the public as well as on a grassroots level is now greater than ever.

Gustavus Magnus
Sunday, February 13th, 2005, 10:09 PM
This is a disaster on a national scale. Only 35% of Norwegians would mind if a negro married their daughters.

That's not really important. What's important is if the daughters mind marrying a negroe. I mean, if a father do not want their daughters to marry a negroe, and yet they want to marry one, they will.

Guest
Sunday, February 13th, 2005, 10:11 PM
If we want to change this we must make people listen to us. Many don't do that because they don't take us serious. And the reason why they don't take us serious is, I believe, partly due to our own lack of proper outward communication.

I believe we need to get our priorities strait, and explain to the public exactly how we see things as we do, and why. The most important thing appears to me to be the survival of our kind, not because it necessarily is superior to others but simply because it is OURS!

We need to explain and make clear to our people that survival is not just bound to the individual, but also to the community. And though cultural reproduction is possible, it's not the foundation of survival, only biological reproduction is that. Culture can be created from a biological base, but not the other way around. Therefore; if we are and want to survive, then we must do so first and foremost as a biological entity. If people would just understand this, it shouldn't be a too big problem getting their support for anti-immigration, anti-integration and racial preservationism.

But we need to get our communication straight and clear. We have a strong case and sound arguments, so if we could just manage on focussing on this aspect I believe we could go quite far.

The main problem it seems to me, is when we are sending mixed messages confusing real, concrete and practical problems such as the survival of our kind with other political problems related to either religion, history, economics or whatever. We can't expect much support if we want to just revolutionize and change everything, because let's face it; most people are (no matter how incredible it might seem to us) quite happy with the way things are, were it just not for the immigrants and their crime. If we could therefore take one problem at a time and focus on solving them in a pragmatic manner, then I seriously believe we would stand a very fair chance of obtaining at least what is now our primary goal, racial preservation. Of course we must be able to talk about something else also, and relate to other kinds of problems, but I think it's of utmost importance that we always explicitly connects our views or stands on any given topic with the preservation of our kind, and show to the public how and why it is always about this in the end.

Of course this is based upon the assumption that most people are actually able to listen to, understand and act on behalfs of rationality and reason, and the consequences thereof. It's of course also firmly based on a strong belief in the power of communication and the stronger argument. I don't anticipate many people here to disagree with me on all this, but it surprises me that this strategy has not yet been tried in praxis in a goaloriented, disciplined and consequent way.

Loki
Sunday, February 13th, 2005, 10:14 PM
That's not really important. What's important is if the daughters mind marrying a negroe. I mean, if a father do not want their daughters to marry a negroe, and yet they want to marry one, they will.
Well, the odds are that the daughters will be even more liberal than their parents. The younger generation is more brainwashed than the older one... and more exposed to immigrants. I see no reason for optimism at all. It is a tragedy, and we will have to dig in to survive the dark future that is awaiting us all. Not us, but our children. I cry for them already.

Guest
Sunday, February 13th, 2005, 10:23 PM
The Swedish band "Svensk Ungdom" (Swedish Youth) has made a song about all this. A song which says what is to be said very very well, and it brings a could shiver down my spine and tears to my eyes every time I listen to it. None-the-less it's one of my favourite songs ever, and it's quite often that I listen to it, probably because it so well expresses what and how I feel. I would recommend it to everyone in here, especially those of you who understand Swedish. It's called "Frågor till far" (Questions for dad).

anonymaus
Monday, February 14th, 2005, 02:46 AM
If we want to change this we must make people listen to us. Many don't do that because they don't take us serious. And the reason why they don't take us serious is, I believe, partly due to our own lack of proper outward communication.

I believe we need to get our priorities strait, and explain to the public exactly how we see things as we do, and why. The most important thing appears to me to be the survival of our kind, not because it necessarily is superior to others but simply because it is OURS!

We need to explain and make clear to our people that survival is not just bound to the individual, but also to the community. And though cultural reproduction is possible, it's not the foundation of survival, only biological reproduction is that. Culture can be created from a biological base, but not the other way around. Therefore; if we are and want to survive, then we must do so first and foremost as a biological entity. If people would just understand this, it shouldn't be a too big problem getting their support for anti-immigration, anti-integration and racial preservationism.

But we need to get our communication straight and clear. We have a strong case and sound arguments, so if we could just manage on focussing on this aspect I believe we could go quite far.

The main problem it seems to me, is when we are sending mixed messages confusing real, concrete and practical problems such as the survival of our kind with other political problems related to either religion, history, economics or whatever. We can't expect much support if we want to just revolutionize and change everything, because let's face it; most people are (no matter how incredible it might seem to us) quite happy with the way things are, were it just not for the immigrants and their crime. If we could therefore take one problem at a time and focus on solving them in a pragmatic manner, then I seriously believe we would stand a very fair chance of obtaining at least what is now our primary goal, racial preservation. Of course we must be able to talk about something else also, and relate to other kinds of problems, but I think it's of utmost importance that we always explicitly connects our views or stands on any given topic with the preservation of our kind, and show to the public how and why it is always about this in the end.

Of course this is based upon the assumption that most people are actually able to listen to, understand and act on behalfs of rationality and reason, and the consequences thereof. It's of course also firmly based on a strong belief in the power of communication and the stronger argument. I don't anticipate many people here to disagree with me on all this, but it surprises me that this strategy has not yet been tried in praxis in a goaloriented, disciplined and consequent way.

well put.


The younger generation is more brainwashed than the older one... and more exposed to immigrants.

i have noticed this as well, and it troubles me much more than the brainwashed older folks. they are too old to change, and will soon die and leave things to us. it is up to us to break the mind-control of the religion of "tolerance" and guide the younger generation along the appropriate path; though we must, as Jonas has illustrated, walk that path ourselves first.

person-to-person, advertising online and in print, and we need people who can talk to the media and express our collective objectives and desires and thoughts properly - so there can be no misinterpretation. we must refute all arguments before they are made against us.

Northern Paladin
Monday, February 14th, 2005, 03:34 AM
The Swedish band "Svensk Ungdom" (Swedish Youth) has made a song about all this. A song which says what is to be said very very well, and it brings a could shiver down my spine and tears to my eyes every time I listen to it. None-the-less it's one of my favourite songs ever, and it's quite often that I listen to it, probably because it so well expresses what and how I feel. I would recommend it to everyone in here, especially those of you who understand Swedish. It's called "Frågor till far" (Questions for dad).

Why don't you post the Lyrics?

Guest
Monday, February 14th, 2005, 03:44 AM
I'll try to do that sometime, but right now I'm actually sitting and working, so I don't really have the time to find the lyrics, translate them and write them in here - I'm just checking TNP for updates once in a while, when I have a break in my work, and then quickly responding to something if I feel a strong urge to do so...

cosmocreator
Monday, February 14th, 2005, 06:30 AM
I don't think that is a workable solution. All the information they need to make a change is here on the internet. It's available to them now. They are just not interested. We're talking about sheep here. They don't have any great vision or purpose beyond their immediate needs. Disrupt their comfortable lives and they'll look for comfort elsewhere.



If we want to change this we must make people listen to us. Many don't do that because they don't take us serious. And the reason why they don't take us serious is, I believe, partly due to our own lack of proper outward communication.

I believe we need to get our priorities strait, and explain to the public exactly how we see things as we do, and why. The most important thing appears to me to be the survival of our kind, not because it necessarily is superior to others but simply because it is OURS!

We need to explain and make clear to our people that survival is not just bound to the individual, but also to the community. And though cultural reproduction is possible, it's not the foundation of survival, only biological reproduction is that. Culture can be created from a biological base, but not the other way around. Therefore; if we are and want to survive, then we must do so first and foremost as a biological entity. If people would just understand this, it shouldn't be a too big problem getting their support for anti-immigration, anti-integration and racial preservationism.

But we need to get our communication straight and clear. We have a strong case and sound arguments, so if we could just manage on focussing on this aspect I believe we could go quite far.

The main problem it seems to me, is when we are sending mixed messages confusing real, concrete and practical problems such as the survival of our kind with other political problems related to either religion, history, economics or whatever. We can't expect much support if we want to just revolutionize and change everything, because let's face it; most people are (no matter how incredible it might seem to us) quite happy with the way things are, were it just not for the immigrants and their crime. If we could therefore take one problem at a time and focus on solving them in a pragmatic manner, then I seriously believe we would stand a very fair chance of obtaining at least what is now our primary goal, racial preservation. Of course we must be able to talk about something else also, and relate to other kinds of problems, but I think it's of utmost importance that we always explicitly connects our views or stands on any given topic with the preservation of our kind, and show to the public how and why it is always about this in the end.

Of course this is based upon the assumption that most people are actually able to listen to, understand and act on behalfs of rationality and reason, and the consequences thereof. It's of course also firmly based on a strong belief in the power of communication and the stronger argument. I don't anticipate many people here to disagree with me on all this, but it surprises me that this strategy has not yet been tried in praxis in a goaloriented, disciplined and consequent way.

Guest
Monday, February 14th, 2005, 07:54 AM
I still believe the problem to be that we are not taken serious by most people. They see us as fanatics and lunatics, and sometimes just as fools. Most often they consider us evil and even "unhuman" as well. Very few people care enough about such kind of people to get further acquinted with them before they make their final judgement. How many of you have for instance made up your mind about Satanics only after first having read The Satanic Bible and other (more or less weird) litterature on the subject? Or how many have read the Koran before judging Muslims en large? My point in naming this is just to state that we can't expect people to come to us first. Instead we must come to them, through the mass media. The media is not in our hands, no that is correct. This means that we'll have to play by the rules of our enemies, but shouldn't we be smart enough to do that and still benefit from it?! After all we take pride in our race, a race that has accomplished many far more impressive things than meeting an enemy on his home ground and trying to defeat him by using his own weapons or means/meassures against him.
I definately believe it to be possible for us to prevail through such activities, but of course it requires a high level of rhetorical awareness by us and our representatives in addition to a very high level of masterly trained communication skills en large.
In short, as I see it what we need is a more pragmatic and less stubborn attitude towards the problems that we are facing. I think we should focus more on our goals and less on the means. If we save our race from dying, we can achieve almost anything, but if we can't save it, we'll for sure loose everything.

Stig NHF
Monday, February 14th, 2005, 08:19 AM
Okay, since its such a great song I translated it. You can download it off Nordiska Forlaget. Svensk Ungdom - Frågor Till Far (http://www.nordiskaforlaget.com/mp3/Svensk%20Ungdom%20-%20Fragor%20till%20far-Smakprov.MP3)
The text of "Svensk Ungdom - Frågor Till Far". (Swedish Youth- Questions For Dad".

Do you remember the time that I never saw? When the people were happy and the people were one. So tell me then daddy how does it feel today, when you're sitting in the scraps of what is left. When you grew up, how was it back then, was a girl something one could do with as one wants? Did you walk on the street and not hearing a word you could understand. Were you ever forced to walk home alone, after being robbed and taunted by foreign men?

CHORUS: Tell me how could you let it happen? You were blind to what a blind man could see. Does it feel good my dear daddy, are you proud and happy? And where will you stand in our battle today?

Most of you were stupid as only a few could be, but some of you were even worse. They saw it as serious and not as a game, they loved to hate the people they betrayed. Now they call the resistance a bunch of haters, but outside the gangs hunt the streets in flock. And they probably thank you were much and laugh in joy of the stupidity that represented you. You should have awakened, you should have understood, you should have seen the seriousness and you should have said stop.

CHORUS:

Did you want to breed an entire nation of multikultis and rootless people. Against your plans stood reality, where everything that was once good became a stinking marsh.

Now we are forced to bear the responsibility that you fled. Your society rots, we're building a new one!

And I ask you, daddy, if you understand, that your generations creation now has to go. And I ask you, do you have your conscience still? Do you do your duty now, as man and as a father?

Now we are forced to bear the responsibility that you fled. Your society rots, we're building a new one! Are you with us today? Is the mind starting to clear? Or do you turn your back on the children of the future?

CHORUS


Now we are forced to bear the responsibility that you fled. Your society rots, we're building a new one! Are you with us today? Is the mind starting to clear? Or do you turn your back on the children of the future?

CHORUS.

Draugr
Monday, February 14th, 2005, 08:42 AM
That's not really important. What's important is if the daughters mind marrying a negroe. I mean, if a father do not want their daughters to marry a negroe, and yet they want to marry one, they will.

Not if the males in the family bush whacked the monkey and cut his throat (every pig gets their St. Martin's day)and fed the body to some pigs, and beat the crap out of her. Oh yeah it would stop!
These actions would be justified too, a white woman breeding with a negro puts all white males of the next generation in danger.

Erlingr Hárbarðarson
Monday, February 14th, 2005, 11:09 AM
Okay, since its such a great song I translated it. You can download it off Nordiska Forlaget. Svensk Ungdom - Frågor Till Far (http://www.nordiskaforlaget.com/mp3/Svensk%20Ungdom%20-%20Fragor%20till%20far-Smakprov.MP3)
The text of "Svensk Ungdom - Frågor Till Far". (Swedish Youth- Questions For Dad"...
Takk, Stig. How are other tracks of Svensk Ungdom? I have been tired of having heard the same Ultima Thule tracks over the years. Svensk Ungdom sound good to me, to my ears and to my heart.

Stig NHF
Monday, February 14th, 2005, 03:00 PM
Well, the rest is okay, but this song is a classic. Both the text and the melody is quite nice :)

Guest
Monday, February 14th, 2005, 04:31 PM
I think this song alone is worth the price for the entire album. But there are several other good songs as well on the album, such as Frihetsvisan, Spörsmål and Trumpetare blås marschappell.

solkorset
Monday, February 14th, 2005, 05:17 PM
The survey shows that attitudes towards settled immigrants are more or less unchanged from last year. Two thirds of the population 'strongly agree' or 'agree on the whole' that immigrants make a valuable contribution to the Norwegian working life, and nine out of ten believe that immigrants should have the same labour market opportunities as the rest of the population. Four out of ten, however, believe that immigrants abuse the social welfare system and that immigrants are a source of increased insecurity in society. Only one out of ten is reluctant to have an immigrant as a neighbour or home help, but 35 per cent would dislike that their son or daughter married an immigrant.

They publish this every year to gloat. See how stupid the goyim masses are! See how successful we have been in indoctrinating them! See how happy the chickens are while we lead them to the slaughter house!

Even so their stated attitudes don't quite agree with their real ones. Cause for optimism! On the front page of the english paper "The daily telegraph" a couple of days ago I read a report revealing how the english are fleeing immigrant areas of the country, especially London. More than 600 000 englishmen have fled London in the last 10 years, settling in whiter parts of the country, while at the same time more than 700 000 immigrants arrived.

Are the norwegians different? Hardly. When asked they may say that they don't mind an immigrant neighbour, but when choosing where to live, they prefer the whitest neighbourhoods they can afford. Most do, anyway.

I'm not saying that they are hypocrites and that there is no cause for concern - there is! - but we are all afraid of showing non-PC attitudes in public, and some of us - many, I suppose - even have trouble with their conscience over this.


Education is the single most important background factor in determining attitudes towards immigrants and immigration. The more education, the more likely a person is to be positive towards immigrants.

The purpose of "education" in this country could not possibly have been stated more clearly!!!!


The oldest age group is more sceptical than younger age groups.

Yes, because there was no antiwhite multicult agitprop in school and the mass media when they were young.


People living in urban areas are more positive towards immigrants than people from rural areas, and people living in Oslo/Akershus are more positive than people from other parts of the country.

Partly because more of the people asked in the survey from Oslo are themselves aliens! You know, the establishment considers anyone born in Norway a norwegian. Another reason is that those who oppose immigration tend to stay away from Oslo or leave if they're already here. A third reason is that people in Oslo have higher education than elsewhere (more brainwashed).


67 of the respondents report that they have some contact with immigrants. People who have social contact with immigrants tend to be more positive towards immigrants than others.

Yes, integration is far advanced. The second sentence is intended to suggest that aversion to immigrants is pure prejudice and that those who get to know them discover how nice they are! But the reported fact is easy to explain: Those who like immigrants tend to have social contact with them!

solkorset
Monday, February 14th, 2005, 05:35 PM
But we need to get our communication straight and clear. We have a strong case and sound arguments, so if we could just manage on focussing on this aspect I believe we could go quite far.

The main problem it seems to me, is when we are sending mixed messages confusing real, concrete and practical problems such as the survival of our kind with other political problems related to either religion, history, economics or whatever. We can't expect much support if we want to just revolutionize and change everything, because let's face it; most people are (no matter how incredible it might seem to us) quite happy with the way things are, were it just not for the immigrants and their crime. If we could therefore take one problem at a time and focus on solving them in a pragmatic manner, then I seriously believe we would stand a very fair chance of obtaining at least what is now our primary goal, racial preservation. Of course we must be able to talk about something else also, and relate to other kinds of problems, but I think it's of utmost importance that we always explicitly connects our views or stands on any given topic with the preservation of our kind, and show to the public how and why it is always about this in the end.

Of course this is based upon the assumption that most people are actually able to listen to, understand and act on behalfs of rationality and reason, and the consequences thereof. It's of course also firmly based on a strong belief in the power of communication and the stronger argument. I don't anticipate many people here to disagree with me on all this, but it surprises me that this strategy has not yet been tried in praxis in a goaloriented, disciplined and consequent way.


Oh, Jonas, this democratic, moderate, decent-folks approach has been tried over and over again and has failed resoundingly. Why? Because the media will portray you as a racist, an extremist, anyway. You will NOT have access to mass media! And even if you did, and started talking about these criminal immigrants, all the others would immediately arrest you and "inform" you that "immigrants are not more criminal than us, rather the contrary, and it is our society that makes them criminal". Everybody would agree that you are just being prejudiced and hateful.

Failure. Some other approach must be tried.

Guest
Monday, February 14th, 2005, 05:57 PM
First of all; I'm not a democrat. ;) Secondly; I can't see it has been tried anywhere. Can you name an example? The way I see it is that most of our representatives are simply too bad at presenting their/our case/struggle and representing us.
Personally I've got very good experiences with using just reason, rationality and consequent logic in conversations with others. I sincerely believe it could work also on a larger scale, and this is what I want to dedicate myself to try out. Time will tell if it will kill or cure.

solkorset
Monday, February 14th, 2005, 06:09 PM
I didn't believe you were a democrat.

You can argue with receptive people face to face, but the MEDIA are controlled by our enemies and you will never get a fair trial there.

All socalled "national democrats" and anti-immigration "folk movements" have tried it. In Denmark I've seen plenty of examples. Student bodies, anti-Islam, dansk folkeparti, ... they accomplish nothing.

Guest
Monday, February 14th, 2005, 06:58 PM
I still think our main problem has been the lack of (primarily communicative) competences that I find have characterized these movements, organizations and their representatives. As some of my older fellow Danish comrades have told me; before we mostly saw weirdoes joining our ranks, but now a whole new type of people are joining, people of quality. I agree with them, and I see a lot of fast growing potential, at least in Scandinavia which is what I know the most about.
Of course I know that the media is not in our hands, but I'm prepared to fight the enemy whereever I can, also on their own ground. The only thing that really matters to me is that we win as much as possible and as fast as possible. Personally I want to fight verbally, but I'm not going to hold anyone back from forming other kinds of resistance structures. I don't care how we win, only that we do win, and, to put it very simplistic, the more people there are and the more different their approaches are to the struggle, the more likely it appears to me to be that one of them will prevail.

solkorset
Monday, February 14th, 2005, 07:08 PM
I still think our main problem has been the lack of (primarily communicative) competences that I find have characterized these movements, organizations and their representatives. As some of my older fellow Danish comrades have told me; before we mostly saw weirdoes joining our ranks, but now a whole new type of people are joining, people of quality. I agree with them, and I see a lot of fast growing potential, at least in Scandinavia which is what I know the most about.
Of course I know that the media is not in our hands, but I'm prepared to fight the enemy whereever I can, also on their own ground. The only thing that really matters to me is that we win as much as possible and as fast as possible. Personally I want to fight verbally, but I'm not going to hold anyone back from forming other kinds of resistance structures. I don't care how we win, only that we do win, and, to put it very simplistic, the more people there are and the more different their approaches are to the struggle, the more likely it appears to me to be that one of them will prevail.


Good! The truth and the word are the most powerful weapons. I'm fighting with these weapons too: www.solkorset.org. You seem like a bright man and should use all your talents to further the cause. Lykke til, danske broder!

Guest
Monday, February 14th, 2005, 09:02 PM
Thank you for your kind words, which I'd like to use the opportunity to return. ;) Og tak og i lige måde, norske broder! *missing a smiley for vikings shaking hands or otherwise greeting each other*

tuddorsped
Saturday, April 16th, 2005, 11:38 AM
A few quick observations.

1. These polls and surveys are utter fabrications. They are only used to either manufacture a non-existent consent to some sacred tenet of the political elite's credo or draw public attention to one of their absurd arbitrary diktats and prepare the public for some new and ridiculous politically partisan campaign.

In short, they are just another tool of social engineering. I can't actually believe that any serious WN or racial supremacist would even take them seriously. This sort of vulgar pornography actually makes me laugh more than it does cry. In fact, as third rate credulous Weimaresque pantomime goes, it positively excites me. I mean, read the subtext and try and understand what the motivation behind releasing such fiction could be and what this in fact indicates. Would the multi-cult simpletons even bother with such fatuous rubbish if their utopian society was evolving so effortlessly and splendidly?

2. Norwegians are an intensely honest but very guarded and private people. They are not garrulous French or loquacious and mercurial Italians. They do not share their innermost thoughts on such burning issues wantonly with strangers like sunburnt Greek peasants at a roadside taverna downing bottles of Metaxa into the early hours. To get a more balanced view of their true opinions and prejudices, one has to be taken into their confidence. In fact, from my own experience, I have found them to be extremely clannish and very reluctant indeed to engage in discussing such potentially inflammable and controversial subjects as these with so little consideration for the potential consequences of their words. Maybe the survey was conducted on the beaches of Spain amongst Norwegian tourists perhaps, with the alcohol flowing and not a blackface in sight? Who knows? Whatever the circumstances I find them to be utterly fantastic and would be more willing to accept the reality of eggs being laid by tigers in Oslo Zoo.

3. I have seen no empirical evidence in my extensive travels in Norway to remotely support any of the hypotheses outlined. It's pure and utter drivel.

vegard
Saturday, April 16th, 2005, 01:37 PM
1. These polls and surveys are utter fabrications. They are only used to either manufacture a non-existent consent to some sacred tenet of the political elite's credo or draw public attention to one of their absurd arbitrary diktats and prepare the public for some new and ridiculous politically partisan campaign.

Correct, these polls are either fabrications or they did their query in the "getto". Nothing to get upset about.

Dieter_
Wednesday, May 18th, 2005, 10:26 PM
They are designed to elicit the cry of 'All is lost, we are finished' whinging syndrome - which Loki, as moderator, would do well to avoid. It leads to procrastination and lack of action. It leads to loss of focus.

Admittedly, I go through bouts of negativity. But I think we have to use forums like this as positively as we can.

What is the point in putting on an obviously-engineered survey result, and then complaining that the end of the world is near? It is worth a mention, but the validity of the results should be questioned, and not mulled over. We cannot allow these people to alter our mental condition. Despair is not the way forward for us, or for our movements.

Moderators, please steer the forum in a more positive direction. We need to make the most of our resources here rather than complaining about every piece of bad news that rolls in. We can waste years doing that - there must be something better.

We need some advice/tips columns and perhaps a trade register. The board should be moving in a more positive, practical way in future. Let's stay on our toes, instead of doing exactly what our enemies want us to do!